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20090722 00:08:12< Turuk> So in starting on 4P Loris River, teams are on opposing corners.....
20090722 00:15:39< thespaceinvader> slasher looks bitching
20090722 00:15:51< thespaceinvader> i'm so tempted to try to level it, cos the warden's fuckign badass
20090722 00:16:20< thespaceinvader> oops, wrong window >.<
20090722 00:17:28< Turuk> haha
20090722 00:17:34< Turuk> Any of the MP devs around?
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20090722 01:05:03< Soliton> yes.
20090722 01:07:20< Turuk> When playing 2v2, the ally chat is not set to the right players in 1.7.
20090722 01:07:42< Turuk> The teams are right as far as sides and attacking, but ally chat had us talking with an opposing team member
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20090722 01:16:45< Soliton> well, ally chat is done via the team_name. no idea what might have changed there.
20090722 01:21:00< Turuk> Well, as another user pointed out on the forum recently, perhaps it has to do with whatever changed the fact that in a team game, allies no longer have their leader show their name, but just their faction?
20090722 01:29:44< Soliton> yeah, could be.
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20090722 11:56:32< Soliton> zookeeper: about the id=stun thing, should i just leave it off?
20090722 12:01:45< zookeeper> remove it, yes
20090722 12:05:53< Soliton> ok, seems to work.
20090722 12:06:21< zookeeper> great
20090722 12:15:58< Soliton> on the other hand it already worked fine before..
20090722 12:18:50< zookeeper> what do you mean?
20090722 12:20:07< Soliton> well, i just checked with the id= and it works as well. so i'm not sure what exactly the problem is.
20090722 12:20:52< zookeeper> you checked that it works also after the first time?
20090722 12:20:55< zookeeper> well, no idea then
20090722 12:22:27< Soliton> ah yes, second time doesn't work.
20090722 12:23:07< zookeeper> yeah. i'm guessing the report was referring to that.
20090722 12:25:42< Soliton> doesn't work twice without the id either though.
20090722 12:28:07< zookeeper> urgh.
20090722 12:28:59< zookeeper> so just to be sure: you removed the id= line entirely and it still only works once?
20090722 12:29:22< zookeeper> that doesn't make any sense to me
20090722 12:30:04< zookeeper> could you try adding some counter variable (like {VARIABLE foo add 1} somewhere in the event) and using id=$foo on the object and see if that helps?
20090722 12:30:13< zookeeper> s/VARIABLE/VARIABLE_OP
20090722 12:30:47< zookeeper> if the event fires ok every time but the object isn't applied to the unit except the first time then it sounds like some funny engine bug with objects
20090722 12:31:38< Soliton> hmm, i did the refresh with F5 on the main menu however that does not seem to re-read the campaign specific part when i start the campaign again.
20090722 12:32:49< zookeeper> ah, i didn't even know/remember you could do that
20090722 12:32:56< Soliton> hmm, nevermind. need to restest stuff properly.
20090722 12:33:21< zookeeper> agreed ;)
20090722 12:35:53< Soliton> ok, seems to work fine without id.
20090722 12:36:38< zookeeper> good
20090722 12:36:47 * zookeeper just hit himself in the eye with a cap
20090722 12:37:16< zookeeper> most unpleasant
20090722 12:37:39< Soliton> interesting.
20090722 12:38:52 * Soliton shakes head.
20090722 12:39:41< zookeeper> well, now i can already keep it open most of the time
20090722 12:39:49< zookeeper> gotta remember to not do that again
20090722 12:40:53< Soliton> gotta remember a lot of stuff, huh?
20090722 12:41:15< Soliton> "do not touch hot stove!"
20090722 12:42:55< zookeeper> eh-heh -.-
20090722 12:50:55< Soliton> zookeeper: same issue should be in 1.6, no?
20090722 12:53:52< Soliton> indeed.. i guess no one uses stun there since it's a weaker attack.
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20090722 13:01:40< zookeeper> Soliton, yes
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20090722 18:55:53< Soliton> * added Dwarvish Stalwart, Elder Wose, Shock Trooper and White Mage to random_leader of default
20090722 18:55:56< Soliton> * added Ancient Wose, Dwarvish Sentinel, Iron Mauler and Mage of Light to random_leader of aoh
20090722 18:55:59< Soliton> noy: ^
20090722 18:56:18< noy> who plays AoH?
20090722 18:56:22< noy> :p
20090722 18:56:28< Soliton> since 4MP units get quick now.
20090722 18:57:03< Soliton> objections?
20090722 18:57:14< noy> I don't really care.
20090722 18:57:18< noy> Its not a vital one
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20090722 18:57:28< Soliton> alright.
20090722 18:57:30< noy> (sorry that sound flippant when it wasn't meant to be)
20090722 18:57:48< Soliton> nah, that's fine.
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20090722 21:04:32< Soliton> zookeeper: what campaign should i play?
20090722 21:06:08< zookeeper> Soliton, err...no idea
20090722 21:06:20< zookeeper> i haven't played _any_ campaign in months :|
20090722 21:07:08< zookeeper> check some of the newest add-ons and tell me if any of them are worth anything? :P
20090722 21:07:55< Soliton> i've checked most from the dev version.
20090722 21:08:09< Soliton> not a lot of campaigns there though.
20090722 21:08:58< Soliton> missing sceptre is kind of a parody. not bad but boringly easy gameplay wise.
20090722 21:10:02< Soliton> brent is an interesting start into a very rpgish campaign. not much to do so far though.
20090722 21:10:38< zookeeper> well, make a new one then!
20090722 21:10:57< Soliton> eh, too big a project.
20090722 21:11:47< Soliton> i don't really care about anything but gameplay anyway so if i'd rather do some mp scenario.
20090722 21:12:11< zookeeper> make an interesting and at least somewhat balanced 1vs2 MP scenario
20090722 21:12:19< zookeeper> i've always wanted one of those
20090722 21:12:28< Turuk> Soliton, try Prudence on 1.6
20090722 21:13:42< Turuk> though on the harder difficulty
20090722 21:14:03< Soliton> thanks for the suggestion but i want to play the dev version.
20090722 21:14:53< Turuk> Ah
20090722 21:15:03< zookeeper> lol, darthkarth is back again
20090722 21:15:13< zookeeper> play that!
20090722 21:15:16< Soliton> yeah, just deleted stuff again.
20090722 21:15:24< Turuk> Did you try rebellion during the dark age or fall of wesnoth?
20090722 21:15:48< Soliton> tried the first but haven't finished it yet, i think.
20090722 21:15:55< Soliton> the latter seems just one scenario so far.
20090722 21:16:32< Turuk> Ah okay, let me know what you think of the first one.  I couldn't really get into even the first scenario, but does it get better?
20090722 21:17:44< Soliton> well, it's pretty random iirc.
20090722 21:17:56< Turuk> no decent story line?
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20090722 21:18:34< Soliton> well, judging by that i can't really remember much of it i think so. :-P
20090722 21:19:34< Turuk> Haha fair enough
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20090722 21:47:38< Turuk> Soliton: OOS in a MP game on default faction, default map.... that's usually a sign of cheating or no?
20090722 21:48:04< Soliton> yeah.
20090722 21:48:22< Turuk> Lovely
20090722 21:51:53< Soliton> no OOS here.
20090722 21:53:20< Turuk> the player causing it left soon after, if that makes a difference
20090722 21:53:57< Soliton> what kind of OOS did you get? i get none while observing.
20090722 21:54:16< Turuk> It said OOS while recruiting when the other player was taking his turn
20090722 21:56:30< Soliton> sounds like something is different on your side then because i didn't get that.
20090722 21:56:39< Soliton> did tsi get OOS?
20090722 21:57:26< Turuk> nope, he didn't either
20090722 21:57:27< Turuk> maybe it's me?
20090722 21:57:40< Soliton> seems like it.
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20090722 22:31:26< noy> I knew it, you're just trying to cover up your cheating
20090722 22:46:42< Turuk> ha
20090722 22:46:44< Turuk> I wish
20090722 22:53:44< noy> Iiinteresting... http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1418/
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