--- Log opened Mon Jul 06 00:00:16 2009 --- Day changed Mon Jul 06 2009 20090706 00:00:16-!- Doppp [n=aassdf@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090706 00:03:48-!- Doppp|EeePC [n=aasdasd@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 00:06:23-!- amnay [n=amnay@41.140.83.229] has quit [Client Quit] 20090706 00:12:01-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20090706 00:12:09-!- Doppp [n=aassdf@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 00:25:09-!- Doppp [n=aassdf@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090706 00:27:53-!- martin___ [n=martin@g228221233.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20090706 00:29:40-!- LFC|Doppp [n=aassdf@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 00:34:18-!- melinath [n=melinath@stud246074.studentenheim.uni-tuebingen.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 00:34:52< melinath> question: is there an artist with TRoW repaints on the todo list? 20090706 00:35:40< melinath> ... upon reflection, the question: was redundant. But anyway... 20090706 00:36:51< melinath> ...I've never really used IRC before, so someone saying "yes, I can hear you" would also be appreciated. 20090706 00:37:19< melinath> Since I don't know if I'm just typing into space right now... 20090706 00:37:43< grzywacz> ;-) 20090706 00:37:51< grzywacz> I guess it's rather late. 20090706 00:38:06< thespaceinvader> melinath: no there isn't, at present 20090706 00:38:25< thespaceinvader> you're welcome to have a try 20090706 00:38:27< melinath> tsi: ok. Thanks. 20090706 00:38:47< melinath> tsi: heh... thanks for the offer, but I need to learn a lot before I try people portraits. 20090706 00:42:01-!- Blueblaze2 [n=nick@c-98-199-143-139.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 00:42:30< melinath> tsi: besides, want to get the monoliths right first. 20090706 00:43:38< grzywacz> melinath, you can usually use tab to autocomplete nicks 20090706 00:43:43< grzywacz> melinath, the 20090706 00:44:03< grzywacz> That also usually triggers highlights. 20090706 00:44:26< melinath> hmm... gives me /msg 20090706 00:44:34< melinath> not autocompletion 20090706 00:44:36< melinath> but thanks 20090706 00:46:45-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit ["night all"] 20090706 00:47:08< grzywacz> /msg? meh, crappy client ;) 20090706 00:51:39-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@c-98-199-143-139.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20090706 00:51:43-!- Blueblaze2 is now known as Blueblaze 20090706 01:04:16-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090706 01:07:45-!- kane77 [n=kane@194.1.130.108] has quit ["Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC."] 20090706 01:11:59-!- cjhopman [n=chris@wesnoth/developer/cjhopman] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090706 01:25:30< ancestral> Off -topic: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/sports/football/06mcnair.html?ref=sports 20090706 01:32:35< Blueblaze> ancestral: Wasn't that known? 20090706 01:32:48< ancestral> not to me? 20090706 01:32:51< Blueblaze> Well, it was pretty obvious 20090706 01:32:56< Blueblaze> The fact that he died, or it was a homicide? 20090706 01:33:01< ancestral> 'both 20090706 01:33:06< Blueblaze> oh 20090706 01:33:17< Blueblaze> You're a bit late on the news of his death 20090706 01:33:41< Blueblaze> ancestral: You know Michael Jackson died too? 20090706 01:33:42< Blueblaze> :p 20090706 01:33:52< ancestral> Yes I'm not stupid 20090706 01:33:55< ancestral> And Billie Mays 20090706 01:34:19< ancestral> People die all the time 20090706 01:34:27-!- ancestral 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20090706 04:51:44< Rrenys> i bet there still people you havent asked that 20090706 04:51:48< Rrenys> +are 20090706 04:52:30< Blueblaze> Rrenys: Yeah, but shadowmaster seems to know everything I do, so I was surprised he didn't notice this 20090706 04:52:38< Blueblaze> since I talk about it constantly in #wesnoth-music 20090706 04:52:46< shadowmaster> I am not there. 20090706 04:53:05< Blueblaze> I've talked about it multiple times when you were there 20090706 04:53:21< shadowmaster> I wasn't connected to my SSH session probably. 20090706 04:53:45< Blueblaze> That might very well be possible 20090706 04:54:24< shadowmaster> I connected just two hours ago, rpox. 20090706 04:54:25< shadowmaster> *aprox. 20090706 04:54:47< shadowmaster> and IIRC the first thing I did was part channels I didn't need to have joined 20090706 05:05:53-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 05:16:12-!- Doppp|EeePC [n=aasdasd@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit 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thinking they were trying to be "cute" or something with it being on chat, or twitter, or SOMETHING web-related 20090706 09:28:16< Blueblaze> well it was twitter related 20090706 09:28:22< Aethaeryn> oh 20090706 09:28:24< Aethaeryn> well, whatever 20090706 09:28:36< Blueblaze> It came from this line: She immediately Twittered: "OMG OMG OMG OMG i got tickets to the michael jackson memorial service!!!" 20090706 09:28:50< Aethaeryn> okay, whatever 20090706 09:28:59< Aethaeryn> it still shows the destruction of the English language 20090706 09:29:08< Blueblaze> Aethaeryn: Which is why I am learning Italian 20090706 09:29:10< Aethaeryn> aimspeak makes me disappointed 20090706 09:29:18< Blueblaze> okay, that's not the reason, but I still am learning Italian ;p 20090706 09:29:26< Aethaeryn> though, as Jetryl said, these people a few hundred years ago would've been illiterate 20090706 09:29:35< Aethaeryn> which is an extremely powerful counter-point 20090706 09:30:10< Aethaeryn> (counterpoint to the downward trend in language/grammar) 20090706 09:30:21< Aethaeryn> but I digress 20090706 09:30:23< Aethaeryn> I sleep now 20090706 09:30:36< Aethaeryn> Blueblaze: Though Italian is cool, I'm considering learning it 20090706 09:30:42< Aethaeryn> maybe just to spite my sister, who is fluent in French now 20090706 09:30:57< Blueblaze> heh, you need a better reason than that 20090706 09:31:03< Aethaeryn> I'm 1/4 Italian? 20090706 09:31:04< Blueblaze> otherwise you will never get close to becoming fluent in it 20090706 09:31:09< Blueblaze> Aethaeryn: Do you plan on going to Italy? 20090706 09:31:19< Blueblaze> Like, my reason for learning it lies in my plans to move to Italy 20090706 09:31:26< Aethaeryn> Not anytime soon, but definitely want to visit it. 20090706 09:31:27< Blueblaze> otherwise, I'd have no motivation 20090706 09:31:49< Aethaeryn> My language in high school was Latin (so italian will be easier to me than to some)... 20090706 09:32:04< Aethaeryn> And there are some places in the world I'd want to visit - Rome, Jerusalem, Cairo... 20090706 09:32:22< Aethaeryn> All pretty much in the Mediterranean area, except maybe some places in Europe outside that radius 20090706 09:32:28< Aethaeryn> that's just where my area of knowledge tends to be around 20090706 09:33:28< Aethaeryn> Italy though, is definitely high on my list of places to visit. 20090706 09:33:46< Aethaeryn> Maybe I'll visit you one day. 20090706 09:34:01< Blueblaze> Don't expect me to pay for your visit ;p 20090706 09:34:06< Aethaeryn> In whichever Alpine bunker you hide in 20090706 09:34:29< Aethaeryn> Though, maybe I should learn Tibetan. Much more strategic place to bunker up in to await the apocalypse, and cheaper land. 20090706 09:34:33< Blueblaze> What if I move to Sicily? 20090706 09:34:36< Aethaeryn> In the Himilayas 20090706 09:34:42< Aethaeryn> Eh, no one likes Sicily. 20090706 09:34:47< Blueblaze> the Mafia does 20090706 09:34:57< Aethaeryn> Why do you think the Mafia formed out of Sicily? 20090706 09:35:00< Aethaeryn> Napoleon syndrome... 20090706 09:35:13< Aethaeryn> An island trampled over by everyone, so of course they're more prone to pick fights. 20090706 09:35:21< Blueblaze> I wouldn't mind actually living in Sardinia 20090706 09:35:37< Blueblaze> Granted, I do want to tour the mainland a lot, so it might cost me a lot of money to travel there frequently 20090706 09:35:44< Aethaeryn> I grew up many formative years overseas in the Middle East 20090706 09:35:49< Aethaeryn> I'm not sure I want to live overseas 20090706 09:35:56< Aethaeryn> Visit, yes, but not sure about live. 20090706 09:36:19< Blueblaze> hmm 20090706 09:36:33< Aethaeryn> Maybe if I'm rich I can have a Paris home, a London home, a Rome home, a Berlin home, a New York home, a Chicago home, and an LA home... 20090706 09:36:35< Blueblaze> You can apparently get the boat ride from Sardinia to Rome for 20 euros if you book early 20090706 09:37:00< Blueblaze> That isn't so bad 20090706 09:37:21< Aethaeryn> Yeah, though I'm not sure about the Berlin home. Maybe Vienna or Zurich would be better. 20090706 09:37:26< Aethaeryn> oh wait, the boat ride :P 20090706 09:37:44-!- BiggieSmalls [n=IceChat7@ool-18bcd3e2.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 09:37:54< Aethaeryn> One advantage about Italy is cheaper Italian cars. 20090706 09:38:02< Blueblaze> lol 20090706 09:38:10< Blueblaze> Cheaper doesn't mean cheap 20090706 09:38:17< Aethaeryn> You could get something fairly affordable that would be merely a rich person's toy here. 20090706 09:38:28< Aethaeryn> Like $80-$200k instead of $100-300k 20090706 09:38:47< Blueblaze> Yeah, that's not that much cheaper 20090706 09:38:47< Blueblaze> I certainly would never have that kind of money, at least working in Italy 20090706 09:38:56< Aethaeryn> Oh wait, you don't think a Lambo is large enough to live in? 20090706 09:39:37< Blueblaze> Ferrari > Lamborgini 20090706 09:39:43< Aethaeryn> LOL 20090706 09:39:51< Aethaeryn> I was wondering if you were going to bring up Ferrari 20090706 09:39:54< Blueblaze> I am a Ferrari fanboy 20090706 09:39:55< Blueblaze> sorry 20090706 09:40:19< Aethaeryn> That's okay, everyone has character flaws. 20090706 09:41:30< Aethaeryn> I am a bit of a Lamborghini fanboy 20090706 09:41:53< Aethaeryn> So there you go, we've already found uncommon ground out of common interest in Italy. 20090706 09:43:23< Aethaeryn> You'd prefer living on the islands, too. I'd like the mainland. Rome, Venice, etc. 20090706 09:43:59< Aethaeryn> Though I think we can all agree that the French are stupid losers who can't win a war. 20090706 09:44:20< Aethaeryn> (except the french, who will now start listing Italian stereotypes) 20090706 09:44:40< Aethaeryn> Tbh, I bet there are more French Wesnothians than Italians. 20090706 09:44:54< Aethaeryn> oh well 20090706 09:44:57< Aethaeryn> I sleep now 20090706 09:44:59-!- Aethaeryn [n=Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit ["I sleep now"] 20090706 09:45:21< Blueblaze> I never said I -prefered- living on the Islands -_- 20090706 09:47:00-!- Nissarin [n=nissarin@91.202.192.102] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 09:51:34-!- Tomsik [n=Tomsik@bbn51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 10:12:44-!- BiggieSmalls [n=IceChat7@ool-18bcd3e2.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090706 10:26:15-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 10:48:21-!- melinath 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[n=uranium@adsl-68-95-151-212.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 16:36:25< Woodmouse> I'm making a Dark Elf Noble (or something) sprite. :) 20090706 16:38:21< Woodmouse> But I have problems with the perspective... :( 20090706 16:39:55< pf2222> :( 20090706 16:41:12< Woodmouse> Haha, I know a way... 20090706 16:41:34< Woodmouse> I use a "base". 20090706 16:41:56< Woodmouse> I mean, I make a new layer on the Elvish Captain. 20090706 16:42:09< Woodmouse> and then draw on that, so it's not exactly the same, but near it 20090706 16:42:14< Woodmouse> xD 20090706 16:45:38-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc3-pnth1-0-0-cust499.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 16:46:34< Woodmouse> hi 20090706 16:48:41< Unnheulu|Laptop> hi 20090706 16:49:02< Woodmouse> hi 20090706 16:49:05< Woodmouse> hi 20090706 16:49:06< Woodmouse> hihi 20090706 16:49:08< Woodmouse> xD 20090706 16:49:22< Woodmouse> the dark elf will have deadlicks 20090706 16:49:23< Unnheulu|Laptop> Woodmouse: you do know that shadowmaster is on, right? :P 20090706 16:49:25< Woodmouse> *dreadlocks 20090706 16:49:31< Woodmouse> @Un: yea 20090706 17:03:24< Woodmouse> I like Dark Elves 20090706 17:03:30< Woodmouse> and normal Elves 20090706 17:03:33< Woodmouse> and Dwarves 20090706 17:03:35< Woodmouse> xD 20090706 17:07:15< Unnheulu> I hope for your sake that shadowmaster is afk 20090706 17:08:41-!- mich- [n=mich@87.19.243.109] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:09:35< Woodmouse> @Un: You're weird. :S I mean, what does it matter if I say I like Elves and Dwarves? :S 20090706 17:11:22< Ivanovic> hi 20090706 17:16:05< Woodmouse> Yay, the Dark Elf will be my coolest sprite so far, I think. :D 20090706 17:17:33-!- rcsimm [n=ryansimm@vc-41-30-22-41.umts.vodacom.co.za] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:21:09< Woodmouse> Yay, the armor looks cool. :) I make the armors of it purple, and the clothes grey/black otherwise. And grey skin. 20090706 17:22:06< Woodmouse> oh, and of course some TC 20090706 17:23:31-!- ABCD_ [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:23:53-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090706 17:25:34< Woodmouse> Oh, and btw, does anyone know, why there is no mainline dark elf campaigns? Why has no one made one? I mean, I did the crappy desert war campaign, and I'm now making one, but you know, like... a good dark elf campaign. It would be cool. 20090706 17:26:31-!- pf2222 is now known as pf2222_AFK 20090706 17:31:34-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc3-pnth1-0-0-cust499.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090706 17:32:08< Woodmouse> :/ 20090706 17:33:27-!- melinath [n=melinath@134.2.246.33] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:35:54-!- Noyga [n=noyga@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:44:26-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:45:44-!- mich- [n=mich@87.19.243.109] has quit ["Sto andando via"] 20090706 17:47:57-!- mich- [n=mich@87.19.243.109] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:52:26-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:52:45< elias> well, once yours is done, there will be one 20090706 17:53:26< Woodmouse> yea, but not in mainline, probably. 20090706 17:55:22-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20090706 17:55:23< elias> well, with the addon server, it shouldn't matter too much 20090706 17:55:31-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:56:37< Woodmouse> yea 20090706 17:56:56-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has quit [Client Quit] 20090706 17:57:00-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 17:59:44-!- Woodmouse [n=chatzill@cs27017194.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090706 18:00:37-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090706 18:01:35-!- Woodmouse [n=chatzill@cs27017194.pp.htv.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 18:01:36-!- rcsimm [n=ryansimm@vc-41-30-22-41.umts.vodacom.co.za] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090706 18:02:48-!- Noyga [n=noyga@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has quit ["Quitte"] 20090706 18:03:06-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 18:04:06-!- Ivanovic_ [n=ivanovic@dtmd-4db2a9c5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 18:04:19-!- Ivanovic [n=ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20090706 18:04:24-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20090706 18:07:07< Woodmouse> should I wait for people to say how I should continue doing the Dark Elf Noble, or just continue making it the way I've planned? 20090706 18:15:38< Woodmouse> I made a head for it. I'll post it now. 20090706 18:15:59< Woodmouse> posted. 20090706 18:25:44-!- pf2222_AFK [n=uranium@adsl-68-95-151-212.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090706 18:27:28-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20090706 18:30:55-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 18:31:17-!- ABCD_ [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090706 18:32:36-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 18:38:48-!- mich- [n=mich@87.19.243.109] has quit ["Sto andando via"] 20090706 18:39:52-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc3-pnth1-0-0-cust499.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 18:40:01-!- Vornicus [n=vorn@ool-45774a2a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090706 18:43:16-!- elias [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has quit ["Leaving"] 20090706 18:49:21-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@c-98-199-143-139.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 18:49:28< Woodmouse> hi 20090706 18:51:23< Blueblaze> HI Woodmouse! 20090706 18:58:32< Woodmouse> hohoho, I posted the maybe finished (probably not finished, though) Dark Elf Noble now. It's maybe a *bit (lol)* too big for Wesnoth... xD 20090706 18:58:57< Woodmouse> Perspective and proportions are hard... 20090706 18:59:27-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 19:00:30-!- Randorr [i=sascha@tclhelp.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090706 19:00:41< Woodmouse> Hmm, Grzywacz, do you play other games or are on some other forum, because I think I saw your name somewhere else...? :o 20090706 19:01:06< Woodmouse> or maybe it was just a similar name. 20090706 19:01:58< grzywacz> Maybe. 20090706 19:02:03< Woodmouse> ok 20090706 19:02:06< grzywacz> What do *you* play? 20090706 19:02:55< Woodmouse> well, Egoboo. Also I'm using FPS Creator. And... hmmm.... Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3 sometimes. 20090706 19:03:02< Woodmouse> and... hmm 20090706 19:03:26< Woodmouse> some other things, too. I just don't remember right now, lol. 20090706 19:05:14< Unnheulu|Laptop> blob and conquer ;) 20090706 19:05:15< grzywacz> Then it probably wasn't me, I prefer games which are... less simplistic. 20090706 19:05:16< grzywacz> :P 20090706 19:05:35< Woodmouse> ok 20090706 19:06:03< Woodmouse> well, many people use nicks that are similar to yours. 20090706 19:06:17< Woodmouse> I mean, starting with g and are hard to pronounce. xD 20090706 19:08:01< grzywacz> It's easy to pronounce. 20090706 19:08:04< zookeeper> grzywacz, clearly wesnoth isn't for you then, what with KISS and all. 20090706 19:09:37< VurtualRuler98> So, I need a way to play wesnoth with my feet, suggestions? 20090706 19:09:41< grzywacz> I like KISSes. 20090706 19:09:54< grzywacz> VurtualRuler98, why do you need that? 20090706 19:10:03< VurtualRuler98> Because I need my left and right hands for Quake and Half-Life 20090706 19:10:07< grzywacz> VurtualRuler98, move the mouse with your foot. Or better - a trackball. 20090706 19:10:55< VurtualRuler98> Tetris with my left foot, wesnoth with right, dwarf fortress with teeth, quake and half-life with hands. 20090706 19:10:55< Woodmouse> lol 20090706 19:11:06< VurtualRuler98> I can now become the most powerful gamer on earth. 20090706 19:11:13< grzywacz> You could still play DDR with your... bottom. 20090706 19:11:29< Unnheulu|Laptop> and what about the obvious problem of windows running out of space because of some security update? :P 20090706 19:13:34< Unnheulu|Laptop> that happened to me 20090706 19:13:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> I used windows for the first time in about a year, so loads of updated 20090706 19:13:50< Unnheulu|Laptop> *updates 20090706 19:14:07< Unnheulu|Laptop> they took up about 3gb of hd space 20090706 19:14:55-!- glasyalabolis [n=Ron@cpe-72-184-203-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 19:15:11-!- elias [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 19:15:41< Woodmouse> @Un: Whaa!? 3gb!? you mean the big memory thingy? 20090706 19:15:49< Unnheulu|Laptop> elias: thinking of updating campgen? 20090706 19:15:53< Unnheulu|Laptop> Woodmouse: dunno 20090706 19:15:57< Woodmouse> ok 20090706 19:16:02< elias> no, campgen is long dead 20090706 19:16:06< Unnheulu|Laptop> it was about that much 20090706 19:16:08< Unnheulu|Laptop> elias: ok 20090706 19:16:18< Woodmouse> because I have 2gb of the big memory... in my whole computer. 20090706 19:16:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> Maybe one day if I stop being so lazy then I'll build a campaign maker 20090706 19:16:33< Woodmouse> but I have the smaller memory a lot 20090706 19:16:37< Unnheulu|Laptop> Woodmouse: I beat you :P 20090706 19:16:39< Woodmouse> or something 20090706 19:16:46< Unnheulu|Laptop> 0.7gb on my main partition 20090706 19:16:50< Woodmouse> ok 20090706 19:16:53< Woodmouse> :O 20090706 19:16:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> which is like a 60gb partition 20090706 19:17:07< Woodmouse> ok 20090706 19:17:26< Blueblaze> grzywacz: really? 20090706 19:17:30 * Blueblaze needs to try that 20090706 19:17:51< Blueblaze> VurtualRuler98: I bet you could buy a mouse that is controlled by a footpad 20090706 19:17:55< Blueblaze> thats all you need for Wesnoth 20090706 19:18:20< Woodmouse> lol 20090706 19:18:25< Blueblaze> http://www.footmouse.com/ 20090706 19:18:32< Blueblaze> Multiple forms of it exist 20090706 19:18:41< Woodmouse> Almost like Woodmouse. XD 20090706 19:19:32< Blueblaze> http://www.amazon.com/Maxi-Aids-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1246900758&sr=8-2 20090706 19:20:10< Blueblaze> http://www.amazon.com/Kinesis-Savant-Triple-Action-Switch/dp/B000R9T0LO/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1246900758&sr=8-6 20090706 19:20:15< Woodmouse> Woot 20090706 19:20:19< Woodmouse> xD 20090706 19:20:19< Blueblaze> Anyway, I'm sure there hundreds of these on the market 20090706 19:44:36-!- glasyalabolis [n=Ron@cpe-72-184-203-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090706 20:00:28< grzywacz> Blueblaze, really what? 20090706 20:03:18-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has left #wesnoth ["Quitte"] 20090706 20:04:39< Blueblaze> grzywacz: DDR with your butt 20090706 20:04:59< grzywacz> Blueblaze, been there, done that. Works. 20090706 20:05:03< grzywacz> No neet to try it at home. 20090706 20:05:04< grzywacz> :P 20090706 20:05:06< grzywacz> *need 20090706 20:05:38< Blueblaze> lol 20090706 20:07:27< Woodmouse> lol 20090706 20:07:29< melinath> turuk: what's the writing channel's name? 20090706 20:07:39< Turuk> wesnoth-writing 20090706 20:07:42< Turuk> Original, I know ;) 20090706 20:07:51-!- melinath [n=melinath@134.2.246.33] has left #wesnoth [] 20090706 20:08:00< Turuk> Try to join, actually orrr leave 20090706 20:08:01-!- melinath [n=melinath@134.2.246.33] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 20:08:09< Turuk> Melinath, try to join it 20090706 20:08:09< grzywacz> Fail @ invite only 20090706 20:08:10< grzywacz> ;-) 20090706 20:08:14< Turuk> Sweet 20090706 20:08:16< melinath> invite only 20090706 20:08:27< grzywacz> What a 1337 channel! 20090706 20:08:31-!- melinath [n=melinath@134.2.246.33] has left #wesnoth [] 20090706 20:08:42< Turuk> Eh, I just don't want every random person in there ;) 20090706 20:09:17< grzywacz> That must feel great! 20090706 20:09:33< Woodmouse> lol 20090706 20:09:46< Woodmouse> I hate invite only channels, they're somehow so... moddish. xD 20090706 20:11:13< Turuk> Well, imagine me, a mod, being moddish... ;) 20090706 20:12:55< Woodmouse> lol xD 20090706 20:16:17< Woodmouse> It's good when mods are moddish, but when mods are overmoddish, it's not a good thing, I think. Because then they bam påeope so often, and... and... do evil things. xD 20090706 20:16:24< Woodmouse> *ban 20090706 20:16:26< Woodmouse> *people 20090706 20:17:27< Turuk> Ah, banning. 20090706 20:17:28< Turuk> What fun 20090706 20:18:28< Woodmouse> :o 20090706 20:18:55< Woodmouse> You've ever banned anyone? I mean, I can't imagine you banning anyone, because you're a nice mod. xD 20090706 20:20:16< Turuk> I've banned a number of people. 20090706 20:20:22< Woodmouse> ok. O.O 20090706 20:20:34< Turuk> Generally, I try to get around it, yes, but some users deserve it. 20090706 20:21:03< Woodmouse> hmm, is the word "baner" or "banner"? Becaise banner is also the thing that is put in somewhere and wielded, I think... 20090706 20:21:48-!- martin__ [n=martin@g227223062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 20:22:15-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090706 20:22:17< Turuk> Banner is something that is hung, yes 20090706 20:22:32< Turuk> Baner is not a word 20090706 20:22:33-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 20:22:52< Woodmouse> So.. if someone only bans people, he's neither of those? :( 20090706 20:23:02< Turuk> Right 20090706 20:23:40< Woodmouse> Booring. xD I would like to call evil admins and evil mods (none of the Wesnoth ones are those) banners. xD 20090706 20:28:28-!- Unnheulu|Laptop [n=ieuan@cpc3-pnth1-0-0-cust499.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090706 20:29:07< Woodmouse> Hmmm, do you think the Dark Elf Noble is ready? I mean, scaling it down is really hard. I tried doing that, but it just is too hard, because then it loses details, like the spikes in the armor, look weird. 20090706 20:31:18< Woodmouse> okay, I know what it needs: A belt. 20090706 20:31:26< grzywacz> Scaling down? 20090706 20:31:28< grzywacz> Of what? 20090706 20:31:33< grzywacz> Sprites or portraits? 20090706 20:31:40< grzywacz> Because you don't scale pixel art. 20090706 20:31:41< grzywacz> :P 20090706 20:31:45< Woodmouse> ... 20090706 20:31:56< Woodmouse> I mean, the Dark Elf Noble sprite I made. 20090706 20:32:04< Woodmouse> It has too big torso. 20090706 20:32:10< grzywacz> Haven't seen it, but scaling surely isn't going to work. 20090706 20:32:13< grzywacz> Redraw it then. 20090706 20:32:17< grzywacz> Don't you use layers? 20090706 20:32:23< Woodmouse> no, I dont. 20090706 20:32:30< grzywacz> Well, then start doing so, 20090706 20:32:35< grzywacz> You won't improve otherwise. 20090706 20:32:43< Woodmouse> I sometimes do, but it's boring. 20090706 20:32:46< grzywacz> I can see a lot of energy on the forums, but little improvement :P 20090706 20:32:59< Woodmouse> :( 20090706 20:34:15< Woodmouse> @grzywacz: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22140&p=365927#p365927 20090706 20:35:06< grzywacz> Woodmouse, legs look stiff and are too far apart. Also, if you're inspired by ninjas or something like that, he should stand with his knees slightly bent 20090706 20:35:13< grzywacz> That prevents the leg being easily broken with a kick :P 20090706 20:35:49< Woodmouse> hmmm, you're right... But the legs are like that because I tried to make it like... perspectivyish. 20090706 20:35:59< Woodmouse> (lol, perspectivyish) 20090706 20:36:14< grzywacz> The forward one should be bent in the knee. 20090706 20:36:21< grzywacz> Forward-facing, I mean. 20090706 20:36:25< grzywacz> So his left, I guess. 20090706 20:36:39< Woodmouse> hmm 20090706 20:37:05< grzywacz> At least cut him into layers before you begin. 20090706 20:37:09< grzywacz> And work on a different file. 20090706 20:37:10< grzywacz> :P 20090706 20:38:55< Woodmouse> I have one .psd file, which I save over. 20090706 20:39:04< Woodmouse> But the .png files are always new 20090706 20:41:40< Woodmouse> okay, I posted a new version of the DEN (Dark Elf Noble). 20090706 20:41:50< Woodmouse> with knee bent. 20090706 20:42:24< grzywacz> better 20090706 20:42:37< grzywacz> sword looks too short 20090706 20:42:50< Woodmouse> it's a dagger. 20090706 20:42:52< grzywacz> or too straight/rectangular if you wanted to go for a wakizashi look 20090706 20:42:58< grzywacz> blunt dagger :P 20090706 20:43:13< Woodmouse> it's a normal dagger. 20090706 20:43:17< Woodmouse> :P 20090706 20:44:14< grzywacz> it's not 20090706 20:44:30< Woodmouse> ...how so? 20090706 20:44:30< grzywacz> daggers have pointed tips 20090706 20:44:35< grzywacz> yours is flat 20090706 20:44:38< Woodmouse> hmmm 20090706 20:44:42< grzywacz> Looks like a bread knife. 20090706 20:44:54< Woodmouse> tip is the thing it's held with? 20090706 20:45:10< grzywacz> The tip is the thing you stab with. 20090706 20:45:15< grzywacz> Also look at profiling: http://www.a-work-of-art.net/art's work/dagger.JPG 20090706 20:45:18< Woodmouse> oh, lol 20090706 20:45:23< grzywacz> The blade is not straight. 20090706 20:45:32-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@c-98-199-143-139.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090706 20:45:47< Woodmouse> hmmm 20090706 20:50:10< Woodmouse> posted a maybe better version 20090706 20:50:21< Woodmouse> oops 20090706 20:50:25< Woodmouse> I have a typo. :o 20090706 20:50:35< Woodmouse> "Elvis" instead of "Elvish". LOL! 20090706 20:50:49< Woodmouse> fixed xD 20090706 20:51:28< grzywacz> I'd made the tip narrow. 20090706 20:51:37< grzywacz> It looks like a resized version of a huge sword. 20090706 20:51:47< Woodmouse> hmmm, I'll try making it nawwor 20090706 20:51:49< Woodmouse> *narrow 20090706 20:52:02< grzywacz> http://cobysev.smugmug.com/photos/36785212-O.jpg 20090706 20:52:27< Woodmouse> O.O 20090706 20:52:41< grzywacz> Regarding the shape. 20090706 20:52:50< grzywacz> bbl 20090706 20:55:08< Woodmouse> posted a narrowed tip one 20090706 20:56:29< grzywacz> yes 20090706 20:56:31< grzywacz> better 20090706 20:56:44< Woodmouse> \o/ 20090706 20:57:49-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 20:59:45-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090706 21:12:02-!- martin__ [n=martin@g227223062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["leaving"] 20090706 21:14:16-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth to: Wesnoth User Channel | wesnoth.org | http://addons.wesnoth.org | latest stable version: 1.6.4 | latest development version: 1.7.1 | public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org 20090706 21:24:27-!- martin__ [n=martin@f049058225.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 21:24:44-!- Woodmouse [n=chatzill@cs27017194.pp.htv.fi] has left #wesnoth [] 20090706 21:34:29-!- Unnheulu [n=Da@cpc3-pnth1-0-0-cust499.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090706 21:35:55-!- Ischaldirh [n=Ischaldi@c-67-161-190-75.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 21:46:30-!- ancestral [n=ancestra@166.205.4.56] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 21:47:30-!- ancestral [n=ancestra@166.205.4.56] has quit [Client Quit] 20090706 21:56:03-!- uzsolt [i=uzsolt@team.pld-linux.org] has left #wesnoth [] 20090706 22:00:09-!- ABCD [n=ABCD@wikipedia/ABCD] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 22:07:26-!- Aethaeryn [n=Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #Wesnoth 20090706 22:13:04-!- a0xff [n=dragon@p3E9E5B8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 22:13:42-!- a0xff [n=dragon@p3E9E5B8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #wesnoth [] 20090706 22:14:45-!- Randorr [i=sascha@tclhelp.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 22:21:35-!- anttil [n=antti@a88-114-44-32.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090706 22:32:12-!- melinath [n=melinath@stud246033.studentenheim.uni-tuebingen.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 22:34:28-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit ["GO, GET TO THE CHOPPAH!!!"] 20090706 22:40:45-!- melinath [n=melinath@stud246033.studentenheim.uni-tuebingen.de] has left #wesnoth [] 20090706 22:56:26-!- ancestral [n=ancestra@97-116-127-39.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 22:57:00-!- vjoe [n=vjoe@95.95.154.121] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20090706 23:01:34-!- Tomsik [n=Tomsik@bbn51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090706 23:01:56-!- Tomsik [n=Tomsik@bbn51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 23:20:09-!- Tomsik_ [n=Tomsik@bcw103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 23:21:15-!- paridoth [i=4b840dcb@gateway/web/freenode/x-d0bad519e7571b19] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 23:22:07< paridoth> hay quic question im in game i need to see all the dif units when i hit show description, i read there is a debug mode or something i can use even while in a multiplayer game to reveal them, is that true? 20090706 23:30:28< thespaceinvader> paridoth: the command you should type is :discover 20090706 23:30:38< grzywacz> But it works in 1.7 only, doesn't it? 20090706 23:30:51< thespaceinvader> you could be right, grzywacz 20090706 23:31:37< paridoth> ya its saying unkown command 20090706 23:34:29< grzywacz> it's annoying, I never really understood this design 20090706 23:34:34< grzywacz> paridoth, you can use units.wesnoth.org 20090706 23:34:49-!- Tomsik [n=Tomsik@bbn51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090706 23:35:25-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has quit ["night all"] 20090706 23:37:57-!- Tomsik_ [n=Tomsik@bcw103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["Hax pax max"] 20090706 23:40:37-!- BiggieSmalls [n=IceChat7@ool-18bcd3e2.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 23:41:16-!- Lirion [n=cynric@wikimedia-commons/Lirion] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20090706 23:43:10< paridoth> ty 20090706 23:43:20-!- paridoth [i=4b840dcb@gateway/web/freenode/x-d0bad519e7571b19] has quit ["Page closed"] 20090706 23:47:53-!- faryshta [n=faryshta@168.255.251.51] has joined #wesnoth 20090706 23:48:47-!- Nissarin [n=nissarin@91.202.192.102] has quit ["Leaving"] --- Log closed Tue Jul 07 00:00:04 2009