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20090731 18:30:10< noy> Soliton: around?
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20090731 21:01:19< Aethaeryn> noy: around?
20090731 21:01:41< noy> yes?
20090731 21:01:45< Aethaeryn> I've been playing my new 1.7.2 map with a few people... I think Soliton has been in every test. But I have a major issue with it.
20090731 21:02:15< Aethaeryn> noy: You're an MP dev, right?
20090731 21:02:19< Aethaeryn> Could use some balancing advice...
20090731 21:03:39< noy> uh, yes
20090731 21:04:30< Aethaeryn> This map I have...
20090731 21:04:46< Aethaeryn> It's designed to be played in two parts, but no one retreats: it'd actually be bad to do so.
20090731 21:05:01< Aethaeryn> So they hold the line, and they either win or they lose and fight to the death at the front line... which renders 1/2 of the map useless
20090731 21:05:23< Aethaeryn> noy: I need some way to give the defender two players a second wind, to determine when they lose and give them a gold bonus
20090731 21:05:41< noy> uh, thats not what I do
20090731 21:05:47< Aethaeryn> Not map balance?
20090731 21:05:49< Aethaeryn> Bah.
20090731 21:06:05< Aethaeryn> I don't know who to talk to about how to determine how someone loses the fight.
20090731 21:11:59< Soliton> well, for the map to allow retreats you need to close it down a bit again so that the defenders don't get outflanked and you need to make the first fortress not so valuable.
20090731 21:23:37< Soliton> noy: you can see the activated lobby bot features in the topic of the lobby channels.
20090731 21:24:06< noy> ilor mentioned that 
20090731 21:24:29< noy> Soliton: I wanted to ask... I think there is a problem with some of the commands though
20090731 21:24:37< Soliton> i'll see about setting a auto op up for you...
20090731 21:24:44< noy> lets say I kick or ban someone with multiple nicks
20090731 21:24:52< noy> (multiple nicks online)
20090731 21:25:00< Soliton> you have no feedback, yes.
20090731 21:25:17< noy> no feedback as in it doesn't tell me that several are kicked?
20090731 21:25:32< noy> on that note I think there is also a major delay between that and kicking the other nicks
20090731 21:25:39< noy> like it could be at least 30 seconds
20090731 21:25:40< Soliton> yeah.
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20090731 21:26:11< Soliton> if irc lags maybe but generally shouldn't be long.
20090731 21:26:13< Soliton> oh..
20090731 21:26:28< Soliton> server just had huge load, that'd do it, too.
20090731 21:26:54< noy> Soliton: its something thats happened before to me
20090731 21:27:14< Soliton> sure, the server is very busy sometimes.
20090731 21:27:33< Soliton> not sure what happened this time though.
20090731 21:31:37< Soliton> ah, the server crashed. :-P
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20090731 21:58:52< Soliton> noy: can you rejoin #wesnoth-mp-lobby-1.6?
20090731 22:00:18< Soliton> ok, now you get autoopped there and can use the commands as explained in the topic.
20090731 22:13:12< Soliton> deekay: why not link your nick with Dragonking?
20090731 22:13:36< deekay> Soliton: Hm, good idea
20090731 22:16:49< Soliton> might have to drop deekay and then link it to Dragonking, not sure.
20090731 22:19:31< deekay> I want to use deekay from now on :)
20090731 22:19:58< Soliton> sure, but Dragonking has the cloak.
20090731 22:20:04< deekay> Yes
20090731 22:20:40< deekay> Anyway, thanks for a tip, I'll figure it out :)
20090731 22:21:02< Soliton> you can probably also just ask a staff member to do it for you.
20090731 22:21:31< Soliton> or maybe there is a way to link existing accounts for normal users.
20090731 22:21:39< Soliton> it used to be that way afair anyway.
20090731 22:32:00< noy> I'm off people
20090731 22:32:01< noy> take care
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20090731 23:20:06< Soliton> better to talk here about server stuff. :-)
20090731 23:20:09< ilor> :)
20090731 23:20:14< ilor> the server writes some stuff during shutdown
20090731 23:21:01< ilor> bans, and now rooms too
20090731 23:21:24< Soliton> bans are saved periodically, i thought.
20090731 23:21:53< Soliton> things should not corrupt/get lost when the server is killed if possible..
20090731 23:22:37< Soliton> though important cleanup can be added to the signal functions at the top of server.cpp.
20090731 23:22:43< ilor> Soliton: they are saved periodically too, I think
20090731 23:23:53< Soliton> the shut_down and restart command are mostly there for the graceful versions.
20090731 23:24:38< Soliton> (i.e. waiting for users to finish their games.)
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20090731 23:44:00< Soliton> ilor: the thing about backwards compatibility is that the triggers are version specific anyway so we'll just add the nickname faking where we have it.
20090731 23:44:30< ilor> Soliton: okay. You're doing the admin response thing now?
20090731 23:44:33< Soliton> so we don't need to modify 1.4 but for 1.6 we want the features anyway.
20090731 23:45:46< Soliton> i can do that sure. just have to come up with a nice string to mark them in the logs.
20090731 23:52:50< Soliton> hmm...
20090731 23:54:17< Soliton> the reponses better go to the mod channel since they can contain sensitive data.
20090731 23:54:57< Soliton> we can allow moderation commands there too just need to add prefixes for the versions or just do it for stable.
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