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20090924 19:01:56< Ken_Oh1> anyone here remember the location of the file where fottings are found? units.wesnoth.org seems to be missing village and castle
20090924 19:01:58< Ken_Oh1> ?
20090924 19:02:26< Aethaeryn> Ken_Oh1: fottings?
20090924 19:02:42< Ken_Oh1> footings, sorry
20090924 19:02:50< Ken_Oh1> used to be footing.cfg or something. 
20090924 19:03:00< Aethaeryn> still don't know what you're talking about, sorry
20090924 19:03:27< Soliton> movement types?
20090924 19:03:56< Ken_Oh1> yeah
20090924 19:04:34< Aethaeryn> ah, those
20090924 19:04:42< Aethaeryn> it's in the actual files...
20090924 19:04:48< Aethaeryn> like human.cfg etc.
20090924 19:04:49< Aethaeryn> iirc
20090924 19:05:38< Soliton> data/core/units.cfg
20090924 19:06:30< Ken_Oh1> that's it. thanks!
20090924 19:08:05< Soliton> btw, remaining ammo + skirmisher + dash still owns everything else in wesband IMO.
20090924 19:08:44< Aethaeryn> Wesband is too easy.
20090924 19:08:54< Aethaeryn> Compare it to Nethack, where I never made it past the third floor. :P
20090924 19:09:03< ardesh__> lol?
20090924 19:09:12< blarumyrran> I once played a roguelike
20090924 19:09:33< blarumyrran> It relied on an impossible amount of keyboard shortcuts
20090924 19:09:36< Aethaeryn> ardesh__: damn locked door stopped me.
20090924 19:09:52< blarumyrran> I was a necromancer but i only knew how to hit things with a stick
20090924 19:09:56< Aethaeryn> lol.
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20090924 19:09:59< blarumyrran> Some dogs ate me or something.
20090924 19:10:06< blarumyrran> I uninstalled.
20090924 19:11:13< Aethaeryn> blarumyrran: could've been worse.
20090924 19:11:23< Soliton> i wasn't talking about the difficulty (that is much better now) but about the choices the player has.
20090924 19:11:31< Aethaeryn> blarumyrran: Mushrooms could've given you some kind of hallucination while they slowly digested you.
20090924 19:11:44< Aethaeryn> Like X-Files, which I honestly thought you were making up.
20090924 19:11:54< blarumyrran> i gave you the link
20090924 19:12:11< blarumyrran> I cannot be rewriting every possible wiki & imdb out there, you know!
20090924 19:14:19< Aethaeryn> I know
20090924 19:14:19< Aethaeryn> The only option remaining is that you actually wrote that episode FOR the X-Files.
20090924 19:14:58< blarumyrran> In that case i wouldnt be making up that X-Files has such episode tho
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20090924 19:16:05< Aethaeryn> blarumyrran: shhh, bad logic is best if you don't think about it
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20090924 20:57:21< _aD> are there known problems with the development v1.7.5? I was playing last night (and saving manually) but now Wesnoth says there are no saves
20090924 20:58:12< Soliton> are you on windows?
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20090924 20:59:44< _aD> hmm and can see my saves in %userprofile%\Documents\My Games\Wesnoth1.7\saves
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20090924 21:00:14< Soliton> start wesnoth via the shortcut.
20090924 21:03:01< _aD> thanks *puts away PRocess Explorer
20090924 21:03:04< _aD> monitor even
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20090924 21:14:36< GeorgeGhoal> Hello
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20090924 21:16:00< GeorgeGhoal> it's me again, in a weird mood of talking about wargames/TBS's
20090924 21:17:37 * GeorgeGhoal is angry with HoMM 4 being a blasted pseudo-RPG and HoMM 5 being just a 3D-ification of HoMM 3
20090924 21:19:53< GeorgeGhoal> so can s1 give me a link to a good HoMM-style TBS?
20090924 21:21:41< GeorgeGhoal> hey, what about making Wesnoth Chronicles with HoMM-style overworld and Wesnoth-style battles? Will that ever happen?
20090924 21:22:47< Shadow_Master> if you are willing to pay us lots of money to work full-time for you, yes.
20090924 21:22:59< Shadow_Master> otherwise: no.
20090924 21:23:16< blarumyrran> google Heroes of Wesnoth
20090924 21:23:52< blarumyrran> (it hasnt seen any development in a year, but still)
20090924 21:23:52< GeorgeGhoal> i mean not by Wesnoth main team, by some other o-src soft developers
20090924 21:24:07< blarumyrran> that wasnt made by a wesnoth dev
20090924 21:24:12< blarumyrran> iirc
20090924 21:25:04< GeorgeGhoal> Opera is good - just g <request> will search what you need
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20090924 21:25:21< GeorgeGhoal> like: g heroes of Wesnoth
20090924 21:26:26< GeorgeGhoal> hey, was that developer kicked from PC by crisis?
20090924 21:26:54< blarumyrran> interestingly enough if i type "heroes of wesnoth" in my google bar, it directs me right to the correct site (first site in googles list i assume)
20090924 21:27:16< blarumyrran> in my firefox url bar*
20090924 21:29:39< GeorgeGhoal> firefox spews fireballs of digital stupidity
20090924 21:29:51< GeorgeGhoal> Opera - +++
20090924 21:29:55< blarumyrran> I think id like opera more
20090924 21:29:58< blarumyrran> but im too lazy to change
20090924 21:30:06< blarumyrran> and there are still a lot of browsers worse than it
20090924 21:30:11< blarumyrran> like ie & konqueror
20090924 21:30:48< GeorgeGhoal> lol, !3 is a sucky browser
20090924 21:30:58< G-Lo> GeorgeGhoal: Age of wonders
20090924 21:31:07< GeorgeGhoal> Age of wonders?
20090924 21:31:11< GeorgeGhoal> what's it?
20090924 21:31:15< blarumyrran> a game
20090924 21:31:19< GeorgeGhoal> TBS?
20090924 21:31:22< blarumyrran> that resembles one that you requested
20090924 21:31:23< G-Lo> a Heroes3 like
20090924 21:31:33< blarumyrran> more MoM-like
20090924 21:31:46< G-Lo> better than HOMM3 imho
20090924 21:31:55< GeorgeGhoal> i like HoMM 3 and Disciples 2
20090924 21:32:09< G-Lo> GeorgeGhoal: you'll love AoW
20090924 21:32:15< Shadow_Master> Opera also allows to add Firefox-like search boxes to your toolbar
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20090924 21:33:17< GeorgeGhoal> it surely does, but i don't like most later features - so i stay with classic-skinned old-style Opera with BitTorrent
20090924 21:33:43< blarumyrran> ive played homm3 more than any other game so i probably cant take an unbiased view on that
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20090924 21:34:26< GeorgeGhoal> Age of Wonders - discware?
20090924 21:34:34< blarumyrran> Huh?
20090924 21:34:38< blarumyrran> Whats that
20090924 21:34:48< G-Lo> blarumyrran: it's installed on my PC for 5 years now, and i'm still playing sometimes
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20090924 21:35:17< G-Lo> GeorgeGhoal: Age of wonders - shadow magic
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20090924 21:35:44< blarumyrran> someone said shadow magic is just aow with hydras so i never bothered to download it
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20090924 21:35:53< blarumyrran> even if hydras are cool
20090924 21:35:54< GeorgeGhoal> what is the scheme? shareware or discware?
20090924 21:36:05< blarumyrran> Wth is discware
20090924 21:36:13< G-Lo> shadow magic is AoW with 2 other races + another plan
20090924 21:36:26< GeorgeGhoal> discware is if u buy a disc with a game
20090924 21:36:31< G-Lo> + less bugs too
20090924 21:36:51< GeorgeGhoal> so, is it discware or shareware?
20090924 21:37:18< GeorgeGhoal> maybe, ModuleWare? (disc base, cd-key to download addons)
20090924 21:37:19< blarumyrran> for me it was torrent-it-without-caring-about-what-it-should-be-legally-taken-as
20090924 21:37:47< GeorgeGhoal> if its a torrent, is it an ISO?
20090924 21:37:52< blarumyrran> but i think ive seen a disc of it in store
20090924 21:38:09< GeorgeGhoal> heh, so its discware
20090924 21:38:10< blarumyrran> why is that relevant anyway?
20090924 21:38:38< G-Lo> i(ve seen the disk for free in a magazine
20090924 21:39:30< GeorgeGhoal> so, AoW is discware?
20090924 21:40:04< GeorgeGhoal> DiscWare games often use shit like StarForce
20090924 21:40:49< Shadow_Master> a Google search doesn't reveal to me that discware may be a common noun, rather a proper name 
20090924 21:41:02< Shadow_Master> discware, inc., global discware, etc.
20090924 21:41:31< blarumyrran> Why does the method of copy protection matter if theres a crack for everything anyway?
20090924 21:41:46< GeorgeGhoal> not for StarForce
20090924 21:42:08< GeorgeGhoal> StarForce uses so many levels of protection that trying to fool it leads to BSOD
20090924 21:42:44< GeorgeGhoal> what an exploding piece of shit
20090924 21:42:58< blarumyrran> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarForce An official utility program exists to remove the StarForce driver from the system.[19] The program is hosted at a third-party website with a link on the official StarForce website.[20] Instructions for manual removal have also been provided by the community.[21]
20090924 21:42:58< blarumyrran> Starting from StarForce 4.0 it includes a removal service. This service automatically uninstalls StarForce drivers after StarForce protected product is uninstalled. After the drivers are uninstalled, the service uninstalls itself as well.
20090924 21:43:51< GeorgeGhoal> yes, SF4
20090924 21:44:16< GeorgeGhoal> it has so many levels of protection that it BSODs on cracking
20090924 21:44:22< blarumyrran> name me a major more-than-5-years-old game that hasnt got a crack for ir.
20090924 21:44:27< blarumyrran> it*
20090924 21:44:45< blarumyrran> (pc game*; i dont know anything about gameconsole ones)
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20090924 21:45:16< GeorgeGhoal> more-than-5yo? StarForce 3 and before are fooled with a MDF+MDS
20090924 21:45:35< blarumyrran> all aows are more than 5 year old for sure
20090924 21:45:55< blarumyrran> pretty much all games that my computer can run, too :/
20090924 21:45:58< GeorgeGhoal> so they _can_ be stomped by Daemon Tools?
20090924 21:46:32< blarumyrran> huh
20090924 21:46:42< blarumyrran> does any copy protection actually fight mounting the iso?
20090924 21:46:54< GeorgeGhoal> SF4 does
20090924 21:47:03< GeorgeGhoal> it BSODs
20090924 21:47:09< blarumyrran> You wouldnt be an employee of theirs?
20090924 21:47:18< blarumyrran> :P
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20090924 21:47:34< GeorgeGhoal> i just tried to blow KBAP
20090924 21:47:41< GeorgeGhoal> it BSODed
20090924 21:48:07< GeorgeGhoal> so, any kickdisc tools make SF4 BSOD
20090924 21:49:04< blarumyrran> I have no idea how exactly would that look like
20090924 21:49:53< GeorgeGhoal> Blue Screen of Death
20090924 21:50:13< blarumyrran> A copy protection that does something before you even execute the program
20090924 21:50:16< blarumyrran> That sounds like malware
20090924 21:50:41< blarumyrran> Not that id know a whole lot on them
20090924 21:50:48< GeorgeGhoal> protection that BSODs if u _emulate_ the CD
20090924 21:50:52< blarumyrran> yes
20090924 21:51:21< GeorgeGhoal> must i ask for KBAP for my bday?
20090924 21:51:36< blarumyrran> What?
20090924 21:52:00< GeorgeGhoal> must i ask for King's Bounty: Armored Princess for my birthday?
20090924 21:52:10< blarumyrran> o_O from whom?
20090924 21:52:19< GeorgeGhoal> from my parents
20090924 21:52:40< blarumyrran> If it actually contains the malware that you mentioned, id keep away from it
20090924 21:53:06< GeorgeGhoal> it does not BSOD if u use a licensed CD
20090924 21:53:12< blarumyrran> yes
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20090924 21:53:42< blarumyrran> but the reason why it would know that your cd is unlicensed in the first place, before you even execute program but just mount it, can only be that it has strange access rights
20090924 21:54:28< GeorgeGhoal> access rights? CDFS lacks that option, the game's DVD is CDFS
20090924 21:54:44< GeorgeGhoal> UDF does have access rights
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20090924 21:54:56< GeorgeGhoal> HoMM 5 uses UDF
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20090924 21:55:22< blarumyrran> access rights to what
20090924 21:55:27< GeorgeGhoal> so should i get a licensed copy of KBAP?
20090924 21:55:40< blarumyrran> to do anything in your system before you even execute any file with them?
20090924 21:56:17< GeorgeGhoal> SF4 has lo-lvl protection tricks
20090924 21:56:55< GeorgeGhoal> like sending the reading cooldown checking requests by BIOS
20090924 21:57:03< GeorgeGhoal> that's why it BSODs
20090924 21:57:05< blarumyrran> Why would you want something that has "lo-lvl protection tricks" in your computer?
20090924 21:58:05< GeorgeGhoal> i just want to play King's Bounty: Armored Princess
20090924 21:58:14< GeorgeGhoal> ...
20090924 21:58:43< blarumyrran> as a rule of thumb, if its a good enough game, there will be a crack that works for it sooner or later
20090924 21:59:15< blarumyrran> if you like the developers you may of course buy it
20090924 21:59:34< GeorgeGhoal> crack for a game with 10 components constantly checking each other's checksum?
20090924 21:59:48< GeorgeGhoal> that cant happen
20090924 22:00:11< GeorgeGhoal> 10 parts, 5 of which are gamedata, 5 are apps/DLL's
20090924 22:00:26< blarumyrran> Well i cant talk much about your starforces and kingsbountyAPs
20090924 22:00:32< blarumyrran> dont know much about either
20090924 22:00:41< blarumyrran> how do you know that they do that?
20090924 22:01:17< GeorgeGhoal> that's what 1C asked the developers to do to harden cracking
20090924 22:01:46< GeorgeGhoal> so there's multiple checking system that really forms half of game's system requirements
20090924 22:02:06< GeorgeGhoal> 2009ish system requirements with 2006ish gfx
20090924 22:02:29< GeorgeGhoal> so, SF4 is unbeatable
20090924 22:02:40< blarumyrran> Because your computer crashed.
20090924 22:03:24< GeorgeGhoal> i managed to launch the game with fstarforce package, but after 2.2 patch the thing stopped working
20090924 22:03:33< GeorgeGhoal> so i played a game for a hour or 2
20090924 22:03:45< GeorgeGhoal> and i liked it
20090924 22:04:08< GeorgeGhoal> SF4 has no way to crack it
20090924 22:04:36< Shadow_Master> I suggest you do not talk much about cracking copy protection mechanisms here.
20090924 22:05:06< GeorgeGhoal> anyway, an unbeatable copy protection exists
20090924 22:05:39< blarumyrran> Im sure every copy protection is unbeatable for a time :)
20090924 22:06:30< GeorgeGhoal> there's OhNoDisc module that acts like a physical DVD drive, but uses an image, put into it via USB
20090924 22:06:41< GeorgeGhoal> idk if i can get one, though
20090924 22:06:55< GeorgeGhoal> so, no soft can beat SF
20090924 22:07:21< blarumyrran> how would that ohnodisc be different from any discmounting software?
20090924 22:07:49< GeorgeGhoal> it is a physical machine that is counted as physical by BIOS
20090924 22:08:06< GeorgeGhoal> that's how
20090924 22:08:30< GeorgeGhoal> currently, project is on pre-alpha
20090924 22:11:52< GeorgeGhoal> you turn your PC off, connect OhNoDisc with 2 USB cables, turn your PC on - when it loads, you see 2 discs - one is a CD-rom, one is seen like any USB flash drive. you put a MDS+MDF into it, press a button on it, in a minute a disc appears in the CD-rom thingy
20090924 22:12:42< GeorgeGhoal> so, it's a disc emulation hardware that BIOS counts like average CD/DVD ROM
20090924 22:13:30< GeorgeGhoal> note: at least one of 2 ATAPI CD slots must be free
20090924 22:13:45< _aD> It'd be interesting to see what system drivers it loads, as to how real it seems
20090924 22:14:29< _aD> 3G dongles use a similar premise, optical drive over USB
20090924 22:15:06 * _aD tags this conversation defectivebydesign
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20090924 22:16:35< GeorgeGhoal> but that disc emulation hardware has no accompanying software, Windows counts it like an average DVD-rom that does not need any driver installation - so it goes like average DVD
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20090924 22:17:37< GeorgeGhoal> cheapies would love if that project went to official release
20090924 22:18:36< _aD> I bet it still has some links to the USB or PCI bus
20090924 22:18:44< _aD> But it's novel approach, I must say
20090924 22:19:22< GeorgeGhoal> it's mounted via 2 usb cables as i said
20090924 22:20:14< GeorgeGhoal> one to use it as CD-rom, one for power and image changing
20090924 22:20:37< _aD> I assume it presents itself to the BIOS as a USB CD drive though
20090924 22:21:05< _aD> so it depends if the BIOS in turn presents that via the ATAPI interface, or does reference USB somewhere
20090924 22:21:36< _aD> Such a shame that innovation like this has to come into existence so that legitimate game owners dont' have to mess around
20090924 22:22:13< GeorgeGhoal> lol, IBM-type BIOS has 2 pairs of CD slots
20090924 22:22:35< GeorgeGhoal> ATAPI and another one i forgot.
20090924 22:24:14< GeorgeGhoal> so there must be USB CD-drive recognition added, those USB CD-drives must be referred to as ATAPI - OhNoDisc's cd-emulation output is for ATAPI
20090924 22:24:34< _aD> I suppose another way would be to go down the virtualisation route
20090924 22:26:09< GeorgeGhoal> a box of computer mouse size, 2 USB cables needed to mount it. inside, it has a CD-emulation hardware, based on 2 ARM CPU's
20090924 22:26:36< _aD> heh, sounds like they're very serious
20090924 22:28:08< GeorgeGhoal> they still need signal delay calculation chips and other parts to make it work better, plus plug-in files to let it use any formats besides MDF+MDS
20090924 22:28:55< GeorgeGhoal> serious? they took 2 ARM's out of broken DS's and overclocked them
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20090924 22:30:52< GeorgeGhoal> and... (!) they use a 12gb superfast memory card as RAM (instead of average RAM sticks)
20090924 22:30:56< _aD> I'm surprised they need such CPU horsepower
20090924 22:31:10< _aD> 12gig? blimey
20090924 22:32:07< blarumyrran> wth would you need that for in a pseudo-dvdplayer?
20090924 22:32:23< _aD> saving all your ISOs of course
20090924 22:32:39< blarumyrran> so you can save them real fast :>
20090924 22:32:53< GeorgeGhoal> no, as RAM
20090924 22:33:01< GeorgeGhoal> not as storage
20090924 22:33:14< GeorgeGhoal> as storage they use a 64gig flash drive
20090924 22:34:02< GeorgeGhoal> they got all those parts during trash-out in USA, - trash-out because many ppl became homeless during crisis
20090924 22:34:42< GeorgeGhoal> so, crisis gave birth to this project.
20090924 22:36:40< GeorgeGhoal> how can a company protect a game if there's a mounted hardware to emulate discs? only by blacklisting USB CD drives - but that'll be bad of them as many laptop users use plugged USB modules - CD drives, keyboards, etc
20090924 22:37:08< blarumyrran> well the obvious choice would be...
20090924 22:37:12< blarumyrran> not protect against mounting
20090924 22:37:40< _aD> what was their URL again?
20090924 22:38:20< GeorgeGhoal> that was said in a voicechat once, the soundlogs were removed
20090924 22:39:01< _aD> would be cool to see what hardware they soldered two ARM CPUs into
20090924 22:39:16< GeorgeGhoal> i hope we'll see that tool (or a similar one) in 2-3 years
20090924 22:39:17< _aD> and what they used to power it, I'd be surprised
20090924 22:39:24< _aD> wait, two USB ports is 1 amp
20090924 22:39:34< _aD> so that should be enough for the CPUs and RAM
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20090924 22:40:03< _aD> I wonder how they integrated flash memory into the bus for the RAM and then made the ARMs interface with it
20090924 22:41:12< GeorgeGhoal> lots of tricky combos of chips. that leads to lots of synchronization processes, that is why 2 overclocked DS ARM's
20090924 22:41:14< _aD> did they use new chips for the NVRAM or was it all rescued stuff?
20090924 22:41:49< GeorgeGhoal> all chips were taken from various consoles/gadget taken during trash-out
20090924 22:42:03< _aD> so did they use PGA for the CPU mounting?
20090924 22:42:51< GeorgeGhoal> idk what they used, but there's too much synchronization needed for now, that is why 2 overclocked DS ARMs are needed
20090924 22:43:17< GeorgeGhoal> each ARM is like 1.5x overclocked
20090924 22:43:33< _aD> did they have to use custom cooling for the ARMs after overclocking?
20090924 22:43:40< _aD> or did the std fans work?
20090924 22:44:57< GeorgeGhoal> they have helicopter-like fans - a small device, but having 2 x-shaped blades spin in opposite directions doubles the effect
20090924 22:45:31< GeorgeGhoal> the whole thing is powered with a USA-standard AC adapter
20090924 22:45:38< _aD> I suppose there's not much space for the standard fans!
20090924 22:46:02< GeorgeGhoal> 4 helicopter-like twin-fans
20090924 22:46:19< GeorgeGhoal> tiny twin-fans that spin very fast
20090924 22:47:58< GeorgeGhoal> but the whole thing needs to be attached to the table - the fans almost blow it away from the table
20090924 22:48:30< GeorgeGhoal> 0.0.001 progress code
20090924 22:49:14 * _aD nods
20090924 22:49:26< GeorgeGhoal> i guess 0.100 would be much bigger, standard fans would fit and wont move it
20090924 22:49:57< _aD> Strange, I don't recall ARMs ever really needing much in the cooling department, even if they're @ 50% over-clock
20090924 22:51:03< GeorgeGhoal> not ARMs, all the chips that make ARMs interface with flash and other things, plus emulation chips, delay calculation chips, etc
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20090924 22:52:36< _aD> kinda surprised they didn't just pay $10 for some DDR2
20090924 22:55:04< GeorgeGhoal> data must be given quickly, as it emulates the exact behavior of a CD - it's BIOS-related behavior, delays, etc
20090924 22:55:13< _aD> oh
20090924 22:55:29< _aD> but CD-ROMs were 52x way before anything as fast as DDR2
20090924 22:55:52< _aD> considering they went over the IDE interface there was never much point of such speed
20090924 22:56:00< _aD> since it was impossible to shift data across IDE at that rate
20090924 22:56:02< GeorgeGhoal> CD, DVD, blu-ray stuff...
20090924 22:56:20< _aD> and DDR2 is faster than any USB device can be
20090924 22:56:22< _aD> even USB3
20090924 22:56:36< _aD> I suppose they have their reasons
20090924 22:57:19< GeorgeGhoal> that memory card isn't usb, it's some sort of weird universal card basis that can be used for making different memory things - RAM, removable drives, etc
20090924 22:58:05< _aD> Ahh. Wish I could offer that to my customers, it would make a computer much more flexible
20090924 22:58:13< _aD> But I suppose it's something you can't buy in stores, right?
20090924 22:58:37< GeorgeGhoal> that thing was experimental/custom by itself
20090924 22:59:23< GeorgeGhoal> plus, they want it (later) to be usable for one CD image being mounted on multiple computers - to save space on each of them
20090924 22:59:40< _aD> so would it come with a 10m USB extension lead?
20090924 22:59:48< _aD> Or would it just send the data via bluetooth to another PC?
20090924 23:00:25< GeorgeGhoal> they intend it to have 11 usb sockets - 10 to plug to PC's as CD-roms, one to manage ISOs
20090924 23:00:30< _aD> GeorgeGhoal this has been entertaining but I think I shall step back to avoid spending too long OT for this channel :-)
20090924 23:01:47< GeorgeGhoal> well, i want to find any way to bash that StarForce anus out of KBAP
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20090924 23:03:38< GeorgeGhoal> some companies provide _official_ no-starforce EXE's to SF3 users - SF3 shits on Vista
20090924 23:04:38< GeorgeGhoal> so, Age of Wonders, CD game?
20090924 23:04:57< GeorgeGhoal> is it 2D or isometric?
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20090924 23:16:01< _aD> is it just me or has the first Merfolk level in the easy campaign been toned down?
20090924 23:16:28< _aD> I braced myself for a thrashing and saw not a single troll, and pretty much cleaned up
20090924 23:16:37< _aD> other than the loss of too many of the loyal merfolk :-/
20090924 23:28:36< GeorgeGhoal> lol
20090924 23:28:40< GeorgeGhoal> shadow magic...
20090924 23:29:18< GeorgeGhoal> "warning: soldiers might behave differently - even a hungry peasant can eat a dragon"
20090924 23:29:20< GeorgeGhoal> lol
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20090924 23:37:18< Shadow_Master> _aD: what is the easy campaign?
20090924 23:37:26 * _aD gets the proper name
20090924 23:37:32< Shadow_Master> or what is the first Merfolk level, while we are at it
20090924 23:37:53< _aD> Heir to the Throne, Bay of Pearls
20090924 23:39:02< _aD> I always rememeber getting a rude awakening on that level
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20090924 23:39:47 * Shadow_Master played that too long ago, no idea.
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