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20090709 00:15:54< Rrenys> Gimp has crashed 4x today, long live the gimp.
20090709 00:16:06< evilshadowm> version?
20090709 00:16:30< Rrenys> 2.6.4, but all versions so far have crashed blody frequently on windows 2k
20090709 00:16:51< elias> maybe it works better on windows 7
20090709 00:17:29< evilshadowm> GIMP 2.6.6 hasn't ever crashed since I installed it months ago (using Debian GNU/Linux 5 'lenny' on amd64)
20090709 00:17:49< Rrenys> new windows costs money
20090709 00:17:51< evilshadowm> GIMP 2.2.x rarely ever crashed for me on WinXP; didn't try other versions
20090709 00:18:04< Rrenys> & no gimp has crashed like that onlinux for me, either
20090709 00:18:08< elias> same here, never had 2.6.6 crash yet
20090709 00:18:16< elias> (linux)
20090709 00:19:04< Rrenys> But there are just so many things i dont like about opensuse, and am too lazy to experimentate with other distros, so ill stick to win2k
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20090709 00:20:44< shadowmaster> I didn't like many thing about openSUSE either; got tired of it, installed Debian lenny when it was still the testing distribution, fell in love with it, I'm still running it with all the upgrades
20090709 00:21:41< elias> i installed debian sid 10 years ago and too lazy to switch to anything else ever since
20090709 00:22:12< shadowmaster> meh. and you never accidentally hit a system-breaking bug? :P
20090709 00:22:29< elias> maybe 2 or 3 times
20090709 00:22:41< elias> but could always fix them within an hour or so
20090709 00:23:02< elias> and if i had waited for the next day they would have been fixed without me fiddling around
20090709 00:23:48< elias> they kinda added "debian experimental" which made "unstable" quite stable :)
20090709 00:24:34< Rrenys> ill try it sometime then
20090709 00:26:40< grzywacz> Yeah, Debian unstable is more stable than most of other stables out there :P
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20090709 02:52:33< Revean> Hello there
20090709 02:54:46< Turuk> Hello
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20090709 03:00:38< Revean> How many MB have 1.6.4 ?
20090709 03:01:17< Rrenys> what
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20090709 03:02:20< Turuk> http://wesnoth.org/
20090709 03:02:37< Turuk> It tells you next to each download
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20090709 05:48:50< shadowmaster> ffffff /quote rehash tresvs
20090709 05:52:58< Rrenys> What did that mean
20090709 05:54:13< shadowmaster> oper command. disregard.
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20090709 06:30:17< Rrenys> Turuk_ http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=55124
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20090709 06:46:36< Rrenys> Turuk_ http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=55124
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20090709 06:47:21< Rrenys> Imo such is way betterfitting than some cuneiforms.
20090709 06:49:01< Turuk> That looks great, and few would bother to try to figure it out
20090709 06:49:20< Turuk> I will gladly defer to your knowledge on this
20090709 06:50:35< Turuk> Is that a particular font, or how are you finding these?
20090709 06:50:43< Turuk> You just know from your own poking around?
20090709 06:51:04< Rrenys> There are some big fontsites out there
20090709 06:51:07< Rrenys> like http://www.dafont.com/
20090709 06:52:26< Turuk> Interesting
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20090709 06:52:29< Rrenys> There are pretty much no fonts that would allow distribution via gpl, but many would allow usage in gpl works
20090709 06:52:58< Rrenys> i dont think there could possibly be any need for the former anyway
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20090709 06:54:30< Turuk> Gotcha, that makes sense
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20090709 11:19:30< Baconizer> Dangit you people
20090709 11:19:34< Baconizer> You develop too fast :P
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20090709 11:26:02< Blueblaze> ?
20090709 11:26:06< Blueblaze> Baconizer: There is no such thing
20090709 11:26:13< Baconizer> Sure there is
20090709 11:26:24< Baconizer> Developers are supposed to be all lazy :P
20090709 11:26:46< Baconizer> They're supposed to be enjoying the screams of the users who want updates so bad it hurts
20090709 11:29:58< Vornicus> Yah, devs are horrible like that.
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20090709 16:24:33< Ivanovic> hi
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20090709 18:11:13< Ken_Oh> hey, if anyone is around that has any idea...do you know if you're starting a MP game if the scenario or the era are included first?
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20090709 18:22:25< zookeeper> Ken_Oh, doesn't make sense. they're both included when entering MP, not when starting a specific game.
20090709 18:24:37< Soliton> (what is your real question?)
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20090709 18:30:55< Ken_Oh> I'm merging an era and an MP scenario into one (i.e. making it so you don't have to choose an era). I know there were some dependencies of the scenario on the era and that worked fine, but lumping them all together is creating problems for both. 
20090709 18:31:14< Ken_Oh> Hmmm, I'm trying to get a handle on the problem, including things in the correct order.
20090709 18:33:11< zookeeper> umm, well, the game includes stuff in the order you include them..
20090709 18:33:30< zookeeper> it includes the add-ons in userdata/data/campaigns/ in alphabetical order, i think
20090709 18:33:43< zookeeper> it's probably unspecified
20090709 18:35:07< Ken_Oh> i'm getting all sorts of problems, but nothing is coming up in the error log. maybe wmlscope would help?
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20090709 18:40:10< GhostOfBanquo> Um. Hello ^^
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20090709 19:11:19< Rrenys> Why, hello there!
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20090709 20:40:55< GhostOfBanquo> I return! Hello Rrenys :D if you are still reading this channel ^^
20090709 20:51:28< GhostOfBanquo> I must say that the Afrikaans translation of Wesnoth is superb. Absolutely superb.
20090709 20:52:41< elias> they didn't just adjust the Dutch version?
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20090709 20:53:27< GhostOfBanquo> Well, if they did, they adjusted it well; Dutch is rather a bit different.
20090709 20:55:01< GhostOfBanquo> They use Z's everywhere, for one thing.... :P ;)
20090709 20:56:21< GhostOfBanquo> Plus, in figurative expressions it's completely different.
20090709 20:57:18< GhostOfBanquo> Afrikaans has a lot of French and local Bantu influence, among other things; I think it would have been easier to do a complete translation than just to adjust one. I don't actually know what they did, though, of course.
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20090709 21:07:16< GhostOfBanquo> Hello ^^
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20090709 21:41:06< Blueblaze> Hello GhostOfBanquo!
20090709 21:41:28< GhostOfBanquo> Hello! :D
20090709 21:41:44< GhostOfBanquo> Where are you from? :)
20090709 21:41:50< Rayden> ;]
20090709 21:42:24< GhostOfBanquo> Hi ^^
20090709 21:42:46< Blueblaze> I am from USA!
20090709 21:42:56< GhostOfBanquo> Cool! :D
20090709 21:43:01< GhostOfBanquo> I'm from South Africa ^^
20090709 21:43:01< Blueblaze> Where are you from?
20090709 21:43:14< Blueblaze> Oh wow, I've never seen a person from South Africa on here :p
20090709 21:43:24< GhostOfBanquo> ^^
20090709 21:43:40< GhostOfBanquo> The South Africans of the internet congregrate mainly on Facebook.
20090709 21:43:51< GhostOfBanquo> Not many of them take an interest in fantasy :(
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20090709 21:45:40< Blueblaze> heh
20090709 21:45:49< Blueblaze> GhostOfBanquo: How long have you been playing Wesnoth?
20090709 21:46:11< GhostOfBanquo> Not very long. 
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20090709 21:46:56< GhostOfBanquo> I watch my brother play, more than I play it. ^^
20090709 21:47:07< GhostOfBanquo> (He's much better at it than I am :P)
20090709 21:47:23< Blueblaze> Heh
20090709 21:47:29< Blueblaze> Do you guys ever play multiplayer, or just single player campaigns?
20090709 21:48:15< GhostOfBanquo> Only single player campaigns so far, but I'm planning on getting him to multiplayer with me once he gets bored with Kane's Wrath ^^
20090709 21:49:26< Blueblaze> heh
20090709 21:52:13< GhostOfBanquo> Wesnoth is a pretty awesome game. ^^ Not that anyone here doesn't know it, but, well, I have to say it.
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20090709 22:06:39< GhostOfBanquo> Hello
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20090709 22:07:53< caboodle> Hi@all
20090709 22:08:05< Blueblaze> addio
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20090709 22:32:07< GhostOfBanquo> Hello ^^
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