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20090820 00:05:59< noy> Elvish_Pillage2: The policy is there to ensure fairness and consistency among the different language groups that play wesnoth and use the lobby. 
20090820 00:06:40< Elvish_Pillage2> I thought it was there to keep the chat usable? or is this just a different way of viewing the same thing?
20090820 00:06:58< noy> thats what it does
20090820 00:07:26< Elvish_Pillage2> I mean, it's a good policy. it just is slightly disappointing that it's impossible to enforce perfectly, hence people sometimes get confused
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20090820 00:07:37< noy> however when I've asked other language groups to curtail their chat, I get called a racist. 
20090820 00:07:48< Elvish_Pillage2> Heh... :/
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20090820 00:11:54< Elvish_Pillage2> makes me wonder if there's a way to automate it
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20090820 00:14:04< noy> the new mp interface will have a chat lobby
20090820 00:14:23< Elvish_Pillage2> how soon do we get that?
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20090820 00:14:29< Elvish_Pillage2> IIRWIIR, right? ;p
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20090820 00:15:20< shadowmaster> r9     vv0 f0
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20090820 00:16:18< noy> this far
20090820 00:16:20< shadowmaster> crashing internet at the server... crashing internet at home...
20090820 00:16:22< noy> this fall
20090820 00:16:26< shadowmaster> my day can't be worse.
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20090820 00:23:54< Aethaeryn> Blarumyrran: my new map is complete, the WML is being glitchy...
20090820 00:24:46< Aethaeryn> hopefully I can fix it quickly rather than slowly.
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20090820 00:35:29< vjoe> sup
20090820 00:39:42< Soliton> Elvish_Pillage2: try 1.7.3 with --new-widgets.
20090820 00:40:45< vjoe> z0mg
20090820 00:40:51< vjoe> i'm going to see a troll warrior for the first time
20090820 00:40:54< vjoe> !!111one!1
20090820 00:41:15< Soliton> that's a lot of troll warriors.
20090820 00:41:50< vjoe> and my wraith died with 62xp
20090820 00:41:52< vjoe> :((((
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20090820 00:43:03< vjoe> you should spectate this game Soliton 
20090820 00:43:05< vjoe> its being epic
20090820 00:43:36< Soliton> i've nagas to kill.
20090820 00:44:04< vjoe> :\
20090820 00:44:08< vjoe> are you playing online?
20090820 00:44:20< vjoe> btw, do you know sauron? he is the guy on my team
20090820 00:44:26< vjoe> he is pretty good
20090820 00:45:14< Soliton> yes, i do.
20090820 00:45:18< vjoe> wow the troll warrior is epic
20090820 00:45:21< vjoe> and zett'
20090820 00:45:26< vjoe> he is our opponent
20090820 00:45:29< vjoe> his teammate left
20090820 00:46:11< Ken_Oh1> wow, sauron is still around
20090820 00:46:32< vjoe> ?
20090820 00:46:37< vjoe> what do you mean?
20090820 00:47:03< Ken_Oh1> hasn't been on the forums for a while
20090820 00:47:28< Ken_Oh1> actually, heh, his first post since last year was yesterday
20090820 00:49:24< vjoe> wow
20090820 00:49:31< vjoe> his ranger turned into a sharpshooter
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20090820 00:50:46< Aethaeryn> Anyone want to test out the new High Seas map I am working on?
20090820 00:50:58< vjoe> btw Soliton 
20090820 00:51:03< vjoe> when I save the replay
20090820 00:51:11< vjoe> with it save automatically when the game ends?
20090820 00:51:18< vjoe> or do I have to save again then?
20090820 00:52:05< Soliton> if you don't have automatic replay saving on you have to do it manually. preferably when that game ended.
20090820 00:53:36< Ken_Oh1> i do, auth
20090820 00:53:39< Ken_Oh1> aeth
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20090820 00:56:47< Aethaeryn> Ken_Oh1: do you mind if the raiding isn't ready?
20090820 00:56:59< Ken_Oh1> sure
20090820 00:57:02< Aethaeryn> I'm kinda getting impatient because I've had this sitting for about a month, always never quite getting around to it.
20090820 00:57:04< Ken_Oh1> what wesnoth version
20090820 00:57:06< Aethaeryn> I just want to get the worldmap working.
20090820 00:57:20< Aethaeryn> Then once I test it and there's no bugs I can add the raiding and the trading ports.
20090820 00:57:35< Aethaeryn> Ken_Oh1: just finishing up the debugging
20090820 00:57:40< Aethaeryn> 1.6.4
20090820 00:57:43< Ken_Oh1> ok
20090820 00:57:49< Ken_Oh1> yeah, i'll help test out
20090820 00:57:51< Aethaeryn> Will be placing the outside spawns now, then it'll be due for a test for some feedback
20090820 00:57:56< Aethaeryn> it's only 4p, at the request of Bob The Mighty.
20090820 00:58:07< Ken_Oh1> yeah, too many players is too many
20090820 00:58:17< Ken_Oh1> anyway, i'm game, just tell me when
20090820 00:58:22< Aethaeryn> alright, thanks.
20090820 00:58:35< Aethaeryn> Just got to get the outside working... then i'll do the non-raiding/trading game.
20090820 00:58:43< Aethaeryn> maybe 30 min
20090820 00:58:44< Aethaeryn> brb
20090820 00:58:47< Ken_Oh1> k
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20090820 01:15:09< vjoe> 28 turns already
20090820 01:15:11< vjoe> eheh
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20090820 01:22:20< vjoe> its over, we won :D
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20090820 01:45:06< Aethaeryn> Ken_Oh1: almost done the placements. Just need to test them, and do the respawns of the enemy ships
20090820 01:45:28< Ken_Oh1> k
20090820 01:46:45< vjoe> And there's other problem - you'll never persuade devs to use your formula (or any other).
20090820 01:46:48< vjoe> :\
20090820 01:47:09< Ken_Oh1> :\
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20090820 01:50:49< Aethaeryn> :\
20090820 01:51:00< Aethaeryn> damn, ships didn't spawn
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20090820 02:10:06< Aethaeryn> damn, ships didn't spawn
20090820 02:13:55< Aethaeryn> hmm, appears to be a greater bug, not my bug.
20090820 02:14:12< Aethaeryn> I'll have leave it...
20090820 02:14:15< Aethaeryn> *have to leave it
20090820 02:15:09< Ken_Oh1> ok
20090820 02:15:25< Ken_Oh1> looks like i'm just going to have to clean my place up instead
20090820 02:15:44< Aethaeryn> can't play then?
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20090820 02:17:30< Ken_Oh1> oh
20090820 02:17:37< Aethaeryn> That should be the last macro...
20090820 02:17:38< Ken_Oh1> i thought there was something you coudln't fix
20090820 02:17:42< Aethaeryn> nope
20090820 02:17:46< Ken_Oh1> oh ok
20090820 02:17:53< Aethaeryn> there's just no ship spawning until turn 10
20090820 02:18:07< Aethaeryn> nothing really breaking, technically I could have it go at the old style of spawning and even have them at the start
20090820 02:18:11< Aethaeryn> but i want to see how it playtests
20090820 02:18:21< Aethaeryn> everything's working except the raids and the trading posts.
20090820 02:18:41< Aethaeryn> That will take another 2 hours or so of busywork so honestly I just want to playtest it 
20090820 02:19:11< Ken_Oh1> cool
20090820 02:21:06< Aethaeryn> Ken_Oh1: on server
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20090820 04:09:57< paulohsms> hello
20090820 04:13:34< Shadow_Master> hello there, is there anything we can help you with?
20090820 04:14:03< Jean-Pierre> is that a subtle "this is not a chatroom"?
20090820 04:14:26 * Blueblaze checks
20090820 04:14:37< Shadow_Master> Jean-Pierre: nope.
20090820 04:14:46< Jean-Pierre> :-P
20090820 04:14:51< Shadow_Master> but something tells me he maybe looking for help :p
20090820 04:14:52< Jean-Pierre> jk, Shadow_Master
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20090820 04:25:11< maackey> i've a question: is it possible to have a unit advance to another *only* if they have some specially defined trait(s)?
20090820 04:26:40< maackey> or would #wesnoth-dev be a better place for that question?
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20090820 04:30:10< Jean-Pierre> yes, they can, check the wiki for events and filters
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20090820 04:32:36< maackey> aha!, thank you
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20090820 04:34:12< Jean-Pierre> np
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20090820 04:35:12< maackey> wait... what is the filter for traits?
20090820 04:35:31< maackey> i see all sorts of options for abilites and race and other stuff, but not traits
20090820 04:35:37< shadowmaster> you'll have to use variable checks for that.
20090820 04:35:57< shadowmaster> store unit, check the contents of the unit.modifications.trait array, etc.
20090820 04:36:20< maackey> hooray! i'm in way over my head ^^
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20090820 04:36:40< maackey> alright, well i guess i'll try to learn how to do that in wml
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20090820 04:44:04< Jean-Pierre> in the right you will see a list of keynames, trait must be among them
20090820 04:44:48< Jean-Pierre> oh, filters
20090820 05:04:41< Jean-Pierre> Shouldn't Elvish Stuff (Fighter, Archer, Shaman) be rather Elven Stuff?
20090820 05:06:30< shadowmaster> I beelive I once saw that being discussed int he froums back on 2006
20090820 05:06:54< wajimba> No, it should be Elven Stuff-ish. Hence the transitive property of the word "ish" ;)
20090820 05:07:15< keb> dwarven vs dwarvish too
20090820 05:07:30< shadowmaster> reminded me of someone who typed dwarfish instead.
20090820 05:07:47< shadowmaster> I thought to myself "what, a dwarf fish?!" before recognizing the typo
20090820 05:07:50< wajimba> that's a small marine mammal
20090820 05:07:57< shadowmaster> exactly!
20090820 05:08:06< keb> reminds me of GWAR-fish
20090820 05:08:09< Jean-Pierre> hahahaa
20090820 05:08:27< wajimba> GORSH!
20090820 05:08:30< Jean-Pierre> so it really should be Elven and Dwarven?
20090820 05:08:40< Jean-Pierre> is that likely to change any time soon?
20090820 05:08:52< Jean-Pierre> like 1.8?
20090820 05:08:56< shadowmaster> as it doesn't seem to bother our language expert: not
20090820 05:09:06< Jean-Pierre> who is the language expert?
20090820 05:09:16< shadowmaster> Eric S. Raymond
20090820 05:09:26< shadowmaster> a.k.a. esr
20090820 05:09:28< wajimba> well, I think Ancestral went against the grain with his mod- but that's just one addon
20090820 05:09:32< keb> how do those suffixes even translate to french or other languages?
20090820 05:09:52< shadowmaster> keb: good question, switch to one of those translations? :P
20090820 05:10:11< shadowmaster> they haven't ever complained about it so it's probably good.
20090820 05:10:14< keb> perhaps they have similar debates
20090820 05:10:30< shadowmaster> IME the Spanish translation is fine with such strings as "Arquero elfo"
20090820 05:10:45< keb> but perhaps they wonder if there is a question of nuance they are missing 
20090820 05:11:07< keb> when english authors choose -ish vs -en
20090820 05:11:11< Jean-Pierre> yes but in spanish we don't have that Elven/Elvish dichotomy
20090820 05:11:22< shadowmaster> "we" :P
20090820 05:11:28< Jean-Pierre> um, lol
20090820 05:11:34< Jean-Pierre> that came out naturally :-P
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20090820 23:11:00< lupine_85> can I increase font size anyhow?
20090820 23:11:54< fendrin> lupine_85: yes that is possible.
20090820 23:12:14 * lupine_85 listens intently
20090820 23:12:19< fendrin> lupine_85: but only in the develepment version if I am not mistaken.
20090820 23:12:22< lupine_85> :S
20090820 23:12:40< lupine_85> trying to play on my 1920x1080 screen, sat at arms length, is actually painful :D
20090820 23:13:04< lupine_85> ideally, I'd be able to just upscale every raster graphic in there by 0.5
20090820 23:14:07< fendrin> lupine_85: you must edit data/gui/default/macros/_initial.cfg. It's at the end of the file.
20090820 23:17:32< lupine_85> ah, I see it :)
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20090820 23:19:46< fendrin> lupine_85: good luck with it. If you change it too heavily it might not fit in the theme anymore.
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20090820 23:22:30< lupine_85> oh, there's plenty of space
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20090820 23:29:13< fendrin> :-)
20090820 23:30:50< vjoe> hi
20090820 23:38:40< vjoe> eheh
20090820 23:38:47< vjoe> found zett again in the multiplayer
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