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anyone here who can help? 20090814 03:11:10< Soliton> with your homework? no. :-( 20090814 03:11:39< conor> wuh? 20090814 03:11:50< Shadow_Master> we need to know what you want help with first! 20090814 03:12:38 * conor helps 20090814 03:12:53< Soliton> i refuse to help with homework no matter what the problem is! 20090814 03:14:46< conor> You're no match for my brains, you poor fool. 20090814 03:15:29< Dizzy_Desu> I was waiting for confirmation 20090814 03:15:41< Dizzy_Desu> I'm typing it down on the forums too 20090814 03:16:47< Soliton> you can sue conor now if he does not help you. 20090814 03:16:56< Dizzy_Desu> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26662 20090814 03:17:23< Soliton> ah a boring old bug. 20090814 03:17:26< Shadow_Master> that one is known and will be fixed for the next version 20090814 03:17:33< Dizzy_Desu> okay 20090814 03:17:41< Soliton> mentioned at least twice on the forum. 20090814 03:17:49< Dizzy_Desu> can it run with earlier versions? 20090814 03:17:50< Dizzy_Desu> and yeah? 20090814 03:17:57< Soliton> yeah! 20090814 03:18:03< Shadow_Master> I can remove that topic. 20090814 03:18:08< Dizzy_Desu> alright 20090814 03:18:33< Dizzy_Desu> oh, I did find another bug in a network game 20090814 03:18:40< conor> so does noone remember monkey island insult swordfighting... 20090814 03:18:45-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 03:18:59< Dizzy_Desu> I was playing with a friend over LAN and my leader dissapeared 20090814 03:19:12< Dizzy_Desu> then I lost when I ended my turn 20090814 03:19:29< Dizzy_Desu> but my leader on his side was there, and moved after I ended my turn I guess 20090814 03:21:42< Dizzy_Desu> any ideas? 20090814 03:22:36< Shadow_Master> conor: I remind you that you were going to help :P 20090814 03:22:49< conor> em 20090814 03:23:05< conor> what map was it? 20090814 03:24:05< Jean-Pierre> I do remove monkey island's insult swordfighting 20090814 03:24:05< conor> oh well 20090814 03:24:07< Jean-Pierre> it was great 20090814 03:24:11< conor> guess he doesnt want help 20090814 03:24:11< Jean-Pierre> I am leaving in 5 min thuogh 20090814 03:24:20< conor> I once owned a dog that was smarter than you! 20090814 03:24:29< Dizzy_Desu> hmm? 20090814 03:24:34< Dizzy_Desu> my IRC must be laggy... 20090814 03:24:46< conor> :P 20090814 03:24:52< Dizzy_Desu> not sure, it was a 4P map 20090814 03:24:58< Dizzy_Desu> I don't remember though, let me check 20090814 03:25:38< Jean-Pierre> remove not, remember :-P 20090814 03:25:38< Dizzy_Desu> Clash maybe 20090814 03:25:47< conor> lol 20090814 03:25:50< conor> hmm 20090814 03:26:00< conor> never happened to me before 20090814 03:26:13< Shadow_Master> My brain's faulty memory area tells me that there are some out-of-sync issues with 1.7.x 20090814 03:26:26< conor> ah you are using 1.7 dev? 20090814 03:26:59< Soliton> 1.7.2 as per the forum post. 20090814 03:27:01< Dizzy_Desu> my friend and I play Dark Forcast a lot too 20090814 03:27:09< Dizzy_Desu> but it seems to be broken at the end 20090814 03:27:17-!- Jean-Pierre [n=jean@200.169.26.47] has quit ["Leaving."] 20090814 03:27:21< Dizzy_Desu> when it does the 7 days left thing 20090814 03:27:31< Shadow_Master> note that 1.6 usually doesn't suffer from these bugs 20090814 03:27:41< Dizzy_Desu> and yeah, 1.7.2 20090814 03:27:50< Dizzy_Desu> if I download that, can I still use my save files? 20090814 03:27:51< conor> hmmm there are probably a lot of bugs with the dev version, you should switch to a stable version... like 1.6 20090814 03:27:58< Shadow_Master> Dizzy_Desu: nope 20090814 03:28:21< Shadow_Master> well, actually, with some luck, yes. 20090814 03:30:05< Shadow_Master> Dizzy_Desu: and what do you see broken in Dark Forecast? 20090814 03:31:02< Dizzy_Desu> so I have to replay the campaigns up to that point again? 20090814 03:31:44< Shadow_Master> yeah, or you could wait for 1.7.3 to come out and continue using your current saved games 20090814 03:32:27< Shadow_Master> 1.7.3 should be ready rather soon (maybe this weekend, maybe not, maybe next monday, maybe not,...) 20090814 03:33:08-!- ancestral [n=masterpr@97-116-126-165.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 03:33:20-!- ancestral [n=masterpr@97-116-126-165.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20090814 03:33:30-!- ancestral [n=masterpr@97-116-126-165.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 03:33:40-!- krotop [n=christop@smj33-1-82-233-64-163.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 20090814 03:34:53< Dizzy_Desu> and after all the battles and stuff 20090814 03:34:55-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 03:35:06< Dizzy_Desu> and it does the final battle and puts 7 days left 20090814 03:35:12< Dizzy_Desu> it ends right after that turn 20090814 03:35:24< Dizzy_Desu> I guess because it thinks the 7 days already passed 20090814 03:35:42-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 03:35:58< Dizzy_Desu> so it ends with us losing right there 20090814 03:36:09< Dizzy_Desu> right after the final battle monsters shows up 20090814 03:36:29< Shadow_Master> that sounds like something that should be posted in the forums, preferably following the guideliens in http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25660 20090814 03:36:32< Shadow_Master> *guidelines 20090814 03:36:38< Dizzy_Desu> that's good 20090814 03:39:44-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit ["WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!"] 20090814 03:42:54-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 03:50:26-!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@131.181.100.246] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090814 04:06:20-!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@131.181.100.246] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 04:10:37-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 04:45:03-!- Ivanovic_ 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Any WML wizards around who can tell me how to store all units on the map now? 20090814 14:23:35< fendrin> Elvish_Pillager: Sounds like a bug. 20090814 14:23:44< Elvish_Pillager> hmm 20090814 14:23:54 * Elvish_Pillager does some testing 20090814 14:24:25< Elvish_Pillager> it's possible that there's something else wrong with this code... 20090814 14:25:42< fendrin> I can't imagine another way of getting all units than an empty filter. 20090814 14:25:43< zookeeper> all units on the map? well, x,y=1-999,1-999 obviously is one 20090814 14:26:16< fendrin> zookeeper: sure, but that should be quite performance eating. 20090814 14:26:29< Elvish_Pillager> It shouldn't be 20090814 14:26:32< fendrin> Or maybe not. No idea how filter is implemented. 20090814 14:26:32< zookeeper> huh? 20090814 14:26:40< zookeeper> no, it's not 20090814 14:27:54< Elvish_Pillager> hmm, never mind - it's some other bug in my WML 20090814 14:28:01< Elvish_Pillager> WML that used to work fine, of course :/ 20090814 14:28:02< zookeeper> probably ;) 20090814 14:28:11< zookeeper> what, like 4 years ago? 20090814 14:28:18< zookeeper> is it the top scroller? 20090814 14:28:26-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Connection timed out] 20090814 14:28:27< Elvish_Pillager> no, updating Imperial Rumble 20090814 14:28:36< zookeeper> ok, great. the scroller code was hideous when i peeked at it ;) 20090814 14:29:24< Elvish_Pillager> hahaha wow 20090814 14:29:35 * Elvish_Pillager found the bug, and can't imagine how this code could have been working before 20090814 14:32:43< Elvish_Pillager> whooo boy I crashed wesnoth! 20090814 14:39:27-!- allefant [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090814 14:50:45< Elvish_Pillager> ooh, we can filter by race now, so I can make the "genocide" crit-hit do what it's supposed to 20090814 14:51:04< Elvish_Pillager> hilarious if you also control units of that race? haha 20090814 15:01:14-!- allefant [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 15:04:40-!- Miccoh [n=Miccoh@hoasnet-fe15dd00-43.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 15:13:03-!- Anima|RAV3N [n=Miranda@77-20-141-79-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 15:16:32-!- BenUrban [n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban] has quit ["Power failu"] 20090814 15:22:42-!- apple_ide [n=Eric@124-168-244-203.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 20090814 15:24:45-!- `moebius` [n=moebius@host101-198-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 15:30:57-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 15:33:04-!- Shoozza [i=Shoozza@unaffiliated/shoozza] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 15:33:06-!- fabi [n=fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 15:38:28-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 15:43:07-!- AnMaster [n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 15:48:32-!- fendrin [n=fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 15:57:50-!- Shooree_ [n=shooree@91.148.83.253] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 16:10:00-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@93-80-178-151.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 16:10:56-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 16:12:54-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@93-80-178-151.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20090814 16:13:12-!- Shooree_ [n=shooree@91.148.83.253] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20090814 16:14:22-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 16:21:19-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@95-25-5-38.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 16:31:04-!- Anima|RAV3N [n=Miranda@77-20-141-79-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 16:31:47-!- triplc [n=dizi@118.71.98.99] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 16:32:23< triplc> Hi all. Do I need to open/forward tcp port if I "create" a multiplayer game in wesnoth client? 20090814 16:32:44< triplc> Or, having connection to the server is already enough? 20090814 16:35:16-!- triplc [n=dizi@118.71.98.99] has quit [Client Quit] 20090814 16:35:17-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.211] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 16:46:39-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@95-25-5-38.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 16:51:24-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 16:52:25< [Relic]> Hello :) 20090814 17:10:22-!- lizard_r [n=Miranda@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 17:11:54-!- Shoozza [i=Shoozza@unaffiliated/shoozza] has left #wesnoth ["Verlassend"] 20090814 17:19:36-!- thespaceinvader [n=chatzill@wesnoth/artist/thespaceinvader] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 17:33:55-!- Tomsik [n=Tomsik@bcv96.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 17:35:49-!- lizard_r [n=Miranda@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has quit ["Saurian Augur - I'll heal you by 4 hp if you leave next to me"] 20090814 17:37:41-!- harryBer [n=harryBer@89-178-120-179.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 17:46:30-!- Jean-Pierre [n=jean@200.169.26.47] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 17:48:15-!- AnMaster [n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster] has quit ["ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net"] 20090814 17:55:21-!- AnMaster [n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 17:58:19-!- melinath [n=melinath@pool-72-72-200-231.altnpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 18:09:26-!- Anima|RAV3N [n=Miranda@77-20-141-79-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 18:17:23-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [] 20090814 18:22:41-!- Noyga [n=lame-z@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 18:25:44-!- Turuk [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 18:26:02-!- ABCD_ is now known as ABCD 20090814 18:35:31-!- Turuk_ [n=Turuk@wesnoth/forumsith/turuk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 18:50:39-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 19:06:41-!- Elvish_Pillager [n=eli@71-10-231-36.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 19:14:46-!- Lirion [n=cynric@wikimedia-commons/Lirion] has joined #wesnoth --- Log opened Fri Aug 14 19:27:41 2009 20090814 19:27:53-!- lobby [n=wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 19:27:53-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Wesnoth User Channel | wesnoth.org | http://addons.wesnoth.org | latest stable version: 1.6.4 | latest development version: 1.7.2 | public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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cib0> what's the matter? 20090814 22:01:50< cib0> shadowmaster, yes, as far as im concerned 20090814 22:02:10< shadowmaster> do you plan to make it compatible with the new 1.6 terrain format ? 20090814 22:02:42< cib0> shadowmaster, what has changed? 20090814 22:03:00< shadowmaster> we now can have arbitrary base+overlay combinations 20090814 22:03:05-!- Ivanovic_ [n=nils@dtmd-4db2ace4.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 22:03:16< cib0> ouch 20090814 22:03:37< shadowmaster> (and there are also some new base and overlay terrains, e.g. deciduous forest) 20090814 22:03:58< shadowmaster> (1.7 has even more new terrains)) 20090814 22:04:09< cib0> well, i wouldn't know how to do that with the system that was used 20090814 22:04:28< cib0> even the fact that start positions could be non-keep was problematic 20090814 22:05:16< cib0> a messy fix would be to just ignore the overlay, i guess? 20090814 22:05:46< cib0> hm.. though ive learned some things about HTML since then.. such as, you can actually overlay images in HTML 20090814 22:06:46< cib0> so, if someone provided icons for all the overlays, it might be doable :p 20090814 22:07:20< shadowmaster> they are in mainline probbly 20090814 22:07:34-!- Doppp [n=Doppp@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 22:07:36-!- Ivanovic_ [n=nils@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090814 22:07:37-!- Ivanovic_ontour [n=nils@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 22:07:45< shadowmaster> overlays can also influence the unit movement over hexes, so ignoring them is not a good idea 20090814 22:07:52-!- Ivanovic_ontour [n=nils@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090814 22:08:08< cib0> well, the icons used for the [map] tag are quite simplistic, so using wesnoth's images would look weird i think 20090814 22:09:12< cib0> hm.. maybe wesnoth's maps have become too complex to work with such a simple tool? 20090814 22:10:10< shadowmaster> that was a thought I had when checking WesnothMap.php 20090814 22:10:40< shadowmaster> I personally have no problem with playing the lazy and just discouraging people to use [map] 20090814 22:10:55< shadowmaster> (we already have map "screenshots" from the editor, after all) 20090814 22:11:04< cib0> yes, i know 20090814 22:11:32< shadowmaster> but I am told by other dev that I'm not the forum authority and therefore I should ask the forum authority about it. 20090814 22:11:45< shadowmaster> (even though I have to maintain the fucking code) 20090814 22:12:47< cib0> the only alternative i can think of would be writing a renderer in java or something, but screenshots sound simpler than that 20090814 22:13:14< cib0> er, who is this forum authority? 20090814 22:13:15< shadowmaster> the forum authority agrees with letting [map] rot 20090814 22:14:01< shadowmaster> I think not displayin g in the post editor should suffice for discouraging it susage 20090814 22:14:13< shadowmaster> *not displaying it 20090814 22:14:18< cib0> yeah 20090814 22:15:07< cib0> it's too bad though, was quite useful for displaying large maps, especially for people with slow connections 20090814 22:15:30< cib0> but unless someone agrees to draw fitting representations for all the overlays, i dont see how it could be done 20090814 22:15:33-!- kane77 [n=kane@194.1.130.108] has quit ["Don't follow me"] 20090814 22:15:49< shadowmaster> yeah, maybe we could also compose the base+overlay images as they are required using PHP 20090814 22:16:02< shadowmaster> but that would involve some extra server load I'm afraid of 20090814 22:16:27< cib0> as i said, as far as i know you can render images over another, using CSS i think 20090814 22:16:47< shadowmaster> background_image + ? 20090814 22:16:56< cib0> yes 20090814 22:17:02< cib0> no idea if it works there, though 20090814 22:17:16< cib0> i've just recently begun to delve into webprogramming 20090814 22:20:34-!- noy 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used to enclose the map's actual contents in the foru mposts 20090814 22:38:25< shadowmaster> but we are discouraging its usage because nobody has been able to keep it up to date with the new terrains 20090814 22:40:49-!- Lizard_r [i=593a899d@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 22:42:05-!- allefant [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20090814 22:44:41< wajimba1> oh oh oh- so you dump in the code for the map, or you can reference a map in mainline? 20090814 22:45:26< shadowmaster> I guess the first. I said "actual contents" after all. 20090814 22:46:18< wajimba1> does anyone actually use it anymore to discourage? 20090814 22:47:09< shadowmaster> does it matter? 20090814 22:47:14-!- faryshta [n=faryshta@168.255.251.50] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090814 22:48:09< shadowmaster> it's discouraged already since it's not publicly advertised. 20090814 22:48:21< wajimba1> I just couldn't find any documentation on how to use it 20090814 22:48:36< wajimba1> and hadn't remembered seeing anyone use it lately 20090814 22:50:11< wajimba1> but now I'm curious as to the syntax for how one would actually use it 20090814 22:50:44-!- allefant [n=allefant@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 22:53:25-!- purluno [n=purluno@221.149.27.185] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]"] 20090814 22:55:21-!- shadowmaster_ [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 22:55:39-!- shadowmaster_ [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Client Quit] 20090814 22:56:41-!- wajimba1 [n=Andrew_A@24-158-30-63.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20090814 23:02:20-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [] 20090814 23:05:44-!- Tomsik [n=Tomsik@bcv96.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["Mangara fo a necetens outba mangratas."] 20090814 23:08:49-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 23:16:51-!- Zarel [i=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 23:19:36-!- Lizard_r [i=593a899d@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has quit ["Page closed"] 20090814 23:38:22-!- heinz [n=heinzs@95.89.4.45] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 23:49:05-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit ["WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!"] 20090814 23:51:04-!- wajimba [n=Andrew_A@24-158-30-63.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 23:54:49-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20090814 23:55:24-!- apple_ide [n=Eric@124-168-244-203.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 23:55:40-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090814 23:55:48-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 23:55:52-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20090814 23:56:19-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 23:59:22-!- ShikadiLord [n=1002@190.22.88.158] has joined #wesnoth 20090814 23:59:46-!- ShikadiLord is now known as Guest440 --- Log closed Sat Aug 15 00:00:14 2009