--- Log opened Tue Sep 29 00:00:52 2009
20090929 00:10:00 * Shadow_Master doesn't like SDL for some reason :P
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20090929 00:12:34< Nayela> Oops
20090929 00:12:39< Nayela> Segmentation fault -.-
20090929 00:12:51< crimson_penguin> yaay
20090929 00:13:59< Nayela> Not sure how I managed that
20090929 00:14:19< Nayela> Although it doesn't look like my 4th plan is going to work :(
20090929 00:14:44< Shadow_Master> reading/writing at freed/unallocated memory, NULL pointer derefencing, wild pointer/reference access, etc.
20090929 00:15:00< Shadow_Master> there are just so many possible explanations for a SIGSEGV
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20090929 00:19:30< Nayela> Nope, this one is pretty crazy
20090929 00:19:49< Nayela> I added a handler for SDL_MOUSEBUTTONUP which just prints a string to STDERR
20090929 00:19:58< Nayela> It causes a seg fault :-\
20090929 00:22:03< Nayela> If I comment it out, all is fine
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20090929 00:22:52 * Shadow_Master can't imagine exactly how that works without reading a patch
20090929 00:25:18< Nayela> One patch coming right up
20090929 00:25:30< Nayela> Prepare to be amazed :P
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20090929 00:42:14< Nayela> Shadow_Master, here you go: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m2f2bccc3
20090929 00:42:47< ilor> you forgot a break; 
20090929 00:43:19< Nayela> >.<
20090929 00:43:22< Nayela> Thank you ilor 
20090929 00:43:35 * Nayela believes this is why she didn't learn C++
20090929 00:43:36< Nayela> :P
20090929 00:44:25< Shadow_Master> and ilor saves the day again.
20090929 00:45:27< Shadow_Master> that reminds me of a thing..
20090929 00:46:02< Shadow_Master> ilor: the File -> Revert map changes option isn't wokring in 1.7.5+svn and anything up to HEAD
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20090929 00:46:24< ilor> Shadow_Master:  yeah I noticed the bug report and I even bumped it to 'confirmed' today 
20090929 00:46:35< Shadow_Master> at least in SDI mode, if I... blah, good. Then again, I didn't need to do anything.
20090929 00:46:38< Shadow_Master> :)
20090929 00:46:51< crimson_penguin> does anyone know what cairo has to do with pango/cairo when pango is using the system font services?
20090929 00:46:59< ilor> it's a side effect of trtying not to duplicate code really, I need to add a special case
20090929 00:54:44< Nayela> :-\ Isn't it just downright annoying when the documentation says something will do something and then in practice.. it doesn't?
20090929 00:56:07< Shadow_Master> most of the time it's just me not reading the documentation in the correct order
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20090929 00:58:30< Shadow_Master> ilor: also, what do this kind of messages mean?
20090929 00:58:31< Shadow_Master> 20090928 02:42:54 error editor: Possibly leaked 588 action objects
20090929 00:59:44< ilor> Shadow_Master: this means I must've messed up something
20090929 00:59:54< Nayela> while ( SDL_PeepEvents(events, 1, SDL_GETEVENT, SDL_EVENTMASK (SDL_MOUSEBUTTONUP) ) ) <-- that should remove all up events from the queue.. but the loop never exits, it always find another up event
20090929 01:00:03< ilor> if you have a way of reproducing, please let me know
20090929 01:00:12< Nayela> Despite http://www.libsdl.org/cgi/docwiki.cgi/SDL_PeepEvents saying the SDL_GETEVENT removes them from the queue :-\
20090929 01:00:17< Shadow_Master> ilor: um, sure. I've been getting them since 1.5.x (really)
20090929 01:00:23< Shadow_Master> I forgot to ever report it though.
20090929 01:00:48< ilor> Shadow_Master: basically I keep a static counter of action objects i the editor, and if it's nonzero when you exit then something's leaked
20090929 01:01:17< Shadow_Master> as in, actual memory leaks?
20090929 01:01:20< ilor> yep
20090929 01:02:54< Shadow_Master> good that they aren't big enough to starve my laptop, eh? :P
20090929 01:03:19< Shadow_Master> I'm not sure how I manage to get this at random times when quitting
20090929 01:03:34< ilor> Shadow_Master:  my basic usage test (i.e draw something on the map, open another map, draw somethin there, undo/redo a bit, all while switching between the maps) doesn't give me the error
20090929 01:04:24< ilor> so I'd be really grateful for a way to reproduce
20090929 01:06:24< Shadow_Master> seems to happen predictably (?) if I draw ice on the default new map, open another map from a file, draw more ice on the opened map, and then quit the editor to main menu
20090929 01:06:27< Shadow_Master> all in SDI mdoe
20090929 01:07:59< Shadow_Master> um, just drawing snow (or probably any other terrain) on the default new map, opening another map and then quitting immediately seems to do it again.
20090929 01:07:59< ilor> huh true
20090929 01:08:23< ilor> chalk up another one for OAB, doesn't happen in MDI
20090929 01:10:08< ilor> aww how sweet
20090929 01:10:16< ilor> I need an op= in map_context
20090929 01:11:46< ilor> thanks for the heads-up, Shadow_Master, most action objects are tiny but they might contain e.g. the entire map data which is some kilobytes
20090929 01:12:37< Shadow_Master> * good that I have never spent too many hours fiddling with a map.
20090929 01:12:44< ilor> someone remiond me, which Boost are we officially using?
20090929 01:13:08< ilor> Shadow_Master: the leak happens when you load/create a new map in SDI mode and have a nonempty undo stack
20090929 01:13:12< Shadow_Master> 1.35 and later for the wesnoth game target
20090929 01:13:22< Shadow_Master> supposedly only iostreams and regex
20090929 01:13:46< ilor> nah, it's sbout headers, 1.35 has some more goodies :)
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20090929 01:24:21< Shadow_Master> 4um.
20090929 01:25:16< loonycyborg> crimson_penguin: cairo requests the font by name using platform's font services.
20090929 01:25:17< Shadow_Master> maybe I should have taken the oportunity to mention what translations an add-on has in the Description pop-up before the string freeze. (then again, I have no idea whether wescamp integration is working or not at the server side)
20090929 01:25:31< crimson_penguin> loonycyborg: ah
20090929 01:26:39< loonycyborg> http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Carbon/Reference/CoreText_FontManager_Ref/Reference/reference.html#//apple_ref/c/func/CTFontManagerRegisterFontsForURL <- perhaps that'll allow you to make wesnoth's fonts usable by cairo.
20090929 01:26:59< loonycyborg> It seems similar to winapi's AddFontResource
20090929 01:29:17 * Nayela requests permission to be confused
20090929 01:29:28< ilor> Nayela: granted
20090929 01:29:39< Nayela> Thank you
20090929 01:29:44 * Nayela is confused
20090929 01:33:01< Nayela> On a good note, I think I finally managed to intercept the up-button event and remove it from the queue
20090929 01:34:12< crimson_penguin> loonycyborg: looks like it'll work, but it won't work for the main problem
20090929 01:34:15 * crimson_penguin disappears
20090929 01:34:43< Shadow_Master> night
20090929 01:35:20< ilor> boost is sometimes very, very annoying
20090929 01:35:30< Nayela> Bye bye crimson_penguin 
20090929 01:35:36< Nayela> Boost?
20090929 01:36:03< ilor> to fix the leak without handcrafting a boring operator=, I need basically a deque of pointers that'll delete them all in the dtor
20090929 01:36:32< ilor> ha!, I think, there's boost::ptr_deque, I'll just use that and bam, problem solved
20090929 01:37:13< ilor> wrong. boost::ptr_* containers don't allow you to use an abstract class as the type stored
20090929 01:37:18< ilor> which is fucking retarded
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20090929 01:48:20< loonycyborg> ilor: Go bash people on #boost about that :P
20090929 01:49:39< Nayela> :(
20090929 01:49:49< Nayela> Delaying the up event doesn't fix my issue
20090929 01:50:14< Nayela> And with that defeat, I shall retire -.-
20090929 01:52:03< ilor> the ptr_* containers just ain't what I want. It focuses on cloneability, I just want reliable assignment and destruction
20090929 01:53:53< Nayela> Night everyone
20090929 01:53:58< ilor> and on that bombshell, it's time for me to get some sleep too
20090929 01:54:09< Nayela> Sleep well ilor :-)
20090929 01:54:11< loonycyborg> Why won't deque<shared_ptr> work ? :P
20090929 01:54:40< ilor> that'd be like admitting defeat
20090929 01:55:10< Crab_> ilor: wrap a vector of pointers in a class which'll manage the destruction :)
20090929 01:55:20< ilor> Crab_: yeah 
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20090929 02:46:28< Soliton> ilor: PMs you get while in a game will not show up in the lobby view for new GUI, right?
20090929 02:50:41< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: turns out activating local fonts inside an app is extremely easy - just add a key/value with a path to the app's info "plist" file
20090929 02:51:18< crimson_penguin> however, this still doesn't fix the other problem of not being able to use 2 fonts at once :-/
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20090929 02:59:18< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20090929 03:17:06< crimson_penguin> hi [Relic] 
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20090929 03:36:09< [Relic]> :)
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20090929 04:56:23-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.7.6, announcing soon | string/feature freeze active! | 92 bugs, 241 feature requests, 9 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20090929 05:47:06< CIA-62> jetryl * r38898 /trunk/data/core/ (11 files in 2 dirs): New melee attack animation for the orcish crossbowman.
20090929 05:48:55< CIA-62> jetryl * r38899 /trunk/data/core/images/units/orcs/ (6 files): New idle animation for the orc archer.
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20090929 07:07:03< CIA-62> jetryl * r38900 /trunk/data/core/images/units/orcs/ (4 files): Shadow fixes on the orcish crossbowman.
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20090929 09:04:59< Ivanovic> moin
20090929 09:08:43< Soliton> http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=387337#p387337  lock with: "Try again when you have learned to post in a reasonable manner."?
20090929 09:09:17< Soliton> another recent thread in similar tone: http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27285
20090929 09:11:31< zookeeper> fine by me
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20090929 09:21:34< Rhonda> I think I should remove the wesnoth.debian.net entries from the MultiplayerServers wiki page, then
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20090929 09:30:33< Ivanovic> wow, that dude really appears to be a moron
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20090929 09:54:25< Soliton> Ivanovic: when will you announce approximately? for 1.7.6 i need to recompile (already done) and restart the server for it to work right.
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20090929 10:00:49< Ivanovic> Soliton: i currently plan to do so this evening, something like 9pm local time
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20090929 10:14:44< Soliton> Shadow_Master: the description button for add-ons doesn't take filtering into account. (i thought you mentioned fixing that?)
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20090929 11:22:34< Nayela> Morning everyone
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20090929 11:58:16< Nayela> Heyas ilor and yamokidzu-it 
20090929 12:00:30< ilor> hi Nayela
20090929 12:01:01< Nayela> How're you today ilor?
20090929 12:02:09< ilor> moving.
20090929 12:02:35< ilor> uni starts in 2 days and I need to get myself and my stuff to the other city
20090929 12:03:06< Nayela> Ooo, looking forward to it?
20090929 12:03:23< ilor> not really, just another thing to do
20090929 12:06:33< Nayela> Ah, I see
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20090929 12:17:27< Crab_> hi
20090929 12:22:05< Nayela> Heyas Crab
20090929 12:23:19< Crab_> hi Nayela
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20090929 14:42:21< cib0> hi
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20090929 15:14:31< YogiHH> hello
20090929 15:14:41< Crab_> hi YogiHH
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20090929 16:04:30< crimson_penguin> "Loading 130968 stack frames... (0%)" :O
20090929 16:56:23-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.7.6, announcing soon | string/feature freeze active! | 92 bugs, 242 feature requests, 9 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20090929 19:03:13< mordante> servus
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20090929 19:34:38< Nayela> Heyas everyone
20090929 19:34:43 * Nayela waves
20090929 19:35:14< mordante> hi Nayela 
20090929 19:37:06< Nayela> Heyas mordante, how's things?
20090929 19:37:23< mordante> good and you?
20090929 19:37:37< Nayela> Generally good, not so much with my patch though :P
20090929 19:38:01< Nayela> I've put that on hold until I have some inspiration
20090929 19:38:14 * Nayela is out of ideas
20090929 19:40:23< mordante> you can still try to send the escape button and see whether that works
20090929 19:44:57< Nayela> True..
20090929 19:46:08< Nayela> I tried using SDL_PeepEvent to remove the button-up and add it back in after the processing unless 50ms had passed since the last button-down
20090929 19:46:30< Nayela> But somehow they still manage to get through, and it doesn't seem to work anyway
20090929 19:47:41< mordante> yeah I read that part in the log
20090929 19:48:19< Nayela> Only some of the up events get through
20090929 19:48:34< Nayela> but when it "works", it doesn't have the effect I want
20090929 19:49:02< Nayela> But I don't know if that is me, Wesnoth or SDL :P
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20090929 19:50:15< mordante> me neither
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20090929 19:50:59< Nayela> Thanks for your help though :) I appreciate it
20090929 19:51:08< mordante> no problem
20090929 19:51:36< Nayela> I brought a wireless keyboard so I can just have that with me
20090929 19:51:53< Nayela> Also enables me to chat :-)
20090929 19:52:29< mordante> :-)
20090929 19:56:07< Nayela> And use Ctrl+V and Ctrl+B which are very helpful and I don't think are in any menus
20090929 19:56:12< Nayela> ^_^
20090929 19:56:25 * Nayela has played Wesnoth every day since she found it
20090929 19:57:24< mordante> :-)
20090929 19:57:30< Soliton> both are in the actions menu.
20090929 19:58:07< Nayela> Ah, so they are
20090929 19:58:14< Nayela> Apparently, I'm blind >.<
20090929 19:58:19< Nayela> Thanks Soliton 
20090929 19:59:09< Soliton> no problem.
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20090929 20:38:26< boucman> hey all
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20090929 20:42:02< mordante> hi boucman 
20090929 20:42:09< boucman> hey 
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20090929 20:42:14< boucman> hey Crab_
20090929 20:42:19< boucman> Crab_: about the patch...
20090929 20:42:36< Crab_> hi. yes?
20090929 20:42:46< boucman> the only thing I test (apart from the patch itself that you acked) is that there is a changelog entry (none needed in this case and an about.cfg) 
20090929 20:42:55< boucman> so you might as well do that yourself :)
20090929 20:43:03< boucman> since I tend to lag a lot with patches recently
20090929 20:43:04< Crab_> no changes needed in about.cfg
20090929 20:43:10< CIA-62> caslav_ilic * r38901 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Updated localized images for German.
20090929 20:43:19< Crab_> he's already present there (he fixed a small bug some time ago)
20090929 20:44:01< boucman> then you can commit :)
20090929 20:44:03< Crab_> boucman: so, I commit
20090929 20:45:37< Ivanovic> Chusslove: do you also put the (translated) .xcf files somewhere?
20090929 20:46:34< Chusslove> Ivanovic: Eh, German translator was asking me exactly that, and I'm just writing him a message to talk to you :)
20090929 20:46:54< Ivanovic> i asked him to talk to you
20090929 20:47:20< Chusslove> Ivanovic:  Because these are "scratch" files, I don't think it makes sense me (or any one person) to play a liasion with them for all teams.
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20090929 20:47:24< Ivanovic> Chusslove: IIRC espereon added something in branches/resources for localized image sources
20090929 20:47:34< Chusslove> Right, that would be a good location.
20090929 20:48:04< Chusslove> branches/resource/image-localization/LANG or so.
20090929 20:48:05< Ivanovic> and it makes sense to keep those source image to ease updating once the "original translator" is gone again
20090929 20:48:14< Chusslove> Precisely, no doubt.
20090929 20:48:52< Chusslove> It's just very weird to me that one person handles those files for teams in general.
20090929 20:49:10< Ivanovic> why?
20090929 20:49:43< Chusslove> I understand why not everyone should commit POs -- causes trouble at PO update -- but general idea of VCSs is that people responsible for some work are people having commit acces to that work.
20090929 20:50:14< Ivanovic> Chusslove: but it is not possible to split svn just for single folders or the likes
20090929 20:50:56< Ivanovic> so it can only be "access to everything or nothing" and since image localization is a tiny and small fraction of translations it can probably be easily handled by you
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20090929 20:52:03< Chusslove> Ivanovic: For the record, is it only the matter of technical problems? If it would be possible to let people access to a tiny fraction, you'd do it?
20090929 20:52:54< Soliton> loonycyborg: "Client prerequisites are not met. wesnoth, cutter and exploder cannot be built." "scons: Nothing to be done for `wesnoth'."  that's confusing...
20090929 20:53:20< Chusslove> Well, never mind. If I'm told precisely "put this file there" within team's image directory, I don't mind doing it.
20090929 20:53:30< loonycyborg> Soliton: That's with 1.6?
20090929 20:53:38< Soliton> loonycyborg: indeed.
20090929 20:53:59< loonycyborg> It prints somewhat less confusing stuff in trunk.
20090929 20:54:14< Soliton> ok, nevermind then.
20090929 20:54:31< Chusslove> Ivanovic: Then it's fine to reply to German translator, "sure, send me XCFs too"?
20090929 20:54:40< Ivanovic> Chusslove: yeah, i'd say so
20090929 20:54:45< Chusslove> Ok.
20090929 20:55:27< Ivanovic> just tell him that you will put the file as you get it (no updates or changes of the name (unless required to make upload possible) into branches/resource/image-localization/LANG 
20090929 20:55:46< Chusslove> Will do.
20090929 20:55:50< Ivanovic> (you know, stuff like spaces should be removed, but beside this just upload without any changes and be done)
20090929 20:57:13< CIA-62> caslav_ilic * r38902 /branches/resources/image-localization/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Moving template images for localization to separate subdir, to make room for language dirs.
20090929 20:59:05< CIA-62> esr * r38903 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Tryo fix and correspomding pofix patch. Addresses bug #14402.
20090929 21:00:00< esr> I typoed the word "typo". Heh.
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20090929 21:01:14< silene> hi
20090929 21:01:50< mordante> hi silene 
20090929 21:01:59< Nayela> Heyas Sile
20090929 21:02:03< Nayela> silene*
20090929 21:05:08< esr> Ivanovic: ping?
20090929 21:05:15< Ivanovic> pong
20090929 21:05:44< esr> I can fix bug #14378: Storm's text is "spoken" by Nym, but it would require a string addition.
20090929 21:07:46< Ivanovic> esr: no different way?
20090929 21:09:38< esr> I could simply condition out the message.
20090929 21:09:56< esr> But then we'd lose the flavor event.
20090929 21:12:54< Ivanovic> is it this clear that the wrong one is speaking?
20090929 21:13:55< esr> Yes.  The Dust Devil is at the end of the tunnel, Nym is going to be somewhere else.
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20090929 21:16:02< Ivanovic> hmm
20090929 21:16:31< Ivanovic> no way to make some other unit (that somehow fits) say the sentence without changing strings?
20090929 21:18:20< silene> we would only lose the dialog when the unit happens to be the dust devil; it is not that bad
20090929 21:18:56< Ivanovic> hmm, okay, get rid of the dialog
20090929 21:19:48< esr> What unit would it be?  If the dust devil is at the tunnel end, it's at the tunnel end qnd nobody else is.   What I'd like toi do is add is a line of c=dialog for Nym that goes "The dust devil seems to think there's nothing else in that direction."
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20090929 21:20:06< esr> I guess I'll just condition it out.
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20090929 21:25:59< CIA-62> esr * r38904 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/04_Descending_into_Darkness.cfg: Fix bug #14378: Storm's text is "spoken" by Nym.
20090929 21:27:15< CIA-62> crab * r38905 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): patch #1319 by mordocai: EasyCoding task fixed - some AI code cleanup
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20090929 21:35:11< Shadow_Master> mordocai: do you have a forum account?
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20090929 21:47:10< CIA-62> esr * r38906 /trunk/data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/scenarios/14.The_Drowned_Plains.cfg: 
20090929 21:47:10< CIA-62> Fix bug #14374: "Half-broken dialog in TEI - 14". Props to lotsofphil
20090929 21:47:10< CIA-62> for the WML patch.
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20090929 22:04:20< Shadow_Master> wesnoth creates registry entries on windows?
20090929 22:04:39< Shadow_Master> ah wait. neeeever mind.
20090929 22:04:43< loonycyborg> Shadow_Master: Only for the install/uninstall putposes.
20090929 22:04:54< loonycyborg> Wesnoth itself doesn't read registry.
20090929 22:05:16< Shadow_Master> yes, yes, I know.
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20090929 22:18:00< mordante> and of course it's a bad bad idea to use the normal way to register your uninstaller in Windows :-P
20090929 22:18:48 * Shadow_Master wonders what is that.
20090929 22:19:47< CIA-62> silene * r38907 /trunk/data/lua/wml-tags.lua: Fixed signature.
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20090929 22:47:08< Ivanovic> Soliton: won't announce today, will do so tomorrow after my exam
20090929 22:49:50< Soliton> Ivanovic: alright, good luck.
20090929 22:53:37< Ivanovic> will need it
20090929 22:54:00< Ivanovic> currently i see my chance to pass it as <50%...
20090929 22:54:03< Ivanovic> :(
20090929 22:56:23-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.7.6, announcing soon | string/feature freeze active! | 88 bugs, 237 feature requests, 9 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20090929 23:29:15< CIA-62> mordante * r38908 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (text_box.cpp text_box.hpp): Add rudimentary new event mouse support.
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20090929 23:59:17< Sapient> YO
20090929 23:59:30< Crab_> hi Sapient
20090929 23:59:37< Sapient> hey there Crab
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