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20090804 01:44:15< ancestral> whew
20090804 01:44:26< ancestral> code rebels, release and code undead, then done
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20090804 02:58:51< ancestral> Rebels coded and done
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20090804 03:30:37< ancestral> Alright it's time to name that unit!
20090804 03:30:52< ancestral> I need a little help, and you guys have been very helpful in the past
20090804 03:30:57 * VurtualRuler98 runs in
20090804 03:31:41< ancestral> Skeleton → Deathblade → *Soulblade → *Ruinblade → ???
20090804 03:31:47< VurtualRuler98> uhm
20090804 03:31:57< VurtualRuler98> soulblade is...sorta outa place, but.
20090804 03:32:11< VurtualRuler98> I have no idea.
20090804 03:32:11< ancestral> Go on, I'm open to suggestions
20090804 03:32:15< ancestral> Haha
20090804 03:32:22< VurtualRuler98> "Dark knight"? is that used?
20090804 03:33:14< ancestral> Well there is a death knight in mainline
20090804 03:33:39< ancestral> Though it's fundamentally it's iown unit tree…  (leadership and all)
20090804 03:34:10< ancestral> But maybe I can use a word like a knight
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20090804 03:35:48< VurtualRuler98> Dark Spartan.
20090804 03:35:57< VurtualRuler98> You know it'd be epic.
20090804 03:36:18< ancestral> Haha
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20090804 05:31:48< Aethaeryn> ancestral: Dreadblade? Terrorblade?
20090804 05:31:56< ancestral> Not bad
20090804 05:33:11< Blueblaze> Deathblade, Dreadblade
20090804 05:33:12< Blueblaze> too similar
20090804 05:38:08< ancestral> Yeah :\
20090804 05:39:07< wajimba> did u post the last faction? :)
20090804 05:39:15< ancestral> Not quite
20090804 05:39:23< ancestral> I have a pre-release up on the add-on server however…
20090804 05:39:35< ancestral> Without the undead
20090804 05:40:35< wajimba> so you're looking for undead names now?
20090804 05:42:06< ancestral> Yeah, I need help with the Soulless line, but moreso with the Deathblade line
20090804 05:42:24< ancestral> I have Soulblade and Ruinblade as two possibilities, but I need some more ideas
20090804 05:42:38< wajimba> did you consider my comment about the weaker units only going to lvl4?
20090804 05:42:40< ancestral> (for the Deathblade, who is a level 2)
20090804 05:42:48< ancestral> wajimba: Won't happen
20090804 05:42:54< wajimba> kk
20090804 05:42:56< ancestral> They'll be weaker than other level 5's
20090804 05:43:14< ancestral> The chances of those units making it to level 5 are slim to begin with
20090804 05:44:01< ancestral> The idea is that there might only be one Goblin in history to ever make a level 5 so it's a rare event indeed :D
20090804 05:44:17< Blueblaze> oh
20090804 05:44:20< Blueblaze> we're playing without undead ancestral?
20090804 05:44:27 * Blueblaze didn't even notice
20090804 05:44:31< ancestral> Yes
20090804 05:44:33< ancestral> Not in there yet
20090804 05:44:39< wajimba> YOU GUYS ARE PLAYING?!?
20090804 05:45:17< ancestral> Pre-Release is on the add-on server, minus Undead
20090804 05:45:24< ancestral> :)
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20090804 05:45:32< ancestral> I got impatient
20090804 05:45:44< ancestral> There might be bugs, of course
20090804 05:45:57< Aethaeryn> ancestral: probably incorporate "terror" in the Undead ghost... possibly shadow... names
20090804 05:46:08< Aethaeryn> Nightgaunt -> Nightmare -> Night Terror? :P
20090804 05:46:16< ancestral> Aeth, I do have Terror
20090804 05:46:28< ancestral> Spectre -> Phantom -> Terror
20090804 05:46:35< Aethaeryn> decent
20090804 05:46:41< Aethaeryn> "Nightmare" I think would be a good name
20090804 05:46:42< ancestral> and possibly Draug -> Scourge -> Horror
20090804 05:46:47< Aethaeryn> for a unit
20090804 05:46:53< ancestral> Nightgaunt -> Nightshade -> Nightmare
20090804 05:47:02< Aethaeryn> Horror sounds good, but not very skeleton-like
20090804 05:47:08< Blueblaze> Nightgaunt -> Nightgout -> Nightgonorrhea
20090804 05:47:11< VurtualRuler98> Give it flesh.
20090804 05:47:15< VurtualRuler98> Random bits of flesh.
20090804 05:47:17< ancestral> Haha
20090804 05:47:20< VurtualRuler98> That fall off as it walks.
20090804 05:47:23< Aethaeryn> probably more ghoul -> necrophage -> ghast (tradition, people) -> ??? -> nightmare
20090804 05:47:29< VurtualRuler98> Like an IE download bar
20090804 05:47:42< VurtualRuler98> He walks over to the tile, dripping flesh, then goes back until he gets there.
20090804 05:47:56< Aethaeryn> even soulless lvl 5 would be a nightmare, that decayed mutation
20090804 05:48:19< VurtualRuler98> Unfortunately here, my only suggestion is also a position, so it's probably void.
20090804 05:48:23< Aethaeryn> Not really seeing skeleton-as-nightmare
20090804 05:49:26< Aethaeryn> eh, sleep
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20090804 05:51:42< ancestral> http://imagebin.org/58265
20090804 05:51:45< ancestral> Dang he left
20090804 05:52:31< wajimba> I got it tho
20090804 05:54:21< wajimba> decrepit is a good adjective
20090804 05:54:22< VurtualRuler98> level 5 dark adept branch, necro.
20090804 05:54:31< VurtualRuler98> That's... invoking stupid and hillarious imagery.
20090804 05:55:06< wajimba> it reminds me of the strong bad email where he talks about de- adjectives
20090804 05:55:19< VurtualRuler98> Like, NetHack.
20090804 05:55:28< VurtualRuler98> Hexagonal NetHack, with epic music.
20090804 05:55:54< VurtualRuler98> But then a newt/jackal ambushes the Archaeologist, and it plays a record scratch.
20090804 05:56:30< ancestral> Ignore the yellow level 0's :)
20090804 05:56:40< wajimba> I did
20090804 05:59:09< wajimba> Decrepitblade just doesn't sound right
20090804 05:59:28< wajimba> baneblade!
20090804 05:59:39< VurtualRuler98> Bayblade.
20090804 06:00:09< wajimba> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bane
20090804 06:00:12< wajimba> seems to fit
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20090804 06:05:26< wajimba> abhorrence <--- noun
20090804 06:05:43< VurtualRuler98> Bad smelling?
20090804 06:07:33< wajimba> so, Deathblade->SoulBlade->Ruinblade->Baneblade
20090804 06:08:10< wajimba> and Boneshooter->Banebow->Dread Hunter->Abhorrence
20090804 06:08:54< wajimba> although Baneblade kinda sounds like Banebow, and Abhorrence and Horror are pretty close
20090804 06:09:36< VurtualRuler98> Here's some possible names, just give them strange, nonhumanoid skeletons and bodies of mashed parts.
20090804 06:09:52< VurtualRuler98> "What is this!?" "Who designed this thing!" "Why would anyone want to make that!"
20090804 06:11:50< ancestral> No worries, I'm listening
20090804 06:12:00< wajimba> good
20090804 06:12:05< ancestral> VurtualRuler98: You're missing the premise
20090804 06:12:05< wajimba> what do you think?
20090804 06:12:13< ancestral> But that's okay
20090804 06:12:34< ancestral> wajimba: not sure, will take some time to digest
20090804 06:12:56< wajimba> ancestral: I updated
20090804 06:13:06< ancestral> Okay
20090804 06:13:28< wajimba> I saw the replay with the warg rider fail
20090804 06:13:56< ancestral> I misspelled "Goblin"
20090804 06:14:04< ancestral> it was Golbin
20090804 06:14:09< wajimba> lol
20090804 06:14:25< VurtualRuler98> Sounds like a disney channel star's name gone bad.
20090804 06:14:52< VurtualRuler98> As bad as the difference between your assumed Disney Land perception, and the actual Disney Land.
20090804 06:15:32< ancestral> Heh
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20090804 07:07:01< wajimba> well, I'm out- good games ancestral
20090804 07:07:10< ancestral> Thanks
20090804 07:07:15< wajimba> definitely excited to see this coming together
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20090804 07:37:13< dansan> How do you win the Brotherhood of light RPG secenario?  I have found all 4 of the brothers (including killing two of them =)  and killed Quaxoir.
20090804 07:37:30< dansan> Also, is there any way to "find" Paulo without killing all the elves and breaking the code?
20090804 07:39:33< melinath> steelhive era 0.1 is released on the 1.7 add-on server.
20090804 07:40:02< dansan> Also, what scenarios work well with Bob's RPG era on 1.6.4?
20090804 07:45:34< Blueblaze> Probably any RPG Bob made
20090804 07:45:39< Blueblaze> and probably not much else
20090804 07:46:12< dansan> Well, right now The Fall of Trent & The Labyrinth of champions are both broken on 1.6.4 =(
20090804 07:46:37< dansan> And the Brotherhood of Light isn't compatible, it does it's own character management
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20090804 08:56:56< dansan> zookeeper: ping?
20090804 09:02:04< zookeeper> dansan, yes?
20090804 09:02:09< dansan> Hey there
20090804 09:02:40< dansan> I have a few fixes to post for the brotherhood of light, but there was something I watned to ask you... lol, I can't remember now! =)
20090804 09:02:54< dansan> Oh yea!
20090804 09:03:34< dansan> Well, "swamp" should be "swamp_water" for the Swimming perk, but I was wondering, do you think that swimming should also give a bonus to reef?
20090804 09:03:50< dansan> Reef is usually 2 MPs (instead of 3 for shallow_water)
20090804 09:03:57< zookeeper> hmm, yeah
20090804 09:04:19< dansan> Also, I thought maybe subtracting one from swamp_water for forester might be appropriate (not as good as the swiming bonus)
20090804 09:04:25< dansan> But I thought I would throw that one out there
20090804 09:09:17< dansan> ok, well I posted a patch to the forum so you can review at your leisure
20090804 09:12:04< dansan> oh, also, how do you actually win the scenario?  I found all 4 brothers and killed the bad guy but still didn't win.
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20090804 09:16:56< zookeeper> did you return to maldor?
20090804 09:18:08< dansan> Yes
20090804 09:18:31< dansan> I got Paulo to Maldor and he was happy, got that dialog\
20090804 09:18:35< zookeeper> humm
20090804 09:19:05< dansan> ahh, but the dialog was pretty funny when I killed the other brother in that bad room with the ghosts that keep comin back
20090804 09:19:15< dansan> Let me load that again (I think it's still saved)
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20090804 09:20:20< zookeeper> did you ever get the "We have found the last of our brothers! Let us retrun to Maldor, for our quest is now complete..." line when you found the last one?
20090804 09:20:33 * zookeeper fixes that typo too ;)
20090804 09:20:44< dansan> no
20090804 09:20:52< dansan> =(
20090804 09:21:23< zookeeper> right..
20090804 09:21:48< zookeeper> could you check what's the output of :show_var brothers 
20090804 09:22:38< dansan> 4
20090804 09:23:47< dansan> ok, I have a save that's just about 2 turns away from when I kill, I think it's Ultar in Quaxoir's lair
20090804 09:24:21< zookeeper> if it's 4 then moving to x=48-52 y=48-52 should trigger the end
20090804 09:25:18< dansan> hah! I'm so sorry!
20090804 09:25:32< dansan> The last move I made was to move Paulo to Maldor and that didn't trigger the end event!
20090804 09:25:46< zookeeper> a-ha
20090804 09:26:21< dansan> sowwie =)
20090804 09:26:41< zookeeper> no problem
20090804 09:27:18< dansan> hurray! I emerged victorious! =)
20090804 09:27:28< dansan> Now I can tweak it more =)
20090804 09:27:58< zookeeper> but moving paulos to maldor should still trigger the "We have found the last of our brothers! Let us retrun to Maldor, for our quest is now complete..." bit
20090804 09:28:03< zookeeper> did it not?
20090804 09:28:38< dansan> No, it didn't
20090804 09:28:59< dansan> It triggered the event where Maldor said he was so glad to see him, etc. and that the spark hadn't faded from his eye...
20090804 09:29:42< dansan> And then Paulo said.  "Oh noes! I've been a baaaad boy!!"
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20090804 09:30:11< zookeeper> and you didn't get any XP either? strange.
20090804 09:30:25< dansan> No, I got the xp for that!
20090804 09:30:32< dansan> But it just didn't trigger the "win" event
20090804 09:30:44< zookeeper> i know
20090804 09:30:59< dansan> yea, I had to move somebody one step to trigger that
20090804 09:31:05< zookeeper> so you got the XP and the "You have found one of the four lost brothers." message, but not a "We have found the last of our brothers!" message?
20090804 09:31:11< dansan> correct
20090804 09:31:15< zookeeper> got it
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20090804 09:31:39< zookeeper> oh, duh, i think i know why. silly mistake.
20090804 09:31:47< dansan> maybe you can manually fire the win event if the "found Paulo" event is triggered with an if statement or something?
20090804 09:33:11< zookeeper> no, the problem seems to just have been that the message telling you to go back to maldor with your main character(s) didn't pop up
20090804 09:33:31< zookeeper> the same thing would have happened no matter which brother you'd have found last
20090804 09:34:40< dansan> ahh, cool
20090804 09:34:56< dansan> That will at least tell the player to move their character to win
20090804 09:35:11< zookeeper> i'll work on the other fixes now..
20090804 09:35:30< dansan> Quaxoir's lair is awesomly brutal!
20090804 09:38:36< zookeeper> so did you take the eklin amulet?
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20090804 09:53:09< dansan> oops, sorry I missed your message
20090804 09:53:22< dansan> No, I didn't take the amulet and I actually got Paulo after killing Quaxoir
20090804 09:53:34< dansan> zookeeper, what happens if you take the amulet?
20090804 09:54:45< zookeeper> you just get it for yourself and a normal smallish penalty for breaking the code
20090804 09:55:39< dansan> ahh, so I didn't see the stats on it either.  maybe I should check it out =)
20090804 09:57:12< dansan> Yea, I should have killed the Yetti.  I could have used the money =)
20090804 09:58:41< dansan> Why do you take a penalty for breaking the code when selling tulips?
20090804 10:00:10< dansan> hmm, you can't sell the amulet =(  I was hoping to just see the stats on it, it never showed them to me 
20090804 10:01:44< dansan> Ahh, I see the effect now.  That would have been really useful with all those darn ghosts
20090804 10:03:02< dansan> zookeeper, I'm working on one more patch that will do the same thing to the nexus spell as the one for the bless spell
20090804 10:04:16< zookeeper> no idea about the tulips, it was originally that way and i just haven't changed it
20090804 10:05:07< dansan> yea, gotcha
20090804 10:05:19< dansan> it's just kinda wierd.  I never found anything else to do with them
20090804 10:07:05< zookeeper> maybe there should be something to do with them
20090804 10:08:24< dansan> I thought it said something about use for making wines, but I'm not certain
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20090804 10:33:43< zookeeper> dansan, oh, and if you haven't finished the nexus patch already, don't worry about it, it's a very easy to adapt from bless..
20090804 10:33:54< dansan> ok
20090804 10:34:08< dansan> I'm actually doing that now, but I wanted to change the code so it did the pretty loop instead of the copy & paste WML
20090804 10:34:18< dansan> And this is providing me a chance to play with WML and learn it a bit better
20090804 10:34:44< dansan> sweet! it's working =)
20090804 10:34:48< dansan> I'll post my patch
20090804 10:34:54< zookeeper> sure
20090804 10:35:03< dansan> I also made it so it wont display everybody, just those without full mana
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20090804 10:37:46< zookeeper> hmm, i think i can optimize that loop a bit...
20090804 10:39:21< zookeeper> nah, not worth it i think.
20090804 10:39:51< dansan> lol!
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20090804 10:40:26< dansan> ok, I just posted it.  I don't guess patch files post really well in web forums because lines that are empty will be a single space in the patch and those tend to get dropped
20090804 10:41:06< zookeeper> no problem
20090804 10:41:18< zookeeper> i'll apply a big bunch of all these fixes in a while
20090804 10:41:21< dansan> ok, I'm off to bed now!
20090804 10:41:41< dansan> I'm glad you're maintaining this, it's a very cool scenario =)
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20090804 17:01:31< Woodmouse> LAAAAAAAAAAA! :DDDDDDDDD (had to say that, lol)
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20090804 17:04:26< blarumyrran> Why did you have to say that.
20090804 17:04:36< Woodmouse> because I like saying "LAAAA"
20090804 17:04:38< Woodmouse> xD
20090804 17:04:46< pf2222> it's true, you know.
20090804 17:05:15< blarumyrran> Yes, but why did you have to say that
20090804 17:05:26< pf2222> why not?
20090804 17:05:35< blarumyrran> That is not a real question
20090804 17:05:52< pf2222> yours don't have question marks.
20090804 17:06:08< blarumyrran> The default behavior at any moment of time should be not saying anything
20090804 17:06:16< blarumyrran> Saying something needs a reason, not the opposite
20090804 17:06:41< Woodmouse> -..............-
20090804 17:07:50< pf2222> well then, I would say his reason would be because it is a fun thing to do for him, and maybe he was bored.
20090804 17:08:11< Woodmouse> LOL
20090804 17:08:11< pf2222> I would also say this:
20090804 17:08:13< pf2222> LAAAA!
20090804 17:08:17< pf2222> xD
20090804 17:08:27< zookeeper> laa laalis lolleri paske.
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20090804 17:08:52< blarumyrran> You must be a miserable creature if you say "LAAAAAAAAAAA! :DDDDDDDDD (had to say that, lol)" whenever you are bored
20090804 17:09:29< pf2222> it's fun though
20090804 17:09:34< blarumyrran> Why.
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20090804 17:11:11< pf2222> Who can explain it, who can tell you why?
20090804 17:11:22< blarumyrran> You should, you said it is
20090804 17:12:43 * pf2222 decides to laa somewhere else and wait for woody to escape the internet probmels.
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20090804 17:14:38< pf2222> ..which as soon as I said that he came back.
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