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20090702 09:06:07< Samurai_Fox> I can't download the lastest build of the game... 20090702 09:06:31< Samurai_Fox> *Sourceforge 20090702 09:06:54< Soliton> seems to work here. 20090702 09:07:55< Samurai_Fox> Ah, it's working now. 20090702 09:08:01-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@98.199.143.139] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 09:08:19< Samurai_Fox> What was happening was that I was getting a 500 error. 20090702 09:09:31< Samurai_Fox> Guess I could've been a little more patient. 20090702 09:10:58< Samurai_Fox> bbl, going to bed and let this download set overnight, can't wait to play it. 20090702 09:11:13-!- Samurai_Fox [i=Chuugoku@ACA22C6C.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Taito is the best!"] 20090702 09:15:32-!- Lirion [n=cynric@wikimedia-commons/Lirion] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090702 09:19:07-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 09:19:07-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has quit [Client Quit] 20090702 09:19:14-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 09:19:14-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has quit [Client Quit] 20090702 09:37:47-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@98.199.143.139] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090702 09:38:21-!- anttil [n=antti@a88-114-44-32.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 09:39:20-!- anttil [n=antti@a88-114-44-32.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090702 09:41:33-!- anttil [n=antti@a88-114-44-32.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 10:10:22-!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ischaldirh, AnMaster, BenUrban, Stealth 20090702 10:10:52-!- Netsplit over, joins: Stealth 20090702 10:15:17-!- AnMaster [n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 10:17:45-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 10:17:45-!- Ischaldirh [n=Ischaldi@c-67-161-190-75.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 10:30:58-!- Nissarin [n=nissarin@91.202.192.102] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 10:43:45-!- Idanwin [n=idanwin@ip-81-11-160-155.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 10:45:11-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 10:46:02-!- Tomsik [n=Tomsik@bbw99.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 10:46:33-!- Woodmouse [n=chatzill@cs27017194.pp.htv.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 10:46:38< Woodmouse> hi 20090702 10:47:22< Woodmouse> I continue making Swamp Dwarves now. :) 20090702 10:50:55< Woodmouse> But I have problems making them Dwarf-size... xD 20090702 10:52:18< Woodmouse> They seem to want to be Giant-size... xD Well, I think I can somehow make a Dwarf-sized Dwarf. xD 20090702 10:57:01-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 11:10:55-!- Woodmouse_ [n=chatzill@cs27017194.pp.htv.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 11:11:05< Woodmouse_> internet problems... :'( 20090702 11:11:38-!- Woodmouse [n=chatzill@cs27017194.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090702 11:11:52-!- Woodmouse_ is now known as Woodmouse 20090702 11:15:13< Woodmouse> I posted the Swamp Dwarf Elder now, and I think I kinda like it... though the eyes are a bit... closed. xD 20090702 11:23:12-!- JorritAfk [n=jorrit@bluecoat2.uzleuven.be] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 11:23:14< JorritAfk> Hi 20090702 11:23:34< JorritAfk> I have a problem. I created a map using the map editor but when I try to load that map in my campaign Wesnoth complains there is an illegal character in the map. 20090702 11:23:43< JorritAfk> But the map still loads fine in the map editor. 20090702 11:24:01< JorritAfk> Unfortunatelly it didn't tell me what the illegal character is. 20090702 11:24:09< Soliton> did you use campaign specific terrain? 20090702 11:24:23< JorritAfk> Well the prestart event adds some terrain. 20090702 11:24:30< JorritAfk> Could that cause this problem? 20090702 11:25:56< JorritAfk> Basically I have a PLACE_DOOR macro similar to what is used in Descent Into Darkness. 20090702 11:26:09< JorritAfk> It uses terrain 'xx' which (according to the wiki) is for custom content. 20090702 11:28:43-!- Aethaeryn [n=Michael@c-98-204-170-162.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #Wesnoth 20090702 11:29:14< JorritAfk> Soliton: I just removed the terrain modifications that I added in 'prestart' and the error remains. 20090702 11:29:18< JorritAfk> So it seems to be something in the map. 20090702 11:29:49< Soliton> yes, you used campaign specific terrain from DiD or UtBS. 20090702 11:30:03< Soliton> (without including it in your campaign.) 20090702 11:30:16< JorritAfk> How can you find out in the editor if something is custom or not? 20090702 11:30:37< ilor> the tooltip with the terrain name is red 20090702 11:30:57< ilor> also, campaign terrains tend to be in their ow groups 20090702 11:31:12< JorritAfk> Hmm 20090702 11:31:19< JorritAfk> It is a normal cave based terrain. 20090702 11:31:23< JorritAfk> I don't see anything special about it. 20090702 11:31:42< JorritAfk> None of the cave icons have a red tooltip. 20090702 11:32:00< Soliton> well, we can keep on guessing or you could post the map.. 20090702 11:32:14< JorritAfk> How can I post it? 20090702 11:32:48< Woodmouse> ... 20090702 11:32:56< Woodmouse> attach it in a post 20090702 11:33:14< Soliton> or use a pastebin.com or the like. 20090702 11:33:20< JorritAfk> http://pastebin.com/m53a133d2 20090702 11:33:24< JorritAfk> Formatting is awful :-) 20090702 11:33:58< Woodmouse> Do you mind if I post my tries of making the Monolith things in the "Items" topic? Or do I make my own topic for them? 20090702 11:35:20< Woodmouse> I think it's safer to make my own topic, but.... Then it gets moved in art workshop. :/ 20090702 11:35:43< Woodmouse> well, I post a new topic of it anyway and see if they're good enoutght for moanline 20090702 11:35:45< Woodmouse> *mainline 20090702 11:36:20< ilor> JorritAfk: ah, the tooltip is red but only in the terrain palette 20090702 11:36:29< JorritAfk> ilor: yes I realized that. 20090702 11:36:31< Soliton> ilor: while switching terrain groups old icons sometimes don't get removed. 20090702 11:36:32< JorritAfk> ilor: but even then. 20090702 11:37:01< ilor> Soliton: huh? 20090702 11:37:40< Soliton> ilor: i have some space terrain pack there as the last usermade group and if i switch from there to utbs it leaves all icons there that don't get overwritten by utbs terrain. 20090702 11:38:00< Woodmouse> :o 20090702 11:38:48< Soliton> actually seems the only way to reproduce it. 20090702 11:39:05< Soliton> so either the last group is special or that terrain pack for some reason. 20090702 11:39:56< ilor> Soliton: got the pack, whoa that's strange :) 20090702 11:40:35< JorritAfk> So, any idea what terrain item that I could have used that doesn't belong to core wesnoth? 20090702 11:42:42< ilor> JorritAfk: doesn't stderr.txt contain the terrain code that's missing? 20090702 11:42:57 * JorritAfk learns something new every day. 20090702 11:43:09< JorritAfk> I didn't knew about those files. 20090702 11:44:10< Soliton> pretty lame that the GUI error doesn't mention it though. 20090702 11:45:03< JorritAfk> Ok, the illegal character is 'Ryi' 20090702 11:45:36< JorritAfk> hmm 20090702 11:45:48< JorritAfk> Seems to be the cave road that I used. 20090702 11:45:55< Woodmouse> :/ 20090702 11:45:58< JorritAfk> But that doesn't have a red outline. 20090702 11:46:01< JorritAfk> Red tooltip I mean. 20090702 11:46:20< Woodmouse> hmmm, was it in "Cave" 20090702 11:46:22< Woodmouse> ? 20090702 11:46:23< JorritAfk> yes 20090702 11:46:27< Woodmouse> :o 20090702 11:46:42< Woodmouse> Then that's weird, I think. 20090702 11:47:09< JorritAfk> The icon has an 'I' on top of it though. 20090702 11:47:11-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 11:47:59< Woodmouse> Is the name red? (lol, I have no idea what a tootlip is) 20090702 11:48:02< Woodmouse> *tooltip 20090702 11:48:04< JorritAfk> No it is not red. 20090702 11:48:15< Woodmouse> :o 20090702 11:48:15< JorritAfk> It is called 'Road (Grotwand)' (dutch version) 20090702 11:48:22< JorritAfk> In plain white text. 20090702 11:48:39< Woodmouse> hmmm, what version do you use? 20090702 11:48:42< JorritAfk> 1.6.2 20090702 11:48:53< Woodmouse> :o 20090702 11:49:02< Woodmouse> that's weird 20090702 11:49:07< Woodmouse> (I mean that it won't work) 20090702 11:49:43-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [] 20090702 11:49:50< Woodmouse> And... Jetryl's new female Footpad looks like it has panties in her head. :o (at least it looks like that to me xD) 20090702 11:50:04< zookeeper> there's no 'Ryi' in mainline. 20090702 11:50:22< Woodmouse> :O 20090702 11:50:26< JorritAfk> Ok, it is part of Under The Burning Suns apparently. 20090702 11:50:30< JorritAfk> I found the image there. 20090702 11:50:40< Woodmouse> ...then it's that what causes it :o 20090702 11:51:02< JorritAfk> Can I assume that Under the Burning suns is always present and include it from there? 20090702 11:51:23< Soliton> no. 20090702 11:51:27< Woodmouse> you need to copy the thing from there 20090702 11:51:31< JorritAfk> ok 20090702 11:51:51< Woodmouse> the terrain file thiny for your campaign/scenario thingy 20090702 11:51:56< Woodmouse> *thingy 20090702 11:52:05< JorritAfk> Ok, thingies... :-) 20090702 11:52:34< JorritAfk> Strange that it wasn't marked as illegal in the editor. 20090702 11:53:57< ilor> hm, the red-tooltip thing seems to be broken atm 20090702 11:53:58< Woodmouse> hmmm, can it be because you have it not in english? 20090702 11:54:08< JorritAfk> Could be, no idea. 20090702 11:54:13< Woodmouse> ilor: Really? :o 20090702 11:54:32< JorritAfk> ilor: the red-tooltip works for some of the groups. But then all items in that group are red. 20090702 11:54:37< Woodmouse> Not for me at least, I mean, I see the campaign terrain thingys as red 20090702 11:54:45< Woodmouse> all of them 20090702 11:55:40-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 11:55:45< ilor> well, it doesn't work for me at all 20090702 11:55:52< Woodmouse> :o 20090702 11:57:30< Woodmouse> lalalaaa, forums seem broken, or I dunno, they're weird. I mean, white. Well, I'll refresh. 20090702 11:57:43< Woodmouse> yay, normal again 20090702 11:59:31< Woodmouse> Haha, I was able to see the future! XD 20090702 12:00:19< JorritAfk> Thanks for the help! I go eat something now. 20090702 12:00:19< JorritAfk> cu 20090702 12:00:26< Woodmouse> cya 20090702 12:01:56< Woodmouse> I remember the first map I made for Wesnoth. :) It was desert, mountains, and road. And a HUGEEE one castle, with 9 players in it. 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20090702 13:18:37-!- Irssi: #wesnoth: Total of 50 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 50 normal] 20090702 13:18:37-!- Home page for #wesnoth: http://www.wesnoth.org 20090702 13:18:43-!- Channel #wesnoth created Sun Nov 26 07:42:43 2006 20090702 13:19:22-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth was synced in 53 secs 20090702 13:22:19-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]"] 20090702 13:29:42< JorritAfk> Time to go 20090702 13:29:52-!- JorritAfk [n=jorrit@bluecoat2.uzleuven.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090702 13:30:02< Woodmouse> bye 20090702 13:32:19-!- allefant is now known as elias 20090702 13:39:36< ilor> Soliton: the space terrain pack was behaving stranegly because there's an image missing, "error editor: image for terrain 10: 'terrain/moon-crater.png' not found" gets all over stderr 20090702 13:39:50< ilor> but also the editor does not handle such a situation as gracefully as it should. 20090702 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It's a place that used to be a good place to watch things like Stargate and the Twilight Zone and cheesy B movies on the weekends. 20090702 16:57:06-!- PokingEntryMSG [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Client Quit] 20090702 16:57:17< shadowmaster> ahh, okay 20090702 16:57:30< Aethaeryn> Except the B movies turned unwatchable with awful plots and CG, and they cancelled both Stargate serieses... And added wrestling. 20090702 16:57:44< Aethaeryn> Whoever's managing the channel is alienating the type of people who LIKE science fiction. 20090702 16:58:27< shadowmaster> wrestling in a sci-fi channel? that sounds like fried chicken with jell'o 20090702 16:58:32< Aethaeryn> http://io9.com/5170447/sci-fi-channel-changes-its-name-to-a-typo <- most of the comments here agree that SyFy is an STD 20090702 16:58:36< shadowmaster> (in the same plate, I mean) 20090702 16:59:00< Aethaeryn> No offense to wrestling fans, but I've never been a sports/physical person and I bet a large person of the science fiction audience also fits this description. 20090702 16:59:05 * shadowmaster slaps himself with a broken analogy 20090702 17:01:13< Aethaeryn> But yes, NBC Universal are a bunch of morons. 20090702 17:02:58-!- ancestral [n=ancestra@198.202.202.22] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 17:03:14< Aethaeryn> For the (hopefully) more intelligent than average viewer base the science fiction channel *should* be aiming at, the only thing aimspeek makez u think bout is orwel 20090702 17:04:10< Aethaeryn> In reality, the Internet invented something far worse than Orwell ever imagined. Orwell did not conceive of the "word" lol. 20090702 17:06:27-!- ancestral [n=ancestra@198.202.202.22] has quit [Client Quit] 20090702 17:06:29< shadowmaster> http://www.puc.cl/informatica/ <- This university's IT dept. page has been like that for a month. 20090702 17:06:45< shadowmaster> I do not know what to think of these morons. 20090702 17:07:54< shadowmaster> they do not know how to add something to their servers so that the clients' browsers refresh their cache automatically. 20090702 17:07:59< shadowmaster> ... 20090702 17:08:52< Aethaeryn> oh, and "SyFy" has the tagline "Imagine Greater" 20090702 17:09:11 * shadowmaster defines this as a moron-moron communcation system, moron at the left side being the IT guys and moron at the right side being myself 20090702 17:09:17< Aethaeryn> I'm sure it does not take a native English speaker to realize that something isn't "quite right" with the grammar. 20090702 17:09:52< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: IT guys (no offense to the vast majority of computer-literate Wesnothians) often seem to be really ignorant a lot. 20090702 17:10:12< Aethaeryn> Overconfident, at least. 20090702 17:10:21-!- BiggieSmalls [n=IceChat7@ool-18bcd3e2.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 20090702 17:10:37< shadowmaster> ahhh wait, they now REQUIRE MONEY for tech support with the WLAN? daaaaaamnit 20090702 17:11:07< shadowmaster> what, are they starving in their comfy chairs? 20090702 17:11:14< Aethaeryn> Interesting: 20090702 17:11:24< Aethaeryn> A comment: 'In Polish, "Syfy" is the plural for "syf," which means "dirt, filth, grime, or pimples" and is colloquial for "syphilis."' 20090702 17:11:44< Aethaeryn> The SciFi channel has become the dirt/syphilis channel. 20090702 17:11:51< shadowmaster> what the hell am I paying the monthly bill for, then? 20090702 17:12:10< shadowmaster> so that they request even more money from me if I ask for little things? aaaah. 20090702 17:12:26< Aethaeryn> I hate hidden fees. 20090702 17:12:46-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@82.5.221.244] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090702 17:12:55< shadowmaster> at least they could have done the decency of providing WLAN connectivity instructions for Linux or MacOS X with the sub-site update 20090702 17:13:48< shadowmaster> I guess I'll have to pay them 10k chilean pesos if I want to have anonymous FTP once and for all 20090702 17:14:59< shadowmaster> (that's around US$ 18) 20090702 17:16:00< shadowmaster> to make things worse, it seems they got rid of the public listing of available TCP ports (which was a lie, anyway) 20090702 17:17:38< Aethaeryn> I guess it all ties into one principle: Most people are morons. 20090702 17:17:41< shadowmaster> second best university in Chile my ass. :/ 20090702 17:17:59-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc3-pnth1-0-0-cust499.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 17:18:39< shadowmaster> screw this damned country. I cannot understand why would you foreigners even _think_ of coming to this third worldy mess. 20090702 17:20:36< Aethaeryn> Chile? 20090702 17:21:01< Aethaeryn> I'd visit for the penguins. Humbolt penguins, I think. 20090702 17:23:35< shadowmaster> ahaha, turns out that I'd have to convince a faculty's own IT staff to convince the university's main IT staff to open ports in the network firewall(s), but only with a good (academic) purpose (redundancy intended) 20090702 17:24:46< shadowmaster> in other words, I'm screwed unless I can convince at least half a faculty that we need FTP. 20090702 17:26:35-!- kane77 [n=kane@194.1.130.108] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 17:26:53< shadowmaster> .... oh my gods. No. I'm outta here. This is enough :/ 20090702 17:28:05< shadowmaster> I'll make sure these bastards get less new students next year. 20090702 17:28:34< elias> why would you need FTP? 20090702 17:28:38< elias> just use sftp 20090702 17:28:46< shadowmaster> elias: Debian's repositories. 20090702 17:28:52< elias> oh 20090702 17:29:05< shadowmaster> and just abou t anything I can stumble upon that is served via FTP 20090702 17:29:08< elias> http should work for those 20090702 17:30:51< shadowmaster> an from now on, usage of the network is strictly for entertainment purposes of any kind is prohibited. That _wasn't_ in the policy that was used before last month :/ 20090702 17:31:11< shadowmaster> screwed, pretty much already? 20090702 17:31:47< Aethaeryn> o.o 20090702 17:33:03< shadowmaster> if somebody asks me about this, I'll say I'm learning English. But that excludes any possibility of ever getting Wesnoth's ports open or bypassing the firewall in front of an authority ;) 20090702 17:33:47< shadowmaster> I could also say I'm learning Perl and PHP. 20090702 17:35:08< shadowmaster> elias: indeed. Apparently there weren't HTTP mirrors in Chile last time I checked (which was last October) :P 20090702 17:35:59< Aethaeryn> I strongly despise censorship 20090702 17:36:15< Aethaeryn> and therefore filters/firewalls 20090702 17:37:02< shadowmaster> this is just a great abuse of authority. It might be that they are really starving in their comfy chairs and want to take vengeance upon us. 20090702 17:38:09< elias> couldn't someone open a wesnoth server on port 80? 20090702 17:38:27< elias> wonder if it would work 20090702 17:39:13< Soliton> sure. 20090702 17:40:10< shadowmaster> I know I am a networking noob, but I had no idea that you could serve multiple services on the same port. 20090702 17:40:25< shadowmaster> (unless I am completely mistaken and the website isn't served by port 80) 20090702 17:40:56< elias> yeah, there couldn't be a website on the same server then 20090702 17:41:38-!- masa_edw [n=masa@7c29465b.i-revonet.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 17:44:48-!- TSI_unpacking is now known as thespaceinvader 20090702 17:47:04-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc3-pnth1-0-0-cust499.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090702 17:51:28< shadowmaster> I wonder if freedesktop.org offers git repositories by other methods than git:// :> 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Cimeries 20090702 20:59:05-!- Cimeries is now known as Cime_AFK 20090702 21:04:37-!- Rodigas [n=Rodigas@p54B6372B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 21:04:52< Rodigas> hi everyone 20090702 21:05:12< Rodigas> is there a wesnoth devel channel available? 20090702 21:05:24-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@98.199.143.139] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090702 21:06:07< Woodmouse> what's a "devel"? (I'm a noob lol) 20090702 21:08:12< Rodigas> development i mean 20090702 21:10:19< Woodmouse> ok 20090702 21:11:49< noy> Rodigas: any particular reason why? 20090702 21:13:00< Rodigas> noy: yes there is problem when playing the map "a new land" 20090702 21:13:29< noy> well the person who maintained it nolonger is around 20090702 21:13:59< noy> also there is a problem with 1.6.3 that is being corrected 20090702 21:14:25< Rodigas> noy: not the problem i have .. :( 20090702 21:14:29< pf2222> what is the problem? 20090702 21:15:55< Rodigas> i could "explore" new units but i could not buy them .. there is only a place with 0 gold and no picture, if i choose it -> crash 20090702 21:16:24< Rodigas> also if i explore all units and try to build some units -> crash 20090702 21:16:49< Rodigas> is it hard to maintain such a map? 20090702 21:17:44< noy> Yes 20090702 21:17:55< noy> what version do you have? 20090702 21:18:42-!- Rrenys [n=rrenys@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 21:20:39< noy> Rodigas: umm what version are you using? 20090702 21:21:17< zookeeper> (that's the relevant bit of information) 20090702 21:22:35< noy> zookeeper: apparently someone uploaded a dodgy version of ANL on the server 20090702 21:22:37< noy> this might be it 20090702 21:23:20< Woodmouse> Claiming the new uploader was Bob? :o 20090702 21:23:24-!- lizard_r [n=Miranda@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 21:23:39-!- Cime_AFK is now known as Cime 20090702 21:23:50-!- Cime is now known as Cimeries 20090702 21:33:12< Rodigas> noy: the problem is in 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 20090702 21:34:07< Rodigas> 1.6.2 from debiam backports and 1.6.3 for windows under wine .. 20090702 21:34:21< Rodigas> *debian 20090702 21:34:27< noy> zookeeper: ? 20090702 21:35:39< zookeeper> yes? 20090702 21:36:00< zookeeper> i still don't know which ANL you're talking about. 20090702 21:36:38< noy> Rodigas: is it the version that came with the game? 20090702 21:36:44< noy> or is it one you just downloaded? 20090702 21:37:03< Rodigas> it comes with the game 20090702 21:37:26< noy> okay, because someone uploaded a dodgy version of it on the server which I just realized 20090702 21:38:35-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 21:38:40< zookeeper> what do you mean by "exploring new units"? 20090702 21:39:00-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit ["Hi! I'm a quit message virus vaccine. If you see a quit message virus, don't replace your quit message with it!"] 20090702 21:39:25< zookeeper> you mean the screen where you can choose which new unit to be able to recruit? 20090702 21:40:09< Rodigas> zookeeper: you could explore new units with a mage on universitys 20090702 21:40:12-!- martin_ [n=martin@f049073068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["leaving"] 20090702 21:41:27< Rodigas> after exploring new units the units are not avaible in the recruit screen or the game crash when try to enter the recruit screen .. 20090702 21:42:38< Rodigas> sometime one new unit is availble, costs "0 gold" and no name or picture available .. 20090702 21:42:55< Rodigas> try to recruit this -> crash 20090702 21:43:17< zookeeper> can you pastebin your stderr.txt? 20090702 21:43:25< zookeeper> (after a crash has happened= 20090702 21:43:26< zookeeper> ) 20090702 21:45:32-!- Dopppp [n=aassdf@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 21:46:16< zookeeper> Rodigas, are you using a translation or playing in english? 20090702 21:46:35< Rodigas> zookeeper: translation is german 20090702 21:47:01< zookeeper> great. could you switch to either english translation and test whether the crash still happens? 20090702 21:49:06< Rodigas> i could try 20090702 21:50:06< Rodigas> zookeeper: http://pastebin.com/d7789ae2b 20090702 21:50:28-!- martin_ [n=martin@f049129186.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 21:50:42< zookeeper> what does Speicherzugriffsfehler mean? 20090702 21:50:53-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has left #wesnoth [] 20090702 21:51:00-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 21:51:01< zookeeper> i think i know what causes the crash, but i'd like to be sure.. 20090702 21:56:43-!- Doppp [n=aassdf@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Success] 20090702 21:57:25< Rodigas> zookeeper: with the english version i have no problem to recruit researched units 20090702 21:58:05< zookeeper> ah, good. hold on a moment.. 20090702 21:58:09-!- uzsolt [i=uzsolt@team.pld-linux.org] has left #wesnoth [] 20090702 21:58:20-!- Dopppp is now known as Doppp 20090702 21:58:41< zookeeper> i'll test my fix quickly and then point you to some fixed files with which the crashes should go away 20090702 21:58:42-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has quit [Client Quit] 20090702 22:00:27< Rodigas> ok thanks 20090702 22:01:58< Soliton> Speicherzugriffsfehler == segfault 20090702 22:07:39-!- Lirion [n=cynric@wikimedia-commons/Lirion] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 22:12:16-!- Woodmouse [n=chatzill@cs27017194.pp.htv.fi] has quit ["Living crap attacks my home! Have to go now!"] 20090702 22:12:28< zookeeper> testing... 20090702 22:12:55-!- kane77 [n=kane@194.1.130.108] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090702 22:12:55< Soliton> zookeeper: translatable string used as identifier? 20090702 22:13:09-!- pf2222 [n=uranium@adsl-68-95-159-17.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #wesnoth [] 20090702 22:13:26< zookeeper> yeah 20090702 22:15:20-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 22:16:13-!- Doppp|EeePC [n=aasdasd@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 22:17:17< zookeeper> ok, Rodigas, try grabbing these three files and overwriting your existing ones with them: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=36536 20090702 22:17:24< zookeeper> then restart wesnoth and see how it works 20090702 22:18:00-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]"] 20090702 22:27:15-!- _tim_ [n=tim@d86-32-174-48.cust.tele2.at] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 22:27:27< zookeeper> Rodigas, and instead of the one from the previous link, use this instead for ANL_leader_options.cfg: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=36537 20090702 22:27:49-!- Doppp|EeePC [n=aasdasd@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090702 22:28:40< Soliton> (see how tough it is to maintain?) 20090702 22:31:54< Rodigas> zookeeper: hm crash segfault .. 20090702 22:32:43< Soliton> it won't help if you continue from a savegame. 20090702 22:33:02< zookeeper> yes, you have to start a new game 20090702 22:33:02< Rodigas> i have to start a new game, ok i try 20090702 22:36:27< Rodigas> zookeeper: ok a new game works well :) 20090702 22:36:37< Rodigas> thanks for the fast fix :D 20090702 22:36:49< zookeeper> no problem, glad it works 20090702 22:37:08-!- Doppp|EeePC [n=aasdasd@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090702 22:37:30-!- Arth [n=Da@cpc3-pnth1-0-0-cust499.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20090702 22:37:32< Rodigas> i play a while with it .. if i notice any problems i write you :) 20090702 22:37:39< zookeeper> sure 20090702 22:37:48< Rodigas> i hope this will be fixed in 1.6.4 :D 20090702 22:38:36< Rodigas> what mean this errors: "20090702 22:36:16 error engine: could not de-serialize unit: 'load_game_failed: Attempt to de-serialize a unit with no 'type' field (probably empty)'" 20090702 22:39:26< Soliton> it means there was a unit type supposed to be specified in some WML but the type key is missing (at least). 20090702 22:39:30-!- _tim_ [n=tim@d86-32-174-48.cust.tele2.at] has left #wesnoth [] 20090702 22:39:43-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Success] 20090702 22:40:16< zookeeper> in this case it means the scenario told the game to allow you to recruit the new unit, but instead of the plain english unit type identifier it gave the game the translated name which the game doesn't understand 20090702 22:41:56< Soliton> well, the error really means there was an empty type key or none at all. 20090702 22:42:28< Soliton> the translation might have been empty because it was in the wrong domain? 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