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20090716 10:30:47< Ivanovic> moin
20090716 10:31:01< GhostOfBanquo> Hello ^^
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20090716 22:21:27< cib0> hello
20090716 22:21:46< cib0> is any of wesnoth's great artists or someone who knows alot of art around?
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20090716 22:22:50< Ivanovic> cib0: thespaceinvader is one of them
20090716 22:23:06< thespaceinvader> 'sup
20090716 22:23:13< Ivanovic> though most tend to not be in here, they are forum people...
20090716 22:23:51< thespaceinvader> cib0: what's up?
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20090716 22:28:24< cib0> thespaceinvader, thing is, me and a friend are working on a browser game, and we got someone from our school to do the drawing.. she's really good, but she doesn't know how to edit the drawings on the computer, e.g. colouring, shading and all that.. and neither do i.. so it would be really helpful if someone could explain to me the possibilities to do something like that and/or hint me at some useful guides
20090716 22:28:43< cib0> we don't even know what program we could use right now
20090716 22:29:14< thespaceinvader> get GIMP
20090716 22:29:32< thespaceinvader> probably get a tablet, too, if she's serious about getting into digital art
20090716 22:29:51< thespaceinvader> get photoshop if you can afford it/have no scruples :P
20090716 22:30:12< cib0> heh
20090716 22:30:13< thespaceinvader> beyond that, it probably depends what sort of graphics you're interested in
20090716 22:30:53< cib0> well, if you don't mind, i'd like to ask some question about such art in general
20090716 22:30:57< thespaceinvader> i've seen browser games that have been hand drawn and scanned, animated in flash, pixelled very simply, pixelled very elaborately
20090716 22:31:00< thespaceinvader> sure sure
20090716 22:31:02< cib0> s/question/questions
20090716 22:32:22< thespaceinvader> go ahead
20090716 22:32:51< cib0> so, basically, of course there are many ways to create art, but when you use a draw by hand->edit with the computer approach, what is the most common process when doing rather realistic art?
20090716 22:34:02< cib0> i would imagine that you draw the outlines, refine them with some dedicated program, then apply colours and shading, but i really have no idea..
20090716 22:39:17< thespaceinvader> personally, i do everything digitally these days
20090716 22:39:20< thespaceinvader> all in GIMP
20090716 22:39:36< thespaceinvader> used to do sketchs and occasionally inking on paper
20090716 22:40:35< cib0> ah, i see
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20090716 22:43:47< cib0> hm.. i wasn't sure what you meant by tablet.. are you refering to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet ?
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20090716 22:47:57< thespaceinvader> cib0: yes, indeed
20090716 22:48:12< cib0> alright
20090716 22:48:27< thespaceinvader> wacom is the best brand, and their basic models (called bamboo nowadays I think) are reasonably cheap
20090716 22:48:48< thespaceinvader> make sure to get one with pressure sensitivity though...
20090716 22:49:44< cib0> alright
20090716 22:50:03< cib0> thanks alot for the information
20090716 22:50:38< cib0> i do have a better idea of what the problem i have is, now
20090716 22:51:00< cib0> anyway, good night
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20090716 23:36:00< wajimba> Hey everybody- when I'm designing a map, how do I make a unit teleport to a new location?
20090716 23:36:48< fendrin> wajimba: you need to learn wml, the langueage that describes Battle for Wesnoth scenarios. Have a look at the wiki.
20090716 23:37:20< wajimba> is there a way to do it using a : command?
20090716 23:37:20< fendrin> wajimba: It's like a programming language but very easy to learn.
20090716 23:37:37< wajimba> ingame?
20090716 23:37:44< fendrin> wajimba: You mean a command on the ingame command line?
20090716 23:37:57< wajimba> fendrin:yeah
20090716 23:38:04< fendrin> no that is not implemented yet.
20090716 23:38:17< fendrin> but this is a thing that would certainly be usefull
20090716 23:38:17< wajimba> no debug command?
20090716 23:38:33< fendrin> but you can create new units in debug mode
20090716 23:38:47< fendrin> maybe that is what you are looking for
20090716 23:38:54< fendrin> start wesnoth with --debug
20090716 23:39:10< wajimba> I tried :unit x=58, but that didn't actually move the unit 
20090716 23:40:04< zookeeper> if you want to make a scenario where something happens instead of just a map you can play on, then you need to learn WML
20090716 23:40:09< fendrin> wajimba: Yeah, it would be great if such a ingame wml interpreter would exist. But it's not there now
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20090716 23:44:39< wajimba> is there a way to turn off debug mode?
20090716 23:45:56< ABCD> wajimba: ":debug" (IIRC)
20090716 23:46:07< ABCD> ...which also turns it on
20090716 23:46:28< wajimba> mine just says debug mode activated again
20090716 23:46:35< wajimba> maybe it matters who's turn it is
20090716 23:47:14< ABCD> wajimba: well, :help tells you what commands are availible, ":help foo" is help for command ":foo"
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20090716 23:47:58< wajimba> nodebug
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