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20090710 01:47:01< Aethaeryn> Random chat (which is what a user channel's for)...
20090710 01:47:13< Aethaeryn> If you could have any two "fantasy" traits, what would it be?
20090710 01:47:26< Aethaeryn> Personally, I'd love shapshifting and immortality.
20090710 01:48:07< Rrenys> omniscience and omnipotence
20090710 01:48:18< Aethaeryn> Shapeshifting where you'd basically mirror the enemy (not being an inferior copy, except possibly for magic-casters), and the semi-immortality of where you can't die unless you've been killed (LotR's elves, or Highlander).
20090710 01:48:41< Aethaeryn> < Rrenys> omniscience and omnipotence <- it's not fantasy if something real has those traits ;)
20090710 01:49:06< Rrenys> Uh, who told you i have those?
20090710 01:49:31< Aethaeryn> Wouldn't that make you not omniscient?
20090710 01:50:24< Rrenys> Lets say via omnipotence I have the power to force my conscious self not to know that fact for some particularly devious reason
20090710 01:50:39< Aethaeryn> Eh, or you could always use the God in Genesis argument.
20090710 01:50:52< Rrenys> what is that
20090710 01:51:02< Aethaeryn> "Adam and Eve, why are you clothed?" "Caine, why'd you kill Abel?" etc.
20090710 01:51:08< Rrenys> what is that
20090710 01:51:23< Rrenys> the argument, i mean
20090710 01:51:26< Aethaeryn> Trying to get someone to come clean before punishing?
20090710 01:51:56< Aethaeryn> Or, that you don't exist.
20090710 01:51:59< Aethaeryn> Depends on who you ask.
20090710 01:52:01< Rrenys> ... i thought my english was good, but i dont parse that sentence
20090710 01:52:21< Rrenys> "Trying to get someone to come clean before punishing?"
20090710 01:52:25< Aethaeryn> Eh, basically like when you catch a 5 year old cheating on the spelling test.
20090710 01:52:29< Aethaeryn> And you ask them if they did something wrong.
20090710 01:52:40< Aethaeryn> If they say no, punish them harsher.
20090710 01:52:53< Aethaeryn> Not in my most descriptive mood, kinda tired.
20090710 01:53:05< Rrenys> Why would i punish them
20090710 01:54:00< Aethaeryn> Going back to the Old Testament God argument again.
20090710 01:54:06< Aethaeryn> If you're all powerful, why not?
20090710 01:54:19< Aethaeryn> :P
20090710 01:54:26< Rrenys> Why would i not reward them instead
20090710 01:54:41< Rrenys> Give all people who cheat on a test lots of cake.
20090710 01:54:47< Aethaeryn> Eh...
20090710 01:54:49< Rrenys> Being omnipotent as i am.
20090710 01:55:18< Aethaeryn> Everyone knows that cheating is not okay unless they themselves do it.
20090710 01:55:39< Aethaeryn> Then it's just a "shortcut"
20090710 01:56:24< Rrenys> I mean, at the moment of creating them, i would know everything they do in future life (in Letter To Romans in New Testament that apostel guy iirc affirmed that)
20090710 01:57:17< Rrenys> I would have created the kid to cheat on that test once he gets 5 years old, and he is following the plan just like all the others, i dont why i would punish him
20090710 01:57:32< Rrenys> not that not following ever happens ofc
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20090710 02:01:10< Rrenys> (that apostel guy couldnt come up with a sensible explanations either, only demagogy)
20090710 02:01:18< Aethaeryn> Rrenys: because smiting is fun?
20090710 02:01:31< Rrenys> Why i wouldnt then smite all people _but_ him?
20090710 02:06:25< Aethaeryn> Rrenys: Because that's one less person to smite, thus one less fun.
20090710 02:06:35< Aethaeryn> Of course, I doubt that's the theologically correct sentence
20090710 02:07:07< Rrenys> Uh you are contradicting yourself
20090710 02:07:23< Rrenys> You said i should punish _him_, not all the people in the world
20090710 02:07:39< Rrenys> allthepeopleintheworld - 1 > 1
20090710 02:09:03< Rrenys> But i dont really see why a god would do absolutely anything at all
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20090710 02:10:08< Rrenys> I mean, he should be able to imagine the whole infinite list of chains of consequences of all his actions in one moment, why would he then do anything at all
20090710 02:10:45< Rrenys> Maybe every person turns into a god after dying, but you never know it because they just never do anything :o
20090710 02:10:56< Tomsik_> Religion debates, heh
20090710 02:11:24< Rrenys> the offtopic section on the forum is hauntingly empty of them
20090710 02:11:37< Tomsik_> Just think how all universe's rules would have to fall apart for any god's interaction with the world
20090710 02:11:49< Rrenys> no?
20090710 02:11:54< Tomsik_> conservation of energy etc.
20090710 02:12:00< Tomsik_> which come from more basic properties
20090710 02:12:17< Tomsik_> like conservation of angular momentum
20090710 02:12:41< Tomsik_> it's just that universe has certain type of symmetry when it comes to frames of reference
20090710 02:12:51< Aethaeryn> Not necessarily.
20090710 02:13:01< Aethaeryn> A god that knew everything could have simply planned for a particular moment.
20090710 02:13:10< Tomsik_> or conservation of energy coming from that if you shift whole universe by time t
20090710 02:13:15< Tomsik_> it'll be the same
20090710 02:13:21< Rrenys> Tomsik, how can you know that somewhere outside the known part of universe is a god, vigorously creating more energy&matter out of nothing?
20090710 02:13:30< Rrenys> isnt*
20090710 02:13:38< Tomsik_> Rrenys: then more basic properties fall apart
20090710 02:13:39< Aethaeryn> For example, he could have planned for there to be a dead dinosaur in a certain spot, which would have turned into an oil spot at just the right spot, to be right under some (un)lucky person's house...
20090710 02:13:45< Rrenys> but you would never know it
20090710 02:13:52< Tomsik_> Conservation of energy is a consequence, not axiom
20090710 02:14:02< Rrenys> Aethaeryn, i dont think you are following
20090710 02:14:20< Tomsik_> Aethaeryn: well, then what about free will? :p
20090710 02:14:23< Aethaeryn> well, if intervention appears as intervention...
20090710 02:14:29< Aethaeryn> Tomsik_: then only people have it, if we do :P
20090710 02:15:14< Tomsik_> Butterfly effect
20090710 02:19:13< Rrenys> Aeth, how would he perceive the death of the dinosaur if he actually created it? Via his senses&innateknowledgeofeverything? But being omnipotent, he can already move to that moment of time that would otherwise happen only after billions of years, in one moment, and so experience all possible experiences in one moment
20090710 02:19:37< Rrenys> So there will never be a need to actually _do_ something
20090710 02:23:03< Rrenys> Tomsik_, god could then be violating angular momentum. Or whatever. I dont see how it shows anything.
20090710 02:23:24< Tomsik_> Rrenys: then universe wouldn't have some basic properties
20090710 02:23:44< Tomsik_> like, let's change frame of reference
20090710 02:23:52< Tomsik_> oh, suddenly momentum is different!
20090710 02:23:59< Rrenys> Well sure, the basic properties could change constantly 6 our memories of what they were a moment before would change with them
20090710 02:24:38< Tomsik_> occam's razor :p
20090710 02:25:04< Rrenys> The existence of god is actually the preferrable option by occam's razor imo
20090710 02:25:22< Tomsik_> Eh?
20090710 02:25:27< Tomsik_> 1. Set of clear rules
20090710 02:25:29< Tomsik_> vs 
20090710 02:25:35< Tomsik_> 2. Vague playing with words
20090710 02:25:52< Rrenys> nothing complicated, ever, just "wizard did it". Rather clear ruleset imo
20090710 02:26:07< Tomsik_> That's simple as a sentence in English :/
20090710 02:26:08< Rrenys> as compared to some quantum physics
20090710 02:26:10< Tomsik_> But not really simple
20090710 02:26:13< Rrenys> why not
20090710 02:26:17< Tomsik_> It's simple to your mind
20090710 02:26:24< Tomsik_> That is used to hi-level thinking
20090710 02:26:29< Rrenys> To what it isnt simple then.
20090710 02:26:56< Tomsik_> You first have to know what a wizard is
20090710 02:27:00< Rrenys> god
20090710 02:27:02< Tomsik_> then what "did" and what "it"
20090710 02:27:06< Tomsik_> Well, what is that god?
20090710 02:27:22< Rrenys> ... you have definitionless words in any physics, too
20090710 02:27:36< Tomsik_> Like?
20090710 02:28:09< Rrenys> well you couldnt define anything if you didnt have some set of basic words which dont have definitions, im sure there was some separate term for them
20090710 02:29:01< Tomsik_> Well, if you want, we can get back to ZFC
20090710 02:29:02< Tomsik_> :p
20090710 02:29:09< Tomsik_> Which is pretty simple
20090710 02:29:32< Tomsik_> And plus a few axioms to make whole physics
20090710 02:30:18< Rrenys> naah, wizard did it will always be simpler
20090710 02:30:24< Tomsik_> In English
20090710 02:30:34< Tomsik_> Not any formalised language, that describes anything
20090710 02:31:00< Tomsik_> You can't even define god properly
20090710 02:31:11< Rrenys> you can't define some other things either, as you said
20090710 02:31:34< Tomsik_> No, it's not about that I can't define them
20090710 02:31:48< Tomsik_> It's that I need axioms to make statements
20090710 02:32:01< Rrenys> isnt that the same
20090710 02:32:19< Tomsik_> nope
20090710 02:32:33< Tomsik_> Everything is well-defined, except a set
20090710 02:32:42< Tomsik_> which is a pretty simple concept anyway
20090710 02:32:43< Rrenys> exactly
20090710 02:32:56< Rrenys> uh
20090710 02:33:12< Tomsik_> It does only one thing, groups things :p
20090710 02:33:25< Rrenys> define "thing"
20090710 02:33:30< Rrenys> thats another one
20090710 02:33:37< Tomsik_> literally anything
20090710 02:33:45< Rrenys> you cannot define everything through one word
20090710 02:33:49< Tomsik_> you can have sets of anything you can and cannot think of
20090710 02:33:50< Rrenys> define "everything"
20090710 02:34:08< Tomsik_> set of all objects
20090710 02:34:18< Rrenys> object=thing?
20090710 02:34:23< Rrenys> then you are going in circles
20090710 02:35:39< Tomsik_> if you want, object = set
20090710 02:36:00< Tomsik_> that's what numbers are at least and you can map anything to a number :p
20090710 02:36:01< Tomsik_> of some sort
20090710 02:38:23< Rrenys> doesnt not defining "all" make that definition of everything meaningless?
20090710 02:40:44< Tomsik_> set is something that contains sets or is empty
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20090710 02:42:04< Rrenys> i guess going for one big term via which you can define everything is kind of pointless anyway - i could say there is a term "wizarddidit", which i dont have to define, and everything comes from that
20090710 02:43:33< Tomsik_> No, you define operations on sets
20090710 02:43:37< Tomsik_> and give basic properties
20090710 02:44:38< Rrenys> i give basic properties "Wizard God. He does everything. Any event or matter is an expression of his ultimately random will, not a consequence of anything that i do."
20090710 02:47:23< Tomsik_> Great, except you use concept that need defining
20090710 02:48:03< Rrenys> like what
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20090710 02:48:22< Rrenys> When you define basic properties, you will also need more words than just "set"
20090710 02:48:51< Aethaeryn> I'm sure Synerr could define stuff in a much better way.
20090710 02:48:58< Rrenys> "set set set" -> "set set set set set"
20090710 02:49:45< Tomsik_> Rrenys: Well, what was it called, it had lambda in name
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20090710 02:50:52< Rrenys> the only thing with lambda in its name that i remember is kruskal's lambda thing, i dont suppose its related
20090710 02:51:19< Tomsik_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_calculus
20090710 02:55:15< Rrenys> can you define how it works via just "set"?
20090710 02:56:33< Tomsik_> 1. v belongs to set of variables => v belongs to set of lambda expressions
20090710 02:56:58< Tomsik_> just need implication, which you need either way
20090710 02:57:12< Tomsik_> and belonging to set, which is based on sets containing things
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20090710 02:58:37< Rrenys> thats 4 definitions, with "variables"? (i have no idea how you could define variable via anything tho)
20090710 02:58:38< Rrenys> bleh
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20090710 03:05:57< Soliton> "a wizard did it" doesn't fit occam's razor since it does not actually explain anything.
20090710 03:06:21< Aethaeryn> A wizard did it explains everything.
20090710 03:06:44< Aethaeryn> But it simply isn't creative enough.
20090710 03:06:59< Aethaeryn> Thus myths.
20090710 03:07:08< Rrenys> Is there anything bad about not explaining anything.
20090710 03:09:15< Soliton> the whole idea of "a wizard did it" is to not have to explain.
20090710 03:09:30< Rrenys> yes
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20090710 05:39:54< shadowmaster> the same 4 people and bouncer joined/parted/quitted #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev during the last hour. coincidence? I think not!
20090710 05:41:44< Rrenys> I think you are on to something!
20090710 05:41:59< Rrenys> something devious
20090710 05:42:57< shadowmaster> and you are up early.
20090710 05:43:02< Rrenys> no
20090710 05:43:04< Rrenys> late.
20090710 05:43:15< shadowmaster> 6 in the morning? :P
20090710 05:45:00< Rrenys> A couple of days ago the sky went fully blood-red, which looked awesome, and i wanted to take some pictures of that, and i did - but the stupid camera lost all of them, only one that i took later remained (but there the sky wasnt as awesome anymore). So now i have for some days stayed up late in hopes that sky turns awesome once again
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20090710 05:50:52< Rrenys> So all ive got is this - http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=55370. The sky is only pink, and even there only a small strip of it - but before that it was fully red and awesome - and yes it is totally worth not sleeping.
20090710 05:51:34< shadowmaster> awesome.
20090710 05:51:56< shadowmaster> one doesn't see such phenomena here.
20090710 05:53:11< Rrenys> i dont remember seeing such often here either
20090710 05:53:47< Rrenys> But i think most people just never notice such because they live in towns, where the city light hides all else
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20090710 07:19:56< GhostOfBanquo> Good morning. ^^
20090710 07:22:33< Rrenys> A good morning to you, GhostOfBanquo!
20090710 07:22:56< GhostOfBanquo> Thank you ^^ How are you today?
20090710 07:23:09< GhostOfBanquo> (Or tonight, depending on your timezone ;))
20090710 07:23:12< Rrenys> I am fine, on this fine morning!
20090710 07:23:23< Rrenys> Was Banquo some guy from othello?
20090710 07:23:35< GhostOfBanquo> No, from Macbeth. Close, though :)
20090710 07:24:14< Rrenys> It didnt sound like it would be someone from england
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20090710 07:24:41< GhostOfBanquo> No, it's from Scotland.
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20090710 07:24:50< Rrenys> well, that too
20090710 07:25:29< GhostOfBanquo> Well, the guy's real name was Mac Bethad, which sounds more Scottish. Shakespeare changed it for some reason.
20090710 07:27:59< GhostOfBanquo> It's actually pretty interesting, but the whole Macbeth storyline more or less happened here with the Zulus somewhere in the 19th or 20th century XD
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20090710 07:30:22< Rrenys> Zulus disguised themselves as trees, & killed an evil zulu king guided by 3 zulu witches?
20090710 07:31:21< GhostOfBanquo> Sadly not :( But what happened was, the evil Zulu king killed the good Zulu king who was his brother, and the good Zulu prince fled. Then, he got help from another nation (the Boere) and defeated the evil king.
20090710 07:32:59< GhostOfBanquo> In history the story's not SO unusual, I suppose, but it's cool anyway. ^^
20090710 07:33:28< Rrenys> the history of where i live is certainly more boring.
20090710 07:33:53< GhostOfBanquo> Where do you live?
20090710 07:34:37< Rrenys> estonia.
20090710 07:34:44< Blueblaze> lies!
20090710 07:34:52< Blueblaze> GhostOfBanquo: Do not believe a word he saith!
20090710 07:35:52< GhostOfBanquo> Lol
20090710 07:35:56< GhostOfBanquo> Why not?
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20090710 07:36:26< Blueblaze> I do not know why
20090710 07:36:38< GhostOfBanquo> Ah, okay.
20090710 07:36:55< Blueblaze> Rrenys is from Estonia
20090710 07:37:24< GhostOfBanquo> It sounds awesome, even if its history isn't so interesting ^^
20090710 07:37:42< GhostOfBanquo> (Oh, I need to go. I should be back in about an hour and a half, though :))
20090710 07:37:51< Blueblaze> I bet its history is a lot more interesting than the history of where I am from
20090710 07:37:59< Blueblaze> bye GhostOfBanquo
20090710 07:38:07< GhostOfBanquo> Bye!
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20090710 10:15:41< Ivanovic> moin
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20090710 10:23:09< GhostOfBanquo[A]> Back!
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20090710 10:24:39< GhostOfBanquo> I have just watched Revenge of the Sith for the first time.
20090710 10:27:39< Blueblaze> Rrenys: -^
20090710 10:27:43< Blueblaze> GhostOfBanquo: Welcome back!
20090710 10:27:53< Blueblaze> I saw an opera with you in it
20090710 10:28:09< GhostOfBanquo> (Thanks for the welcome ^^)
20090710 10:28:18< GhostOfBanquo> Oh?
20090710 10:28:34< Blueblaze> The opera Macbeth
20090710 10:28:47< GhostOfBanquo> It's an opera? 0.o I thought it was just a play
20090710 10:28:58< Blueblaze> uhh
20090710 10:29:11< Blueblaze> It is one of the most famous operas in existance :)
20090710 10:29:54< Blueblaze> One of the best works of Verdi imo
20090710 10:29:54< GhostOfBanquo> Oh, I didn't know it was an opera. :)
20090710 10:30:02< GhostOfBanquo> Cool!
20090710 10:30:11< GhostOfBanquo> (I'm out of touch with culture. ^^)
20090710 10:31:00< Blueblaze> Well, imagine the play Macbeth
20090710 10:31:02< Blueblaze> with singing instead
20090710 10:31:10< GhostOfBanquo> H'm....
20090710 10:31:16< GhostOfBanquo> XD
20090710 10:31:27< GhostOfBanquo> I have got to see that....
20090710 10:32:55< GhostOfBanquo> I'm sorry for people who were forced to read Shakespeare, though. It must suck to be forced to.
20090710 10:33:53< Blueblaze> I didn't have much fun reading Shakespeare when I started
20090710 10:34:37< GhostOfBanquo> I didn't either, but that's probably because I picked Julius Caesar to start with....and of course, that I didn't really understand the English.
20090710 10:35:25< Blueblaze> heh
20090710 10:35:34< Blueblaze> King Lear is one of my favorite selections
20090710 10:35:47< GhostOfBanquo> Ooh. I still have to read it. :)
20090710 10:37:06< Blueblaze> I think I'm going to go to bed, goodnight
20090710 10:37:35< GhostOfBanquo> Okay, goodnight!
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20090710 14:14:44< shadowmaster> okay, if a faculty's authority (who also happens to be my teacher) cannot keep a goddman website up to date with the schedule, then I've been definitively wasting my money.
20090710 14:15:34< shadowmaster> *goddamn.
20090710 14:17:33< elias> well, here they had volunteer students maintain the websites :P
20090710 14:17:55< elias> and they usually weren't up-to-date either
20090710 14:18:00 * shadowmaster goes to try his last resource.
20090710 14:18:14< shadowmaster> (after visiting every classroom where we regularly have tests).
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20090710 14:19:34< elias> you are supposed to have a test now?
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20090710 14:21:22 * DeathTheNoob is just an annoyhole
20090710 14:21:37< DeathTheNoob> in the game itself, i'm known as GeorgeGhoal
20090710 14:21:51< DeathTheNoob> ass-head noob
20090710 14:23:33< shadowmaster> elias: exam actually.
20090710 14:24:12< shadowmaster> But yes, I found the classroom (sorta). And with that, I've learned to use my clairvoyance ability.
20090710 14:24:30< shadowmaster> (it's in 6 minutes, actually, too).
20090710 14:24:43< elias> on which topic?
20090710 14:25:45< shadowmaster> differential calculus
20090710 14:25:54< elias> oh. good luck :)
20090710 14:26:07< shadowmaster> thanks, I 'll need it
20090710 14:27:18< shadowmaster> my clairvoyance skills now  allow me to notice that there's a NTP daemon installed on my laptop,  now.
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20090710 17:05:29< amnay> Hi alll
20090710 17:06:14< shadowmaster> why, hello there!
20090710 17:09:53< GhostOfBanquo_> Hello everyone ^^
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20090710 17:25:44< GhostOfBanquo_> Hi ^^
20090710 17:25:49< GhostOfBanquo_> How are you, Tomsik?
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20090710 20:38:58< GhostOfBanquo> Hi ^^
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20090710 20:41:46< Bilbo_Baggins> Hello all.
20090710 20:42:01< GhostOfBanquo> How are you? :)
20090710 20:42:47< Bilbo_Baggins> Not too bad.  Going to work soon.  Just started playing Wesnoth this week.  It's a great game.  I'm more of a "NwN" style player, but I love Wesnoth.  =D
20090710 20:43:02< GhostOfBanquo> :D
20090710 20:43:17< GhostOfBanquo> I'm new to Wesnoth, myself. And it is a great game indeed! :D
20090710 20:43:25< GhostOfBanquo> Which campaign are you doing?
20090710 20:43:56< Bilbo_Baggins> I'm more about the character development and the story.  Oh, shoot.  The one where the King is killed and I am playing his only legit heir.
20090710 20:44:24< Bilbo_Baggins> You?
20090710 20:44:24< GhostOfBanquo> Ah, Heir to the Throne :D
20090710 20:44:28< Bilbo_Baggins> nod
20090710 20:44:54< GhostOfBanquo> I'm busy with the Establishing Wesnoth campaign.
20090710 20:45:08< GhostOfBanquo> (Or actually, my brother is. I just watch ^^)
20090710 20:45:24< GhostOfBanquo> (When things get difficult, at least.)
20090710 20:46:25< Bilbo_Baggins> Ah... Not sure what that is.  I am a totaly newb.  I just grabed it from my list of repos, installed and jumped in and started playing the first thing that came up.  I'm on Isle of the Damned, right now.
20090710 20:46:41< GhostOfBanquo> Hee, no problem ^^
20090710 20:46:59< GhostOfBanquo> Oh, did you take the ship?
20090710 20:47:05< Bilbo_Baggins> Ya
20090710 20:47:07< Bilbo_Baggins> lol
20090710 20:47:18< GhostOfBanquo> ^^;  I went by land.
20090710 20:47:32< Bilbo_Baggins> =D
20090710 20:47:37< GhostOfBanquo> ^^
20090710 20:47:58< Bilbo_Baggins> Does linux have any "TRUELY" native MMO's?
20090710 20:48:05< GhostOfBanquo> I don't know....
20090710 20:49:01< Bilbo_Baggins> Just curious.  Been playing around with dosbox today.  Installed egaTrek (a 1982 Star Trek game)  LOL
20090710 20:49:27< GhostOfBanquo> Cool! 
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20090710 20:49:58< GhostOfBanquo> Speaking of Star Trek, did you see the new movie?
20090710 20:50:09< Bilbo_Baggins> I loved it.  =D
20090710 20:50:24< Bilbo_Baggins> A little different, but it reminded me of Mirror Universe.
20090710 20:50:43< GhostOfBanquo> I loved it too :D
20090710 20:50:54< GhostOfBanquo> Mirror Universe?
20090710 20:51:27< Bilbo_Baggins> Plus now, with a younger cast, they can continue making Star Trek and did a format to the ST hda!  LMAO
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20090710 20:51:41< Bilbo_Baggins> Mirror Universe was a comic made back in the early 90's.
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20090710 20:51:59< GhostOfBanquo> Ahhh.
20090710 20:52:02< Bilbo_Baggins> Also an original episode with it.  Spock and Spock with a beard.  LOL
20090710 20:52:13< GhostOfBanquo> :D
20090710 20:52:42< GhostOfBanquo> I hope they decide to take this cast and run with it, maybe making a new series? ^^
20090710 20:53:26< GhostOfBanquo> Oh, I must go
20090710 20:53:37< GhostOfBanquo> Be back in about three quarters of an hour or so :)
20090710 20:53:44< Bilbo_Baggins> Nod.  I'm hoping....but they can easily mess it up.  ST and TNG were right time, right place kind of things.  Like Star Wars in 77
20090710 20:53:56< GhostOfBanquo> Yep :)
20090710 20:53:58< Bilbo_Baggins> Kk, I'll be at work.  Have a good day.  :)
20090710 20:54:06< GhostOfBanquo> Thanks, you too! :)
20090710 20:54:13< GhostOfBanquo> Enjoy Wesnoth! ^^
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20090710 22:25:33< GhostOfBanquo> Hello ^^
20090710 22:30:50< Blueblaze> hey GhostOfBanquo
20090710 22:34:14< GhostOfBanquo> Hi ^^
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20090710 22:35:02< GhostOfBanquo> I'm creating a Wesnoth map! Which I will probably never play. However, it does create a nice setting for a fanfic. ^^
20090710 22:35:36< Blueblaze> heh
20090710 22:35:52< Blueblaze> I enjoy creating Wesnoth maps as well
20090710 22:35:58< GhostOfBanquo> :D
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20090710 22:49:47< GhostOfBanquo> Hello :)
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20090710 22:54:40< GhostOfBanquo> H'm...."graslande" should be "grasveld".
20090710 22:54:55< GhostOfBanquo> Not that it really matters, but anyway. ^^
20090710 22:56:02< fendrin> GhostOfBanquo: Fill a bug report against it at bugs.wesnoth.org if you want to get that translation bug fixed, please.
20090710 22:56:26< fendrin> GhostOfBanquo: A bug report is easy to fill and the best way that the issue doesn't get forgotten.
20090710 22:56:45< GhostOfBanquo> Ah, thanks. :) I'm not really bothered by it, though.
20090710 22:57:28< GhostOfBanquo> But thank you for the information. :D I'll keep it in mind.
20090710 22:57:54< fendrin> GhostOfBanquo: That's a pitty, we rely on user feedback for the improvement of wesnoth.
20090710 22:58:31< Soliton> actually you should mail the translation maintainer. bugs.wesnoth.org is not really the right place.
20090710 22:59:03< fendrin> sorry for making confusion.
20090710 23:00:45< GhostOfBanquo> Ah, thanks guys (and no problem, fendrin :) ). Well, I did see one or two other errors in the Afrikaans translation, so I can probably mention this one as well. :) (Overall the translation is fantastic, though. :D)
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20090710 23:21:56< mordocai> Hello, does anyone know if there is a way to prevent non-default era units from showing up in help, if i'm not using another era? For instance: I'm playing a multiplayer game in the default era, yet Celestrials still show up in help. It just makes the help seem crowded... I want them there when i'm playing Era of Myths, just not when i'm playing default or a non era of myths campaign...
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20090710 23:23:13< GhostOfBanquo> H'm....
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