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20090928 00:52:17< Shadow_Master> velensk tends to be rather amusing: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=387009#p387009
20090928 00:52:36< Shadow_Master> look at the kind of posts he is replying to.
20090928 00:55:07< Shadow_Master> would it be too evil if I edit the spambot's post to remove the links, and then split the three posts to Off-Topic with some snarky comment?
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20090928 01:00:09< gtsteel> I see two from the spambot and only one other
20090928 01:00:42< Shadow_Master> gtsteel: yeah, that's the idea.
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20090928 01:00:48< Zarel> That's what I usually do on my forums, when someone posts an amusing reply to a spam post.
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20090928 01:01:47< Shadow_Master> this one was just too amusing to let it disappear in /dev/null. I couldn't help it ^^
20090928 01:05:10< gtsteel> Those spabbpts come up with some prety strange posts, sometimes they're great set-up lines :-)
20090928 01:05:49< gtsteel> s/spabbpts/spambots
20090928 01:06:14 * gtsteel is clumsy
20090928 01:07:21< Shadow_Master> arfg.
20090928 01:07:40< Shadow_Master> I was trying to reproduce http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27258 and wesnoth crashed right on my face before even attempting to connect to a server
20090928 01:08:00< Shadow_Master> with a nasty glibc message :/
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20090928 04:56:23-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string/feature freeze active! | 1.7.6 planned once bug #14381 is fixed | 92 bugs, 242 feature requests, 9 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20090928 09:53:27< Ivanovic> moin
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20090928 10:33:25< mordocai> I am taking a look at the easycoding task to relocate config_value_translator and variant_value_translator to a new file. (http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/EasyCoding#Relocate_code). I added the new file, but while svn diff will show the changes made to existing files, it won't show new files. What is the patch submission procedure for patches that add a new file?(I've already added the file to the proper build lists)
20090928 10:45:27< mordocai> nevermind, i posted the .patch file and the .hpp file, and made a forum post.
20090928 10:51:31< Ivanovic> mordocai: patches should go to patches.wesnoth.org
20090928 10:51:43< Ivanovic> mordocai: that is: new files are added using "svn add filename"
20090928 10:51:55< Ivanovic> and: don't forget to add an entry in about.cfg for yourself
20090928 10:52:55< Ivanovic> that is: i have *no* idea how soon your patch can be applied because just yesterday we started the feature freeze preparing for 1.8 and since this does not sound like a "real" bugfix but some cleanup work it is likely that applying the patch has to wait till 1.8 is out
20090928 10:53:14< Ivanovic> (but at patches.wesnoth.org it will *not* be forgotten)
20090928 10:56:23-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string/feature freeze active! | 1.7.6 planned once bug #14381 is fixed | 92 bugs, 242 feature requests, 10 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20090928 10:57:52< mordocai> Ivanovic: Okay, thank you. I had already added the patch to patches.wesnoth.org... i'm going to upload an updated patch file now that i know to use svn add
20090928 10:58:04< Ivanovic> okay
20090928 10:58:40< Ivanovic> that is: it is likely that boucman might have a look at it "soon" and give you comments on how to improve things (while also stating that it will have to wait a little due to the string freeze)
20090928 10:59:09< mordocai> Yeah, that's fine. I'm not in a hurry.
20090928 10:59:15< Ivanovic> though the patch is ai related, then maybe crab_ will have a look
20090928 11:01:22< mordocai> My main issue is i've never worked on anything but solo projects... so i've got to learn how to work with a group. Plus, i'm not very experienced even at solo programming.
20090928 11:01:47< Ivanovic> doing something is the best way to learn
20090928 11:02:06< Ivanovic> and hanging around in here might also help since this way you can directly talk to the one looking over your patch(es)
20090928 11:03:57< mordocai> Okay, if I go afk or asleep while on here should i change my nick to something else?
20090928 11:04:06< Rhonda> No
20090928 11:04:12< Rhonda> Just use /away
20090928 11:04:35< mordocai> Okay, will do.
20090928 11:10:02< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38884 /branches/1.6/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-tutorial/ru.po): updated Russian translation
20090928 11:10:09< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38885 /trunk/ (23 files in 22 dirs): updated Russian translation
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20090928 12:28:20< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38886 /trunk/po/wesnoth-dm/de.po: updated German translation
20090928 12:28:49< Ivanovic> Crab_: please have a look at the logs and the patch by mordocai, this might be in your area
20090928 12:29:01< Crab_> ok
20090928 12:29:16< Ivanovic> (that is: if it is a new feature it will have to wait for 1.8 before it can be commited, but at least the patch can already be reviewed)
20090928 12:31:03< Crab_> Ivanovic: well, that particular easycoding task is 'very easy coding', to get people started. so, I guess there'll be no problems (apart from buildsystem modifications). I'll take a look, then.
20090928 12:37:57< loonycyborg> Did he really added a header to buildsystems?
20090928 12:38:27< Crab_> loonycyborg: he messed it up, yes. I'm writing a comment about this in a patch
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20090928 12:56:54< Crab_> Ivanovic: ok, left some comments at the patch page and the forum post.
20090928 12:57:02< Ivanovic> ok
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20090928 14:49:13< ilor> mordante, Ivanovic: do we want to enable new lobby by default for 1.7.6 to give it more exposure, and maybe add a switch to go back to the old lobby in case of problems?
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20090928 15:00:12< Ivanovic> ilor: is the crash already fixed?
20090928 15:00:25< ilor> ah. right. that. 
20090928 15:00:26< Ivanovic> if the resize crash is not fixed: don't enable by default
20090928 15:00:56< Ivanovic> (beside this: an option is bad, since you would need a new string for it and the freeze *is* active already...)
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20090928 15:01:28< ilor> no, not fixed, so nevermind
20090928 15:02:11< ilor> Ivanovic: not so sure about the string, the --help message is not translated anyway
20090928 15:37:56< Ivanovic> yes, --help messages are not meant to be translated
20090928 15:38:09< Ivanovic> so making it some --old-widgets (undocumented!) would work
20090928 15:38:28< Ivanovic> (IIRC the --new-widgets switch is not documented in the manpages)
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20090928 16:56:23-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string/feature freeze active! | 1.7.6 planned once bug #14381 is fixed | 92 bugs, 241 feature requests, 10 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20090928 18:07:36< Ivanovic> AI0867, Chusslove, crimson_penguin, dfranke, elias, esr, ilor, loonycyborg, Rhonda, Shadow_Master, Soliton, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: ready for 1.7.6?
20090928 18:07:52< crimson_penguin> I suppose so
20090928 18:08:47 * crimson_penguin may have a chance of beating loonycyborg this time - faster intertubes this time
20090928 18:14:43< Nayela> Knowing my luck, you guys will release the next version just as I finish my patchy-workaround thing >.<
20090928 18:16:12< Nayela> Which Ivanovic might know what is about :)
20090928 18:17:44< AI0867> Ivanovic: ready
20090928 18:17:46< CIA-62> soliton * r38887 /branches/1.6/data/tools/unit_tree/helpers.py: 
20090928 18:17:46< CIA-62> only check for the terrain string
20090928 18:17:46< CIA-62> fixes bad conflict resolution on previous commit
20090928 18:20:51< Ivanovic> Nayela: new features ain't allowed anyway
20090928 18:21:00< Ivanovic> since we are in feature freeze since yesterday
20090928 18:21:11< Ivanovic> in fact i am releasing right *now*
20090928 18:21:48< Nayela> Ivanovic, that's fine. The patch I am making is only for myself anyway really >.<
20090928 18:22:30 * Nayela hasn't programmed C++ or SDL before
20090928 18:22:30< Nayela> :P
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20090928 18:31:02< Nayela> Is it okay for me to ask programming questions here?
20090928 18:31:22< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38888 /trunk/ (76 files in 27 dirs): 
20090928 18:31:22< CIA-62> pot-update (preparing for 1.7.6, no new/changed strings)
20090928 18:31:22< CIA-62> regenerated doc files
20090928 18:32:55< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38889 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): bump version to 1.7.6
20090928 18:33:21-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.7.6, using r38889 | string/feature freeze active! | 92 bugs, 241 feature requests, 10 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20090928 18:36:33< loonycyborg> Nayela: Of course! If not for programming questions, this channel would be almost completely silent :P
20090928 18:38:16< Nayela> loonycyborg, okies, thank you. Just wasn't sure if -I- was allowed because I'm not working on the latest version of Wesnoth
20090928 18:38:23< Nayela> I'm just trying to workaround an issue I have
20090928 18:44:54< Nayela> Which isn't going well so far..
20090928 18:46:14< Ivanovic> wow, upload to wesnoth.org is *damn* slow
20090928 18:46:28< Ivanovic> somehow i just get ~40kb/s
20090928 18:46:57< Nayela> That is slow to you Ivanovic?
20090928 18:47:09< Ivanovic> Nayela: normally i have 110kb/s upstream
20090928 18:47:10 * Nayela stealthily trades Ivanovic's connect with her own
20090928 18:47:32< Nayela> s/(connect)/${1}ion/;
20090928 18:47:49 * crimson_penguin builds
20090928 18:50:37< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: it is not tagged yet because i don't know if eg all campaigns start and all the likes
20090928 18:53:13 * loonycyborg never starts building until the tag is made.
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20090928 18:54:14< crimson_penguin> worst that can happen is I have to rebuild, right? ;)
20090928 18:54:35< crimson_penguin> plus, this way I can test too
20090928 18:55:03< Ivanovic> mordante: when starting AOI in german, the 2nd message from "Lomarfel" somehow has a scrollbar below it and an "okay" button
20090928 18:55:17< Ivanovic> is this the engines fault or is it a problem in the scenario?
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20090928 18:59:10< crimson_penguin> we'll see what kinda upload speed I get from here
20090928 18:59:14< crimson_penguin> normally mine is 20K/s
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20090928 18:59:51< grzywacz> hi
20090928 19:00:11< Blarumyrran> Why hello there
20090928 19:00:59< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: I'm not getting a scrollbar there.
20090928 19:01:10< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: in german in 1024x768?
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20090928 19:01:51< loonycyborg> I've set it to german, but my screen is somewhat wider than 1024..
20090928 19:05:31< loonycyborg> I'm getting a scrollbar at 1024
20090928 19:06:06< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38890 /tags/1.7.6/: tagged 1.7.6, using r38889
20090928 19:06:11< loonycyborg> Probably it's indended to make text scrollable if there's to much of it..
20090928 19:06:12-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.7.6, announcing soon | string/feature freeze active! | 92 bugs, 241 feature requests, 10 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20090928 19:06:24< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: probably
20090928 19:06:29< ilor> hi mordante
20090928 19:06:33< mordante> servus
20090928 19:06:39< mordante> hi ilor 
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20090928 19:07:27< Nayela> Heyas mordante 
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20090928 19:07:34< mordante> hi Nayela 
20090928 19:07:52< mordante> Nayela,  how is your wesnoth hacking going?
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20090928 19:08:28< Nayela> mordante, not well :( I have gotten the "frame" of sending a button down and button up event but it seems to have no effect and I am not sure why
20090928 19:08:48< CIA-62> ivanovic * r38891 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): post release version bump to 1.7.6+svn
20090928 19:09:13< mordante> Nayela, sounds odd, I send events all the time without trouble
20090928 19:09:28< Nayela> And I'm sure since adding a SDL_AddTimer my compile time is now a lot longer ( it's 12 minutes now )
20090928 19:09:48< mordante> Nayela, heard of ccache?
20090928 19:09:59< Nayela> mordante, no, what is that?
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20090928 19:11:26< crimson_penguin> ah, I'm gonna have to get gettext working again...
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20090928 19:11:49< mordante> not that including adding SDL_AddTimer should increase the time that much
20090928 19:12:26< mordante> ccache caches compile requests and if needs to recompile the same it doesn't compile but returns a cache item instead
20090928 19:12:37< Nayela> mordante, I have a feeling that the generated events I'm making aren't correct
20090928 19:12:46< mordante> http://ccache.samba.org/
20090928 19:13:00< mordante> Nayela, feel free to paste your diff somewhere
20090928 19:13:56< crimson_penguin> "The following 61 additional packages will be installed:"... ouch
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20090928 19:15:19< boucman> hey all
20090928 19:15:25< mordante> hi boucman 
20090928 19:15:29< Nayela> Heyas boucman 
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20090928 19:19:26< mordante> ilor, still working on the resize crash, but of course it depends on the new event handling...
20090928 19:22:34< loonycyborgw32> mordante: Are scenario messages currently supposed to add scrollbars in some cases?
20090928 19:22:40< mordante> Ivanovic, the AoI scrollbar is a known resize glitch which triggers in some cases
20090928 19:22:49< mordante> loonycyborgw32, ^
20090928 19:22:54< Ivanovic> mordante: okay
20090928 19:24:57< mordante> and if there's a scrollbar there needs to be a button since click dismiss no longer works
20090928 19:25:46< mordante> afk to hunt some food
20090928 19:25:55< loonycyborgw32> There is a button.
20090928 19:33:09< Rhonda> Ivanovic: No, not ready? :P
20090928 19:33:22< Ivanovic> Rhonda: still uploading
20090928 19:33:37< Ivanovic> don't get much speed from wesnoth.org today
20090928 19:33:41< Rhonda> No, I mean, _I_ am not ready.
20090928 19:33:50< Ivanovic> ahhhh
20090928 19:35:18< crimson_penguin> man, why does gettext take so long to compile?
20090928 19:35:37< crimson_penguin> OH, nevermind
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20090928 19:43:08< crimson_penguin> gahh, why is gettext trying to compile in 64-bit?
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20090928 19:45:42< Nayela> mordante, thank you for telling me about ccache, it has really sped that part up :)
20090928 19:46:19< crimson_penguin> what's the deal with --host and --build? what sort of value would I give them? (in a configure script)
20090928 19:46:29< Nayela> Do you also know a way of speeding up the 'make install'?
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20090928 19:49:10< Ivanovic> wow, 50% of the upload to wesnoth.org are done...
20090928 19:49:45< Ivanovic> Nayela: that is simple: don't run make install for short term testing
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20090928 19:50:15< Ivanovic> just start the binary where you compiled: ./wesnoth Path/to/checkoutdir
20090928 19:50:26< Nayela> Ivanovic, makes sense. Thanks :)
20090928 19:51:05< Ivanovic> (or if you just changed something in the sources and ran make install already before: just call the new binary without any param at the compile folder
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20090928 19:51:19< Ivanovic> since no data changed, the only difference at make install would be a copy of the binary
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20090928 19:56:23< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Can I start uploading before you finish the first upload? :P
20090928 19:56:51< loonycyborg> There doesn't seem to be 1.7.6 'folder' yet
20090928 19:59:49< crimson_penguin> bleh, I'd be done making by now if my stupid gettext (msgfmt, etc.) still worked :-/
20090928 19:59:50< mordante> you're welcome Nayela 
20090928 20:01:25< mordante> Nayela, you can also run ./wesnoth relative_path_to_checkout_root and no need to run make install at all
20090928 20:02:00< crimson_penguin> GAH, now configure in complaining about no SDL - but that's OK, I don't need SDL to make in po/ damnit!
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20090928 20:02:33< silene> hi
20090928 20:03:11< mordante> hi silene 
20090928 20:03:39< Nayela> Heyas Silene
20090928 20:03:42< crimson_penguin> ok, can someone please give me a quick way to get configure to ignore my lack of SDL?
20090928 20:04:28< loonycyborg> gettext's? :/
20090928 20:05:20< crimson_penguin> I believe I just got the gettext stuff to work again, but now I can't make in po/ because I don't have SDL installed (I actually do, just not the "*nix way")
20090928 20:05:47< mordante> autotools?
20090928 20:06:05< loonycyborg> 'scons translations/' should work without it..
20090928 20:06:53< crimson_penguin> yup, don't have scons...
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20090928 20:07:33< crimson_penguin> and now I do
20090928 20:07:38< silene> crimson_penguin: you can try --disable-sdltest (i never tried myself, so i don't know how well it works)
20090928 20:08:20< crimson_penguin> yay! scons is working
20090928 20:08:25< mordante> sdl-tests still seem to test for sdl
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20090928 20:20:43< crimson_penguin> loonycyborg: ...ok, now how do I install the translations?
20090928 20:20:56< crimson_penguin> or is that not possible, you have to install the whole thing?
20090928 20:22:32< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: of course you can already upload to sf.net
20090928 20:22:40< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: you probably just have to create the folder
20090928 20:23:52 * Nayela is stumped
20090928 20:24:10< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: any ideas about how to bypass configure's SDL test?
20090928 20:24:18< crimson_penguin> or install translations with scons?
20090928 20:27:19< loonycyborg> crimson_penguin: Just copy them to whatever place you want.
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20090928 20:28:13< crimson_penguin> loonycyborg: OH! good point! with make you need to install because it changes the directory structure, but scons does that before installing :)
20090928 20:28:24< loonycyborg> Not sure whether install will produce something useful without sdl.
20090928 20:28:29< crimson_penguin> peeerfect
20090928 20:28:51< crimson_penguin> Hmm? All I'm trying to do is get the translations dir in a useable "format"
20090928 20:29:28< Nayela> mordante, if I post up a diff, could you spare a moment to look over it and tell me if you can see any obvious problems?
20090928 20:29:49< mordante> Nayela, of course, I already offered that before ;-)
20090928 20:30:23< Nayela> mordante, I didn't want to intrude if you had become busy
20090928 20:30:52< loonycyborg> Indeed.
20090928 20:34:51< mordante> Nayela, just ask if I have no time I'll tell you and on irc it's common it might take a while to get your answer ;-)
20090928 20:35:09< mordante> besides somebody else might also know the answer and reply faster
20090928 20:35:33< crimson_penguin> We have a female coder now?
20090928 20:41:13< crimson_penguin> loonycyborg: what's your ETA?
20090928 20:41:59 * crimson_penguin is uploading 3x faster than at home
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20090928 20:42:05< crimson_penguin> still gonna take an hour and 12 minutes though
20090928 20:44:14< loonycyborg> AFAIK we only have a female Debian packager :P
20090928 20:44:14< loonycyborg> It says 18m currently.
20090928 20:44:19< loonycyborg> And due to lag my replies come really late on irc.
20090928 20:44:32< crimson_penguin> ohh ok - still good
20090928 20:45:13< crimson_penguin> loonycyborg: I knew it! my one chance to be faster than you, and it was derailed by my upgrade to OS X 10.6 :P
20090928 20:45:45 * loonycyborg wonders whether he'll be earlier than Ivanovic :P
20090928 20:46:02< crimson_penguin> also derailed by you being faster than usual
20090928 20:46:22< crimson_penguin> may not have been faster even if I hadn't've had problems - your upload is still at least 2x mine it seems
20090928 20:47:18< Nayela> crimson_penguin, were you referring to me?
20090928 20:47:25< crimson_penguin> Nayela: yeah
20090928 20:50:14< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: considering the damn slow upload: yes, that is likely
20090928 20:50:22< loonycyborg> It's around 80 kB/s
20090928 20:50:31< crimson_penguin> 61KB/s here
20090928 20:50:44< Nayela> crimson_penguin, probably not. I have no idea what I am actually doing
20090928 20:50:54< Nayela> Which will probably become quite clear when I post this patch up :P
20090928 20:51:03< Ivanovic> 35kb/s here
20090928 20:51:28< crimson_penguin> programming isn't about knowing what you're doing, it's about keeping on going even when you don't... and then hopefully learning more as you go
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20090928 20:54:40< Nayela> At the moment, I'm trying to figure out why diff is putting '!' instead of '+' by new lines :-\
20090928 20:55:06< mordante> use diff -u
20090928 20:55:42< mordante> are you using svn?
20090928 20:56:58< Nayela> mordante, nope, just basic editing
20090928 20:57:21< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: looks like i was faster
20090928 20:57:21< wesbot> Ivanovic: Sometimes we are fast
20090928 20:57:28< Ivanovic> upload from wesnoth.org was fast as usual
20090928 20:57:29< wesbot> Ivanovic: Sometimes we are fast
20090928 20:57:44< mordante> wesbot you're fast
20090928 20:57:58< Nayela> And thank you :)
20090928 20:58:11< Nayela> This is my patch that doesn't seem to do what I want: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m32ee44ba
20090928 20:58:27< mordante> no porblem, just maybe consider to use svn it can easily track changes for you
20090928 20:58:36< Nayela> The basic idea is that is I double click, it holds mouse button 1 down for a second
20090928 21:00:22< Nayela> s/is that is/is that if/;
20090928 21:00:24< mordante> reinterpret_cast is often a bad sign
20090928 21:01:04< mordante> it means you try to be smarter as the compiler
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20090928 21:01:25< Nayela> I was just trying to use the existing code
20090928 21:02:24< silene> Nayela: the button won't stay down for a second, since the real up event will happen inbetween
20090928 21:03:01< Nayela> silene, I don't think that is the case as I'm not using a normal mouse
20090928 21:03:13< Nayela> This patch is to work around an issue that occurs with my touchscreen
20090928 21:03:54< mordante> ah I see we already to that :-/
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20090928 21:04:31< Nayela> The down/up events happen instantaneously, which prevents me getting past the objectives screen and using some ( most? ) scrollbar buttons
20090928 21:04:32< YogiHH> hello
20090928 21:04:36< Nayela> Heyas YogiHH 
20090928 21:04:42< mordante> hi YogiHH 
20090928 21:05:12< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: My upload has finished.
20090928 21:05:48< Ivanovic> mine is already done for 8mins
20090928 21:05:51< silene> Nayela: what do you mean?
20090928 21:06:06 * crimson_penguin is in 3rd place with 47 minutes to go :(
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20090928 21:06:18< crimson_penguin> So the touch screen fires an up event even if you're still holding down?
20090928 21:07:57< mordante> Nayela, seems your pseudo_click_up sets no x and y position
20090928 21:08:25< YogiHH> Soliton: Thanks for fixing the xp_modifier bug
20090928 21:10:22< Nayela> crimson_penguin, no, when you tap the screen, it waits to see if you tap again and if not, issues a down event and then immediately after, an up event
20090928 21:10:36< Nayela> mordante, that's because I couldn't figure out how to send it using SDL_AddTimer >.<
20090928 21:10:51< crimson_penguin> oh, I see... how is that a problem though?
20090928 21:11:12< Nayela> The old GUI code "ignores" it
20090928 21:11:24< Nayela> So I cannot tap past the objectives dialog
20090928 21:11:45< crimson_penguin> Oh, because it never gets an actual down state?
20090928 21:12:12< Nayela> I'm not sure. I think it is because it isn't in a down state long enough
20090928 21:12:32< Nayela> Because although the down arrows on the scrollbars doesn't work, they do "click" audibly
20090928 21:13:07< mordante> you can send extra parameters to SDL_AddTimer in the void* parameter
20090928 21:13:24< Nayela> mordante, I don't know C++ so I don't know how
20090928 21:13:30< silene> Nayela: the gui doesn't care about how long buttons are pressed, so i doubt this is the issue
20090928 21:13:33< Nayela> Whenever I tried to add anything, it just errors
20090928 21:13:46< mordante> the down arrow doesn't click, it makes a clicking sound when the mouse is pressed down
20090928 21:14:06< mordante> Nayela, you know C?
20090928 21:14:43< Nayela> Nope
20090928 21:14:52 * Nayela normally programs in Perl
20090928 21:14:54< Nayela> >.<
20090928 21:16:16< Nayela> And now it has gone quiet.. has everyone gone to get their pitchforks and fire?
20090928 21:16:17< Nayela> :-\
20090928 21:17:54< crimson_penguin> It just happens
20090928 21:18:08 * crimson_penguin was... writing something on a Facebook event page
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20090928 21:18:45< crimson_penguin> SO CLOSE, the event is happening 4 hours from where I live, but I'm gonna be there... until 15 minutes after it starts. >:(
20090928 21:20:17< crimson_penguin> (which doesn't even mean I can be there for 15 minutes, because my bus leaves then, so I'll have to be there before that)
20090928 21:20:19< mordante> nah it's normal on irc ;-)
20090928 21:21:21< mordante> but you can use new to create a new dynamic object in C++ you only need to free it later with delete
20090928 21:22:25< YogiHH> mordante, can you have a look at that, please? http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/de08b5bb
20090928 21:22:59< Nayela> mordante, I don't know what you mean
20090928 21:23:23< mordante> YogiHH, I was already kind of waiting how long it would take to get msvc complaining about my latest template stuff ;-)
20090928 21:23:32< YogiHH> hehe
20090928 21:24:02< Shadow_Master> r
20090928 21:26:12< mordante> I need to look something up
20090928 21:31:03< mordante> YogiHH, can you remove the keyword template at the offending line?
20090928 21:31:15 * YogiHH tries
20090928 21:31:25< crimson_penguin> Nayela: I'm not sure exact context, but something like: SDL_MouseButtonEvent *user_event = new user_event; and then later you have to delete(user_event);
20090928 21:32:02< Shadow_Master> mordante: ah... I didn't notice that the two overloads of find_widget() returned different types.
20090928 21:32:15< crimson_penguin> Nayela: that makes a new user_event on the heap and returns a pointer too it, rather than just making one on the stack, a pointer to which will stop working as soon as the function returns
20090928 21:32:22< crimson_penguin> to*
20090928 21:32:35< YogiHH> mordante: same line, now complaining about a missing semicolon
20090928 21:32:57< crimson_penguin> I'm not really sure where you would do that though, and I would think some sort of auto_ptr would be a better idea...
20090928 21:33:02< mordante> Shadow_Master, yes I prefer a reference if the type must exist
20090928 21:33:17< mordante> YogiHH, can you paste the exact error message?
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20090928 21:34:24< YogiHH> mordante: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d6020d2de
20090928 21:36:20< Nayela> crimson_penguin, at what point would I delete it?
20090928 21:36:54< crimson_penguin> Nayela: well I'm not sure exactly, because I don't know the context it's being used in :-/
20090928 21:37:10< crimson_penguin> Nayela: you would delete it when you're done with it though, whenever that is
20090928 21:37:25< crimson_penguin> and if you don't, that's a memory leak
20090928 21:38:15< crimson_penguin> and if you delete it before everything is done with it, it'd cause either undefined behavior, or a crash (next time something tries to use it)
20090928 21:38:25< Nayela> crimson_penguin, it is being used after pushing it onto the event queue so I wouldn't know when it was finished
20090928 21:38:59< mordante> shouldn't matter SDL needs to make a copy
20090928 21:39:01< crimson_penguin> Nayela: well it gets taken off the event queue, right? but yeah, it sounds impossible to tell what to delete and what not to
20090928 21:39:19< mordante> the local variable is also destroyed at the end of the function
20090928 21:39:22< crimson_penguin> yeah, I'm thinking that's NOT a place where you need to use new/delete
20090928 21:40:04< mordante> YogiHH, can you try this patch http://paste.debian.net/47707/
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20090928 21:43:09< YogiHH> mordante: yup, that compiles at least
20090928 21:43:59< mordante> guess it's a bug in msvc
20090928 21:46:17< mordante> I'll make a better fix and commit that in a sec
20090928 21:46:25< Shadow_Master> wesbot: bug 13275
20090928 21:46:26< wesbot> Bug #13275  Assigned to: None  Status: Fixed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20090928 21:46:26< wesbot> Summary: Turn Bell Not Functioning
20090928 21:46:26< wesbot> Original submission: The turn bell does not function after it has been reactiv
20090928 21:46:27< Shadow_Master> r
20090928 21:46:29< wesbot> ated. It will work by default on a clean installation, but once you disable the 
20090928 21:46:32< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?13275
20090928 21:46:35< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=5630
20090928 21:47:25< mordante> which MSVC version do you use?
20090928 21:47:50< Shadow_Master> r34908 sounds like something that could have been backported to 1.6
20090928 21:48:01< Shadow_Master> Ivanovic: are you going to have more 1.6.x releases?
20090928 21:49:31< Shadow_Master> (although... TBH it was nice to have all sounds, including the turn bell, get disabled with one single option)
20090928 21:50:17< mordante> Shadow_Master, there will be no more 1.6.x releases unless a major (security) problem raises
20090928 21:51:24< Shadow_Master> okay
20090928 21:51:57< mordante> YogiHH, which MSVC version do you use?
20090928 21:52:25< YogiHH> mordante: vc++ 2008 express
20090928 21:56:18< CIA-62> mordante * r38892 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/event/dispatcher_private.hpp: 
20090928 21:56:18< CIA-62> Workaround for a problem in MSVC 2008.
20090928 21:56:18< CIA-62> YogiHH discovered the problem and tested the work-around. Seems MSVC
20090928 21:56:18< CIA-62> doesn't like a templated operator().
20090928 21:59:28< Nayela> Is Wesnoth mainly developed in Windows? Just out of curiosity..
20090928 21:59:47< loonycyborg> No. It's mainly developed in Linux.
20090928 21:59:49< Shadow_Master> most developers use Linux
20090928 22:00:23< Nayela> :-)
20090928 22:00:31< Nayela> Okies
20090928 22:01:14< Shadow_Master> crimson_penguin: how should I credit you in my website for the MacOS X fornted to wesnoth-tc? 
20090928 22:01:17< Shadow_Master> frontend
20090928 22:01:21 * crimson_penguin is on Mac, but very rarely does anything not Mac-specific
20090928 22:01:54< crimson_penguin> whatever format you want; real name Ben Anderman, nick Crab_ 
20090928 22:01:56 * loonycyborg develops windows-specific code using cross-compilation and WINE :P
20090928 22:01:58< crimson_penguin> errrr, crimson_penguin 
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20090928 22:09:51< Nayela> mordante, do you think the lack of x/y in pseudo_click_up might be stopping my patch working?
20090928 22:13:24< Soliton> YogiHH: no problem. maybe some other attributes shouldn't be in mp specific settings either, like turns and gpv? (gpv is side specific anyway?)
20090928 22:14:13< mordante> Nayela, might be, not sure
20090928 22:14:29< YogiHH> Soliton: yes, i thought about that as well.
20090928 22:14:57< YogiHH> Soliton: Btw, era recognition works already, although i am not sending the whole config yet
20090928 22:15:35< Nayela> mordante, okies. I have a friend who knows C and he has offered to help me get that bit to work
20090928 22:15:56< Soliton> YogiHH: in the game list, yes that just needs the id.
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20090928 22:16:02< mordante> Nayela, ok but you're also free to ask here
20090928 22:16:20< Shadow_Master> note that programming C++ like if it was C may be dangerous in some cases ;)
20090928 22:16:51< mordante> very true
20090928 22:17:29< mordante> Nayela, that reminds me if your friend starts about malloc replace that with new and free with delete
20090928 22:17:54< Nayela> Okies, thank you
20090928 22:18:15< Nayela> And thank you for offering to help too :) I appreciate it
20090928 22:18:16< Soliton> YogiHH: btw, it's nice to have all the settings together to be able to make the game list form that. i wonder though how that opens security issues with modifed clients...
20090928 22:18:29< Nayela> I'm sure my issue is teeny tiny compared to the ones you have to deal with >.<
20090928 22:18:37< YogiHH> Soliton: In the test mp campaign, i also see a quick leader for every player
20090928 22:19:05< mordante> Nayela, you're welcome
20090928 22:19:07< YogiHH> Soliton: in the second scenario
20090928 22:19:52< Soliton> YogiHH: oh, i see. does the game get the era from the id because it is installed? or is the leader properly saved and recalled?
20090928 22:19:58< mordante> Nayela, we all started without knowing how to program at some point ;-)
20090928 22:21:00< Soliton> YogiHH: maybe test with an era event that displays a message on turn 2 or so.
20090928 22:21:46< Nayela> mordante, I know how to program, just not in a compiling language. As I said, I can program in Perl :-)
20090928 22:23:27< mordante> so you only need to learn a new language, even better
20090928 22:26:35< Nayela> :-)
20090928 22:29:13< crimson_penguin> Also, you're helping us - we're all helping the project, may as well help eachother to do so
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20090928 22:33:19 * Nayela scratches her head
20090928 22:33:26< Nayela> Not sure how I am helping you
20090928 22:34:07< mordante> simple you scratch your own issue and when somebody else runs into the same problem we send him/her to you ;-)
20090928 22:34:11< crimson_penguin> Well, if your patch fixes something and gets put into mainline?
20090928 22:36:16< Nayela> :P
20090928 22:36:17< mordante> I'm not sure whether this patch can be mainlined, since it fixes a rather specific issue, but maybe it can
20090928 22:36:56< crimson_penguin> well, if it doesn't break something else I don't see why not
20090928 22:37:02< Nayela> I think it is too specific and destructive in the fixing method. You lose whatever functionality double-click currently offers
20090928 22:37:29< crimson_penguin> Ah, I suppose so
20090928 22:37:29< mordante> crimson_penguin, ^
20090928 22:38:16< crimson_penguin> Still, Wesnoth is just generally helped by more people who are interested in it learning more about the code
20090928 22:38:23< crimson_penguin> also, what mordante said
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20090928 22:39:45< Nayela> If the implementation of the fix could be changed to, say, intercept the up event and delaying it by about 50ms. That wouldn't interfere with anything that I can think of with my limited knowledge
20090928 22:40:00< Nayela> Providing delaying the up event fixes the problem :)
20090928 22:40:33< mordante> Nayela, and it won't cause other problems?
20090928 22:43:28< Nayela> mordante, I can't think of any. I would guess that most reactions happen on 'down' and even if not, the delay wouldn't be noticeable
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20090928 22:46:22< mordante> Nayela, quick and dirty trick, which might work on SDL_MOUSEBUTTONDOWN store SDL_GetTicks if SDL_MOUSEBUTTONUP is less then 50 ms later delay the event processing
20090928 22:46:59< mordante> guess it won't work for the arrow, but might for the objectives
20090928 22:49:31< Nayela> Delay the event processing by sleeping? Or schedule it again for later?
20090928 22:51:28< Nayela> And I don't think I have to save the ticks, I think it already gets done at 'last_mouse_down = info.ticks();'
20090928 22:52:37< mordante> for the ugly trick you can do SDL_Delay() which might already work for the objectives
20090928 22:54:07< mordante> ah yes that value is already stored
20090928 22:54:21< mordante> didn't look at the code when thinking of this solution ;-)
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20090928 22:54:58< Nayela> :-)
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20090928 23:04:14< CIA-62> mordante * r38893 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/event/handler.cpp: 
20090928 23:04:14< CIA-62> Remove the default case and add the missing cases.
20090928 23:04:14< CIA-62> Removing the default causes gcc to warn about this missing cases, which
20090928 23:04:14< CIA-62> makes finding them easier.
20090928 23:04:25< CIA-62> mordante * r38894 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (button.cpp button.hpp): 
20090928 23:04:25< CIA-62> Add event handlers for the mouse button.
20090928 23:04:25< CIA-62> Still calls the old callback, but this will change later on.
20090928 23:04:25< CIA-62> mordante * r38896 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (toggle_button.cpp toggle_button.hpp): Convert the toggle button to use new click events.
20090928 23:04:26< CIA-62> mordante * r38895 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (event_handler.cpp event_handler.hpp): Convert the mouse button events to new style.
20090928 23:04:29< CIA-62> mordante * r38897 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (toggle_panel.cpp toggle_panel.hpp): 
20090928 23:04:31< CIA-62> Convert the toggle panel to use new click events.
20090928 23:04:33< CIA-62> This needs some work regarding the pre events to properly select in all
20090928 23:04:35< CIA-62> cases but that will follow later.
20090928 23:06:48< mordante> I'm off night
20090928 23:07:10< Nayela> Night mordante 
20090928 23:07:11< Nayela> Thank you
20090928 23:07:16< Nayela> :-) Sleep well
20090928 23:07:48< mordante> thanks :-)
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20090928 23:14:45< Soliton> since we're in a string freeze now.. how about changing the menu option "unit description" to "unit type description" to avoid confusion? :-P
20090928 23:16:49 * Nayela sighs
20090928 23:16:49 * Ivanovic votes for using the sledgehammer against such suggestions!
20090928 23:17:01< Nayela> Well that didn't work :-\
20090928 23:18:26 * Soliton points Ivanovic to https://gna.org/bugs/?3869
20090928 23:19:19< Ivanovic> uhm, i just see the "priority: later" entry
20090928 23:19:30< Ivanovic> that is enough for me to make me ignore it...
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20090928 23:55:19< Nayela> Would it be possible to use SDL_PeepEvents to delay the button-up events by removing them, then adding them back in at the end of the processing loop?
20090928 23:56:20< crimson_penguin> Probably
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