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20090809 00:00:15< mordante> I'm off night
20090809 00:00:40< corn> night
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20090809 00:00:59< Crab_> corn: also note that time-of-day is location-specific
20090809 00:01:19< corn> location specific?
20090809 00:01:30< Crab_> It's always night in the underworld...
20090809 00:01:42< corn> oh
20090809 00:01:45< corn> scenario specific
20090809 00:01:48< corn> that is ok
20090809 00:02:08< Crab_> tod_manager has    "time_of_day get_time_of_day(int illuminated, const map_location& loc) const; "
20090809 00:02:21< corn> oh
20090809 00:02:27< corn> <- stupid
20090809 00:02:39< Crab_> note the 'illuminated' parameter, as well ...
20090809 00:03:50< corn> so keeping track of tod may not be useful?
20090809 00:04:24< Crab_> corn: well, it is useful, if you want to know if certain unit has fallen under the light of day, or in darkness...
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20090809 00:06:02< corn> ok. I will revise the call to use the location-specific tod 
20090809 00:06:13< Crab_> corn: but you can always mark it with a @todo and deal with most important things first
20090809 00:06:50< corn> ok
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20090809 00:09:13< corn> is it commit ready?
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20090809 00:10:07< Crab_> corn: question: why !game_config::debug  in     "if(enabled_ && !config_.empty() && !game_config::debug) {"  ?
20090809 00:12:13< Crab_> corn: also note that in "const std::string& attacker_type", you actually put ".type_id", so, it's better to use "const std::string& attacker_type_id"
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20090809 00:16:39< corn> Crab_: wrt !game_config::debug, I copied same if conditions as from ~upload_log()
20090809 00:17:08< Crab_> ok
20090809 00:17:21< corn> I will take it out on monday and test if things break
20090809 00:18:27< Crab_> corn: well, in debug mode, unit can appear out of nowhere and (potentially) break the replay (at least so is said in the docs). so let it remain :)
20090809 00:19:05< corn> ok
20090809 00:19:56< corn> I remember we discussed adding a new variable to the upload logs to indicate if the game is in debug mode or if the scenario is in beta/testing
20090809 00:20:30< corn> I still need to figure out a way to prune out things that don't make sense (ex. huge amount of gold)
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20090809 00:21:29< Crab_> corn: yes, but this was a slightly different thing. we wanted to allow UMC creators to set a flag, such as 'this map is (not) ready for uploads'
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20090809 00:21:51< corn> ok
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20090809 00:22:30< corn> commiting my work so far, I will add code in read_replay() that will add this stuff to upload logs later tonight
20090809 00:23:13< Crab_> corn: ok. ping me when it (--new-uploads plus page to see the results) will be ready for testing
20090809 00:23:20< corn> yep
20090809 00:23:40< corn> isn't it 1:23 am in ukraine right now ;) ?
20090809 00:23:45< Crab_> yes, it is
20090809 00:23:52< corn> ok
20090809 00:24:13< corn> it should be ready tomorrow, I will ping you
20090809 00:24:17< Crab_> ok
20090809 00:26:42< CIA-62> cornmander * r37560 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): 
20090809 00:26:42< CIA-62> Added detailed kill-event logging to replays. initial work on parsing those
20090809 00:26:42< CIA-62> events from replays into upload_logs. added hook read_replay() to read replays
20090809 00:26:42< CIA-62> after scenario end but before the upload_log deconstructor is called.
20090809 00:27:01< CIA-62> crab * r37561 /trunk/data/scenario-formula.cfg: fixed stage names in ai config in formula test scenario
20090809 00:28:03< CIA-62> crab * r37562 /trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): new source file for formula debugger
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20090809 01:10:05< Sapient> yo Crab_
20090809 01:10:10< Crab_> hello
20090809 01:10:47< Sapient> wesbot: log 37551
20090809 01:10:51< wesbot> crab * r37551 : fixed a segfault, and added code to allow getting 'variant' from aspects, to be used by formula_ai
20090809 01:10:53< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=37551
20090809 01:11:14< Sapient> I think there is a constructor for config that takes a tagname
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20090809 01:12:31< Crab_> Sapient: about what specific part of r37551 you are talking ?
20090809 01:12:57< Sapient> you could use explicit config(const std::string &child); 
20090809 01:13:32< Sapient> instead of 	if (!c.child("not"))  c.add_child("not");
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20090809 01:14:45< Crab_> Sapient: ok, thanks. that piece of code is a hack anyway (till I find the time to add a static const 'match nothing' terrain_filter )
20090809 01:15:47< Sapient> I preferred your first idea of defining such an instance in terrain_filter.hpp
20090809 01:16:06< Sapient> that way it would be easy to introduce an efficient check for that instance
20090809 01:16:28< Sapient> and return false straightaway (if desired)
20090809 01:16:45< Crab_> Sapient: yes, I'm going to do that. I've just used a bit 'faster to code' solution for the moment.
20090809 01:17:35< Sapient> no harm in that. just thought you might like to know about that convenience constructor
20090809 01:17:47< Crab_> Sapient: yes, thanks for that.
20090809 01:17:48< Sapient> less lines of code and faster than branching there
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20090809 01:29:02< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen cjhopman
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20090809 01:31:44< Sirp> corn: sorry....had to leave before....that sounds really cool. Is your code to statistically sample the database to allow efficient access working well?
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20090809 01:40:07< loonycyborg> corn: It looks like your last commit has broken trunk.
20090809 01:44:50< shadowmaster> loonycyborg: compile error?
20090809 01:45:48< loonycyborg> replay::add_attack takes attacker_type_id while the function later references attacker_type which is not in scope..
20090809 01:46:57< loonycyborg> I wonder whether corn wanted to rename *_type_id to *_type or the other way around :P
20090809 01:47:14< Crab_> *_type => *_type_id
20090809 01:49:21< shadowmaster> there are also some printf usage-related warnings.
20090809 01:49:37< shadowmaster> well, one. Plus two unused-paramater warnings.
20090809 01:49:53< CIA-62> loonycyborg * r37563 /trunk/SConstruct: 
20090809 01:49:53< CIA-62> Check for fribidi, X11, etc only if checks for client dependencies succeed.
20090809 01:49:53< CIA-62> Check for poll, select and round before all other checks.
20090809 01:49:57< CIA-62> loonycyborg * r37564 /trunk/SConstruct: Prevent building of translations if 'wesnoth' target is requested but its dependencies aren't found.
20090809 01:50:02< CIA-62> loonycyborg * r37565 /trunk/src/replay.cpp: Fixed compiler error introduced by r37560
20090809 01:54:27< loonycyborg> corn: ^
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20090809 02:19:45< corn> Sirp: yes, but making new graphs is dependent on coding good evaluator functions to see if there are enough results from the smaller table
20090809 02:20:14< corn> shadowmaster: can you tell me the line numbers?
20090809 02:20:21< corn> loonycyborg: will check commit log now
20090809 02:21:20< corn> ah, sorry about that compiler error, I forgot to change those references when I changed the function prototype
20090809 02:21:27< shadowmaster> loony's Sconstruct commit is making everything recompile again.
20090809 02:21:44< shadowmaster> I'll give you the messages prior to r37565
20090809 02:22:00< shadowmaster> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d561b9e81
20090809 02:22:11< loonycyborg> Yes. That's because config.h changed..
20090809 02:22:29 * loonycyborg forgot that he had pending git commits..
20090809 02:22:57< shadowmaster> corn: sorry, http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d74490a4e . The earlier one had whitespace artifacts after resizing my terminal
20090809 02:23:33< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: Do you have a 64bit OS?
20090809 02:25:00< shadowmaster> yes
20090809 02:25:09< loonycyborg> That would explain why I'm not getting the prinf warnings..
20090809 02:25:11< shadowmaster> Debian lenny, amd64, using kernel 2.6.28.8.
20090809 02:25:21< corn> yeah, I also didn't get those
20090809 02:25:25< loonycyborg> *printf
20090809 02:27:03< corn> I wonder if changing to l instead of d will fix it
20090809 02:27:37< corn> can you change %d to %l or %lu on your end?
20090809 02:28:00< corn> s/%lu/%ll/
20090809 02:28:00< shadowmaster> vim src/replay.cpp
20090809 02:28:04< shadowmaster> duh.
20090809 02:28:17< shadowmaster> sorry, wrong terminal :)
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20090809 02:32:09< CIA-62> shadowmaster * r37566 /trunk/src/replay.cpp: 
20090809 02:32:09< CIA-62> Fix a 64-bit specific gcc/glibc warning concerning usage of printf (%d
20090809 02:32:09< CIA-62> being used for a size_t variable instead of %lu).
20090809 02:32:24< shadowmaster> corn: ^ r37566
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20090809 02:34:40< loonycyborg> Now I'm getting format '%lu' expects type 'long unsigned int', but argument 4 has type 'unsigned int' :P
20090809 02:35:52< shadowmaster> huuuuh.
20090809 02:36:07< loonycyborg> That's because turn var is size_t
20090809 02:36:11< shadowmaster> alright, why are we using printf and its cousins there anyway?
20090809 02:36:19< shadowmaster> loonycyborg: size_t is a long unsigned int here
20090809 02:37:20< loonycyborg> Which apparently has different sizes on different arches..
20090809 02:37:39< loonycyborg> That's why printf is evil :P
20090809 02:39:20< corn> http://h21007.www2.hp.com/portal/site/dspp/menuitem.863c3e4cbcdc3f3515b49c108973a801?ciid=00080055abe021100055abe02110275d6e10RCRD
20090809 02:39:26< corn> Values of type size_t should use the Z size modifier, like so:
20090809 02:39:26< corn> printf ("size_t value = %Zu\n", size); 
20090809 02:39:27< corn> Note that Z is a modifier, not a format. Thus, it can also be used to print signed size_t values, like so:
20090809 02:40:35< shadowmaster> my glibc documentation suggest not to use %Z
20090809 02:40:44< corn> except that the actual printf manpage specifies that the 'z' specifier is the one you want
20090809 02:40:55< shadowmaster> yeah.
20090809 02:41:12< corn> can both of you try recompiling with '%zd'? recompilation is a 15-30 minute affair for me
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20090809 02:42:19< loonycyborg> %zd works fine for me.
20090809 02:42:46< shadowmaster> same.
20090809 02:42:54< corn> ok
20090809 02:43:59< CIA-62> shadowmaster * r37567 /trunk/src/replay.cpp: 
20090809 02:43:59< CIA-62> Use %zd instead of %lu, the latter caused warnings on 32-bit
20090809 02:43:59< CIA-62> platforms... %zd should work for any definition of size_t.
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20090809 03:55:09< Derekkk> I hope there are some formula-ai experts around... My code fails on the 4th line where north_dest should get assigned, but although the variable is created, it never seems to receive any value other than null. http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d75826b0 
20090809 03:55:42< Derekkk> it would be brilliant if someone could take a quick look?
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20090809 07:30:03< CIA-62> cornmander * r37568 /trunk/src/upload_log.cpp: Added kill event data from replays into upload logs.
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20090809 07:44:43< corn> AI0867: around?
20090809 07:45:42< corn> AI0867: I want to use wmlparser in my server-side upload log parser and I need some info on how/if I should use it
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20090809 08:27:02< mordante> servus
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20090809 08:30:15< mordante> silene, regarding the notifications, you were looking to use dbus directly, is that feasible or will you keep using the two libraries?
20090809 08:31:04< silene> mordante: i will keep using two libraries, since kde doesn't react to freedesktop notifications
20090809 08:31:46< mordante> ok, then I'll have look at cmake to also allow these features
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20090809 08:45:36< mordante> corn, shadowmaster said a few days ago the AI0867 is on vacation, so don't expect a fast reply
20090809 09:01:50< corn> mordante: ok
20090809 09:02:14< corn> off to bed now, be back in 8 hours or so
20090809 09:02:50< mordante> night corn 
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20090809 10:36:52< CIA-62> mordante * r37569 /trunk/src/replay.cpp: snprintf -> str_cast.
20090809 10:36:57< CIA-62> mordante * r37570 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Rename the label field to message.
20090809 10:37:02< CIA-62> mordante * r37571 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/wml_message.cfg: Convert listbox to new linked widget style.
20090809 10:37:05< CIA-62> mordante * r37572 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/campaign_dialog.cfg: Convert listbox to new linked widget style.
20090809 10:37:09< CIA-62> mordante * r37573 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/game_load.cfg: Convert listbox to new linked widget style.
20090809 10:37:14< CIA-62> mordante * r37574 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/addon_list.cfg: Convert listbox to new linked widget style.
20090809 10:37:18< CIA-62> mordante * r37575 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/ (3 files): Convert listbox to new linked widget style.
20090809 10:37:23< CIA-62> mordante * r37576 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add more info about the linked group feature.
20090809 10:49:14< Ivanovic> moin
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20090809 11:57:55< Ivanovic> silene: what is the status of the notification changes?
20090809 11:58:07< Ivanovic> that is i know that you tried to switch over to generic dbus messages
20090809 11:58:11< Ivanovic> has it worked out?
20090809 11:58:38< mordante> Ivanovic, <silene> mordante: i will keep using two libraries, since kde doesn't react to freedesktop notifications
20090809 11:58:41< Ivanovic> (mordante wanted to wait with adding it to the cmake recipe till it is sure if the libnotify dependency can be dropped=
20090809 11:58:47< Ivanovic> ah, okay
20090809 11:59:17< mordante> I'll work on it next week
20090809 11:59:56< Ivanovic> okay
20090809 12:00:17< Ivanovic> since there is still at least one blocker in the tracker i won't release 1.7.3 today
20090809 12:00:23< Ivanovic> so it will likely be next week
20090809 12:00:40< mordante> I know I've two blockers on my name ;-)
20090809 12:02:12< silene> Ivanovic: unfortunately, it doesn't work; and since it seems the freedesktop daemon reacts even on kde (and i suppose the converse is true too, a gnome user with kde installed would get the kde notifications), i can't even detect on the fly which notification system to use
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20090809 12:07:13< silene> so, unless someone has a good way to detect which desktop environment is running, it's not possible to merge the two systems
20090809 12:11:35< silene> though, let me try something; it seems the kde desktop environment always define the KDE_FULL_SESSION, and i have a hard time believing a gnome or xfce session would have it, so it may be possible; i will commit something this afternoon
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20090809 15:20:33< silene> the dbus code is driving me crazy... how could someone design a library that complicated to use?
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20090809 15:24:34< loonycyborg> Yes. I wanted to make a unified kde/freedesktop notification support too but I didn't get masochistic enough to fiddle with DBus C api yet :P
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20090809 15:50:40< silene> i'm now able to display notifications; now to get them to update existing ones...
20090809 16:02:57 * deekay summons Crab
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20090809 16:17:57< mordante> ilor, I've some changes for the lobby, but the lobby seems very slow
20090809 16:18:20< mordante> guess I'll need to do some profiling later to see what eats the CPU time
20090809 16:18:29< ilor> mordante: perhaps due to reflowing the layout every second
20090809 16:18:52< mordante> was my first guess as well, but I just disabled that ;-)
20090809 16:19:02< ilor> and yeah this might as well end up being a true gui2 performance test bench
20090809 16:19:33< ilor> also we don't have minimap caching there atm which migh account for some lag when there are many games open
20090809 16:19:55< mordante> That was my second guess 
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20090809 16:22:50< ilor> mordante: is there slowness with little/no games?
20090809 16:22:59< mordante> not really
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20090809 16:31:07< mordante> ilor, how can I make new rooms on a local server?
20090809 16:31:28< ilor> mordante: by default a /join foo should do
20090809 16:31:46< mordante> and it's allowed by default?
20090809 16:32:02< ilor> yes, there's a setting to change it
20090809 16:37:06< mordante> works now, guess I used an old server before :-/
20090809 16:44:36< mordante> Soliton, can you test whether the dynamic_cast issue in the lobby has been resolved?
20090809 16:47:25< Soliton> tweaking wesnothd a bit atm but after that, yes.
20090809 16:48:38< mordante> ok thanks
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20090809 17:15:14< CIA-62> mordante * r37577 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/lobby_main.cfg: Convert listbox to new linked widget style.
20090809 17:15:19< CIA-62> mordante * r37578 /trunk/src/gui/ (auxiliary/window_builder/listbox.cpp widgets/listbox.cpp): 
20090809 17:15:19< CIA-62> Disable old linked widgets method in the listbox.
20090809 17:15:19< CIA-62> At the moment the listbox will trigger an assertion failure, when
20090809 17:15:19< CIA-62> there's still some code which depends on the old way. The code will soon
20090809 17:15:21< CIA-62> entirely be removed.
20090809 17:15:25< CIA-62> mordante * r37579 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
20090809 17:15:25< CIA-62> Added experimental listbox grow support.
20090809 17:15:27< CIA-62> This allows a listbox to grow, but keep the unused area blank instead of
20090809 17:15:29< CIA-62> trying to allocate it for it's content. The feature had minimal testing,
20090809 17:15:31< CIA-62> but ran into a problem that the stacked widget doesn't let the room
20090809 17:15:35< CIA-62> grow. This needs to be fixed before testing further.
20090809 17:16:06< ilor> mordante: what _is_ this linked widget business?
20090809 17:16:31< mordante> ilor, ^ this works nicely when you disable when you remove the stacked widget macro from the game list
20090809 17:16:59< mordante> ilor, that you can now select which listbox columns (and other widgets) need to have the same width
20090809 17:17:22< mordante> instead of explicitly set for all fields and thus requiring all the empty headers
20090809 17:17:32< ilor> not sure I follow
20090809 17:17:56< mordante> before you had to set an empty header field for every body field of a listbox
20090809 17:18:18< mordante> this due to the fact that the engine forced them to be the same width 
20090809 17:18:32< mordante> now the engine no longer does that, and you've to do it manually
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20090809 17:30:06< Soliton> ilor: any idea whether trailing whitespace is ever important in a :command? if not (as i suspect) it'd be great to automatically trim those.
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20090809 17:33:10< ilor> Soliton: iirc trailing space will only be passed to commands that take a "data()" (i.e. take some args and then request everything following the Nth argument)
20090809 17:33:45< Soliton> ok, so just have to strip the string that get_data() returns?
20090809 17:35:05< ilor> Soliton: yes a right trim there should be enough (left trim is already there)
20090809 17:35:14< Soliton> get_arg() just looks for one space though so if there are several the returned string can still contain it?
20090809 17:35:33< Soliton> well, i'll just use utils::strip().
20090809 17:37:22< ilor> Soliton: advance_to_arg moves to the first nonspace char after the first space char
20090809 17:37:38< Soliton> ah, ok.
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20090809 17:55:47< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen Turuk
20090809 17:55:48< wesbot> shadowmaster: Queried user last spoke 2d 11h ago.  Turuk is currently here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev.
20090809 18:05:55< shadowmaster> I suppose nobody came up with a better antispambot measure for the forums (with existing _code_) during this time?
20090809 18:19:14< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: I'm finally working on the TC thing a bit
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20090809 18:33:04< shadowmaster> oh gods.
20090809 18:33:21< crimson_penguin> haha
20090809 18:33:22< Valkier> ?
20090809 18:33:29< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: had you given up on me yet? :)
20090809 18:33:58< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: it actually vaguely works already
20090809 18:34:09< shadowmaster> crimson_penguin: no, I was looking at a phpBB mod's installation instructions.
20090809 18:34:42< shadowmaster>  I found an ambiguous instruction - find this code, etc. etc., the code is repeated many times on the same file for completely different purposes.
20090809 18:34:53< shadowmaster> I see why cycholka didn't even apply it.
20090809 18:35:10< crimson_penguin> ah
20090809 18:35:17< crimson_penguin> phpBB is AWEFUL
20090809 18:35:23< shadowmaster> *aw
20090809 18:37:08< shadowmaster> yeah, so far I have found nobody who will say it is awesome or good (except, perhaps, standard forumers)
20090809 18:40:31 * shadowmaster also happens to find a XHTML bug while applying the same mod.
20090809 18:45:19< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen cib
20090809 18:45:20< wesbot> shadowmaster: Sorry, I don't know of cib.
20090809 18:45:21< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen cib0
20090809 18:45:22< wesbot> shadowmaster: The person with the nick cib0 3d 14h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message: Remote closed the connection
20090809 18:46:01< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: I bet the software I'm managing for the local food co-op here is even worse though :(
20090809 18:47:06< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: lots of code duplication, random acronyms, bugs, bad organization...
20090809 18:47:30< crimson_penguin> in this one place, instead of just opening a file for writing, they first unlinked the file, then opened it in append mode!
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20090809 19:03:16 * shadowmaster notices that cycholka missed other parts of that mod (why the hell am I bothering about applying the syndication mod if it isn't even properly applied in the current forum?!)
20090809 19:18:52< shadowmaster> okay, I have finished the worst part of this work...
20090809 19:19:34< shadowmaster> now I just need to apply the view-or-mark-unreads mod and I can copy my files to wesnoth.org
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20090809 19:44:34< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: great!
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20090809 19:52:35< Aethaeryn> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=375234#p375234
20090809 19:52:53< Aethaeryn> I'm just curious as to an official view of that dragon... as people are saying it's not going to be mainline, only its animations are.
20090809 19:53:11< Aethaeryn> Personally, I think options are good when it comes to mainline-quality monster sprites.
20090809 20:00:01< Valkier> I officially view it as a shame if they don't use it for mainline. Good work there.
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20090809 20:09:05< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: maybe PM Jetrel.
20090809 20:09:32< Soliton> where does it say it won't be going into mainline?
20090809 20:09:32< shadowmaster> you probably won't get an appropriate response here; we are not the art devs
20090809 20:10:08< shadowmaster> okay forget it, you alreay replied.
20090809 20:11:07< loonycyborg> Jetrel visits this channel occasionally. You can expect appropriate response when he's online :P
20090809 20:11:13< Valkier> Yeah. I think the closest you got in here is me, and all I do is draw pretty pictures.
20090809 20:11:37< Valkier> Not even very well :-P
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20090809 20:12:51< shadowmaster> s/devs/directors/  , since TSI idles in here regularly and kitty also visits from time to time.
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20090809 20:26:32< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: tsi is gone for the weekend; I recall reading that.
20090809 20:26:48< shadowmaster> thanks for the info, although I didn't need it
20090809 20:27:05< shadowmaster> now if you could tell me where Turuk is, I'd be greatly thankful.
20090809 20:28:01< Aethaeryn> He probably said something in #Wesnoth-mp sometime when I wasn't online ;)
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20090809 20:37:04< mordante> hi kitty__ 
20090809 20:37:41< kitty__> hi!
20090809 20:37:49< Aethaeryn> We were just talking about you, kitty...
20090809 20:38:06< kitty__> what?
20090809 20:38:07< mordante> kitty__, feel free to ignore me, I just had a look at this portrait today http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=371659#p371659 and have the feeling his hand isn't entirely aligned with the spearshaft
20090809 20:38:33< Aethaeryn> kitty__: check the irclogs.
20090809 20:39:02< shadowmaster> kitty__: we weren't talking anything important, never mind.
20090809 20:39:06< Aethaeryn> It was the conversation just before you entered. I could technically paste/summarize it in 4 lines, but the topic says "Don't paste on IRC!"
20090809 20:39:07< kitty__> mordante: hmm, that feels old by now. the rear knuckles could be a bit higher, but it doesn't really bother me...
20090809 20:39:16 * shadowmaster slaps Aethaeryn 
20090809 20:39:35< Aethaeryn> kitty__: basically I linked to http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=375234#p375234 and asked for advice and the devs said I should rather talk to an art person.
20090809 20:39:41< kitty__> Aethaeryn: I'm not the person to ask anything about pixelart anyways,,
20090809 20:39:47< Aethaeryn> And shadowmaster brought up your name and tsi's name :P
20090809 20:39:51< Aethaeryn> So /me blames shadowmaster 
20090809 20:40:07< kitty__> but Jeterel has a post at the bottom of page 9, where he explains his opinion
20090809 20:41:00< mordante> kitty__, also doesn't bother me, I just noticed it (finally found time to try to catch up with the forum)
20090809 20:41:38< mordante> but takes a lot of time to catch up with all this beautiful art :-)
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20090809 20:42:05< kitty__> :) (also ckeck valkier'S and lordbob's threads!)
20090809 20:42:48< mordante> I did ;-)
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20090809 20:43:19< kitty__> And tsi's, too?
20090809 20:43:22< mordante> really nice to see many portrait artists being around now :-)
20090809 20:43:33< mordante> yup tsi's also
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20090809 20:44:10< kitty__> yep, we seem to get them completed this year 
20090809 20:44:29< mordante> I like to look at all at the "Art Contributions" posts, but most of the time I've not much to add, so just lurk there
20090809 20:45:02< mordante> any plans what you want to work on after they're finished?
20090809 20:45:10< kitty__> we see the view counts, at least ;)
20090809 20:45:34< kitty__> oh, the meinline campaigns, probably a short one. Two brothers or the like
20090809 20:46:37< mordante> cool :-)
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20090809 20:48:39< Soliton> http://nopaste.com/p/aD9cOgllpb  what is the compiler trying to tell me?
20090809 20:49:48< Soliton> the line in question is: wesnothd::player_map::const_iterator pl = std::find_if(players_.begin(), players_.end(), boost::bind(&::match_user_name, _2, username));
20090809 20:50:15< Soliton> and match_user_name looks like: bool match_user_name(std::pair<network::connection, player> pl, const std::string& username)
20090809 20:51:38 * mordante loves template errors :-/
20090809 20:53:38< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: So the wiki is getting updated too? Or is the wiki just going down...
20090809 20:54:38< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: just going down.
20090809 20:54:41< ilor> Soliton: the compile error about an array having negative size is a poor man's static assert used by boost most likely
20090809 20:54:52< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: we didn't get a proper MediaWiki admin yet.
20090809 20:55:19< Soliton> ilor: i figured but that does not help me find out what is actually wrong. :-/
20090809 20:55:26< mordante> I also expected that... only wonder why they didn't use their own static assert
20090809 20:55:42< ilor> mordante: keep in mind we don't use latest boost
20090809 20:56:02< ilor> Soliton: my bet is on a messed up boost::bind call
20090809 20:56:08< mordante> IIRC static assert is alrady pretty old
20090809 20:56:28< mordante> is the amperstand before the function required?
20090809 20:56:40< ilor> required for member functions iirc
20090809 20:56:43< mordante> and what's _2 mapped to
20090809 20:56:55< Soliton> ilor: well, of course. but what is wrong with it?
20090809 20:57:07< ilor> Soliton: canyou post the offending line?
20090809 20:57:13< shadowmaster> huh, for the first time I realize that Firefox has a ALT-<number> binding for switching tabs.
20090809 20:57:15< Soliton> i did.
20090809 20:57:33< ilor> oh. *hides*
20090809 20:57:42< Soliton> mordante: _2 should be the username argument, no?
20090809 20:57:55< Soliton> from match_user_name
20090809 20:58:36< ilor> Soliton shouldn't that be _1?
20090809 20:58:55< Soliton> _1 is the player pair.
20090809 20:58:59< mordante> that's what I also kind of expected
20090809 20:59:18< ilor> doesn't find_if expect a single-arg function?
20090809 20:59:28< mordante> _1 forwards the first parameter send to find_if
20090809 20:59:39< Soliton> ah, ok.
20090809 20:59:46< ilor> and by using _2 you indicate the predicate takes two args which makes find_if vomit
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20090809 21:00:18< Soliton> guess i should have what _2 really means. :-P
20090809 21:00:26< Soliton> +looked up
20090809 21:00:32< mordante> with the _x syntax you can reorder the original parameters by number to the function you bind
20090809 21:00:51< ilor> _1 _2 etc are arguments of the function object you're creating
20090809 21:01:00< Soliton> i thought it would say which argument i'm supplying in the bind call.
20090809 21:01:20< Soliton> great compiled now.
20090809 21:03:07< ilor> boost::bind goes from "unreadable compile error" to "builds and works perfectly" in under 4 seconds
20090809 21:03:26 * Soliton looks at the error again to try to understand it.
20090809 21:05:17 * Soliton is happy it works.
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20090809 21:09:53< CIA-62> soliton * r37580 /branches/1.6/src/server/server.cpp: don't add already existing entries to the ip_log_
20090809 21:09:57< CIA-62> soliton * r37581 /branches/1.6/src/server/ (metrics.cpp metrics.hpp server.cpp): split a requests command from the metrics
20090809 21:10:04< CIA-62> soliton * r37582 /branches/1.6/src/menu_events.cpp: strip whitespace so tabcompleted nicks don't mess up commands
20090809 21:10:05< CIA-62> soliton * r37583 /branches/1.6/src/server/server.cpp: 
20090809 21:10:05< CIA-62> mark online players in the searchlog result
20090809 21:10:05< CIA-62> call searchlog if status found no match
20090809 21:11:48< CIA-62> soliton * r37584 /trunk/src/server/server.cpp: don't add already existing entries to the ip_log_
20090809 21:11:58< CIA-62> soliton * r37585 /trunk/src/server/ (metrics.cpp metrics.hpp server.cpp): split a requests command from the metrics
20090809 21:12:02< CIA-62> soliton * r37586 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: strip whitespace so tabcompleted nicks don't mess up commands
20090809 21:12:06< CIA-62> soliton * r37587 /trunk/src/server/server.cpp: 
20090809 21:12:06< CIA-62> mark online players in the searchlog result
20090809 21:12:06< CIA-62> call searchlog if status found no match
20090809 21:12:18< mordante> ilor, the debug colouring is really interesting, can make an educated guess what my stacked widget problem is :-)
20090809 21:12:36< fendrin> hello
20090809 21:12:39< mordante> guess I should have thought of it before
20090809 21:12:42< mordante> servus fendrin 
20090809 21:13:32< ilor> mordante: how do I enable this?
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20090809 21:14:26< mordante> ilor, haven't committed to code yet, at the moment it wants the colour as integral value instead of a rgba string
20090809 21:15:54< ilor> mordante I suspeced that but wanted to rule out the possiblity that I missed the commit :)
20090809 21:16:01< mordante> :-)
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20090809 21:29:15< Crab_> deekay: you wanted something from me ?
20090809 21:29:22< deekay> Crab_: Yup
20090809 21:29:28< deekay> Crab_: 2 things
20090809 21:29:39< deekay> Crab_: 1) fai commandline does not work properly ;p
20090809 21:30:07< deekay> Crab_: it seems that once it is invoked, it only is "attached" to the one side
20090809 21:31:17< Crab_> deekay: how-to-reproduce ? 
20090809 21:31:30< deekay> Crab_: Run any local 1v1 game
20090809 21:31:37< deekay> f - my_leader
20090809 21:31:38< deekay> end turn
20090809 21:31:42< deekay> f - my_leader
20090809 21:31:51< Crab_> human-vs-human game ?
20090809 21:31:54< deekay> yes
20090809 21:33:14< Crab_> ok
20090809 21:33:18< Crab_> and the second thing ?
20090809 21:33:29< deekay> Actually 2 more, but questions
20090809 21:33:52< Crab_> I'll fix (1) soon
20090809 21:34:12< deekay> I saw you removed recruitment= from AI paramters, and defaul AI does not longer check for possibility of formulaAI doing recruitment
20090809 21:34:20< fendrin> current svn isn't compiling for me. The server fails to build. 
20090809 21:34:28< deekay> How can I reproduce this old behaviour now?
20090809 21:34:43< mordante> fendrin, what error message do you get>
20090809 21:34:45< mordante> ?*
20090809 21:35:01< fendrin> src/server/server.cpp:1606:   instantiated from here
20090809 21:35:02< fendrin> /usr/include/boost/bind.hpp:282: error: cannot convert ‘std::pair<const int, wesnothd::player>’ to ‘int’ in argument passing
20090809 21:35:46< mordante> Soliton loves those errors ;-)
20090809 21:35:49 * mordante hides
20090809 21:36:25< fendrin> what can I tell scons to skip building the server?
20090809 21:36:29< CIA-62> soliton * r37588 /branches/1.6/src/server/server.cpp: added the pm command to the help message
20090809 21:36:33< CIA-62> soliton * r37589 /branches/1.6/src/server/game.cpp: 
20090809 21:36:33< CIA-62> disabled adding the era id to the OOS reason
20090809 21:36:33< CIA-62> it just creates a huge list over time and we'll never know what caused the OOS anyway
20090809 21:36:45< Crab_> fendrin: 'scons wesnoth' ?
20090809 21:37:06< Crab_> deekay: atm 'old' behavior is inaccessible, fixing it is close to top of my todo list.
20090809 21:37:28< deekay> Crab_: ok... so last issue :)
20090809 21:37:50< CIA-62> soliton * r37590 /trunk/src/server/server.cpp: added the pm command to the help message
20090809 21:37:54< CIA-62> soliton * r37591 /trunk/src/server/game.cpp: 
20090809 21:37:54< CIA-62> disabled adding the era id to the OOS reason
20090809 21:37:54< CIA-62> it just creates a huge list over time and we'll never know what caused the OOS anyway
20090809 21:38:44< deekay> Crab_:  Does defining AI cfg work? I would like define Formula AI that has 2 stages, one simple move= where I'll put my recruiting stuff, then fallback
20090809 21:38:51< Crab_> deekay: the reason why I'm breaking those all small things that I was asked to 'commit' in small things, not in 'big commits', so I have to temporary disable some features while I'm working on them
20090809 21:38:51< deekay> As a workaround for now
20090809 21:38:59< fendrin> Crab_: yes, that did it, thanks.
20090809 21:39:02< deekay> Crab_: No worries, I understand :)
20090809 21:39:26< deekay> Crab_: It's just now I'm working on old revision to test osme things :)
20090809 21:39:39< deekay> Crab_: I wanted to play dev game today, but I couldn't make it to work
20090809 21:40:09< Soliton> fendrin: post the first error not the last.
20090809 21:40:22< Crab_> deekay: yes, you can do it via 'two-stage' approach. first stage will recruit if leader is on keep, second stage will fall back to formula ai.
20090809 21:40:33< Crab_> (first stage can use a formula for recruitment)
20090809 21:40:55< deekay> Crab_: Are you sure it works with AI being selected from config?
20090809 21:41:07< deekay> Crab_: Did you test it in MP game?
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20090809 21:42:08< deekay> Crab_: I tried to define fai stage with defined move= but it was not invoked.. or I messed something
20090809 21:42:09< deekay> :)
20090809 21:42:28< Crab_> deekay: it worked when I've tested it, but that was some time ago. Please order those issues by priority, and I'll quickly check/fix them.
20090809 21:43:01< deekay> Crab_: Gimme 10 min ok?
20090809 21:43:09< Crab_> deekay: ok
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20090809 21:44:07< fendrin> Soliton: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d12bc000d
20090809 21:47:45< Soliton> fendrin: fixed.
20090809 21:47:54< CIA-62> soliton * r37592 /trunk/src/server/server.cpp: forgot an adjustment when porting to trunk
20090809 21:51:04< Soliton> mordante: immediate crash when joining the lobby. :->
20090809 21:51:18< Soliton> wesnoth: src/gui/widgets/scrollbar.cpp:231: void gui2::tscrollbar_::recalculate(): Assertion `visible_items_' failed.
20090809 21:51:50< mordante> Soliton, ah great, haven't been able to reproduce it, but ilor ran into it before as well
20090809 21:52:15< Soliton> anything you'd like to know?
20090809 21:52:21< CIA-62> mordante * r37593 /trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
20090809 21:52:21< CIA-62> Add a debug background colour feature for widgets.
20090809 21:52:21< CIA-62> This feature allows a widget's background area to be coloured so it's
20090809 21:52:21< CIA-62> directly visible which area a widget occupies. This feature is meant for
20090809 21:52:21< CIA-62> debugging only and not available for LOW_MEM builds.
20090809 21:52:36< ilor> mordante: this seems to be the one I got while cnagning servers
20090809 21:52:39< mordante> Soliton, yes your screen resolution
20090809 21:52:41< CIA-62> mordante * r37594 /trunk/ (changelog data/gui/default/widget/stacked_widget_default.cfg): The widget in a stacked widget now grows properly.
20090809 21:53:26< Soliton> mordante: 1280x800
20090809 21:54:07< Soliton> wesnoth is windowed but fullscreen.
20090809 21:54:12< fendrin> Soliton: great :-)
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20090809 21:55:34< mordante> ilor, r37593 adds the debug borders
20090809 21:55:37< deekay> Crab_: Does that look ok http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d701d1761 ?
20090809 21:57:11< mordante> ilor, Soliton I think I know what the problem is, the player list gets longer as being able to display
20090809 21:57:23< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: when was the next release going to be btw?
20090809 21:57:26< mordante> but I need more testing
20090809 21:57:40< ilor> mordante: well the player list gets a scrollbar, at least it did a bunch of times for mr
20090809 21:57:54< ilor> mordante: I mean it's all in a scrollbar panel
20090809 21:58:00< Crab_> deekay: yes, looks ok
20090809 21:58:08< deekay> Crab_: It does not work :)
20090809 21:58:27< deekay> Crab_: recruting is not made, just normal default AI turn
20090809 21:58:46< Crab_> deekay: then I'll check it out and fix.
20090809 21:58:53< deekay> Crab_: So I'd say   this AI cfg issue > recruitment thinge > formula commandline
20090809 21:59:01< Crab_> ok
20090809 21:59:04< mordante> ilor, I agree it should, but that listbox is near the bottom at 1280x850
20090809 21:59:06< deekay> Crab_: Thanks :)
20090809 21:59:45< Crab_> (I'll try to fix this issues right now)
20090809 22:00:12< deekay> Crab_: No hurry, it can wait for tomorrow :)
20090809 22:00:33< CIA-62> shadowmaster * r37595 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): 
20090809 22:00:33< CIA-62> Mention fix of bug #14039 in changelogs (music playlists not working,
20090809 22:00:33< CIA-62> yadda yadda yadda...)
20090809 22:00:34< Crab_> deekay: I have some time atm, before I go to sleep
20090809 22:00:42< deekay> Crab_: ok then :)
20090809 22:02:42< mordante> shadowmaster, there are some blockers in the lobby code and we like to have that part stable so people can start to test it
20090809 22:03:48< shadowmaster> mordante: okay, great.
20090809 22:03:56< mordante> why?
20090809 22:04:11< shadowmaster> good question :/
20090809 22:04:34< shadowmaster> because it means more people will be able to test it?
20090809 22:04:58< Soliton> mordante: this time it worked and the player list has a scrollbar.
20090809 22:05:22< Soliton> 3 nicks off screen.
20090809 22:05:24< corn> I should probably update the changelogs to reflect the new stuff with --screenshot and --new-uploader
20090809 22:05:52< Soliton> are thos mentioned in --help and the man page?
20090809 22:05:58< mordante> Soliton, ok, guess it's either a random problem or needs specific conditions to trigger them
20090809 22:06:02< corn> only in --help for now
20090809 22:06:06< corn> I didn't update the manpage yet
20090809 22:06:21< Soliton> mordante: maybe there was a nick to *wide* for the list.
20090809 22:06:27< fendrin> Are there any water ambient sounds anywhere?
20090809 22:07:02< mordante> I doubt it, I could reproduce it at 1280x800 but it worked on 1280x900 and 1280x850
20090809 22:07:13< shadowmaster> fendrin: data/core/sounds/ambient/ship.ogg
20090809 22:07:15< shadowmaster> that's the only one
20090809 22:07:27< Soliton> mordante: going on as MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM produces the assert.
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20090809 22:07:37< Soliton> mordante: when i was all alone it worked though.
20090809 22:07:53< Soliton> mordante: so i guess scrollbar and very long nick.
20090809 22:08:11< shadowmaster> zookeeper: who is supposed to keep http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/TerrainCodesWML up to date?
20090809 22:09:46< mordante> ilor, do you want to discuss things before you go on vacation?
20090809 22:09:59< mordante> Soliton, ok, will test further with more debug code
20090809 22:09:59< ilor> mordante sure I've got a moment now
20090809 22:10:26< CIA-62> crab * r37596 /trunk/src/ai/manager.cpp: fixed issue with having only one formula_ai per 'all human players in case of local game' - now there is one formula_ai per side
20090809 22:10:29< ilor> mordante: generally I expect there to be a bunch of bugs/FRs when I get back so I can get busy ;)
20090809 22:11:14< Crab_> deekay: ^ ' it seems that once it is invoked, it only is "attached" to the one side' - fixed, now there's one command-line formula_ai  per each side. now going for that 'this AI cfg issue'
20090809 22:11:29< deekay> Crab_:cool :)
20090809 22:11:37< mordante> I _hope_ I can fix the most grave bugs next week
20090809 22:12:03< ilor> yeah it'd be great to have new lobby in a releasable state by sunday
20090809 22:12:25< mordante> I hope so too
20090809 22:13:01< mordante> need to have a good idea for the resize scrollbars, I've some ideas but the code got too ugly, so back to the drawing board
20090809 22:14:25< CIA-62> shadowmaster * r37597 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Allow using sound= in [story] [part] nodes.
20090809 22:14:46< Crab_> deekay: basically, "each AI is a composite AI, and each AI contains both cpp and fai engines  (initialized on-demand) . thus, each AI has one formula_ai instance associated with it"
20090809 22:15:08< shadowmaster> "sound= in [story] [part]"? what a silly idea.
20090809 22:15:19< deekay> Crab_: ok
20090809 22:17:04< CIA-62> cornmander * r37598 /website/stats.wesnoth.org/helperlib.py: Added support for multiple wml child nodes of the same name to the simple parser.
20090809 22:18:16< mordante> ilor, I found something interesting in the debug code, the listbox first has 0 items and gets 0 visible items, then it gets more items but the visible count remains 0
20090809 22:18:56< mordante> so need to find a good solution for that, maybe set a minimum size for the listboxes
20090809 22:19:23< shadowmaster> kkless ~/src/wesnoth/changelog
20090809 22:19:29< mordante> the other solution is the layout invalidate call, but I'd rather avoid that
20090809 22:20:06< mordante> but at least I now think I know how to reproduce it, having a lot of players joined and reducing the height
20090809 22:23:12< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: i hope "soon"
20090809 22:23:27< Ivanovic> i wanted to get it out today, but some stuff was still blocking it
20090809 22:23:42< shadowmaster> ah, okay, we are back to the usual plan
20090809 22:23:44< Ivanovic> will have a look at it over the week, maybe next sunday it will be ready
20090809 22:28:09< fendrin> anyone an idea why [variable] name=time_of_day.id [not] equals=first_watch [or] equals=second_watch is always true?
20090809 22:29:47< shadowmaster> fendrin: exact code, please?
20090809 22:31:51< fendrin> shadowmaster: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d7511f562
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20090809 22:32:31< shadowmaster> fendrin: logical comparisons are done at [if] level
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20090809 22:33:43< fendrin> shadowmaster: I don't understand.
20090809 22:33:54< shadowmaster> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d3e3f8546
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20090809 22:34:36< fendrin> shadowmaster: I see. Thank you very much.
20090809 22:35:05< mordante> ilor, nice vacation
20090809 22:35:29< ilor> mordante: yeah, but I might be aroud for a sec tomorrow morning ;P
20090809 22:36:21< mordante> I won't ;-)
20090809 22:36:39< ilor> see you around Thursday then ;)
20090809 22:37:08< mordante> yeah
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20090809 22:38:58< corn> Crab_: ok, I have finished all the code on the backend to parse the new stuff in upload logs, we can begin generating logs now
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20090809 22:39:06< YogiHH> hello
20090809 22:39:13< ilor> hi YogiHH
20090809 22:39:14< mordante> hi YogiHH 
20090809 22:39:17< corn> hi
20090809 22:39:32< Crab_> corn: ok. is all the needed code committed to trunk ?
20090809 22:39:36< YogiHH> did i miss anything important during the last week?
20090809 22:40:00< corn> Crab_: I need to look into what needs to be done to enable logging for MP games
20090809 22:40:02< CIA-62> cornmander * r37599 /website/stats.wesnoth.org/wesstats/controllers/root.py: Added kill_event parsing to the upload_log server. kill_events are added to the KILLMAP table.
20090809 22:40:58< Crab_> just enable it for 'all sides are ai' games having --new-uploads set
20090809 22:41:36< corn> how do I check the first part?
20090809 22:42:54< mordante> night
20090809 22:43:02< corn> Crab_: 'all sides are ai'
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20090809 22:44:02< Crab_> for each team, look at its controller
20090809 22:44:42< Crab_> if    cfg["controller"] == "ai" , then it's ai
20090809 22:46:52< Crab_> deekay: ok, found out the causes of that config problem. 1) the name of the stage is 'side_formulas', not 'move_formulas'. both source and wiki contain correct name, but my example in scenario-formula.cfg has incorrect name   2) there's a small fix that needs to be applied to the fai_engine to call on_create after creating the stages. I'm testing that fix atm.
20090809 22:47:27< YogiHH> Soliton: Within mp lobby, what does it mean if names are displayed bold?
20090809 22:47:37< deekay> Crab_: ah ok, in fact I did copy example
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20090809 22:47:39< ilor> YogiHH: registered users 
20090809 22:47:51< YogiHH> ah, thanks
20090809 22:47:54< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: "By default, the team-colourizer will use the default" :P
20090809 22:48:18< corn> Crab_: ok, will change now
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20090809 22:48:41< Crab_> deekay: no :) you'll fix 1 but you'll get hit by a SIGABRT
20090809 22:48:49< Crab_> deekay:  I'll commit a patch to fix (2) as soon as I verify it
20090809 22:48:51< deekay> hehe
20090809 22:48:53< deekay> ok
20090809 22:49:09< crimson_penguin> btw, is TC used for anything other than... units?
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20090809 22:49:28< crimson_penguin> more specifically, anything bigger than units?
20090809 22:49:41< PK5> village control
20090809 22:49:48< shadowmaster> crimson_penguin: it's also used for flags.
20090809 22:49:57< crimson_penguin> those are probably smaller though
20090809 22:50:25< shadowmaster> yeah, of course.
20090809 22:50:34< shadowmaster> did you find a bug?
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20090809 22:50:59< crimson_penguin> nope, I'm just wondering, because I think it'd be good to be able to display them in the program, but to do that I'd have to know a max size for them
20090809 22:51:08< shadowmaster> the biggest picture I have used with it is the magenta TC palette watch
20090809 22:51:39< shadowmaster> the max size is probably the biggest size allowed by libpng, or the size_t type, whichever is the smallest
20090809 22:51:51< shadowmaster> in bytes, not pixels.
20090809 22:51:55< crimson_penguin> right, but I mean the biggest size artists will actually use
20090809 22:52:05< corn> Crab_: is the multiplayer ai testing done only within play_multiplayer_mode?
20090809 22:52:12< crimson_penguin> it's not gonna crash if you use bigger, it just won't look as good
20090809 22:52:18< Crab_> corn: yes
20090809 22:52:21< shadowmaster> crimson_penguin: maybe 4*72
20090809 22:52:35< corn> ok, becaue I was changing launch_game()
20090809 22:52:43< shadowmaster> I know there's at least one person (doofus-01) abusing the lack of the ancient 72x72 sprite limit
20090809 22:52:46< crimson_penguin> really? 288? that's pretty big
20090809 22:53:45< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: the thing is I wanna show all 9 of them, and the original, at once
20090809 22:54:31< shadowmaster> 3*72 then
20090809 22:54:56< shadowmaster> that should cover units taking more than one hex.
20090809 23:00:34< crimson_penguin> that's still kinda too big
20090809 23:00:52< crimson_penguin> because I have to 4x that for either the width or the height
20090809 23:01:07< crimson_penguin> because you've got your 3x3 grid of 9, but then also the original
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20090809 23:02:30< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: 72*2 would work :)
20090809 23:04:53< CIA-62> crab * r37600 /trunk/ (data/scenario-formula.cfg src/ai/composite/engine_fai.cpp): fixed initialization and naming of side_formulas formula_ai stage, added error reporting of incorrect fai stage names
20090809 23:05:00< CIA-62> crab * r37601 /trunk/data/ai/dev/formula_ai.cfg: added example usage of side_formulas stage to 'Formula AI' multiplayer AI
20090809 23:05:12< Crab_> deekay: ^ problems with 'side_formulas' stage fixed.  modify ai/dev/formula_ai.cfg to your tastes.
20090809 23:05:33< deekay> Crab_: Thanks :)
20090809 23:06:04< corn> Crab_: sorry, compiling is taking a while...
20090809 23:06:31< Crab_> now going for 'formula-ai recruitment inside default ai'
20090809 23:07:06< zookeeper> shadowmaster, no idea.
20090809 23:07:21< Crab_> corn: np. it will take even more time for my P4 (albeit with 2GB memory) which will be used to run tests
20090809 23:07:35< shadowmaster> zookeeper: that's pretty bad.
20090809 23:07:47< shadowmaster> it's horribly outdated.
20090809 23:09:28< zookeeper> shadowmaster, i guess mordante brought it up to date originally during the terrain code change, but no idea if he intended to maintain it too, probably not
20090809 23:09:51< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: there you have an oportunity to prove your worth as wiki "admin"
20090809 23:14:03< Crab_> deekay: what part of 'recruitment-inside-default-ai' do you want to hijack ? is   http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m6fc51ebf  acceptable ?
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20090809 23:18:03< deekay> Crab_: Seems so. I just want it to use recruitment formula like it did instead of defaul AI recruting anything.
20090809 23:18:53< Crab_> this formula can recruit several units ?
20090809 23:19:06< deekay> Yes
20090809 23:19:54< Crab_> deekay: ok. you may have noticed that I'm abusing template specialization to allow ai::aspect's to hold various non-trivial data structures, such as std::vector<attack_analysis> or terrain_filter. So, I intend to add a special aspect named, for example "recruiter" which will hold a object which will have a purpose of 'recruit some units'
20090809 23:20:22< deekay> ok..
20090809 23:21:14< Crab_> deekay: I'll provide two implementations - one will be 'engine cpp' default_ai recruitment, and another will be an 'engine fai' recruitment (copied from old formula_ai code)
20090809 23:22:06< Crab_> this will allow to easily provide both 1) use formula recruitment from within ai_default  2) use default_ai recruitment from within formula_ai  cases
20090809 23:22:35< deekay> Sounds nice. :)
20090809 23:22:44< Crab_> or various stuff such as 'on turns 1,5,6, use formula_ai for recruitment, else use default_ai recruitment'
20090809 23:24:28< Crab_> (I expect that I'll commit that one around tuesday)
20090809 23:25:15< deekay> ok :)
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20090809 23:26:10< Crab_> deekay: also note that I've started work on fai debugger, I'll show a first 'working' version of it  in few days.
20090809 23:26:39< deekay> Crab_: Cool :)
20090809 23:28:18< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: what do you think would be more useful, 2 72*3 (or even *4) boxes, one for the original, one for colored, where you can select which color it is, or, 10 72*2 boxes?
20090809 23:29:04< shadowmaster> the first.
20090809 23:29:10< crimson_penguin> aw
20090809 23:29:14< crimson_penguin> but I already made the second :(
20090809 23:29:46< shadowmaster> um, IMO if you can watch the picture change TC on the same area, you can appreciate better the shading changes caused by the color range function
20090809 23:30:02< shadowmaster> at least, that's what I emulate in Konqueror with the Gwenview plugin
20090809 23:30:25< shadowmaster> (wesnoth-tc picture.png, go to konqueror, preview in gwenview,select next/previous picture, etc.)
20090809 23:30:40< crimson_penguin> http://www.happyspork.com/pics/10_view.png
20090809 23:31:11< shadowmaster> well, I guess that should work too.
20090809 23:31:40< shadowmaster> add more space between the Original image box and the palette label+combobox
20090809 23:31:47< crimson_penguin> I'm not sure which would be easier to implement though, since I'm not sure how to do 10 efficiently
20090809 23:32:17< crimson_penguin> k
20090809 23:32:22 * crimson_penguin was just following the guides
20090809 23:32:36 * shadowmaster is off for "lunch" at 5:32 PM
20090809 23:32:46< crimson_penguin> how often do you think people want to actually save the files?
20090809 23:32:55< crimson_penguin> it should be an option, right?
20090809 23:33:23< shadowmaster> yeah, probably not very often.
20090809 23:33:39< crimson_penguin> hmm
20090809 23:33:51< shadowmaster> e.g. yes, it should be an available option
20090809 23:34:57< crimson_penguin> well if you think the first one would be more useful... I think I'll do it
20090809 23:35:16< crimson_penguin> probably easier to implement, and it'd make a nicer design too probably
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20090809 23:39:40< Crab_> corn: ok, please leave a message in the irc log or commit log,  when it will be 'ok' to update and start test server.  I'll return in ~9h.
20090809 23:39:49< corn> ok
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