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20090915 07:56:53< CIA-62> silene * r38657 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Made it possible to disable some WML action handlers.
20090915 07:56:53< CIA-62> silene * r38658 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Allowed Lua to disable some WML action handlers.
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20090915 09:23:23< YogiHH> hello
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20090915 09:40:13< CIA-62> ai0867 * r38659 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/utils/httt_utils.cfg: Void armor gives 40% resistance against pierce/impact, not 60%
20090915 09:41:47< Ivanovic> moin
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20090915 09:48:08< Ivanovic> YogiHH: so have sapient/you already booked the room?
20090915 09:48:26< Ivanovic> if not, some stuff about this is currently going over the mentor ml
20090915 10:01:13< YogiHH> Ivanovic: No, we haven't booked yet, as we both lack a feasible credit card. I contacted my bank and will get one in about 2 weeks. Do you think that is going to be too late (didn't follow the stuff on the ml yet)?
20090915 10:01:50< Ivanovic> YogiHH: someone just asked on the ML about "what to do if none of us has a credit card"
20090915 10:02:33< Ivanovic> YogiHH: you might answer that thread and state that you don't have one yet either and are interested in the answer (for the case that leslie just answers in private)
20090915 10:03:13< YogiHH> ok
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20090915 10:17:18< YogiHH> Ivanovic: I spoke with a colleague yesterday and he said to get into the states, i will have to get some kind of "Aufenthaltsgenehmigung" at least 24 hours before the flight takes off. And he advised me to get it online at the american embassy. Is that correct?
20090915 10:18:05< Ivanovic> yes, when you booked your flight you should have gotten some message about it
20090915 10:18:33< YogiHH> ok, i should read my mails completely, then ;-)
20090915 10:18:51< Ivanovic> at least i had some message about this last year
20090915 10:36:47< fabi> I have noticed that units sometimes face wrong after movement in trunk.
20090915 10:49:32< zookeeper> me too
20090915 10:49:40< zookeeper> forgot to mention it though :p
20090915 11:01:23< Ivanovic> fabi: i'd say: post a bug report and hope that boucman can have a look at it soon
20090915 11:02:15< fabi> Ivanovic: Sorry, no time right now. I may have time tomorrow.
20090915 11:02:47< Ivanovic> okay
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20090915 11:32:17< Ivanovic> zookeeper: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=384660#p384660
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20090915 11:50:53< zookeeper> Ivanovic, has already been fixed
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20090915 12:17:33< Ivanovic> zookeeper: okay
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20090915 17:23:30< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38660 /trunk/ (377 files in 24 dirs): 
20090915 17:23:30< CIA-62> pot-update
20090915 17:23:30< CIA-62> regenerated doc files
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20090915 18:33:50< CIA-62> elias * r38661 /trunk/data/tools/unit_tree/ (TeamColorizer helpers.py): 
20090915 18:33:50< CIA-62> [wmlunits] Don't start more than one convert process at a time - starting many
20090915 18:33:50< CIA-62> at once will stall CPUs and IO, and if delayed (so there are 100ds or 1000ds of
20090915 18:33:50< CIA-62> processes running at the same time) possibly require massive amounts of memory.
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20090915 19:01:48< mordante> servus
20090915 19:06:17< grzywacz> hi mordante 
20090915 19:06:59< mordante> hi grzywacz 
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20090915 19:50:49< Crab_> mordante: there are still (very similar) crashes, although less often.
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20090915 19:53:54< mordante> Crab_, yes read it in the log, hope to find some time later tonight to look into it
20090915 19:54:01< Crab_> mordante: ok, thanks
20090915 19:54:16< mordante> no problem
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20090915 21:01:47< mordante> Crab_, can you rebase your patch against svn head, it doesn't apply cleanly
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20090915 21:02:05< Crab_> will do so now
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20090915 21:02:34< shadowmaster> mordante: so, how do you deal with TINYGUI in your code?
20090915 21:03:53< mordante> hi shadowmaster 
20090915 21:04:20< mordante> shadowmaster, regarding g.w.o I'm not doing anything for that so best tell Ivanovic 
20090915 21:05:02< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: so, what's up with http://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/?package=allun&order=trans&version=trunk ? there are really no submitted add-ons for trunk?
20090915 21:05:12< mordante> gui2 should be TINYGUI compatible the problem for your usage case is that the definitions of the widgets use macros for the size
20090915 21:05:16 * shadowmaster predicts another redirection
20090915 21:05:39< shadowmaster> mordante: where can I see those?
20090915 21:05:50< mordante> and the engine isn't capable of retrieving those
20090915 21:06:31< mordante> they are defined in data/gui/default/macros/_initial.cfg
20090915 21:06:45< shadowmaster> that reminds me I've been long wondering what's up with the memory usage of integer constants declared in anonymous namespace
20090915 21:06:55< mordante> how do you mean that
20090915 21:07:09< shadowmaster> are they optimized by the compiler so they are used inline like if they were macros, or do they actually use memory like regular vvariables at runtime?
20090915 21:07:54< mordante> depends if you take their address they need to be stored in memory
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20090915 21:08:26< mordante> otherwise it depends on the implementation whether or not they are replaced by the compiler (but a good compiler would do so)
20090915 21:08:51< shadowmaster> also, theoretically, I should be able to fetch those WML macros from the preprocessor map
20090915 21:09:12< mordante> yes but that would be ugly and hacky
20090915 21:09:14< shadowmaster> which is like "OMG ugly hack"
20090915 21:09:17< shadowmaster> yeah, exactly
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20090915 21:09:40< mordante> so maybe the best to use the old gui values
20090915 21:10:00< mordante> and when the story screens get entirely converted to gui2 it can use the macros
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20090915 21:13:51< silene> hi
20090915 21:13:58< mordante> hi silene 
20090915 21:14:23< shadowmaster> 3-days old source code... recompiling is a pain ;(
20090915 21:14:48< mordante> maybe I should change some more headers :-P
20090915 21:16:22< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: no idea how this stuff with the addon server for dev and wescamp does work
20090915 21:16:50< shadowmaster> mordante: is there any bug report associated with this font size issue?
20090915 21:17:14< shadowmaster> (so I can include it in the commit message and changelog entry) (oh, and as I expected, Ivanovic is redirecting me)
20090915 21:18:55< shadowmaster> esr: are you working on https://gna.org/bugs/?14296 ?
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20090915 21:19:11< esr> shadowmaster: Looking...
20090915 21:19:24< mordante> shadowmaster, no didn't file a bug report
20090915 21:19:30< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: of course i am redirecting you
20090915 21:19:51< Ivanovic> somehow this trunk stuff is supposed to work with wescamp though i have no idea how the uploads there and all the likes are supposed to work
20090915 21:20:00< esr> shadowmaster: I didn't know of it.  Assign it to me.
20090915 21:20:02< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: but you haven't told me the redirect target yet...
20090915 21:20:06< shadowmaster> ;)
20090915 21:20:06< Ivanovic> maybe mordante does know this, atm it looks like nothing in wescamp for "trunk" ist available
20090915 21:20:37< shadowmaster> esr: done
20090915 21:20:45< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: no, mordante said he doesn't know.
20090915 21:21:01< Ivanovic> though you could also send torangan a mail and ask him how this is supposed to work
20090915 21:21:03 * shadowmaster . o O (is this an attempt at an infinite redirection loop?)
20090915 21:22:57< loonycyborg> Only two nodes is rather boring redirection loop :(
20090915 21:23:08< mordante> I have several campaigns here for trunk in my wescamp checkout only wonder whether it uses trunk or 1.8
20090915 21:23:21< mordante> (which doesn't seem to exist)
20090915 21:23:51< mordante> shadowmaster, you can try to ask crimson_penguin ;-)
20090915 21:24:06< mordante> loonycyborg, problem solved^ :-P
20090915 21:24:11< shadowmaster> mordante: ask him what?
20090915 21:24:18< crimson_penguin> you can TRY to ask me, but we'll see if you succeed
20090915 21:24:37< mordante> I assume shadowmaster is able to ask a question :-P
20090915 21:24:43< shadowmaster> crimson_penguin: mordante told me to ask you something.
20090915 21:24:52< shadowmaster> I don't know what I am supposed to ask and what for.
20090915 21:25:02< Ivanovic> mordante: i think the trunk folder is still the old 1.5.x days stuff
20090915 21:25:06< crimson_penguin> mordante: looks like he's failing at following your directions
20090915 21:25:10< Ivanovic> i think branches/1.7 would be correct
20090915 21:25:15< crimson_penguin> mordante: some kind of syntax error I think
20090915 21:25:31< Ivanovic> (though there is no data available in there, as if stuff is not uploaded correctly or there is no stuff on the 1.7.x addon server)
20090915 21:25:32< crimson_penguin> mordante: EOF found where question expected?
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20090915 21:26:20< shadowmaster> crimson_penguin: I believe mordante is suggesting you know something about tiny gui
20090915 21:26:36< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: i think this is about g.w.o, not tinygui
20090915 21:26:49< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: since crimson_penguin does maintain that code part
20090915 21:27:02< shadowmaster> again, I wasn't told what I'm looking for
20090915 21:27:04< shadowmaster> :p
20090915 21:27:36< mordante> we were talking about wescamp ;-)
20090915 21:27:56< mordante> I'll have a look
20090915 21:28:15 * crimson_penguin has absolutely nothing to do with tinygui
20090915 21:29:01< mordante> btw crimson_penguin did you hear more about the pango issue?
20090915 21:29:25< crimson_penguin> mordante: no :-/
20090915 21:29:42< crimson_penguin> mordante: I sent a message to the list
20090915 21:30:40< mordante> :-(
20090915 21:30:58< crimson_penguin> and it got forwarded to another list
20090915 21:31:24< CIA-62> shadowmaster * r38662 /trunk/ (changelog src/storyscreen/render.cpp): 
20090915 21:31:24< CIA-62> Fix enormous font sizes with tiny GUI on storyscreens
20090915 21:31:24< CIA-62> (rep. by mordante)
20090915 21:32:26< shadowmaster> if some kind soul would build a tinygui wesnoth for me... :>
20090915 21:33:00< shadowmaster> cookies will be served
20090915 21:33:57< mordante> only the executable?
20090915 21:34:39< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: uhm, why?
20090915 21:34:49< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: you have to run the imagemagick commands anyway
20090915 21:34:52< shadowmaster> to check if 38662 really fixes the issue?
20090915 21:34:56< Ivanovic> and *this* takes most time...
20090915 21:35:25< shadowmaster> I guess I'll have to wait for the next 1.7.x release on Debian experimental then? :(
20090915 21:35:49< mordante> I can compile and check it
20090915 21:36:14< shadowmaster> ah wait, there are no tinygui packages in Debian.
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20090915 21:56:14< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: I've just got a tinygui install. What do you want to be checked?
20090915 21:56:36< shadowmaster> the font size on storyscreens
20090915 21:56:46< shadowmaster> e.g. how does a storyscreen look
20090915 21:57:58< loonycyborg> http://imagebin.org/63994
20090915 21:58:41< shadowmaster> could you go to a bigmap story screen? (e.g. the ones with the big map)
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20090915 22:00:34< loonycyborg> http://imagebin.org/63995 <- this?
20090915 22:00:52< shadowmaster> eh no.
20090915 22:01:03< shadowmaster> the last one of HttT:1 for instance, with the scenario name
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20090915 22:02:10< mordante> shadowmaster, I just uploaded the new 1.7 campaigns to wescamp so I assume the list will show up tomorrow (torangan still has to do his part)
20090915 22:02:32< shadowmaster> um, alright
20090915 22:03:19< loonycyborg> http://imagebin.org/63996
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20090915 22:05:10< shadowmaster> alright, issue fixed \o/
20090915 22:13:49< CIA-62> elias * r38663 /trunk/data/tools/wmlunits: [wmlunits] Reset a reference early to keep less objects referenced and enable (manual) GC. Should keep memory footprint below 500MB now for the full WML tree of all addons on the 1.6 server.
20090915 22:30:31< loonycyborg> http://imagebin.org/63997 <- is the gamemap supposed to look like this with tinygui?
20090915 22:31:54< Ivanovic> the trees are lacking and the tarrain stuff alink added sucks
20090915 22:32:00< mordante> no seems to overlays are broken (again)
20090915 22:32:03< Ivanovic> right, and the top bar is slightly off
20090915 22:33:24< allefant> is someone is working on a 320x480 pixel GUI btw?
20090915 22:33:35< Ivanovic> no
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20090915 22:34:06< mordante> nope also no idea how many users it has
20090915 22:34:07< allefant> would be nice playing Wesnoth on my ipod... it would have more than enough CPU power and memory
20090915 22:34:11< Ivanovic> what i might be looking at some time in november (if my pandora finally arrives then) is 800x480
20090915 22:34:15< allefant> but only 320x480 pixels
20090915 22:35:56< silene> loonycyborg: the picture looks really strange; are all the images installed? (that is, no error messages in the log?)
20090915 22:37:30< zookeeper> funny that the castle draws ok but villages and forests do not.
20090915 22:38:22< silene> yes, that's why i wonder if some files didn't get lost in the process
20090915 22:39:09< zookeeper> but as mordante said, probably just something about overlay terrains in general
20090915 22:39:52< mordante> IIRC the overlays have been broken more than once for tiny-gui
20090915 22:40:13< mordante> but it seems the feature is not used a lot so no feedback about its status as well
20090915 22:46:40< mordante> Crab_, did I miss your rebased patch or haven't you found time for it yet
20090915 22:47:03< mordante> (not that I'll work on it today, but would be nice to have tomorrow)
20090915 22:47:21< Crab_> (10:20:21 PM) Crab_: mordante: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m7b43a5c7
20090915 22:48:38< loonycyborg> silene: It said something about creating empty images.
20090915 22:49:36< mordante> Crab_, that message didn't make it to my system, nor to the log (ain't irc fun ;-) )
20090915 22:49:47< Crab_> :)
20090915 22:50:19< Crab_> yes
20090915 22:50:21< mordante> I didn't have time, otherwise I would have asked before
20090915 22:50:29< Crab_> mordante: all ok, no hurry
20090915 22:51:30< mordante> this one applies better, hope to have time tomorrow
20090915 22:51:39< Crab_> thanks
20090915 22:51:56< mordante> well I'd like to fix this issue this week, hope to work on the resize issues this weekend
20090915 22:52:12< mordante> that's something that needs to be done and needs a bit of time to work on
20090915 22:52:35< Crab_> well, the more different people try to use gui2, the more bugs are spotted (since everyone abuses c++ in a different way)
20090915 22:53:12< mordante> indeed
20090915 22:53:28< mordante> and I wouldn't be surprised it's another bug in my part of the code
20090915 22:53:51< Crab_> it looks very similar to the previous one
20090915 22:54:11< Crab_> and it manifests only if I select something from 2nd listbox when changing value in 1st
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20090915 22:57:01< mordante> I can reproduce it, will debug it later this week using valgrind
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20090915 22:57:44< mordante> I'm off now, night
20090915 22:57:51< Crab_> night
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20090915 23:06:27< loonycyborg> silene: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m22601c58 <- I've got this on stdout.
20090915 23:06:43< loonycyborg> with tinygui that is.
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20090915 23:11:07< loonycyborg> And the output with --log-debug=filesystem says that it finds forest images.
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20090915 23:20:17< silene> loonycyborg: have you got the first message only once? or lots of times?
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20090915 23:23:18< loonycyborg> silene: In that particular run only twice.
20090915 23:24:17< silene> so it's probably unrelated; you seem to be missing more than two images
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20090915 23:54:48< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: I believe you were looking for kitty's link to the WSAS portrait?
20090915 23:54:49< shadowmaster> *s
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