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20090821 00:59:01< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.nfshost.com/apt-download.png - notice the remaining rate.
20090821 00:59:08< shadowmaster> *time
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20090821 01:44:35< Aethaeryn> Does anyone know of a script that removes annoyingly
20090821 01:44:42< Aethaeryn> line-wrapped text files for better human
20090821 01:44:46< Aethaeryn> readibility?
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20090821 01:46:13< Aethaeryn> (At least better readibility for those of us who don't have 600x480 resolution.)
20090821 01:47:44< shadowmaster> we didn't need an example
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20090821 02:43:17< Soliton> what are line wrapped text files?
20090821 02:44:09< VurtualRuler98> Their lines... are wrapped?
20090821 02:47:52< Soliton> what does that have to do with the file?
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20090821 02:49:31< nmmachado> help, my add-ons don't open. please.
20090821 02:49:54< Soliton> ok.
20090821 02:51:47< nmmachado> I download...
20090821 02:51:53< nmmachado> and all Ok.
20090821 02:52:18< Soliton> ah alright, excellent.
20090821 02:52:24< nmmachado> I open in the multiplayer room, and nothing.
20090821 02:52:46< nmmachado> the name in the button create don't open.
20090821 02:53:09< nmmachado> I dont choose my adventures.
20090821 02:53:25< Soliton> what name does not what?
20090821 02:53:40< Aethaeryn> Is one of your add-ons broken?
20090821 02:54:17< nmmachado> Tale of a Mage, ...
20090821 02:54:32< nmmachado> BOB'S RPG ...
20090821 02:54:57< nmmachado> I download, this is ok.
20090821 02:55:14< nmmachado> I create new adventure ...
20090821 02:55:38< nmmachado> and nothing, my game don´t open
20090821 02:56:22< nmmachado> The adventure don´t exist.
20090821 02:56:54< Soliton> you create it and then it doesn't exist?
20090821 02:57:32< Soliton> tale of a mage is a campaign, btw. nothing multiplayer.
20090821 02:57:58< nmmachado> no, Map to play, don't exist the game.
20090821 02:59:01< Soliton> yes, it's not a map to play it's a campaign.
20090821 02:59:03< nmmachado> in the window: Create to play.
20090821 02:59:18< Soliton> and i suppose the other addon you mentioned is bob's rpg era?
20090821 02:59:26< nmmachado> MP is Multiplayer, OK?
20090821 02:59:32< Soliton> that's an era not a map.
20090821 03:00:52< nmmachado> What´s MP?
20090821 03:01:36< Soliton> multiplayer
20090821 03:01:38< Aethaeryn> Tale of a Mage is a "Campaign"
20090821 03:01:45< Aethaeryn> Bob's RPG Era is an "MP era" or a multiplayer era
20090821 03:01:53< Aethaeryn> it is not a playable map, it is desgined to be played on a different map
20090821 03:01:58< Aethaeryn> such as Labyrinth of Champions
20090821 03:02:06< nmmachado> and I run in the Multiplayer chat.
20090821 03:02:10< nmmachado> ok?
20090821 03:02:35< Aethaeryn> in the bottom left under the minimap, you'll want to replace Era: "Default" with "Bob's RPG Era" by clicking on Default
20090821 03:04:16< nmmachado> I'm not understand, What's the Window? Create and play?
20090821 03:04:44< Soliton> in the create dialog you can choose what era you want to play with.
20090821 03:05:12< Soliton> Aethaeryn just explained you how to do that.
20090821 03:05:30< Soliton> if you did not understand a word he said this is probably pointless.
20090821 03:07:51< nmmachado> Did Era create new units?
20090821 03:09:09< Soliton> eras often come with new units, yes.
20090821 03:09:43< nmmachado> thanks.
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20090821 03:45:35< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: how'd you flip the necro upside down?
20090821 03:45:46< Elvish_Pillager> ~FL(vertical)
20090821 03:45:58< Aethaeryn> I may have to do something like that for Just For Fun era
20090821 03:46:02< Elvish_Pillager> lol
20090821 03:46:11< Aethaeryn> their leader recruits I mean
20090821 03:46:13< Elvish_Pillager> you can also crop, recolor, scale...
20090821 03:46:17< Elvish_Pillager> oh boy
20090821 03:46:33< Elvish_Pillager> does it require download?
20090821 03:46:57< Aethaeryn> one of the eras
20090821 03:47:02< Aethaeryn> the other three don't
20090821 03:47:26< Elvish_Pillager> (if you want to modify unit graphics, it has to require download)
20090821 03:47:36< Aethaeryn> Yes.
20090821 03:47:46< Elvish_Pillager> (even if it's just procedural modifications)
20090821 03:47:48< Aethaeryn> I realized that, which is why I only want to do an effect, like upside down lieutenant
20090821 03:48:05< Aethaeryn> oh
20090821 03:48:14< Elvish_Pillager> you can't flip the lieutentant without download because you can't change the image of a unit at all
20090821 03:48:18< Elvish_Pillager> it's annoying and undocumented
20090821 03:48:26< Aethaeryn> ooooh
20090821 03:48:34< Aethaeryn> Modern Combat + Era of High Sorcery XD
20090821 03:48:46< Aethaeryn> you would need to mod the map to have leaders be on the battlefield though
20090821 03:48:51< Elvish_Pillager> I don't know modern combat
20090821 03:49:10< Aethaeryn> think Axis and Allies, or a simplified Civilization without non-combat stuff
20090821 03:49:41< Elvish_Pillager> brb
20090821 03:49:51< Aethaeryn> ooooooh
20090821 03:51:34< Elvish_Pillager> ooooooh?
20090821 03:51:47< Aethaeryn> A New Land + EoHS
20090821 03:51:52< Aethaeryn> how the hell did I not think of this before?
20090821 03:51:56< Elvish_Pillager> I don't know A New Land
20090821 03:52:02< Aethaeryn> A New Land is mainline
20090821 03:52:04< Elvish_Pillager> yeah
20090821 03:52:13< Elvish_Pillager> saw some people playing it; it looked slow and complicated
20090821 03:52:18< Elvish_Pillager> (then again so did THS)
20090821 03:52:19< Aethaeryn> it's kinda fun
20090821 03:52:30< Aethaeryn> though EoHS would make it go a lot faster
20090821 03:52:35< Elvish_Pillager> ooh I know what would make wolves worth it
20090821 03:52:46< Aethaeryn> you could slowly mod terrain with a peasant, or you could forest spawn
20090821 03:52:48< Elvish_Pillager> "Nature Level 5: Allows you to cast Regeneration. Allows you to mount Wolves."
20090821 03:53:05< Aethaeryn> mount wolves? O.o
20090821 03:53:06< Elvish_Pillager> hmm, you can fell trees for gold right?
20090821 03:53:11< Aethaeryn> Yes.,
20090821 03:53:18< Aethaeryn> 1g though
20090821 03:53:20< Aethaeryn> so you'll lose out
20090821 03:53:24< Elvish_Pillager> so if you were high enough level
20090821 03:53:27< Elvish_Pillager> you could make trees
20090821 03:53:31< Elvish_Pillager> and earn gold off them
20090821 03:53:43< Aethaeryn> opportunity cost, more money off of farming I think.
20090821 03:53:48< Elvish_Pillager> eh, okay
20090821 03:53:55< Elvish_Pillager> I'll have to try A New Land
20090821 03:53:58< Aethaeryn> chopping down a forest gives 1g
20090821 03:54:03< Aethaeryn> let's try A New Land with Era of High Sorcery
20090821 03:54:08< Elvish_Pillager> lol okay
20090821 03:54:17< Elvish_Pillager> how many players does it need?
20090821 03:54:45< Aethaeryn> 4, but we c ould probably do it with 2
20090821 03:54:47< Elvish_Pillager> okay
20090821 03:54:49< Elvish_Pillager> hosting
20090821 03:54:49< Aethaeryn> oh, one thing though
20090821 03:54:51< Aethaeryn> recruiting spells
20090821 03:55:12< Aethaeryn> the difficulty of ANL is that you have to take time to research in the university new recruits.
20090821 03:55:20< Elvish_Pillager> ah
20090821 03:55:34< Aethaeryn> so you'll have to promise not to choose a recruit path?
20090821 03:55:40< Elvish_Pillager> okay
20090821 03:55:44< Aethaeryn> (though if you do I'll do :P)
20090821 03:55:44< Elvish_Pillager> summons are fine though?
20090821 03:55:50< Aethaeryn> summons are fine because they're weaker
20090821 03:55:52< Aethaeryn> or more niche, anyway
20090821 03:55:57< Aethaeryn> besides, limited gold
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20090821 04:03:16< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: the reason I don't play A New Land too often is because I've beaten it twice with that cheap tactic :P
20090821 04:03:26< Aethaeryn> it's easier with two north and two south though, because the AI likes to swarm one area.
20090821 04:03:37< Elvish_Pillager> how about we try to beat it staying in the center then?
20090821 04:03:46< Aethaeryn> I think we'd need 4p for that
20090821 04:03:54< Elvish_Pillager> even with spells?
20090821 04:03:58< Elvish_Pillager> how many enemies are there?
20090821 04:03:58< Aethaeryn> yes.
20090821 04:04:01< Aethaeryn> four.
20090821 04:04:09< Aethaeryn> and it's quite hard without recruits at the beginning
20090821 04:04:11< Elvish_Pillager> I mean, how many units and of what levels do they send at you
20090821 04:04:12< Aethaeryn> it's peasants fighting goblins/WCs
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20090821 04:04:28< Aethaeryn> then after a while the lvl 1s come, first lvl 1 goblins and soullesses but soon grunts and skeletons
20090821 04:04:29< Elvish_Pillager> hosted again
20090821 04:04:31< Aethaeryn> that kills the n00bs
20090821 04:04:54< Aethaeryn> of course, you could've doubled our gold ;P
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20090821 04:37:22< nmmachado> the world is not perfect.
20090821 04:37:35< Elvish_Pillage2> if they were any good they should win the first scenario
20090821 04:37:38-!- Channel #wesnoth created Sun Nov 26 07:42:43 2006
20090821 04:37:40< Elvish_Pillage2> dileberately stop Konrad
20090821 04:37:40< Aethaeryn> Yes.
20090821 04:37:49< Aethaeryn> The one problem would be the selection of HttT
20090821 04:37:59< Elvish_Pillage2> TRoW maybe?
20090821 04:38:08< Aethaeryn> any other campaign might work better (except unusual like UtBS), but HttT is classic 'noth
20090821 04:38:17< nmmachado> I have a change, and big.
20090821 04:38:23< Aethaeryn> HttT would break because of first scenario, you just camp your leader on a signpost and stall :P
20090821 04:38:33< nmmachado> or I had
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20090821 04:38:43< Jean-Pierre> well, if you make a Player vs. Player campaign, you can make that work
20090821 04:38:51< nmmachado> Im not save the game.
20090821 04:39:04< Aethaeryn> The point isn't to make a player v. player campaign, just a mainline campaign with a human instead of AI opponent.
20090821 04:39:08< Elvish_Pillage2> Aethaeryn: server's back up
20090821 04:39:12< Aethaeryn> The AI player wouldn't recall or anything, they'd just be smarter.
20090821 04:39:22< Jean-Pierre> The only way the "good" players to win would be winning all scenarios, the "evils" would have to win just one, though
20090821 04:39:32< Jean-Pierre> So, the goods should have an advantage
20090821 04:39:46< Jean-Pierre> Hmm, you mean just a single scenario, not a campaign then?
20090821 04:39:54< Elvish_Pillage2> Aethaeryn: should we try that A New Land again now?
20090821 04:39:57< nmmachado> I wait, but play, less players...
20090821 04:40:23< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: Idk, if it's easy to make an MP campaign, this shiney new idea might work...
20090821 04:40:29< nmmachado> I learn the game, the observer learn...
20090821 04:40:59< nmmachado> and in the future I play with all players remotes
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20090821 04:44:06< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: Idk about A New land, it takes a while and that just ate 30 min of the play time.
20090821 04:44:15< Aethaeryn> Maybe tomorrow. Something quicker, maybe.
20090821 04:45:40< maackey> do the forums often go down this time of night?
20090821 04:46:35< maackey> i've gotten an sql error: too many connections like 3 times this week at nighttime :/
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20090821 06:30:53< Valkier> Hi guys!
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20090821 07:08:29< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: I didn't think after all of that the game would end in a victorious message for me. ;)
20090821 07:08:36< Aethaeryn> gg
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20090821 15:35:35< vjoe> hello
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20090821 15:39:35< Ken_Oh> sup
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20090821 15:45:51< Chakravanti> hi
20090821 15:46:02< Chakravanti> i never catch peeps in chat here lol
20090821 15:46:13< shadowmaster> huh
20090821 15:46:34< Chakravanti> Euthanatos93 in Wesnoth, but...I can't double log my freenode nick
20090821 15:46:38< Chakravanti> err
20090821 15:46:41< Chakravanti> dual connect
20090821 15:46:47< Chakravanti> just for wesnoth =/
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20090821 18:06:14< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: omfg.
20090821 18:06:26< Elvish_Pillage2> Which?
20090821 18:06:44< Aethaeryn> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=378323#p378323
20090821 18:06:47< Aethaeryn> I need to see :P
20090821 18:06:52< Elvish_Pillage2> Ah yes :)
20090821 18:06:56< Aethaeryn> replay?
20090821 18:07:13< Elvish_Pillage2> Oh, and one of the compatability things lets you get victory points in THS when you spell-kill an enemy
20090821 18:07:25< Elvish_Pillage2> I'd thought that was impossible, but silene showed me a way to do it
20090821 18:07:38< Aethaeryn> So it was on your end?
20090821 18:07:44< Aethaeryn> Or do I have to patch Wesalwyn?
20090821 18:07:51< Elvish_Pillage2> you don't have to patch it at all
20090821 18:07:53< Aethaeryn> Cool.
20090821 18:08:05< Elvish_Pillage2> explanation: your even triggers on a die event and considers primary_unit and secondary_unit
20090821 18:08:09< Elvish_Pillage2> *event
20090821 18:08:14< Aethaeryn> Yesterday was my birthday, so I didn't want to do any work... So today, provided there's no distractions (I may go new phone shopping today or tomorrow) I'll finish my todo list.
20090821 18:08:17< Elvish_Pillage2> [kill] normally doesn't give a secondary_unit
20090821 18:08:27< Elvish_Pillage2> but there's a workaround with manually firing die events
20090821 18:08:40< Elvish_Pillage2> I now have a sweet unit-killing macro :)
20090821 18:09:01< Elvish_Pillage2> replay? just start an EoHS game, get necro-1 evoc-9, recruit corpses and fireball yourself
20090821 18:09:48< Aethaeryn> (1) fix the exploitable bug of yours (it's harder than it looks but I have some ideas), (2) do the ordinary raiding spots, (3) allow two ships in the fleet
20090821 18:10:12< Aethaeryn> At that point I'll probably do another test, and then do the fancy raiding spots (would require my own macros, etc.), and possibly some raidable enemy ships. :)
20090821 18:10:13< Elvish_Pillage2> I thought you could just increase their shallow water move cost?
20090821 18:10:34< Aethaeryn> eh, it's a little different than it looked.
20090821 18:10:44< Aethaeryn> Macros within macros are never pretty.
20090821 18:12:17< Elvish_Pillage2> actually my macros are beautiful
20090821 18:12:20< Aethaeryn> But assuming there's no trouble with (3) it'll be an awesome playtest, being able to buy two secondary ships.
20090821 18:12:28< Elvish_Pillage2> Wouldn't be surprised if Bob's arent :p
20090821 18:12:45< Aethaeryn> actually, Bob has been cleaning them up with the intention of making them multi-map compatible.
20090821 18:12:52< Aethaeryn> He wants his stuff used on other maps, especially his RPG era.
20090821 18:13:00< Aethaeryn> Pitty my RPG is single player and with a necromancer.
20090821 18:13:37< Aethaeryn> I like the concept of using someone else's fancy era on a map... Prevents one from reinventing the wheel every time.
20090821 18:14:03< Aethaeryn> You get to focus on the special things and making the actual map design fun.
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20090821 18:20:16< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: evoc doesn't get anything for lvl 9?
20090821 18:20:25< Elvish_Pillage2> not currently
20090821 18:20:57< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: wait, I *recruit* corpses instead of summon them?
20090821 18:21:03< Elvish_Pillage2> at level 1, yes
20090821 18:21:17< Aethaeryn> there's other stuff at other levels?
20090821 18:21:30< Elvish_Pillage2> Level 1-3, you recruit corpses
20090821 18:21:38< Elvish_Pillage2> level 4+, you can't recruit them but you can summon them
20090821 18:22:06< Aethaeryn> ah
20090821 18:22:09< Aethaeryn> okay
20090821 18:22:21< Aethaeryn> summoning corspes is one of the big perks of being undead
20090821 18:22:28< Aethaeryn> as you saw with my convenient corpse-shielding walls last game
20090821 18:22:35< Aethaeryn> I would've lost a lot sooner if I couldn't do that.
20090821 18:22:48< Elvish_Pillage2> yeah
20090821 18:23:03< Aethaeryn> actually had two soullesses :
20090821 18:23:05< Aethaeryn> :)
20090821 18:23:41< Aethaeryn> hrmm
20090821 18:23:47< Aethaeryn> my Terminal was screaming errors it seams
20090821 18:23:47< Aethaeryn> 20090821 12:23:47 error engine: failed to auto-store $second_unit at (-1000,-1000)
20090821 18:23:51< Aethaeryn> wesnoth: src/actions.cpp:2589: void apply_shroud_changes(undo_list&, game_display*, const gamemap&, unit_map&, std::vector<team, std::allocator<team> >&, int): Assertion `unit_itor != units.end()' failed.
20090821 18:24:02< Aethaeryn> the first one happened about 20 times
20090821 18:24:04< Elvish_Pillage2> you got that assertion failure too? :(
20090821 18:24:16< Elvish_Pillage2> the first thing has been happening for me, but it doesn't seem to cause any problems
20090821 18:24:40< Aethaeryn> hrmm
20090821 18:25:22< Aethaeryn> Yeah, it crashed it... twice
20090821 18:26:43< Aethaeryn> want me to send you the save?
20090821 18:27:04< Aethaeryn> I think the problem is when you kill the corpses thus increasing fog
20090821 18:27:23< Aethaeryn> just a guess because of "apply_shroud_changes"
20090821 18:27:50< Elvish_Pillage2> Heh. Maybe you should play without fog then :p
20090821 18:30:49< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: unfortunately, most maps default to fog. So most people will play it with fog.
20090821 18:31:16< Elvish_Pillage2> I wonder if I can make EoHS set the default to fog-off
20090821 18:32:07< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: do other things break with fog?
20090821 18:32:16< Elvish_Pillage2> Not sure
20090821 18:32:22< Aethaeryn> here's an idea for a fix.
20090821 18:32:29< Aethaeryn> Clear the fog in the area for a turn.
20090821 18:32:33< Aethaeryn> Maybe that'll fix it.
20090821 18:32:49< Elvish_Pillage2> we don't know exactly what the problem is...
20090821 18:33:19< Elvish_Pillage2> IIRC there was a bug like that, for which it had to do with updating fog at all, not whether there was any fog to actually get updated
20090821 18:35:16< Aethaeryn> but if you want it to be compatable, some maps are just better with shroud/fog :(
20090821 18:35:23< Elvish_Pillage2> you're right...
20090821 18:35:27< Elvish_Pillage2> it's a wesnoth bug though :(
20090821 18:35:32< Elvish_Pillage2> and I don't know a WML workaround
20090821 18:35:35< Aethaeryn> bah
20090821 18:36:02< Aethaeryn> So removing/killing any unit...
20090821 18:37:38< Soliton> (hint: if you want a wesnoth bug fixed, report it.)
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20090821 18:37:51< Elvish_Pillage2> Soliton, if it's what I think it is, it's already been reported
20090821 18:39:38< Soliton> btw, the same for language issues or whatever in the server motd. some vague references about whatever is not correct doesn't help.
20090821 18:40:07< Aethaeryn> If anyone wants the save game, it's easily reproduceable.
20090821 18:40:20< Aethaeryn> All you do is cast a fireball on the middle corpse
20090821 18:40:41< Aethaeryn> actually... hrmm
20090821 18:40:52< Aethaeryn> If I load from a save where they're already arranged, it doesn't crash.
20090821 18:41:05< Aethaeryn> omfg.
20090821 18:41:26< Elvish_Pillage2> Soliton: I thought I had been specific about that. The issue was that saying to "/query adminmsg" didn't make it clear (at least to me) that what to do was "/query adminmsg (message)"
20090821 18:41:28< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: isn't it a tad bit exploitable?
20090821 18:41:45< Aethaeryn> If you had enough gold, you could recruit cheap units (grunts, for instance), and fireball 'em
20090821 18:41:46< Elvish_Pillage2> Aethaeryn: is what exploitable?
20090821 18:41:48< Aethaeryn> And promote.
20090821 18:41:50< Aethaeryn> It gives your leader xp.
20090821 18:41:56< Aethaeryn> For killing your own units.
20090821 18:41:57< Elvish_Pillage2> For XP? heh heh if you want to
20090821 18:42:01< Elvish_Pillage2> not worth it in gold
20090821 18:42:09< Elvish_Pillage2> hence not really exploitable
20090821 18:42:19< Aethaeryn> 70/8 = 8.75...
20090821 18:42:27< Aethaeryn> So...
20090821 18:42:34< Aethaeryn> 9*12=108
20090821 18:42:55< Elvish_Pillage2> at best you'll be buying 4 XP for 6 gold
20090821 18:43:13< Elvish_Pillage2> and that gets you to 70 after, huh, about 100 gold?
20090821 18:43:14< Aethaeryn> You can promote on 9 orcish grunts for 108 gold.
20090821 18:43:32< Elvish_Pillage2> yeah. promotion isn't worth 100 gold (and the spellcasting time)
20090821 18:43:45< Soliton> Elvish_Pillage2: i didn't mean that part.
20090821 18:43:49< Aethaeryn> 6 gold lvl 0 would give you 105 gold to promote
20090821 18:43:59< Aethaeryn> so the grunt is marginally more expensive, but also quicker to get
20090821 18:44:04< Aethaeryn> So I'd say grunt is how you exploit it.
20090821 18:44:24< Elvish_Pillage2> Soliton: what part did you mean? maybe you should have been less vague :/
20090821 18:44:25< Soliton> Elvish_Pillage2: i think people will just misunderstand what /query adminmsg <message> means which is why i left it out.
20090821 18:44:54< Soliton> Elvish_Pillage2: i don't remember is the point.
20090821 18:45:07< Aethaeryn> So...
20090821 18:45:10< Soliton> but it apparently didn't bug you enough so nevermind.
20090821 18:45:18< Elvish_Pillage2> what?
20090821 18:45:21< Aethaeryn> brb
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20090821 18:50:51< Elvish_Pillage2> Aethaeryn: actually ANL is a bunch easier if you have fewer players with more gold, since the research counts for everyone
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20090821 19:12:29< dissociative> what happens when a multiplayer game wasnt registered in the mp replays?
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20090821 19:17:44< Soliton> the RNG kills a kitten.
20090821 19:31:42< Elvish_Pillage2> I am glad that my research progress is at 48/21
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20090821 19:36:22< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillage2: but it's harder if you have fewer players with *same* gold. :P
20090821 19:37:52< Thyrus> Hi, is there any version of "Delfador's Memoirs" playable with version 1.6
20090821 19:38:00< vjoe> hi
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20090821 19:38:22< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: I left you a bunch of messages in #wesnoth-umc-dev
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