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20090914 01:33:04< shadowmaster> huh, today I've not been able to reach x.org and now nongnu.org :/
20090914 01:34:05< Aethaeryn> nongnu.org loads for me
20090914 01:34:13< shadowmaster> I know it's just me/the ISP
20090914 01:34:35< shadowmaster> someone must be having fun with the DNS config.
20090914 01:34:37< Aethaeryn> x.org is also loading
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20090914 07:28:06< ancestral> [lua] doesn't allow file I/O — correct?
20090914 07:46:10< silene> it doesn't
20090914 07:47:35< silene> (except for reading script files)
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20090914 08:50:00< stikonas> Chusslove: please commit 3 Lithuanian maps: http://stikonas.homelinux.org/files/
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20090914 09:21:15< CIA-62> caslav_ilic * r38646 /trunk/ (9 files in 6 dirs): Updated localized images for Lithuanian.
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20090914 09:24:11< stikonas> thanks
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20090914 09:59:23< YogiHH> Hello
20090914 10:00:18< ugasoft> hi :)
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20090914 10:21:22< Ivanovic> moin
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20090914 14:03:33 * Soliton wonders what the point of locking http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=27040 is.
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20090914 14:29:24< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38647 /trunk/po/wesnoth-dm/de.po: updated German translation
20090914 14:30:35< Ivanovic> fendrin, esr: what is the status of the strings in LoW?
20090914 14:31:07< Ivanovic> when will they be ready, or is the prose already done?
20090914 14:31:49< esr> Ivanovic: I'm not aware of any pending rewrite requests; ask fendrin if he has any.
20090914 14:32:17< Ivanovic> esr: i think he asked you to have a look at the prose of the changed scenarios
20090914 14:32:36< Ivanovic> not sure if you have already done so and it is fine (again) or if this is still open or *whatever*
20090914 14:33:01< esr> I also don't know which he considers "changed".
20090914 14:34:38< fendrin> esr: All pending strings are marked as usual TODO ESR
20090914 14:34:53< esr> I'll look today.
20090914 14:35:56< esr> Ivanovic: ShoulI gather you want to call string freeze in the near future?
20090914 14:36:12< esr> s/ShoulI/Should I/
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20090914 15:06:09< Ivanovic> esr: correct
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20090914 15:17:38< Ivanovic> Soliton: around?
20090914 15:17:47< Ivanovic> why is there currently a lock on our svn rep on wesnoth.org?
20090914 15:18:20< Ivanovic> last changed revision is r38628
20090914 15:18:29< Ivanovic> since then it seems to not have gotten any updates
20090914 15:19:20< Soliton> Ivanovic: i've noticed that some time ago that i needed to run svn cleanup. not sure what caused it.
20090914 15:19:50< Ivanovic> current result of svn st: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m4e0ce91a
20090914 15:20:26< Soliton> Ivanovic: ah, i think that was around the time the server locked up so i guess that happened in the middle of an svn up or so.
20090914 15:20:46< Ivanovic> it is intentional that Ranged_Era, Era_of_Magic, Era_of_Myths and PickYourRecruits_Era are in the normal trunk checkout folder?
20090914 15:21:08< Soliton> no, no idea where that comes from.
20090914 15:22:00< Soliton> maybe i messed up some command some time, seems they're pretty old files.
20090914 15:23:05< Soliton> i'll run svn cleanup.
20090914 15:23:50< Ivanovic> okay
20090914 15:24:35< Soliton> hmm, some root owned temp file.. are we updating as root somewhere?
20090914 15:25:15< Ivanovic> i don't think we update as root
20090914 15:25:21< Ivanovic> the update stuff should be wesnoth user
20090914 15:25:52< Soliton> ok, trunk is uptodate again.
20090914 15:26:07< zookeeper> aww, so all those eras didn't go mainline after all?
20090914 15:26:59< Ivanovic> Soliton: .scons-option-cache.bak can be removed, too?
20090914 15:27:06< Ivanovic> -rw-rw-r-- 1 wesnoth src 297 2008-12-11 20:08 .scons-option-cache.bak
20090914 15:27:22< Soliton> probably.
20090914 15:27:47< Soliton> gone.
20090914 15:29:46< Soliton> wesbot: seen elias
20090914 15:29:46< wesbot> Soliton: The person with the nick elias last spoke 20d 16h ago.  13d 20h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-de with the message: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
20090914 15:29:51< Soliton> wesbot: seen allefant
20090914 15:29:52< wesbot> Soliton: Person, who 14d 2h ago used nick allefant, last spoke 20d 16h ago.  13d 20h ago as elias was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-de with the message: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
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20090914 15:50:06< Soliton> elias: any chance to optimise wmlunits? currently i had to disable parsing addons since it seems the memory usage kills our server.
20090914 15:50:25< elias> heh
20090914 15:52:24< elias> i see several ways... but all require some investigation, which I don't think I'll have time for soon
20090914 16:08:22< Soliton> elias: please just ignore that guy.
20090914 16:10:07< elias> heh, I see :)
20090914 16:22:39< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38648 /trunk/po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): updated German translation
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20090914 16:35:05< GeorgeGhoal> Hello. non-functional (music-only, for example) addons do not want to download via GetAddon component of the game
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20090914 16:37:55< CIA-62> zookeeper * r38649 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Added new 4p map "Ruins of Terra-Dwelve".
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20090914 19:33:17< mordante> servus
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20090914 19:41:50< mordante> grzywacz, wasn't bug 14317 already fixed?
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20090914 20:27:07< boucman> hey all
20090914 20:27:31< blarumyrran> Why hello there, boucman!
20090914 20:31:30< grzywacz> wesbot, bug #14317
20090914 20:31:31< wesbot> Bug #14317  Assigned to: None  Status: None  Priority: 5 - Normal
20090914 20:31:31< wesbot> Summary: green leaves for finished campaign dont show up for decent into darkness
20090914 20:31:34< wesbot> Original submission: since the campaign ends with an unwinnable loop, i consid
20090914 20:31:37< wesbot> ered it a feature but others may not =P
20090914 20:31:39< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?14317
20090914 20:31:39< grzywacz> mordante, not that I know of
20090914 20:31:42< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=6699
20090914 20:31:47< CIA-62> fendrin * r38650 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/11_Battle_of_the_book.cfg: LoW 11: Added some more speech and share fog after the meeting with Crelanu.
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20090914 20:35:45< fabi> esr: r38650 adds more TODO.
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20090914 20:40:20< mordante> grzywacz, do you want to look into it?
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20090914 20:48:48< grzywacz> mordante, I intended to, but it's (probably) going to require extending WML ;)
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20090914 20:50:51< mordante> grzywacz, ok, well I assigned the bug to you then, extending WML is fun ;-)
20090914 20:51:08< grzywacz> Woo!
20090914 20:51:10< grzywacz> Ok.
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20090914 21:00:08< CIA-62> jhinrichs * r38651 /trunk/src/multiplayer_connect.cpp: Fixes server exceptions when loading certain mp savegames. Despite all the joy's of pointers: This is what i hate them for. Wholeheartedly!
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20090914 21:00:33< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: wesbot said you wanted me
20090914 21:01:34< YogiHH> can someone please check if wesnoth still compiles? This was a "blind (without compilation)" commit, as i made other changes to the file before, that i didn't want to commit as well.
20090914 21:02:11< YogiHH> be back soon
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20090914 21:05:29< silene> hi
20090914 21:06:17< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: how is wsas going for you?
20090914 21:06:44< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: nearly finished, but the last bits are going to be slow going, cos i'm working full time now
20090914 21:06:45< Ivanovic> that is: kitty told me that she is done and she also sent me a short summary of her work (comparable to the SoC summary stuff)
20090914 21:07:07< thespaceinvader> 3 portraits and 3 units left, though i'm still waiting on base frames for the units to animate
20090914 21:07:07< mordante> hi silene 
20090914 21:07:36< mordante> YogiHH, still compiles
20090914 21:08:02< lizard_r> Hi, which source files should I look for if I want to play with ingame chat?
20090914 21:08:05< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, you've made tons of very good art overall, thanks. :-)
20090914 21:08:30< thespaceinvader> grzywacz: =) thanks are gratefully recieved
20090914 21:08:48< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, good. :) I owe you a cookie should we ever meet. ;p
20090914 21:09:37< grzywacz> (I probably owe cookies to half of this channel already, but I intelligently avoided FOSDEM this year :P)
20090914 21:09:38< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: if you'd like an official summar, I'm happy to provide - i'd be surprised if Jetrel would begrudge me he remaining parts left.  i could probably call WSAS officially complete and just leave those at the top of my to-do list
20090914 21:09:52< thespaceinvader> grzywacz: that just means more next year ;)
20090914 21:10:08< mordante> grzywacz, you should come next year that will thespaceinvader to also visit ;-)
20090914 21:10:29< grzywacz> mordante, I'd like to :)
20090914 21:10:34< thespaceinvader> i'd like to come to fosdem one of these year, but I tend to be super-busy that time of year
20090914 21:10:45< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, it's just one weekend :)
20090914 21:10:52< thespaceinvader> maybe when i'm no longer studying and can take holiday time when i want it
20090914 21:11:10< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: it is basically a weekend trip
20090914 21:11:12< mordante> and it's really nice, would be nice to talk to some of the artists as well
20090914 21:11:23< Ivanovic> (so you arrive some time on friday and leave again on sunday evening)
20090914 21:11:52< thespaceinvader> yeah, I know Ivanovic - this year, I'm going to be travelling out to placements at the weekends
20090914 21:12:06< thespaceinvader> fosdem is usually... march time?
20090914 21:12:07< Ivanovic> ARGH
20090914 21:12:13< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: i know
20090914 21:12:17< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, February/March
20090914 21:12:18< Ivanovic> the image kitty linked is gone, imagebin.ca lost it...
20090914 21:12:29< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: it is basically something like middle of febuary
20090914 21:12:39< thespaceinvader> grzywacz: i'll see what i can do, but i make no guarantees
20090914 21:12:47< thespaceinvader> i;m also horribly poor at present >.<
20090914 21:12:52< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20046&hilit=fosdem
20090914 21:12:54< grzywacz> :-P
20090914 21:12:54< thespaceinvader> masters' degrees do not come cheap
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20090914 21:13:08< grzywacz> They do around here, fortunately.
20090914 21:13:31< thespaceinvader> mm
20090914 21:13:49< blarumyrran> i think only english-speaking countries tax for higher education
20090914 21:13:53< thespaceinvader> i have anbother condition by the way - people have to speak in words I understand, and not talk programmer all the time :P
20090914 21:14:03< thespaceinvader> tax?
20090914 21:14:05< thespaceinvader> fees
20090914 21:14:08< blarumyrran> sure
20090914 21:14:20< thespaceinvader> i think you mean charge - it's not a public institution, therefore it's not a tax
20090914 21:14:27< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, we don't talk programmer, that's what IRC's for
20090914 21:14:29< blarumyrran> >_> details
20090914 21:14:37< thespaceinvader> albeit a subsidised private institution, so some tax goes to it
20090914 21:14:42< CIA-62> mordante * r38652 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/widget.cpp: 
20090914 21:14:42< CIA-62> Deregister a linked widget upon destruction.
20090914 21:14:42< CIA-62> Crab_ noticed odd crashes in some of his new code, which caused by
20090914 21:14:42< CIA-62> accessing the widgets after destruction.
20090914 21:14:46< thespaceinvader> and the course i';m stuying has some NHS funding
20090914 21:14:50< thespaceinvader> it's complicated
20090914 21:15:03< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, biotech?
20090914 21:15:15< thespaceinvader> genetic counselling
20090914 21:15:23< thespaceinvader> my first degree was bioitechnology
20090914 21:15:25< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: uhm, you know, at fosdem it is just some "interesting people get together to talk about stuff"
20090914 21:15:33< thespaceinvader> graduated a coupkle of years ago
20090914 21:15:47< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: yeah, i know
20090914 21:15:50< thespaceinvader> i was joking ;)
20090914 21:15:55< grzywacz> mordante, I'm looking at that last scenario and it actually seems winnable (in WML)
20090914 21:15:56< Ivanovic> and regarding wesnoth it is along the lines of "a horde of wesnoth devs storms one of the hacking rooms and conquers the first row"
20090914 21:16:05< grzywacz> Wooo, that's what we do!
20090914 21:16:06< mordante> oh good then we can talk programming all the time :-P
20090914 21:16:17< thespaceinvader> 6th/7th february next year - i doubt i'll be available
20090914 21:16:21< grzywacz> thespaceinvader should capture the blackboard. :D
20090914 21:16:23< thespaceinvader> but i'll do my best
20090914 21:16:39< YogiHH> lizard_r: I would take game_display::add_chat_message as a starting point. And maybe have a look where it is called.
20090914 21:16:40< Ivanovic> i hope that i got time next fosdem (very likely) and then i hope that i (finally!) got my pandora, so that i can bring it
20090914 21:16:46< grzywacz> Ivanovic, !
20090914 21:16:50< Ivanovic> (and that i can play at the gree restaurant)
20090914 21:16:52< mordante> grzywacz, you can just need to win one time
20090914 21:16:56< thespaceinvader> brussels shoudl eb dead easy to get to, however
20090914 21:17:04< grzywacz> It is.
20090914 21:17:07< lizard_r> thanks
20090914 21:17:07< mordante> Ivanovic, I get a deja vu ;-P
20090914 21:17:11< thespaceinvader> but i'd end up arriving on the saturday, unless i can get a night train
20090914 21:17:19< thespaceinvader> i'd be coming from cardiff on the frday evening
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20090914 21:17:25< grzywacz> Planes, wooo~!
20090914 21:17:25< grzywacz> ;)
20090914 21:17:38< grzywacz> A train to Brussels would be a big no-no for me, as much as I like trains. :P
20090914 21:17:39< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: it is rather easy to get over to brussels
20090914 21:17:45< thespaceinvader> yep
20090914 21:17:57< thespaceinvader> train from st pancras
20090914 21:17:59< Ivanovic> grzywacz: uhm, for you the distance is a little more of a problem than for thespaceinvader
20090914 21:17:59< thespaceinvader> takes about 2 hours
20090914 21:18:06< mordante> Crab_, nice timing, fixed your problem
20090914 21:18:10< thespaceinvader> it's getting to king'scross that's the issue ;)
20090914 21:18:14< grzywacz> Ivanovic, cheap and easy by airplane.
20090914 21:18:21< Ivanovic> jupp
20090914 21:18:25< Crab_> mordante: oh, thanks :)
20090914 21:18:29 * thespaceinvader wonders whether there are planes to brussels from cardiff
20090914 21:18:31< grzywacz> I'll take deekay with me, he has powers that dispel fog :P
20090914 21:18:32< Ivanovic> though i was really suprised how cheap it was for deekay in the end
20090914 21:18:46< Ivanovic> basically something like 20€ to dortmund (both ways)
20090914 21:18:50< grzywacz> Yes.
20090914 21:18:52 * thespaceinvader prefers the trains, however, because they are mildly less bad for the environment
20090914 21:18:58< Crab_> mordante: what was wrong ?
20090914 21:19:04< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, trains for the win! :)
20090914 21:19:16< grzywacz> But Poland is such a backwater when it comes to fast rail service :P
20090914 21:19:28< thespaceinvader> grzywacz: they'd win more if we had some fast trains in this country
20090914 21:19:39< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, I hear railways in the UK are rather bad :p
20090914 21:19:44< thespaceinvader> but we developed our rail system too early, back wehn trains didn't do fast
20090914 21:20:01< Crab_> mordante: ah, I see the commit. thanks!
20090914 21:20:09< thespaceinvader> they're not brilliant - it's a problem with the system having evolved rather than being designed
20090914 21:20:09< grzywacz> I think it has more to do with no gov policies to keep it well maintained.
20090914 21:20:24< thespaceinvader> that's also something of an issue
20090914 21:20:59< Ivanovic> in germany train traffic works rather okay
20090914 21:21:03< grzywacz> Actually, I want to go to France just to ride on a TGV. Or maybe a eurostar Paris-London. Or maybe even start from Frankfurt to experience LGV Est. ;-)
20090914 21:21:06< Ivanovic> the main issue over here are the prices
20090914 21:21:12< Ivanovic> (it is *damn* expensive)
20090914 21:21:22< mordante> Crab_, no problem, the bug was mine ;-)
20090914 21:21:36< Ivanovic> grzywacz: if you go from cologne to brussels you got a tgv
20090914 21:21:37< Ivanovic> ;)
20090914 21:21:52< grzywacz> Ivanovic, I want to try both TGV and ICE 3 :P
20090914 21:22:02< Ivanovic> hehe
20090914 21:22:07< grzywacz> And LGV Est is a must. :-P
20090914 21:22:15< Ivanovic> get a flight to berlin and from there get into the ice to cologne
20090914 21:22:21< mordante> Ivanovic, you've never been in a Dutch train, after that you can't complain about the prices anymore ;-)
20090914 21:22:23< Ivanovic> and there switch over into the tgv
20090914 21:22:28< grzywacz> I can take an overnight train to Berlin from Krakow.
20090914 21:22:29< grzywacz> ;-)
20090914 21:22:40< grzywacz> Sounds like a plan
20090914 21:22:41< grzywacz> :X
20090914 21:23:14 * Ivanovic has taken the ice between hamm (eastern end of the ruhr metropolitan area) to berlin for 3 months while being in the army
20090914 21:23:28< Ivanovic> it is rather nice to just take 3h for 500km
20090914 21:23:36< grzywacz> max speed on that line being..?
20090914 21:23:41< Ivanovic> 300km/h
20090914 21:23:46< grzywacz> LGV Est is 320km/h :<
20090914 21:23:48< grzywacz> :D
20090914 21:24:01< Ivanovic> :)
20090914 21:24:31< Ivanovic> you could also become SoC mentor and travel to the mentor summit, planes are even faster than trains
20090914 21:24:33< Ivanovic> ;)
20090914 21:24:37< grzywacz> But! I could really pay a lot to get on one of those experimental TGV rides. :o
20090914 21:25:00< thespaceinvader> grzywacz: if you're under 25, take advantage of that, and get an inter-rail pass
20090914 21:25:00< grzywacz> I can be a GHOP mentor. Done that before and it's shorter so I can actually commit to it.
20090914 21:25:06< thespaceinvader> do a summer on the trained
20090914 21:25:15< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, I won't be under 25 next summer :P
20090914 21:25:18< thespaceinvader> trains
20090914 21:25:22< thespaceinvader> bah humbug
20090914 21:25:33< Ivanovic> no idea if there is some ghop mentor summit
20090914 21:25:44< grzywacz> Ivanovic, not that I'm aware of.
20090914 21:25:45< thespaceinvader> you can do it if you're over 65, but i doubt that one even more ;)
20090914 21:26:11< grzywacz> thespaceinvader, it will take less time for me to get over 65 than to get under 25 :P
20090914 21:26:41< grzywacz> (with the assumption that I won't die much sooner, which may be overly optimistic)
20090914 21:26:44< Ivanovic> grzywacz: uhm, you got *many* years to invent a machine that will make you younger
20090914 21:26:49< thespaceinvader> lol
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20090914 21:31:20< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: in general it is rather cheap to attend at fosdem
20090914 21:31:38< thespaceinvader> yeah - only accom fees and travel
20090914 21:31:38< Ivanovic> sleeping in the hostel is below 25€ per night (IIRC)
20090914 21:31:48< Ivanovic> travelling is usually below 50€
20090914 21:31:56< thespaceinvader> i've stayed in brussels in the past i recall it being pretty cheap
20090914 21:32:06< Ivanovic> and the restaurant we tend to go to at the evenings is rather cheap, too
20090914 21:32:13< thespaceinvader> cool cool
20090914 21:32:19< Ivanovic> (yes, we have been at the same greek restaurant all the times)
20090914 21:32:49< Ivanovic> i think we were below 15€ per person and evening for some beers and gyros
20090914 21:32:50< grzywacz> brussels is NOT cheap :P
20090914 21:33:10< Ivanovic> grzywacz: for a central european capital and the town center it *is*
20090914 21:33:23< grzywacz> Maybe.
20090914 21:33:40< thespaceinvader> yeah - brussels wasn't the cheapest place we stayed last summer, but neither was it the most expensive
20090914 21:33:57< thespaceinvader> i can't say i thought much of it as a city though
20090914 21:34:01< Ivanovic> sure, if you know exactly where to go to in each town it can be cheaper
20090914 21:34:18< Ivanovic> but hey, where should we have this info from?
20090914 21:34:38< thespaceinvader> yeah
20090914 21:34:41< thespaceinvader> but anyway, brb
20090914 21:34:47< CIA-62> mordante * r38653 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): DON'T COMMIT crab's WIP.
20090914 21:34:55< CIA-62> mordante * r38654 /trunk/ (changelog src/halo.cpp): 
20090914 21:34:55< CIA-62> Avoid an assertion failure if haloes are disabled.
20090914 21:34:55< CIA-62> Moved the assertion after the test whether haloes are enabled, fixes
20090914 21:34:55< CIA-62> bug #14297.
20090914 21:34:58< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: last year we have not really spent too much time in the city
20090914 21:35:01< CIA-62> mordante * r38655 /trunk/changelog: Update changelog.
20090914 21:35:04< mordante> crap, committed the wrong branch :-(
20090914 21:35:14< Ivanovic> at the morning we got into the bus over to the university where SoC takes place
20090914 21:35:23< Ivanovic> we had lunch right there
20090914 21:35:51< Ivanovic> at the evening (something like 6pm) we went over back into the center of the city to go to the greek restaurant
20090914 21:36:07< Ivanovic> there we stayed till some time past 11pm and went over to the hostel
20090914 21:36:20< Ivanovic> yes, not too much sight seeing
20090914 21:37:45< CIA-62> mordante * r38656 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20090914 21:37:45< CIA-62> Revert "DON'T COMMIT crab's WIP."
20090914 21:37:45< CIA-62> This reverts commit 38653.
20090914 21:44:50< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: for us wesnoth people fosdem could in theory be everywhere, the location just makes it easy and affordable for us to attend
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20090914 21:55:07< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: i'll pencil the dates in on my calendar, but i can do no more
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20090914 22:09:00< mordante> who maintains dm?
20090914 22:09:53< Ivanovic> mordante: rough guess: fen
20090914 22:10:00< Ivanovic> s/fen/fendrin
20090914 22:10:09< mordante> fabi, do you maintain dm?
20090914 22:10:10< Ivanovic> so fabi should be able to help you
20090914 22:12:19< fabi> mordante: yes
20090914 22:13:12< mordante> fabi, is there a reason to have 4 oracles? Having 3 syllables and 3 oracles would sound better
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20090914 22:14:28< fabi> mordante: Right that was my thought as well. But esr is the story maintainer.
20090914 22:15:05< Crab_> 4 is the magic number :)
20090914 22:15:20< mordante> nah 3 is a better magic number
20090914 22:15:32< mordante> fabi, did you discuss it with esr?
20090914 22:16:04< esr> No, we don't want to tie the number of Oracles to the number of syllables in Delfador's name.
20090914 22:16:52< esr> Because that means either all mage names have three syllables or they haul out variable numbers of Oracles depending on what the mage's name will be...
20090914 22:17:12< esr> ...and it's not my impression they have that worked out in advance.
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20090914 22:18:09< zookeeper> clearly the oracles just check how many of them happen to be around on that day and then use that many syllables.
20090914 22:18:29< esr> So, yeah, 4 Oracles.  If I needed to develop that scene further, I'd associate them with the four Jungian/alhemical elements.
20090914 22:19:03< esr> (Earth, Air, Fire, Water)
20090914 22:19:37< mordante> esr, in that case can't the 3th oracle be the last one and bless his entire name?
20090914 22:19:51< stikonas> lithuanian has 4 syllabes (and 4 oracles) for delfador and it even nicer than in english
20090914 22:19:56< esr> Um, you mean the 4th?
20090914 22:20:26< mordante> no the 3th the second one that blesses FA
20090914 22:20:30< esr> Now I'm curious. What's the Lithuanian form of "Delfador"?
20090914 22:20:34< stikonas> Delfadoras
20090914 22:20:41< mordante> stikonas, good solution :-)
20090914 22:20:43< esr> Ah. Yes.
20090914 22:20:53< esr> Excellent solution.
20090914 22:21:06< stikonas> Lithuanian language adds -as almost everywhere
20090914 22:21:06< esr> ("ve been to Lithuania.)
20090914 22:21:23< stikonas> esr: I've seen your video in our parlament, but it was of very poor quality
20090914 22:21:25< esr> Er, *I've" been to Lithuania.
20090914 22:22:43< blarumyrran> I know wesnoth is way derivative already, but even that is not a good enough excuse to include the 4 elements in it
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20090914 22:31:10< Soliton> mordante: do you show the git branch you're in at your prompt? that probably helps avoid such mistakes. :-)
20090914 22:31:35< mordante> Soliton, no how can I do that?
20090914 22:32:18< Soliton> mordante: put "$(__git_ps1 ' (%s)')" somewhere in your PS1.
20090914 22:32:48< Soliton> also help while in a rebase or merge etc.
20090914 22:37:15< mordante> cool didn't know about that feature 
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20090914 22:46:24< mordante> I'm off night
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20090914 22:51:02< grzywacz> ugh, testing that last DiD scenario is tedious
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20090914 22:58:27< shadowmaster> I wonder what is in charge of deciding how to distribute my bandwidth usage.
20090914 22:59:13< grzywacz> Darkness.
20090914 22:59:23< stikonas> sometimes in Dark Forecast wrong images is used for the units, e.g. Sea serpent sprite is shown for mudcrawler, is this a known bug
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20090914 23:05:05< shadowmaster> I didn't close the connection.
20090914 23:05:22< shadowmaster> ah, excess lag, reconnect. brr.
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20090914 23:13:57< shadowmaster> B[B[B[B[B/27
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20090914 23:27:56< YogiHH> off to bed
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20090914 23:31:31< Crab_> mordante: managed to trigger: 'wesnoth-debug: src/gui/widgets/grid.cpp:483: virtual void gui2::tgrid::set_size(const gui2::tpoint&, const gui2::tpoint&): Assertion `false' failed.'
20090914 23:33:11< Crab_> and various segfaults, too :)
20090914 23:33:28< boucman> night all
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20090914 23:36:31< matthew_> i've been trying to get wesnoth running on the wii
20090914 23:36:45< Crab_> mordante: here's the backtrace - http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m3491de18
20090914 23:37:17< matthew_> does anybody know how the iphone port got around the no libpango issues?
20090914 23:37:37< grzywacz> How about you ask the guy who ported it?
20090914 23:38:24< matthew_> he's not on irc?
20090914 23:40:35< Crab_> mordante: and the diff: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m52b4ffa
20090914 23:41:28< Soliton> matthew_: no.
20090914 23:41:39< Crab_> mordante: can be reproduced by  wesnoth -t -d  ;  :inspect    ;   set a position in right listbox, change position in left listbox, repeat for some time
20090914 23:47:30< matthew_> ok pm-ing now, but does anybody else have any ideas where his source might be?
20090914 23:55:42< grzywacz> Not yet released probably.
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