--- Log opened Sun Oct 04 00:00:32 2009 --- Day changed Sun Oct 04 2009 20091004 00:00:32-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 00:14:12-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 00:15:05-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20091004 00:42:23-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 00:43:02-!- Crab__ [n=crab__@economical.offerer.volia.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 00:43:45-!- Sapient [n=patrickp@wesnoth/developer/sapient] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 00:43:55< Sapient> yo YogiHH 20091004 00:44:09< YogiHH> hi sapient :) 20091004 00:44:31< Sapient> my internet won't be working until some time next week, so this is pirate wireless 20091004 00:44:36< Sapient> I don't have long 20091004 00:44:42< YogiHH> sapient: ok 20091004 00:45:30< YogiHH> the two bed rooms for gsoc hotel are out, we can either try to get a single room with an additional cot or a double room at another hotel nearby 20091004 00:45:44< YogiHH> and i plan to rent a car, it's pretty cheap, actually 20091004 00:45:49< Sapient> I like cots 20091004 00:45:55< Sapient> that works fine 20091004 00:46:09< YogiHH> sapient: ok, then i will try to get such a room 20091004 00:46:21< Sapient> whatever is easiest 20091004 00:46:29< Sapient> and/or cheapest ;) 20091004 00:46:43-!- giusef [n=giusef@unaffiliated/giusef] has quit ["exit (-1);"] 20091004 00:46:54< YogiHH> :) 20091004 00:46:57< Sapient> I am hoping to buy a new laptop by that time 20091004 00:47:20< Sapient> my current one is a train wreck 20091004 00:47:26< YogiHH> i see 20091004 00:47:41< Sapient> ok, I'm signing off 20091004 00:47:57< YogiHH> alright, i will mail to you if there is something to say 20091004 00:48:03< YogiHH> cy 20091004 00:48:38< Crab__> silene: note: r39046 and r39050 are not good - those classes are part of candidate 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20091004 05:09:41-!- Chusslove [n=Chusslov@brsg-d9befb40.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 05:14:55-!- Ivanovic [n=ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 05:15:27-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20091004 05:51:49-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20091004 06:38:49-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 07:20:51-!- mordante [n=mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 07:21:06< mordante> servus 20091004 07:24:34< Espreon> Iċ grete þē... 20091004 07:25:11 * mordante can't make head or tails from that message 20091004 07:25:26< Espreon> That is Old English for "I greet thee." 20091004 07:25:42< Espreon> Or in more modern terms: "I greet you." 20091004 07:26:09< Espreon> And I am sure that I forgot to put a macron somewhere. 20091004 07:27:05< Espreon> mordante: Outof curiosity, did that sentence render correctly from your view? 20091004 07:27:07< Espreon> *Out of 20091004 07:27:12< mordante> ah ok now that I know what it means I can make something of it 20091004 07:27:41< mordante> yes renders correctly 20091004 07:27:45< Espreon> Good. :) 20091004 07:30:31< mordante> when are you going to start on an old English Wesnoth translation? 20091004 07:31:09< Espreon> When I learn enough of it to do so. 20091004 07:32:00< Espreon> There will be one in Anglo-Saxon runes and another in the Latin alphabet. 20091004 07:32:21< Espreon> mordante: And don't ask me to take over the Spanish translation. 20091004 07:32:25< Espreon> I don't need another time sapper... 20091004 07:32:53 * Espreon wishes that there was a language code for Early Modern English. 20091004 07:33:14< mordante> I don't understand Spanish so won't ask about that translation 20091004 07:33:46< mordante> we can always invent one and use it as if it's a dialect 20091004 07:34:04< Espreon> True... 20091004 07:34:20-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20091004 07:34:43< Espreon> Let's see: Old English, Middle English, and Early Modern English. What a bundle of fun... 20091004 07:34:44< mordante> we already 'invented' two languages 20091004 07:34:55< Espreon> Which ones? 20091004 07:35:21< mordante> latin and rvac (a Spanish dialect) 20091004 07:35:32< mordante> racv* 20091004 07:37:06< Espreon> I thought that Latin already had language codes. 20091004 07:38:05< mordante> might be, but at least it's not know in glibc 20091004 07:38:16< Espreon> Oh, I see... 20091004 07:38:17< mordante> that's why we needed dummy language 20091004 07:38:22< mordante> languages* 20091004 07:38:36< Espreon> mordante: If you really want an Old English translation now, then go bug dfranke_. 20091004 07:39:38< mordante> let's say it like this if somebody wants to spend his/her time on it I would love to play Wesnoth it in 20091004 07:40:03< mordante> I think it would be fun 20091004 07:40:23< Espreon> 'Twould be fun to have a Wesnoth translation that uses runes... 20091004 07:42:46< mordante> that too... which leads me to wonder what happened to the scripts kitty developped 20091004 07:46:12< Espreon> mordante: How does one get the Latin translation to work? I cannot select it. 20091004 07:47:48< mordante> which OS? 20091004 07:48:15< Espreon> Linux. 20091004 07:48:34< mordante> you need to compile Wesnoth with dummy-locales enabled 20091004 07:49:38< Espreon> Ah, I see. 20091004 07:49:39< Espreon> Thanks. 20091004 07:53:18-!- meowreka1 [n=Administ@c-69-242-154-116.hsd1.mo.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 07:53:26< meowreka1> hi 20091004 07:53:32< Espreon> Hello. 20091004 07:54:15< meowreka1> #wesnoth is dead. 20091004 07:54:45< meowreka1> I guess I should expect that at 1 AM 20091004 07:55:01< Espreon> That is true. 20091004 07:55:14< mordante> meowreka1, what do you mean with dead 20091004 07:55:25< meowreka1> lol why is the 1 there 20091004 07:55:26< meowreka1> that's so odd 20091004 07:55:38< mordante> it's your ncik :-P 20091004 07:55:42< mordante> nick* 20091004 07:55:47< meowreka1> am I logged on from two places 20091004 07:55:49< meowreka1> oh whatever 20091004 07:55:53< meowreka1> nobody is talking there. 20091004 07:56:00< meowreka1> was looking for someone to help me test my new factions in my new era 20091004 07:56:05< mordante> I use tab completion so doe meo 20091004 07:56:12< mordante> do* 20091004 07:56:50< mordante> btw it's not 1 AM everywhere on this world ;-) 20091004 07:56:58< meowreka1> nope 20091004 07:57:08< meowreka1> but it's late at night for everyone in America 20091004 07:57:47< Espreon> Indeed. 20091004 07:59:13< meowreka1> does anyone have wesnoth 1.7.6 and is willing to play a game with me to help me test my era and make sure I didn't go horribly wrong with the WML 20091004 07:59:15< mordante> early morning in Europe 20091004 08:03:07< mordante> not interested to play, hacking Wesnoth at the moment 20091004 08:11:02< CIA-62> mordante * r39094 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (23 files): Disable old event handling code. 20091004 08:11:16< meowreka1> what 20091004 08:11:41< mordante> cia reports all changes to the source code 20091004 08:11:58< meowreka1> really now 20091004 08:12:33< mordante> meowreka1, this cia http://cia.vc/ 20091004 08:12:47< mordante> not the more famous intelligence agency ;-) 20091004 08:27:14-!- DDR [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 08:27:53-!- DDR_ [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 08:56:03-!- silene [n=plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 08:58:47-!- Doppp [n=Doppp@unaffiliated/doppp] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091004 09:00:07< Espreon> mordante: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?14434 — Enjoy. 20091004 09:05:24-!- meowreka1 [n=Administ@c-69-242-154-116.hsd1.mo.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20091004 09:05:46< mordante> thanks Espreon I know which commit introduced it ;-) 20091004 09:06:06< Espreon> You are welcome. 20091004 09:07:13< mordante> not too surprised the new event handler has some issues left 20091004 09:07:18< mordante> debugging now 20091004 09:11:23-!- DDR_ [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 09:12:37< mordante> Espreon, btw 39093 also has the problem it's introduced with 39089 :-P 20091004 09:13:36< Espreon> I see... 20091004 09:17:03< Espreon> mordante: Wait... what? 20091004 09:20:16< mordante> Espreon, ? 20091004 09:20:25< CIA-62> mordante * r39095 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/event_handler.cpp: 20091004 09:20:26< CIA-62> Send the event to the proper widget. 20091004 09:20:26< CIA-62> Fixes bug #14434. 20091004 09:20:39< Espreon> mordante: Eh, forget it... 20091004 09:21:00< mordante> Espreon, but you can play with 39095 now 20091004 09:21:12< Espreon> Thank you. 20091004 09:21:28< mordante> well thank you for reporting the problem 20091004 09:21:49< Espreon> You are welcome. 20091004 09:24:10< mordante> the problem was why you released the scrollbar grip outside the window (off the bar itself also had a glitch but no assertion failure) 20091004 09:24:16< mordante> s/why/when/ 20091004 09:24:56 * mordante thinks that entire sentence looks like bad English... :-/ 20091004 09:29:32-!- DDR [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 09:29:59-!- anakayub_ [n=anakayub@203.82.92.126] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 09:32:07-!- anakayub__ [n=anakayub@203.82.92.120] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 09:42:06-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 09:43:26-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 09:43:43-!- anakayub___ [n=anakayub@203.82.92.112] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 09:49:49-!- anakayub____ [n=anakayub@203.82.92.137] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 09:50:46-!- anakayub [n=anakayub@203.82.92.122] has quit [Read error: 105 (No buffer space available)] 20091004 09:50:49-!- anakayub____ is now known as anakayub 20091004 09:53:13-!- anakayub_ [n=anakayub@203.82.92.126] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 09:53:24< Espreon> mordante: Out of curiosity, when do you plan to fix the campaign selection menu's appearence? 20091004 10:00:20< mordante> Espreon, improve in what way? 20091004 10:00:59< Espreon> It looks horrible when compared with 1.6's. 20091004 10:01:05-!- anakayub_ [n=anakayub@203.82.79.101] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 10:01:12-!- anakayub_ [n=anakayub@203.82.79.101] has quit [Client Quit] 20091004 10:01:48< mordante> the background or the entire dialog? 20091004 10:03:23< Espreon> The background. 20091004 10:05:40< mordante> the new widget engine doesn't support a tiled background which is the cause for the problem 20091004 10:05:58< mordante> not sure whether I'll be able to tackle it before 1.8 20091004 10:06:10 * Espreon hopes that mordante will be able to do so. 20091004 10:06:17-!- anakayub [n=anakayub@203.82.92.137] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091004 10:06:21< mordante> but since more people complain about it, it may be called a bug 20091004 10:06:28-!- anakayub__ [n=anakayub@203.82.92.120] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 10:07:01< Espreon> mordante: Out of curiosity, why did you get rid of text markup in the campaign selection menu? 20091004 10:08:00< mordante> which markup? 20091004 10:08:40< Espreon> The type that lets you change the color of text. 20091004 10:08:52< Espreon> Having grayed text in some areas was nice... 20091004 10:13:12< mordante> iirc it's only removed in the name since we don't want that on the addon server as well 20091004 10:13:25< mordante> to avoid names screaming in red bold, download me 20091004 10:13:34< mordante> should still work in the description 20091004 10:13:42< mordante> (if not it's a bug) 20091004 10:15:33-!- anakayub___ [n=anakayub@203.82.92.112] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 10:16:20< Espreon> Well, it doesn't work in the description part. 20091004 10:18:18< mordante> you have an example? 20091004 10:18:53< Espreon> Hold on, I need to find the right revision... 20091004 10:20:32< Espreon> mordante: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/Invasion_from_the_Unknown.tar.gz?view=tar&pathrev=5015 20091004 10:20:53< Espreon> It would be nice to have the feature in the name too... but... oh well... :( 20091004 10:25:51< mordante> the problem with the name is that it has been abused several times :-( 20091004 10:29:37-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-188-135-230.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 10:29:43< Espreon> Can't it be made so that the feature is only present in certain areas? Or is this too hard/et cetera? 20091004 10:30:54-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 10:33:46< mordante> Espreon, any proposal how and when to enable it? 20091004 10:34:53< Espreon> Uh... maybe... 20091004 10:38:19< Espreon> mordante: Did that link help you? 20091004 10:38:35< mordante> IFTU uses the old style markup in the description, blame shadowmaster for that :-P 20091004 10:38:56< mordante> it helped but needed to recompile wesnoth, so it took a bit longer ;-) 20091004 10:41:06< Espreon> Well... it *used* the old markup. 20091004 10:41:22< Espreon> Now it uses no markup. 20091004 10:41:32< Espreon> ... in that description... 20091004 10:42:50< Espreon> That version of IFtU's _main.cfg is at least two months old. 20091004 10:44:09< mordante> from trunk <128,128,128>"+_"Version:"+" {~add-ons/Invasion_from_the_Unknown/dist/VERSION}"+ 20091004 10:45:10-!- stikonas [n=and@bcm-131-111-216-119.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 10:46:50-!- DDR [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 10:47:53< Espreon> mordante: And what about it? 20091004 10:49:37< mordante> Espreon, I do not understand you 20091004 10:50:22< Espreon> What don't you understand? 20091004 10:50:41< mordante> mordante: And what about it? 20091004 10:51:41< Espreon> I was referring to this: [04:44:17] from trunk <128,128,128>"+_"Version:"+" {~add-ons/Invasion_from_the_Unknown/dist/VERSION}"+ 20091004 10:52:14-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit ["Leaving"] 20091004 10:52:43< Espreon> The latest version of IFtU does not use that old markup... I had to fetch that from earlier revisions of its _main.cfg, thus shadowmaster should not be blamed. 20091004 10:52:57-!- DDR_ [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20091004 10:54:14< mordante> that's the latest version in umc-dev trunk, which I assumed is the latest version 20091004 10:55:08< Espreon> If you payed attention to the URL, it uses a revision parameter. 20091004 10:56:12< mordante> I noticed that, but I have a checkout of umc-dev here as well 20091004 10:56:50< mordante> so I looked at the latest version there to see whether it has been converted to pango markup and it's not 20091004 10:56:57< Espreon> Oh, I see... 20091004 10:57:11< mordante> hence the blame shadowmaster ;-) 20091004 10:57:22< Espreon> Then that makes... 20091004 10:58:04< Espreon> Ugh... LOL. 20091004 10:58:15< Espreon> I meant to say: "That makes sense." 20091004 10:58:26< Espreon> Damn Quassel GUI distracting me... 20091004 11:01:21-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 11:01:41< mordante> but it seems that modifing the description to use pango markup doesn't work as well ;-) 20091004 11:04:22< Espreon> Indeed. 20091004 11:10:02-!- DDR_ [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 11:10:21< Espreon> mordante: So, will this issue be fixed? 20091004 11:12:21< mordante> compiling a fix at the moment ;-) 20091004 11:13:17< Espreon> Cool. :) 20091004 11:13:53< mordante> but as I feared my naïve approach failed ;-) 20091004 11:14:45< Espreon> Oh noez! 20091004 11:15:06< mordante> but it should indeed be fixed, I'll post a bug report as reminder 20091004 11:15:11< Espreon> OK. 20091004 11:15:42< mordante> shouldn't be too hard but busy with event handling at the moment and prefer to do that now that I have the whole day 20091004 11:15:53< Espreon> Heh, new "awesome" quote: "... Then try a way that doesn't involve naïveté." 20091004 11:16:11< mordante> the other issue should be doable in an evening 20091004 11:16:22< Ivanovic> moin 20091004 11:16:25< mordante> hi Ivanovic 20091004 11:16:50< mordante> Espreon, KISS 20091004 11:17:57< Ivanovic> Espreon: with the translateable image stuff you should maybe try to sync a little with Chusslove 20091004 11:21:22< Espreon> What do you mean by syncing with him? Do you mean that we should tell each other about important occurrences and such more often? 20091004 11:21:35< Espreon> Ivanovic: ^ 20091004 11:23:09< Ivanovic> Espreon: i mean stuff like "okay, images were updated and XYZ changed resulting in fuzzy images for translators, one of us should notify them!" 20091004 11:23:38< mordante> Espreon, you might want to post a bug report about the background issue 20091004 11:23:52< Espreon> I do notify him of these things whenever I can get a hold of him. 20091004 11:23:57< mordante> off hunting for food now 20091004 11:24:12< Ivanovic> Espreon: his irc client is online in here most of the time 20091004 11:24:12< Espreon> *ahold 20091004 11:24:21< Ivanovic> so you can probably just leave a message in here highlighting him 20091004 11:24:49< Ivanovic> i think he reads the logs (at least looks for times when he is mentioned, i don't do more either...) 20091004 11:25:04< Espreon> Ivanovic: It may appear like that, but sometimes, it is just a lingering ghost. 20091004 11:25:46< Ivanovic> Espreon: if it is just a ghost he can still look at the logs and grep for his name in there 20091004 11:25:57< Ivanovic> irclogs.wesnoth.org 20091004 11:25:58< Ivanovic> ;) 20091004 11:26:05< Espreon> I am well aware of that. 20091004 11:27:45< Espreon> I do at least notify him of very important things. 20091004 11:28:02-!- DDR [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has quit [Read error: 105 (No buffer space available)] 20091004 11:28:12< Espreon> So, yeah... 20091004 11:32:20< Espreon> Ivanovic: I probably should have told you that most of the notifying was being done in private... so... yeah. 20091004 11:32:32< Ivanovic> ah, okay 20091004 11:33:15-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.139.50] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 11:34:03-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.139.50] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 11:41:48< CIA-62> ivanovic * r39096 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-sotbe/nl.po): updated Dutch translation 20091004 11:54:16< CIA-62> caslav_ilic * r39097 /trunk/l10n-track: Updated tracking index of localized images. 20091004 11:55:27< Chusslove> Ivanovic, Espreon: I think we sync reasonably good :) E.g. Espreon did tell me that all maps are open game until he says otherwise, and translators have been warned. 20091004 12:00:49-!- Netsplit farmer.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: DDR_, ettin, AnMaster 20091004 12:01:16-!- Netsplit over, joins: DDR_, AnMaster, ettin 20091004 12:05:15-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 12:06:55-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [] 20091004 12:07:15-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit ["WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!"] 20091004 12:10:54-!- Espreon_ [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091004 12:16:02-!- stikonas [n=and@bcm-131-111-216-119.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 12:22:01-!- Chusslove [n=Chusslov@brsg-d9befb40.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 12:25:13-!- yann [n=dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20091004 12:29:42-!- Chusslove [n=Chusslov@brsg-d9befb40.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 13:04:22-!- ardesh__ [n=ardesh@port-92-195-109-163.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 13:18:05-!- Chusslove [n=Chusslov@brsg-d9befb40.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 13:18:41-!- ardesh_ [n=ardesh@port-92-195-57-148.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20091004 13:18:51-!- fendrin [n=fabi@88-134-102-207-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 13:37:16-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 14:05:24< CIA-62> mordante * r39098 /trunk/src/gui/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 20091004 14:05:24< CIA-62> Improve opening multiple dialogs. 20091004 14:05:24< CIA-62> I wasn't entirely happy with r38964 since it seemed to fix a symptom and 20091004 14:05:24< CIA-62> not the cause, found the cause and reverted the code introduced in 20091004 14:05:24< CIA-62> r38964. 20091004 14:05:29< CIA-62> mordante * r39099 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (event_handler.cpp event_handler.hpp): 20091004 14:05:29< CIA-62> Send the SDL mouse motion properly. 20091004 14:05:31< CIA-62> This way a dispatcher can intercept and block the signal, which allows 20091004 14:05:33< CIA-62> resending the signal in a different fashion (which is wanted for some 20091004 14:05:35< CIA-62> nested widgets.). 20091004 14:05:37< CIA-62> mordante * r39100 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/toggle_panel.cpp: 20091004 14:05:39< CIA-62> Allow properly clicking in a toggle panel. 20091004 14:05:41< CIA-62> This was a known problem but I didn't realize the panel was already 20091004 14:05:43< CIA-62> used. Double clicking in the list doesn't work yet. Code to enable that 20091004 14:05:45< CIA-62> is part of a larger WIP project. 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Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20091004 16:21:27< CIA-62> ilor * r39102 /trunk/src/editor/ (editor_controller.cpp editor_controller.hpp map_context.hpp): avoid copying editor's map_contexts, fixing a memory leak during non-MDI load map with a non-empty undo stack, as reported by Soliton 20091004 16:21:57< CIA-62> ilor * r39103 /trunk/ (changelog src/editor/editor_controller.cpp): fix bug #14266 (revert all changes not working in the map editor) 20091004 16:40:57-!- fabi [n=fabi@88-134-102-207-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 16:42:56< CIA-62> mordante * r39104 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (event_handler.cpp event_handler.hpp window.cpp): 20091004 16:42:56< CIA-62> Rename the connect function to avoid clashes. 20091004 16:42:56< CIA-62> Also connect the dispatcher from the window itself which seems more 20091004 16:42:56< CIA-62> natural to do (we are the dispatcher). 20091004 16:44:05< mordante> silene, or some other C++ expert this commit should be save^ would it also be save if I use *this in the initialization list 20091004 16:44:56< mordante> that way I can call that function in the constructor of the tevent_handler and the window doesn't need to call it 20091004 16:45:30-!- fabi [n=fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091004 16:45:44-!- fabi [n=fabi@88-134-102-207-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 16:47:33-!- fabi [n=fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091004 16:49:41< silene> mordante: it depends whether it is safe or not to call the function with a half-initialized object 20091004 16:52:44< CIA-62> ivanovic * r39105 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-dm/de.po wesnoth-units/de.po): updated German translation 20091004 16:52:57< mordante> the function is a non-virtual function of a base class... which should be constructed before this class is 20091004 16:56:00< silene> that's not what's important; what's important is whether it can notice that some fields of the object still contain garbage 20091004 16:56:46< silene> (i mean, it could be a simple free function and yet cause an instant segfault) 20091004 16:57:55-!- fendrin [n=fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 16:58:36< mordante> ah ok, it shouldn't be able since it only stores data in a part already constructed 20091004 17:02:34< silene> then it will work fine 20091004 17:05:56< mordante> ok thanks 20091004 17:17:22-!- meowreka [n=Administ@c-69-242-154-116.hsd1.mo.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 17:17:32< ilor> mordante: did you change something wrt gui message dialog or click handling? I can't seem to click away a gui2::show_transient_message 20091004 17:17:45< meowreka> oogity boogity 20091004 17:17:50< Ivanovic> ilor: mordante changed *everything* with the new event handler 20091004 17:17:52< Ivanovic> ;) 20091004 17:18:11< ilor> Ivanovic yeah but this is somewhat basic ;) 20091004 17:18:57< ilor> mordante: in editor2 open up load map, type some nonexistant name, click okay, "map not found" appears and clicking on it or anywhere doesn't close the dialog 20091004 17:19:29< ilor> pressing Escape closes it and all the clicks that looked like they were ignored seem to have painted on the map while the dialog was open 20091004 17:23:16-!- alink [n=alink@wesnoth/developer/alink] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 17:24:43< mordante> ilor, even the basics changed ;-) 20091004 17:25:06< mordante> but I can't reproduce it here are you running the latest revision 20091004 17:25:14< ilor> yes 20091004 17:25:39< mordante> I had the problem before, but can't remember whether that was before or after committing code 20091004 17:25:41< ilor> well, rechecking anyway 20091004 17:27:11< ilor> okay I was two revs back one of which was yours, rebuilding 20091004 17:28:45< ilor> I'm on my laptop atm so it will take a while 20091004 17:30:26< mordante> no problem 20091004 17:30:44< mordante> I promise I won't be bored ;-) 20091004 17:30:44-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 17:32:52< ilor> yeah that last commit of yours fixed it 20091004 17:32:58< ilor> mordante: ;) 20091004 17:34:39< mordante> :-) 20091004 17:34:58< mordante> only surprised the last one did... 20091004 17:35:07< mordante> it wasn't supposed to have side effects 20091004 17:36:18< ilor> well. it is not entirely improbable that I didn't in fact have a 100% fresh build 20091004 17:36:41< mordante> ok 20091004 18:01:07-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 18:03:53-!- stikonas [n=and@bcm-131-111-216-119.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 18:12:28-!- fendrin [n=fabi@88-134-102-207-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 18:13:55-!- SonIcco [n=SonIcco@pD9512884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 18:15:29< meowreka> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27345&p=388068 20091004 18:17:05< CIA-62> mordante * r39106 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (event_handler.cpp event_handler.hpp): Also forward the raw button events. 20091004 18:20:52-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [] 20091004 18:21:06-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 18:32:27-!- EdB [n=edb@217.12.95-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 18:53:31-!- esr [n=chatzill@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 18:54:42-!- esr [n=chatzill@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 18:55:36-!- giusef [n=giusef@unaffiliated/giusef] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 18:59:27-!- Aethaeryn [n=Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #Wesnoth-dev 20091004 19:02:53-!- fendrin [n=fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 19:18:25-!- giusef [n=giusef@unaffiliated/giusef] has quit ["exit (-1);"] 20091004 19:29:25-!- DDR_ [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 19:30:07-!- boucman [n=rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 19:40:59< AI0867> Ivanovic: what should the translation of "language code for localized resources^en_US" be? the code of the translation or something else? 20091004 19:41:12< Ivanovic> AI0867: for dutch it should be "nl" 20091004 19:41:29< AI0867> en_GB and et translate it wrongly then 20091004 19:42:03< Ivanovic> how do they translate it? 20091004 19:45:17< Ivanovic> and yeah, en_GB is often wrong with this technical stuff 20091004 19:45:43-!- EdB [n=edb@217.12.95-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 19:51:43-!- PK2 [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 19:52:21< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27315 20091004 19:52:34< Ivanovic> sounds like it is somehow windows specific (at least partly) 20091004 19:59:57-!- fendrin [n=fabi@88-134-102-207-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 20:07:39< mordante> I'm off bye 20091004 20:07:49< Ivanovic> cu mordante 20091004 20:08:07-!- mordante [n=mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit ["Leaving"] 20091004 20:21:00< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: That can be pango/cairo bug considering that it has separate backend for windows.. 20091004 20:22:01< Ivanovic> yeah, might be 20091004 20:22:40< CIA-62> ivanovic * r39107 /trunk/po/ (20 files in 20 dirs): updated Dutch translation 20091004 20:22:41< AI0867> Ivanovic: en_GB translates it as en_US, et translates as et_EE 20091004 20:23:04< Ivanovic> AI0867: ahhh, okay 20091004 20:23:28< Ivanovic> regarding en_GB it does not matter anyway (no translated images there planned anyway) 20091004 20:23:50< Ivanovic> and for et_EE, hmm, where are the translated images stored, are they in et or in et_EE ? 20091004 20:24:35< AI0867> none exist so far 20091004 20:25:00< Ivanovic> since there are none it does not really matter, the folder will just have to be named et_EE then 20091004 20:25:38< Ivanovic> afk for a while 20091004 20:26:02< blarumyrran> what is the point of the _EE? 20091004 20:26:39< AI0867> location 20091004 20:26:57< AI0867> to differentiate between dialects, like en_US/en_GB or nl_NL/nl_BE 20091004 20:27:03< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Anyway, I've managed to reproduce part of that bug in winxp in virtualbox 20091004 20:27:25< loonycyborg> Namely unintelligible t-word 20091004 20:30:44< AI0867> Ivanovic: you missed po/wesnoth/nl.po in your latest commit 20091004 20:33:26< boucman> wesbot: seen thespaceinvader 20091004 20:33:27< wesbot> boucman: The person with the nick thespaceinvader last spoke 7d 6h ago. 2d 21h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: "night all" 20091004 20:33:33< boucman> hey all, btw 20091004 20:40:48< loonycyborg> Interesting.. It looks like on linux it ellipsizes those 'resistente, intelligente' strings but on windows it splits them in lines. 20091004 20:42:15< loonycyborg> And the second line isn't erased before redrawing. 20091004 20:48:19-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 20:53:48< silene> loonycyborg: it shouldn't be ellipsizing them on linux, be sure to revert alink's patch if you are using trunk 20091004 20:54:27< loonycyborg> Indeed, I'm using trunk. 20091004 20:55:29< loonycyborg> That is on linux. I was using 1.7.6 on windows. 20091004 20:56:03< CIA-62> ai0867 * r39108 /trunk/po/wesnoth/nl.po: Commit forgotten dutch translation update 20091004 20:56:12< loonycyborg> Is it supposed to split in lines on linux too? 20091004 20:56:25< silene> 1.7.6 is, yes 20091004 20:57:44< silene> loonycyborg: the patch to revert is 38947 / 9a3604f9cdd061befc0600d162206a42f4161217 20091004 21:01:07< AI0867> silene: git commit IDs do not match across different git-svn clones 20091004 21:01:52< AI0867> to me, r38947 is 37795dacbb91bbd696ffbc2053e52b88cbd651cb or 074443a09f33baf8a42ddb20a7c634c43636ac37 (two different clones) 20091004 21:01:55< loonycyborg> Indeed I have a different hash for that commit according to git svn find-rev 20091004 21:01:56< silene> really? that's unfortunate, i would have imagined the content of the blobs were identical 20091004 21:02:22< AI0867> they are also dependent on ancestors 20091004 21:03:04-!- happygrue [n=George@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 21:04:44< silene> AI0867: sure, but as long as blobs were identical, ancestors would have been identical too, by induction; but now that i know it doesn't work, i will refrain from posting sha1 20091004 21:05:24< AI0867> I think there was an issue with locally made commits 20091004 21:05:30< AI0867> but I'm not sure 20091004 21:06:38-!- ardesh [n=ardesh@port-92-195-56-140.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20091004 21:08:30< loonycyborg> silene: Should the name of the unit be ellipsized with that patch reverted? 20091004 21:09:06< silene> loonycyborg: no, it will be wrapped according to pango's algorithms 20091004 21:10:29< Ivanovic> AI0867: of course i missed it 20091004 21:10:35< Ivanovic> AI0867: because you have not sent the file 20091004 21:10:56< Ivanovic> you sent me sotbe earlier this say and a package of files some time ago 20091004 21:11:28< Ivanovic> this package included the following: 20091004 21:11:29< Ivanovic> wesnoth-editor/ wesnoth-httt/ wesnoth-lib/ wesnoth-multiplayer/ wesnoth-tutorial/ 20091004 21:14:47-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 21:15:17< AI0867> it's in the tarball I have here 20091004 21:16:12< Espreon> ilor: Aren't you going to port the fix to 1.6? 20091004 21:16:24< AI0867> po/wesnoth-lib/nl.po po/wesnoth-httt/nl.po po/wesnoth/nl.po po/wesnoth-tutorial/nl.po po/wesnoth-editor/nl.po po/wesnoth-multiplayer/nl.po 20091004 21:17:51< Ivanovic> strange 20091004 21:18:05< AI0867> lemme check if the tarball attached to my message has it 20091004 21:18:40< Ivanovic> it is there 20091004 21:18:43< Ivanovic> hmm, strange 20091004 21:18:57< Ivanovic> anyway, you commited the updated file so it does not matter 20091004 21:20:45< loonycyborg> silene: I'm still getting ellipses with that patch reverted. 20091004 21:20:56-!- esr [n=chatzill@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 21:28:36-!- SonIcco [n=SonIcco@pD9512884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091004 21:28:47-!- PK2 [n=pk@r74-192-44-206.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"] 20091004 21:29:39< silene> loonycyborg: i may have remembered incorrectly; i thought the rectangle was big enough for wrapping (still, i'm recompiling, just in case, to be sure) 20091004 21:32:26-!- blarumyrran [n=minaise@81-20-159-197.levira.ee] has quit [] 20091004 21:33:50< silene> loonycyborg: i'm getting ellipsis for unit type, but not for unit traits 20091004 21:37:21-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 21:38:09< silene> that being said, i'm finally able to get a display glitch on linux, when switching from an elvish shyde to an orcish archer (and only for these two unit types, this is really surprising) 20091004 21:38:17< loonycyborg> For me both 'Nano guardia del tuono' and 'resistente, intelligente' are ellipsized even after I checkout 1.7.6 branch. 20091004 21:40:19< silene> loonycyborg: sorry, i meant weapon traits, not unit traits 20091004 21:42:56-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-171-161-30.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 21:44:24< ilor> Espreon: ah, yeah, will do, only the checkout+build to check+etc routine will take far too long here, I'll do that on my desktop tomorrow 20091004 21:44:36< Espreon> Oh, OK then. 20091004 21:45:55< ilor> I got really used to the power overkill I have there --; 20091004 21:46:27-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has quit [] 20091004 21:46:51-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 21:55:09-!- Bellerophon_true [n=chatzill@BSN-142-95-32.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 22:09:48-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 22:11:31-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 22:15:05< CIA-62> silene * r39109 /trunk/src/ (display.cpp text.cpp): Ensured surfaces returned by Pango are not bigger than expected. 20091004 22:15:15< CIA-62> silene * r39110 /trunk/src/ (display.cpp text.cpp text.hpp): Made it possible to separately set height and multiline behavior. 20091004 22:16:57-!- esr [n=chatzill@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 22:32:04-!- boucman [n=rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit ["Leaving."] 20091004 22:36:46-!- silene [n=plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has quit ["Leaving."] 20091004 22:39:17-!- DDR [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20091004 22:39:27-!- DDR_ is now known as DDR 20091004 22:39:50-!- DDR_ [n=chatzill@66.183.125.196] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 22:43:17-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit ["WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!"] 20091004 22:54:40< alink> silene: r39109 break the various weapon tooltips. Each line must have its own tooltip, now only the last line have one 20091004 22:56:10-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 22:57:44< alink> seems that simply revert the removal of "area.w=s->w; area.h=s->h;" fix it. But i didn't dig more. 20091004 22:58:42< alink> I remind here that tooltip areas can't overlap, in case it's the cause of the bug 20091004 23:09:46-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20091004 23:11:12-!- yann [n=dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 23:31:31-!- alink [n=alink@wesnoth/developer/alink] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091004 23:53:58< Espreon> Ivanovic: Around? 20091004 23:54:04< Ivanovic> uhm, yeah 20091004 23:54:10< Ivanovic> what can i do you for? 20091004 23:54:51-!- Nayela [n=Nayela@cpc3-lich6-0-0-cust673.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20091004 23:54:55-!- Nayela [n=Nayela@cpc3-lich6-0-0-cust673.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091004 23:55:32< Espreon> I was told that in order to use translations such as the Latin translation I would have to enable dummy_locales, which I did, yet, I still cannot select the translations that use dummy locales. 20091004 23:55:57< Espreon> Is there something else that I need to do? 20091004 23:56:07< loonycyborg> You also should pass --dummy-locales to ./wesnoth 20091004 23:59:08< Espreon> loonycyborg: Thank you. 20091004 23:59:19< loonycyborg> np --- Log closed Mon Oct 05 00:00:19 2009