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20090714 03:44:58< ljenux> hi
20090714 03:45:06< ljenux> any of developers alive now?
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20090714 03:45:52< Blarumyrran> dead they are all dead
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20090714 03:46:19< Turuk> What do you need?
20090714 03:46:43< Blarumyrran> Who, me?
20090714 03:48:29< Blueblaze> Blarumyrran, Turuk: He left
20090714 03:48:45< Blueblaze> Blarumyrran probably noticed that hence his sarcastic comment :p
20090714 03:49:01< Blarumyrran> It was not sarcastic
20090714 03:50:41< Blueblaze> Then what was it?
20090714 03:50:50< Blarumyrran> non-sarcastic
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20090714 05:00:28< Aethaeryn> The grunt cape thread should be stickied
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20090714 05:39:58< ancestral> Marco
20090714 05:42:20< ancestral> Marco...
20090714 05:44:03< ancestral> Polo anyone? I guess not :(
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20090714 05:45:24< mordocai> polo?
20090714 05:46:31< ancestral> Hey! We have a winner!
20090714 05:46:49< ancestral> Someone's alive
20090714 05:47:40< mordocai> Yeah... i'm talking to my girlfriend, looking for a job, and playing a game of wesnoth... so a little slow :)
20090714 05:49:01< ancestral> Well I'm walking home from downtown, seeing if maybe a bus will go my way, but now I'm not that far
20090714 05:49:22< mordocai> cool... i really need a job... stupid USA economy :(
20090714 05:49:33< ancestral> Hmmm
20090714 05:49:50< ancestral> So whereabouts do you live on this fine country?
20090714 05:50:15< mordocai> springfield, missouri
20090714 05:50:49< ancestral> I know of Springfield, MO
20090714 05:51:17< mordocai> Really? Do you live near here?
20090714 05:51:53< ancestral> No, but my sister went to Truman State and a friend of hers was from Springfield, I think
20090714 05:52:16< mordocai> Oh okay, yeah... it's in the southwest portion of missouri
20090714 05:52:18< ancestral> They have a lot of Chinese restaurants in Springfield, yes?
20090714 05:52:26< mordocai> Yeah, quite a few.
20090714 05:52:54 * ancestral wimped out and caught the aproaching bus
20090714 05:53:18< ancestral> *Approaching
20090714 05:53:28< mordocai> meh, i'd probably do the same.
20090714 05:53:35< ancestral> I'm in Minneapolis
20090714 05:54:26< mordocai> Cool. How's the job market doing up there?
20090714 05:55:04< ancestral> Well, a bunch of high profile places have had layoffs
20090714 05:55:13< ancestral> 3M, Honeywell
20090714 05:55:35< ancestral> But otherwise not a lot worse
20090714 05:55:44< mordocai> Yeah... i got pseudo laid off from best buy. They cut my hours down to like 4 a week then started making up new rules so they could write me up on them.
20090714 05:56:50< ancestral> That sucks
20090714 05:57:08< ancestral> This is the Land of Best Buy
20090714 05:57:12< mordocai> Yeah, so i've been looking fora job since february... have $100.
20090714 05:57:28< mordocai> Best buy is the only real electronics specialty store here...
20090714 05:57:37< ancestral> Their corporate HQ is around here
20090714 05:57:54< ancestral> Same, pretty much
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20090714 05:59:19< ancestral> I'm lucky and I know it
20090714 05:59:37< ancestral> I work for a company that is doing really, really well
20090714 05:59:44< mordocai> In any case... hopefully i get a job soon... luckily i'm just 17(18 in a week) and live with my parents still... .need books and stuff though. And what company?
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20090714 06:00:14< ancestral> Well, I'll make you guess a little
20090714 06:00:27< mordocai> Okay
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20090714 06:00:41< ancestral> It's a Fortune 500 company
20090714 06:00:54< ancestral> They're based in California
20090714 06:01:13< ancestral> They get a ton of press
20090714 06:01:35< mordocai> Hmm...
20090714 06:01:37< ancestral> And they are in consumer electronics
20090714 06:01:50< mordocai> (looking at list of fortune 500 companies)
20090714 06:02:00< ancestral> They're doing REALLY well
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20090714 06:02:12< ancestral> Everybody's heard of them
20090714 06:02:18< mordocai> Welll... not walmart cause they aren't purely electronics...
20090714 06:02:26< mordocai> But walmart is number 1 fortune 500 lol
20090714 06:02:54< mordocai> Ummm.... hewert packard?
20090714 06:03:02< ancestral> This company isn't Walmart, thankfully
20090714 06:03:08< mordocai> Hewlett*
20090714 06:03:18< ancestral> Good guess, but it's not HP
20090714 06:03:39< ancestral> This company does have its own retail stores
20090714 06:04:04< mordocai> Well... dell has retail stores i think... so does apple
20090714 06:05:03< mordocai> Unless it's Honeywell... since you already mentioned it
20090714 06:05:25< ancestral> I believe Dell closed all their stores, which, leaves your other guess there
20090714 06:05:50< mordocai> Well... i really don't know. I'm afraid i don't know much about businesses :(
20090714 06:06:30< ancestral> You guessed it, the fruit company that doesn't sell edible fruit
20090714 06:06:46< mordocai> Oh okay, apple
20090714 06:07:19< mordocai> I like Apple... especially the iphone... though i can't afford one. So i just play with my brother in laws :)
20090714 06:08:04< ancestral> It's what I'm using to chat on IRC with
20090714 06:08:18< mordocai> i figured that when you said you were walking lol...
20090714 06:08:24< mordocai> though blackberries might do it too?
20090714 06:08:50< ancestral> Maybe? :)
20090714 06:09:06< Blueblaze2> Bestbuy is selling PS3s really cheap now
20090714 06:09:19< Blueblaze2> well not cheap, but a package at regular price, but it amounts to a good deal
20090714 06:09:22< mordocai> Best buy is evil :). 
20090714 06:09:31< mordocai> not really... just my old manager there
20090714 06:10:04< ancestral> No I agree, Best Buy IS evil...
20090714 06:10:26< mordocai> kinda like microsoft... I like apple... but i don't like that they are close sourced.
20090714 06:10:39< mordocai> But i understand why... i just prefer linux pcs.
20090714 06:11:28< Blueblaze2> Best Buy is just overpriced
20090714 06:11:36< Blueblaze2> except PS3s!
20090714 06:11:43< mordocai> Very true... $50 vga cables ftw
20090714 06:11:44< ancestral> Webkit is good stuff
20090714 06:12:06< mordocai> With employee discount: $5(emp discount is 5% above cost)
20090714 06:12:08< ancestral> Apple gave us <canvas> for HTML5 :)
20090714 06:12:32< Blueblaze2> Apple gave me an iPhone
20090714 06:12:33< mordocai> Cool, yeah... i really shouldn't even talk about businesses. I don't really know what they do and don't contribute lol
20090714 06:12:35< Blueblaze2> I only had to pay $300
20090714 06:12:35< ancestral> Yeah, my housemate works for Best Buy
20090714 06:13:46< ancestral> Apple really did give me an iPhone...
20090714 06:14:20< mordocai> heh, wish someone would give me one... with a free plan. Those dang plans are expensive. Like 130 a month for unlimited everything.
20090714 06:14:41 * Blueblaze2 hasn't met a single person to ever needed unlimited everything
20090714 06:15:09< mordocai> Yeah, i need the text and data... i need like maybe 200 minutes.
20090714 06:15:10< mordocai> lol
20090714 06:15:25< ancestral> You know, I use like less thab 1000 minutes in a month
20090714 06:15:37< Blueblaze2> The cheapest iPhone plan is like $70 I think
20090714 06:15:40< ancestral> Calling people is passe
20090714 06:15:41< Blueblaze2> not including text
20090714 06:15:50< Blueblaze2> ancestral: calling girls is not
20090714 06:16:02< ancestral> Perhaps
20090714 06:16:08< Blueblaze2> unless they're flakey
20090714 06:16:25< ancestral> But this is the age of Facebook, IM, and twitter
20090714 06:16:25< mordocai> Blueblaze2: Yeah, i looked it up when i still had a job... $70 for data(required) and lowest minutes. $20ish more for text.
20090714 06:16:39< Blueblaze2> mordocai: for unlimited yes
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20090714 06:16:50< Blueblaze2> ancestral: Yes, but that doesn't compare to hearing someone's voice
20090714 06:16:54< ancestral> ancestral likes his original iPhone plan
20090714 06:17:22< Blueblaze2> meh, I have to have 3G here, particularly downtown
20090714 06:17:37< Blueblaze2> I get absolutely no edge coverage when I'm at school
20090714 06:17:45< Blueblaze2> Only old HPNA or w/e it is called
20090714 06:17:47< Blueblaze2> not HPNA
20090714 06:17:49< Blueblaze2> hmm
20090714 06:18:06< ancestral> LTE phones (4G) could come as soon as next year
20090714 06:18:35 * Blueblaze2 would rather a 3G network that covers everything than a spotty 4G network
20090714 06:18:40< Blueblaze2> 3G is plenty fast enough for phones imo
20090714 06:19:00< Blueblaze2> I don't even bother connecting to my school's wifi
20090714 06:28:29< ancestral> I like wifi
20090714 06:31:55< Blueblaze2> less radiation
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20090714 10:53:56< Ivanovic> moin
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20090714 12:17:29< ljenux> hi
20090714 12:17:35< ljenux> any developers alive here?
20090714 12:18:49< Blarumyrran> but none were alive 9h ago?
20090714 12:19:04< grzywacz> ljenux, possibly
20090714 12:19:09< ljenux> ?
20090714 12:19:15< grzywacz> ?
20090714 12:19:17< ljenux> i have a simple question
20090714 12:19:21< ljenux> so
20090714 12:19:28< ljenux> why the hell CTCP?
20090714 12:19:51< grzywacz> are you sure you're on a right channel?
20090714 12:19:58< ljenux> i just want to know in what part of the code is random generator
20090714 12:20:01< ljenux> what file
20090714 12:20:04< ljenux> that's all
20090714 12:20:25< grzywacz> In none. It's a standard library function.
20090714 12:20:31< ljenux> i see
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20090714 12:20:37< ljenux> what library?
20090714 12:20:39< grzywacz> C
20090714 12:20:47< ljenux> ok
20090714 12:21:13< ljenux> can you please in short words explain me how do you count hits and misses in wesnoth?
20090714 12:21:31< ljenux> you calculate terrain percentage and...
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20090714 12:22:00< grzywacz> And get a pseudo-random number, scale it to a 0-100 range, compare with the defense.
20090714 12:22:34< ljenux> ah i see...if number is greater than defence it counts as hit
20090714 12:22:39< ljenux> am i right?
20090714 12:22:57< grzywacz> Yes.
20090714 12:23:00< ljenux> thanks
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20090714 12:23:33< ljenux> one more thing...
20090714 12:23:53< ljenux> in what file in source code you call for random generator and calculate hits?
20090714 12:25:12< grzywacz> actions.cpp probably
20090714 12:25:21< ljenux> ok thanks
20090714 12:25:34< ljenux> you know i had +1245% on taken some day
20090714 12:25:37< ljenux> drove me crazy
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20090714 12:30:29< grzywacz> bad luck :-P
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20090714 13:33:33< GhostOfBanquo_> UtBS is an absolutely awesome campaign! ^^
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20090714 14:41:06< Blarumyrran> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraken:_Tentacles_of_the_Deep
20090714 14:45:58 * Blarumyrran does not believe in coincidences
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20090714 14:58:06< grzywacz> "As a child, Ray Reiter (Charlie O'Connell) was the sole survivor when a giant squid, or kraken, attacked his parents boat. In the present, marine archeologist Nicole (Victoria Pratt) and her assistants Michael (Cory Monteith) and Sally (Michal Yannai) is searching for a legendary opal and a Trojan death mask in the same area."
20090714 14:58:09< grzywacz> Amazing. Must see.
20090714 14:59:18< Blarumyrran> Even the title is stolen from wesnoth. I checked, wesnoth had TentacleOfTheDeep already before 2006.
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20090714 22:32:34< GhostOfBanquo> Hi ^^
20090714 22:33:54< Blueblaze> hey GhostOfBanquo
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20090714 23:16:17< GhostOfBanquo> Aw, missed him/
20090714 23:16:19< GhostOfBanquo> *.
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