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20090723 20:52:45< grzywacz> noy, 
20090723 20:52:52< noy> ?
20090723 20:52:59< grzywacz> Can you kick Faello?
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20090723 20:53:01< grzywacz> He got disconnected.
20090723 20:53:05< grzywacz> Apparently.
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20090723 20:54:10< noy> grzywacz: there might be a server crash
20090723 20:54:16< noy> I'm likely crashed
20090723 20:54:27< Dragonking> meh
20090723 20:54:33< grzywacz> meh^2
20090723 20:54:37< grzywacz> Soliton, ? ;-)
20090723 20:54:53< noy> grzywacz: its an entire server crash. 
20090723 20:55:00< grzywacz> Ugly.
20090723 20:55:24< noy> there are people in the lobby
20090723 20:55:29< grzywacz> Probably it has code like: if estimatedGameLength > 123.turns: crash()
20090723 20:55:31< grzywacz> ;-)
20090723 20:55:37< noy> I can see on the server 
20090723 20:55:43< noy> I can't join
20090723 20:56:04< grzywacz> Can't join either
20090723 20:56:14< noy> faello is on the dipl lobby
20090723 20:56:23< noy> you might want to continue playing there
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20090723 20:56:40< grzywacz> dipl?
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20090723 21:10:19< YogiHH> hello
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20090723 21:10:45< angelus> hi to all
20090723 21:10:56< YogiHH> hi angelus
20090723 21:11:09< angelus> is there a problem iwht official serveR?
20090723 21:11:13< angelus> with
20090723 21:11:16< Soliton> yes.
20090723 21:11:19< YogiHH> seems so, i can't connect, too
20090723 21:11:20< angelus> lol
20090723 21:11:34< angelus> :( better
20090723 21:11:44< angelus> now i know the problem wasn't me
20090723 21:12:02< angelus> anyway
20090723 21:12:39< angelus> anyone knows if i can have my wesnoth nickname with password?
20090723 21:13:25< angelus> thx YogiHH 
20090723 21:14:00< angelus> for all
20090723 21:14:26< thespaceinvader> angelus: register your nick by joining the forum
20090723 21:14:36< thespaceinvader> as it says in the lobby welcome message ;)
20090723 21:15:14< angelus> thx
20090723 21:15:22< angelus> and how i must put the pass
20090723 21:15:28< angelus> name:password?
20090723 21:15:54< Soliton> it'll ask you.
20090723 21:16:03< angelus> thx
20090723 21:16:23< YogiHH> np
20090723 21:16:54< Soliton> ok, server finally died.
20090723 21:17:04< angelus> o fuck
20090723 21:17:12< Soliton> (and should be back up.)
20090723 21:17:29< angelus> that was bad :(
20090723 21:20:17< Soliton> i wonder why the load went up to 200+ when CPUs were mostly idle and I/O didn't seem so bad either.
20090723 21:21:25< angelus> ok
20090723 21:21:25< angelus> now
20090723 21:21:28< angelus> all its ok
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20090723 22:18:38< Soliton> zookeeper: any idea why the dwarven tunnel does not actually connect to the main cave in utbs:5 (where you meet the dwarves)? it seems odd that that new tunnel appear but it's not actually reachable and they talk through cave wall...
20090723 22:21:57< zookeeper> Soliton, hmh? everything's connected AFAICT
20090723 22:22:33< Soliton> nope there's like 3 hexes missing.
20090723 22:23:08< zookeeper> where?
20090723 22:23:24< Soliton> at the end of that level when the dwarf appears.
20090723 22:23:59< Soliton> also there is WML to kill the dwarf and close the tunnel again but it's never reached because the level ends before that.
20090723 22:24:35< Soliton> data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/05_A_Subterranean_Struggle.cfg:3318+
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20090723 22:25:45< zookeeper> looks like that bit just needs some cleanup
20090723 22:26:12< Soliton> i can complete the tunnel and remove the dead WML if you like.
20090723 22:26:27< zookeeper> sounds good
20090723 22:26:42< zookeeper> or you can just move all the WML in that [then] to the GRIMNIR_CONVERSATION macro
20090723 22:27:05< zookeeper> i see no reason to have parts of the cutscene in different places..
20090723 22:27:19< Soliton> sure.
20090723 22:27:29< zookeeper> then you could also easily arrange the tunnel erasing and stuff so that it visible happens before the endlevel
20090723 22:27:53< Soliton> well, i don't really get why the tunnel should disappear again?
20090723 22:28:02< zookeeper> i don't either :p
20090723 22:28:14< Soliton> ok, i'll leave it off then. :-)
20090723 22:30:56< Soliton> the coordinates are different depending on which troll you killed last.
20090723 22:31:35< Soliton> though the tunnel appears near the troll that you didn't kill last..
20090723 22:32:10< Soliton> doesn't seem particularly useful feature, yes?
20090723 22:33:22< Soliton> the other tunnel ends in a chasm. i guess the map was redesigned a bit at some point.
20090723 22:33:38< zookeeper> maybe
20090723 22:33:54< zookeeper> and no, i don't see any usefulness to that
20090723 22:34:12< Soliton> ok, i'll make it the same tunnel either way.
20090723 22:34:33< zookeeper> btw, the point of sealing the tunnel might be that otherwise the player might want to wander there pointlessly in case the scenario doesn't end yet (if the assassin is still around)
20090723 22:34:50< grzywacz> We came, we won, we left.
20090723 22:35:05< Soliton> hmm, yeah. not a big deal IMO though.
20090723 22:35:29< Soliton> the assassin didn't appear at all for me, btw.
20090723 22:35:34< Soliton> guess i was lucky.
20090723 22:36:11< zookeeper> huh?
20090723 22:36:54< zookeeper> err. the assasin spawn turn is random of 13..23
20090723 22:37:01< zookeeper> surely it's possible to beat the scenario in less than that
20090723 22:37:24< Soliton> i finished at turn 27. that was pretty fast.
20090723 22:37:29< zookeeper> oh, right
20090723 22:39:41< zookeeper> ah, hmh, it's not turn 13..23
20090723 22:40:08< zookeeper> it's 13..23, but the counting starts from when you reach the main area and the fighting begins
20090723 22:40:37< zookeeper> so probably something more close to turn 30 sometimes
20090723 22:40:44< Soliton> hmm, i might be barely below the upper boundary then.
20090723 22:41:16< zookeeper> well, you can check the values of $assassin_turn and $battle_turn_counter
20090723 22:42:38< Soliton> "
20090723 22:42:38< Soliton> er="18"
20090723 22:42:46< Soliton> assassin_turn="23"
20090723 22:42:46< Soliton> battle_turn_counter="18"
20090723 22:43:52< zookeeper> ok so it should trigger after 5 more turns i guess
20090723 22:45:45< Soliton> i was pushing pretty hard though slaughtering trolls is easy with slow.
20090723 22:47:02< zookeeper> the counter should probably be much smaller, like 10..16 or something, with a failsafe that the assassin appears when you kill the first enemy leader or something like that
20090723 22:47:55< Soliton> yeah, such a failsafe would be good.
20090723 22:56:04< Soliton> i'll do a similar change for the trolls.
20090723 23:01:50< Soliton> ok, committed. feel free to add that failsafe.
20090723 23:02:50< Soliton> stun is a nice weapon special, btw. maybe we should make that into a proper special and see about adding it elsewhere.
20090723 23:03:32< noy> like... umm the kalifa?
20090723 23:04:20< Soliton> sure.
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20090723 23:11:14< Soliton> hrm, when trying to go to the next scenario the campaign ended...
20090723 23:14:06< Soliton> ..and now it worked.
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