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20091016 00:04:52< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: I know. But SetEnvironmentVariable doesn't seem to affect gettext. So putenv is used instead.
20091016 00:05:02< loonycyborg> Thankfully mingw provides it.
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20091016 00:05:30< shadowmaster> uh, does that mean that Wesnoth is officially incomaptible with Visual C++?
20091016 00:05:38< shadowmaster> or at least for i18n.
20091016 00:06:01< loonycyborg> If msvc didn't provide putenv too it just wouldn't compile.
20091016 00:06:47< shadowmaster> well, that sounded like you wre implying it didn't provide it.
20091016 00:06:48< loonycyborg> Yet YogiHH appears to have compiled yesterday's svn successfully..
20091016 00:06:57< shadowmaster> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235321(VS.80).aspx
20091016 00:07:22< YogiHH> yup, wesnoth compiles with VC++ 2008 Express over here
20091016 00:07:54< shadowmaster> I wonder why they feel the need to prepend most non-deprecaed CRT library symbols with an underscore.
20091016 00:08:06< loonycyborg> Actually, it indeed uses _putenv, not putenv :)
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20091016 01:21:24-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.7.7 planned for Wednesday | string/feature freeze active! | 99 bugs, 238 feature requests, 10 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20091016 01:36:05< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: oh by the way, in Mac OS X 10.6, Arial Unicode MS has been updated to support all our languages - doesn't change anything for 10.4 and 10.5, but it's still neat
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20091016 03:47:30< Aethaeryn> bah, any mod around? Missed shadowmaster by literally 5 min. It's as if the spam bots are timing it :P
20091016 03:47:35< Aethaeryn> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=389596#p389596
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20091016 03:51:50< shadowmaster> not needed anymore.
20091016 03:52:42< Aethaeryn> Eh I saw "screen detatched" *and* "idle: 5 min 34 seconds" on /whois
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20091016 03:57:28 * shikadibot . O o (shadowmaster works in misterious ways)
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20091016 11:39:03< Ivanovic> moin
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20091016 12:40:53< YogiHH> hello
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20091016 12:56:29< Ivanovic> hi YogiHH
20091016 12:56:42< Ivanovic> YogiHH: i assume that sapient and you solved everything for next weekend?
20091016 12:56:49< Ivanovic> as in "got a room" and all the stuff?
20091016 12:57:33< YogiHH> Ivanovic: Yes, flights are booked, the hotel reservation is done and confirmed, and we will probably meet on friday at the airport.
20091016 12:57:44< Ivanovic> okay, great
20091016 12:58:18< Ivanovic> don't forget to exchange cellphone numbers or something like this because the airport is not too small
20091016 12:58:28< Ivanovic> (though it is smaller than eg frankfurt)
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20091016 13:01:11< YogiHH> Ivanovic: alright
20091016 13:03:27< Ivanovic> YogiHH: since you said that you will get yourself a rented car it is probably easiest to meet at the entrence of this area
20091016 13:03:44< YogiHH> yeah, i thought about the same
20091016 13:03:51< Ivanovic> that is: probably the BART station there since this is the easiest way from the terminal to that building
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20091016 15:45:06< Arc> wait wouldn't yogi be flying in to SFO?  most domestic flights fly into san jose instead
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20091016 15:56:21< Ivanovic> Arc: there are domestic flights to sfo, too
20091016 16:04:01< Ivanovic> uhm, trunk does not compile for me anymore!
20091016 16:04:40< Ivanovic> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m57b85a6a
20091016 16:04:46< Ivanovic> rough guess: shame on you, yogihh!
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20091016 16:17:44< CIA-45> loonycyborg * r39311 /trunk/src/ (multiplayer_create.cpp multiplayer_create.hpp): Fixed compile warnings.
20091016 16:17:49< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: ^
20091016 16:22:59< Ivanovic> testing
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20091016 17:12:13< Arc> Ivanovic: yea but then you pay a ton to get to sunnyvale
20091016 17:12:34< Arc> sanjose is only 7 miles.  if i get my bike fixed in time i'll be riding it from the airport to the hotel
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20091016 17:12:59< Arc> google is doing this whole "reduce your carbon emissions" thing
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20091016 17:22:39< Ivanovic> Arc: yogihh is getting a rental car anyway
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20091016 18:00:00< Arc> good choice
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20091016 18:12:11< YogiHH> Soliton: mp server is down?
20091016 18:14:28< YogiHH> Soliton: nm
20091016 18:15:37< Ivanovic> YogiHH: uhm, you are aware that the arrival times of your flights might differ significantly?
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20091016 18:16:04< YogiHH> Ivanovic: we checked already, sapient said he will arrive shortly after me
20091016 18:16:20< Ivanovic> uhm, okay
20091016 18:16:37< Ivanovic> thought you had the flight arriving at 2pm
20091016 18:16:45< Ivanovic> and IIRC sapient arrives at about 10pm
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20091016 19:01:30< YogiHH> Ivanovic: actually, i am arriving at 10:50am. Maybe i should check back on that in case sapient thought it was pm
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20091016 19:02:47< Ivanovic> jupp
20091016 19:03:20< shadowmaster> hi
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20091016 19:24:02< zookeeper> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27466 <- AFAICT, value= works but add= doesn't. maybe someone could check whether it's a bug or just missing altogether.
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20091016 19:24:50< shadowmaster> ugh, abilities ;)
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20091016 19:53:11< mordante> servus
20091016 19:53:54< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen ilor
20091016 19:53:54< wesbot> shadowmaster: Person, who 21h 11m ago used nick ilor, last spoke 2d 3h ago.  18h 18m ago as ilor_ was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message:
20091016 19:55:59< CIA-45> mordante * r39312 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Strip trailing whitespace.
20091016 19:56:02< CIA-45> mordante * r39313 /trunk/src/ai/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 
20091016 19:56:02< CIA-45> Pass parameter by const ref instead of const value.
20091016 19:56:02< CIA-45> Issue found by cppcheck.
20091016 19:57:11< CIA-45> mordante * r39314 /trunk/src/server/server.cpp: 
20091016 19:57:11< CIA-45> Pre instead of post increment a variable.
20091016 19:57:11< CIA-45> Issue found by cppcheck.
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20091016 20:05:56< mordante> Chusslove, the translated map in the titlescreen look really cool :-)
20091016 20:07:58< shadowmaster> t diff
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20091016 20:11:03< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: you got my message earlier?
20091016 20:12:21< crimson_penguin> it means in 10.6, everything is great... other than )( and Arabic not being connected
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20091016 20:38:49< boucman> hey all
20091016 20:39:39< mordante> hi boucman 
20091016 20:39:49< boucman> so, what's up ?
20091016 20:41:46< mordante> not much here, still polishing the new event handling
20091016 20:42:17< boucman> 1.8is going to be a very polished release :)
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20091016 20:43:54< mordante> I hope so, but still a lot of work before we can release it
20091016 20:46:27< boucman> thespaceinvader: did you see the bug suggesting we make ghosts less transparent ?
20091016 20:46:45< thespaceinvader> no boucman 
20091016 20:46:55< thespaceinvader> but it sounds like not such a good idea
20091016 20:47:32< thespaceinvader> given that the transparency varies a lot, and we need some leeway to make the shadow/nightgaunt nightstal
20091016 20:47:34< thespaceinvader> k
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20091016 20:55:04< mordante> hi Nayela 
20091016 20:55:22< Nayela> Heyas mordante 
20091016 20:55:41< mordante> Nayela, how are things going with your touchscreen?
20091016 20:56:42< Nayela> Not well in a sense. I couldn't "trick" Wesnoth into behaving properly ( I tried a few methods ) so I just brought a wireless keyboard >.<
20091016 20:58:25< mordante> also a solution... too bad you didn't manage
20091016 20:59:35 * Nayela nods
20091016 21:00:05< Nayela> It may have been my lack of knowledge but I think the issue lay "further down"
20091016 21:00:05< boucman> it would be great if there was a way to play wesnoth on touchscreens (with all those linux phones around it might bring us a whole new audience)
20091016 21:00:22< Nayela> Never mind, I have a workaround and the issue will be resolved as the old GUI is replaced completely
20091016 21:01:55< Nayela> mordante, thank you for asking :-)
20091016 21:02:20< mordante> boucman, indeed, that's why I hoped Nayela would find a solution, but she only has the problem with the old gui, not with the one one
20091016 21:02:27< mordante> new one*
20091016 21:02:33< mordante> you're welcome Nayela 
20091016 21:03:00< Nayela> I could ( try to ) find all the widgets that misbehave and fix them
20091016 21:03:42< Nayela> But it would probably take me a long time as I would have to learn C++ and SDL
20091016 21:03:52< Nayela> Along having to learn how Wesnoth works
20091016 21:03:59< shadowmaster> Wesnoth works?
20091016 21:04:17< shadowmaster> oh, wait, indeed it does! 2 bugs less now.
20091016 21:04:26 * Nayela giggles
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20091016 21:06:29< mordante> Nayela, it would at least help if you can identify which widgets misbehave
20091016 21:06:44< Nayela> One of the approaches I tried might have worked and I simply couldn't code it right :P
20091016 21:06:54< Nayela> :-) Sure, I can do that
20091016 21:07:12< mordante> might be, maybe I might find some time to look at it later
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20091016 21:07:46 * mordante just found a gui bug that hasn't been filed yet :-)
20091016 21:08:09< Nayela> This is where I'm not sure whether to cheer or not
20091016 21:08:27< shadowmaster> mordante: congrats.
20091016 21:08:51< Nayela> Finding bugs that exist = good. Bugs existing = bad
20091016 21:09:02< shadowmaster> are you sure it isn't one of those things that I stumble upon and think "ahh, mordante's probably working on this atm so he knows about it" so I later forget it?
20091016 21:09:42< mordante> Nayela, it's just nice to find a bug, which hasn't been reported yet
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20091016 21:10:35< Nayela> mordante, a bug found is a bug fixed
20091016 21:10:41< Nayela> :)
20091016 21:10:48< mordante> shadowmaster, don't think so MP -> connect to server -> show list -> move mouse out of dialog -> press escape
20091016 21:11:24< shadowmaster> indeed, I don't touch MP.
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20091016 21:13:15< mordante> Nayela, with this bug yes, but that's not the general case :-(
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20091016 21:13:49< mordante> if it were so, the topic would be 0 bugs, 238 feature requests, 10 patches ;-)
20091016 21:14:07< Nayela> You can't fix a bug if you don't know about it
20091016 21:14:51< mordante> also not true, I sometimes changed some code which by accident also fixed a bug ;-)
20091016 21:15:17< Nayela> Well
20091016 21:15:21< Nayela> Hmpf
20091016 21:15:22< Nayela> :P
20091016 21:15:39< mordante> ain't code a tricky one ;-)
20091016 21:15:56< Nayela> Indeed it is
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20091016 21:19:28< boucman> thespaceinvader: I was speaking of bug 14503 if you want ot answer...
20091016 21:20:51< Nayela> What is even more tricky is when you have a game idea but don't know how to make it
20091016 21:22:15< mordante> which part of the making do you not know?
20091016 21:22:41< thespaceinvader> boucman: i got that one completely the wrong way around
20091016 21:22:50< thespaceinvader> i'll take another look over them in use and give it some though
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20091016 21:23:05< boucman> ok, cool
20091016 21:23:09< boucman> hey I'm usefull :D
20091016 21:23:13< Nayela> The general structure of the game code and physics >.<
20091016 21:25:29< mordante> ah ok, then working on it would be a great thing to learn a lot
20091016 21:25:38< mordante> what kind of game do you want to make/
20091016 21:26:14< Nayela> I just it is a 'vehicular battle' game
20091016 21:26:27< Nayela> s/just/guess/;
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20091016 21:26:52< Nayela> Basically, you control a big wheel with weapons on it
20091016 21:27:09< Nayela> And there will be various modes like deathmatch, races and such
20091016 21:30:03< mordante> ah cool
20091016 21:30:19< Nayela> Does it sound like it might be interesting?
20091016 21:30:53< mordante> yes I played some of these games years ago, can't remember the names (was in the DOS era)
20091016 21:32:22< Nayela> Should have known it wasn't an original idea :-)
20091016 21:32:56< mordante> having original ideas is hard ;-)
20091016 21:34:04< mordante> I sometimes really miss playing those 'simple' games
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20091016 21:34:37< Nayela> Well I don't mind it not being original.. first of all, it's original to me and second of all, it might be fun :)
20091016 21:36:07< mordante> IMO the fun part is the most important
20091016 21:36:27< Nayela> Exact-a-mundo
20091016 21:36:31< Nayela> :-)
20091016 21:36:35< mordante> :-)
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20091016 21:42:58< CIA-45> mordante * r39315 /trunk/src/gui/ (auxiliary/event/handler.cpp dialogs/mp_connect.cpp): 
20091016 21:42:58< CIA-45> Fix the not properly drawing glitch.
20091016 21:42:58< CIA-45> When a window is closed the other dispatchers need to be set dirty so
20091016 21:42:58< CIA-45> they really redraw themselves the next drawing cycle.
20091016 21:43:01< CIA-45> mordante * r39316 /trunk/src/gui/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
20091016 21:43:03< CIA-45> Make init_mouse_location() a free function.
20091016 21:43:05< CIA-45> No need to keep it as member since it uses nothing of the class. Moved
20091016 21:43:07< CIA-45> it to the handler file since I'll need it there as well.
20091016 21:43:11< mordante> I'm off bye
20091016 21:43:12< CIA-45> mordante * r39317 /trunk/ (changelog src/gui/auxiliary/event/handler.cpp): (log message trimmed)
20091016 21:43:12< CIA-45> Update the mouse position after closing a dialog.
20091016 21:43:14< CIA-45> This makes sure the dialog below knows the proper location. It fixes the
20091016 21:43:18< CIA-45> following issue:
20091016 21:43:20< CIA-45> - multiplayer
20091016 21:43:22< CIA-45> - connect to server
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20091016 21:43:24< CIA-45> - show list
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20091016 21:55:36< shadowmaster> anyone feeling like directing this person to the correct place? http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27470
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20091016 22:18:14< ilor> hi all
20091016 22:18:46< shadowmaster> hi ilor, don't go away too fast ;)
20091016 22:19:05< ilor> uh-huh ;)
20091016 22:19:28< ilor> anyone, what are the currentlu available methods for moderating content on the addon server?
20091016 22:21:19< Nayela> Heyas ilor 
20091016 22:22:28< ilor> hi Nayela
20091016 22:23:01< shadowmaster> um, strange. I am using the usual number of compiler prcesses, and I'm not running any memory hungry programs besides Firefox :/
20091016 22:23:05< shadowmaster> and yet I managed to throw everything to swap.
20091016 22:23:44< shadowmaster> did the AI code grow again today?
20091016 22:26:13< shadowmaster> oh my, I do have the power of git-svn to check this (and since it seems it didn't grow today I'm most astonished now)
20091016 22:28:18< boucman> hey all
20091016 22:28:29< boucman> Crab_: so how are things with the AI
20091016 22:28:35< boucman> is LoW complete now ?
20091016 22:29:55< Crab_> boucman: not much to be done for LoW atm, except fix a few non-ai-related bugs with team initialization (last scenarios of LoW do very weird things to recall lists)
20091016 22:30:33< boucman> Crab_: if that means that it's ready to be tested, maybe you should add something in the RELEASE_NOTES for the next 1.7 release
20091016 22:30:39< shadowmaster> 4/27
20091016 22:30:57< Crab_> boucman: no, not yet. I've not tested those issues myself
20091016 22:31:43< Crab_> boucman: about AI, I've fixed a pretty serious 1.7 bug with AI targeting (~ a week ago). The bug caused the AI, in certain situations, to make weird shuffle-doing-nothing moves and not seek enemies or their villages.
20091016 22:32:14< boucman> yes I saw the commit, will you port your changes to the stable AI at some point ?
20091016 22:32:46< Crab_> boucman: it affected all 1.7 AIs, so it's fixed.
20091016 22:32:59< boucman> ok
20091016 22:33:51< Crab_> boucman: regarding things that 'maybe will be ported to stable', note that I've finished porting targeting phase to RCA ai. that means that RCA ai is now as feature-complete as default ai.
20091016 22:34:26< boucman> Crab_: great :)
20091016 22:34:35< Crab_> boucman: and, I've forked that 'targeting phase' RCA to allow testing changes to it (alink wanted to try some things)
20091016 22:34:39< boucman> so we can implement the current AI entirely using RCA ?
20091016 22:34:43< Crab_> boucman: yes
20091016 22:34:46< boucman> that's gonna be great for testing
20091016 22:34:48< ilor> one other thing, how does wescamp work atm, is anything automated?
20091016 22:34:55< Crab_> it will have less bugs, btw.
20091016 22:35:21< shadowmaster> ilor: I guess Ivanovic or mordante would know.
20091016 22:35:36< Crab_> since it doesn't have kludges such as 'oh, when we're doing a move, skip moving with leader because we might want to recruit later'
20091016 22:35:38< shadowmaster> IIRC it's not fully automatic and/or is not working at the moment for trunk
20091016 22:36:10< boucman> Crab_: even better
20091016 22:36:15< shadowmaster> ah wait, it's working! 
20091016 22:36:21< boucman> Crab_: is your AI testing script still running at the usual place ?
20091016 22:36:23< ilor> hm?
20091016 22:36:42< shadowmaster> um.
20091016 22:37:13< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: http://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/?package=wesnoth-The_Final_Exam&order=trans&version=trunk , clicking on any team name gives me a 404.
20091016 22:37:29< Crab_> boucman: the webinterface is up, but the script was not run lately. i will start it again this weekend to test some alink's changes to experimental CA (RCA with default targeting vs RCA with alink's bugfix to default targeting)
20091016 22:37:30< shadowmaster> but since the graphs are there it means the files should exist?
20091016 22:37:47< boucman> ok
20091016 22:38:06< boucman> (quick idea... since update is manual, it might be interesting to give names to updates...
20091016 22:38:09< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: well, it seems to be only that add-on. IftU's work fine. *grins*
20091016 22:39:00< Crab_> boucman: alink, for a long time, wished to fix some bugs/stupid things in default ai targeting (there are some *very* stupid things there), but it was not possible before because it was hard to test the result.
20091016 22:39:10< shadowmaster> ilor: the Help button in the GUI2 lobby doesn't do anything for me.
20091016 22:39:29< boucman> so basicaly... your SoC is being used by other peoples :)
20091016 22:39:32< boucman> congratulation
20091016 22:39:55< shadowmaster> IftU uses some of Crab_ 's stuff too.
20091016 22:40:19< ilor> shadowmaster: I must have forgot. and iirc it's not easy to just launch help from anywhere so this will probably get disappeared for 1.8
20091016 22:40:26< Crab_> boucman: yes. thanks. yes, it was one of the design goals - to make the ai modular to allow the ai c++ changes to be tested 'in pieces'
20091016 22:40:32< shadowmaster> ilor: k
20091016 22:40:56< shadowmaster> ilor: do you mean because of the unit descriptions?
20091016 22:41:20< ilor> no, because of the gui2/oldgui boundary
20091016 22:42:20< shadowmaster> the unit type caching stuff actually made it a bit difficult for me when writing the GUI2 unit-create dialog.
20091016 22:42:35< shadowmaster> at the moment it works but I'm not sure why.
20091016 22:42:55< shadowmaster> that's just a general comment ;)
20091016 22:46:50< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: also, question: there are strings in the wesnoth textdomain which I may copy into the GUI2 code for the wesnoth-lib textdomain (namely anything referring to unit reporting in create/recruit/recall unit dialogs) - is it possible to copy their translations from wesnoth to wesnoth-lib once I commit such changes to I can work on that without breaking the stringfreeze?
20091016 22:47:06< Ivanovic> no now!
20091016 22:47:10< Ivanovic> busy
20091016 22:47:27< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: ehm, yes, I mean before 1.8 is branched.
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20091016 22:48:38< shadowmaster> I want to work on that but I don't feel like waiting months for 1.8 to be released and new code can be enabled only with the --new-widgets switch to avoid throwing WIP features at users ;)
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20091016 23:13:17< Ivanovic> re
20091016 23:13:52< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: was too busy too read, that is had some vistors and was using the comp to view a movie where the notifictions are annoying
20091016 23:14:04< shadowmaster> you have many highlights there and there
20091016 23:14:36< shadowmaster> it's often better just not to connect/attach to the IRC session if you are busy though ;)
20091016 23:15:37< loonycyborg> /quit FTW :P
20091016 23:15:41< Ivanovic> irc is one of the progs that i just have on in the background
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20091016 23:16:38< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: in 10.6 i am quite sure that the en@shaw translation is not fine when 1.7.7 is out (the first release including this one)
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20091016 23:17:26< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: no idea what the issue with those g.w.o pages is
20091016 23:17:37< Ivanovic> ask crimson_penguin, he maintains the g.w.o scripts
20091016 23:18:11< Ivanovic> no, automatic copying using po2po is *not* working well anymore for all domains that have stuff with plurals
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20091016 23:18:23< Ivanovic> (IIRC the main textdomain has plurals)
20091016 23:18:27< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: :(
20091016 23:18:30< Ivanovic> so copying aroung there is *not* easily done
20091016 23:18:37< Ivanovic> and it should *not* be done now
20091016 23:18:52< Ivanovic> in fact you should not *need* to copy around things atm since you are supposed to concentrate on fixing bugs
20091016 23:18:53< shadowmaster> okay, I guess I'll have to work on a local branch.
20091016 23:19:21< Ivanovic> since you listed no new features planned on your end (that is you listed this by not replying to the dev ml when i asked if any features are still open for 1.8)
20091016 23:20:05< shadowmaster> yes, since it is not a 1.8-critical feature and is not enabled by default.
20091016 23:20:37< shadowmaster> and re fixing bugs, most of them are in areas which I do not handle at all.
20091016 23:21:00< shadowmaster> that, or they are already assinged to someone else.
20091016 23:22:00< Ivanovic> if you want to work on something that is already assigned to someone, just ask that person if you can do it instead
20091016 23:22:13< Ivanovic> i'd guess that eg mordante would be glad about any help with bugs that he can get
20091016 23:23:10< shadowmaster> low-level GUI2 bugs?
20091016 23:23:39< Ivanovic> or anyone else that is
20091016 23:23:44< shadowmaster> wait.
20091016 23:23:52< shadowmaster> https://gna.org/bugs/?13779 should have been assigned to me, not mordante.
20091016 23:24:22< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: then, uhm, assign it to yourself
20091016 23:24:23< shadowmaster> although I wonder if it's still valid (1.7.0...)
20091016 23:24:49< shadowmaster> grzywacz: do you have more info?
20091016 23:25:56< shadowmaster> um, and why console commands are giving output like "^*debug* ^Debug mode activated!" now? :P
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20091016 23:32:13< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: oh? what's en@shaw?
20091016 23:32:33< shadowmaster> crimson_penguin: shawian script for the English translation.
20091016 23:32:52< crimson_penguin> what's that?
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20091016 23:33:12< shadowmaster> Arc would be glad to tell you :P
20091016 23:33:21< shadowmaster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw
20091016 23:33:22< Ivanovic> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet
20091016 23:33:44< Ivanovic> english transliterated into a phonetic charset
20091016 23:33:45< shadowmaster> argh,
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20091016 23:38:12< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: I guess you're right... here's what it does support though, in one font: Albanian, Arabic, Basque, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Catalan, Cornish, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Esperanto, Estonian, Faroese, Finnish, French, Galician, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Icelandic, Indonesian, Irish, Italian, Kalaallisut, Kazakh, Latvian, Lithuanian, Macedonian, Malay, Maltese, Manx, Norwegian Bokmål, Norwegian Nynors
20091016 23:38:12< crimson_penguin> Oromo, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, Somali, Spanish, Swahili, Swedish, Turkish, Uzbek, Vietnamese, Welsh
20091016 23:40:52< Ivanovic> no chinese/japanese?
20091016 23:40:54< Ivanovic> ;)
20091016 23:41:33< crimson_penguin> hmmmm... I don't see it there, but it works
20091016 23:43:58< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: sorry, I was looking at regular Arial, here's the real list: Afrikaans, Albanian, Arabic, Azerbaijani, Basque, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Catalan, Chinese, Cornish, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Esperanto, Estonian, Faroese, Finnish, French, Galician, German, Greek, Hawaiian, Hebrew, Hungarian, Icelandic, Indonesian, Irish, Italian, Japanese, Kalaallisut, Kazakh, Korean, Latvian, Lithuanian, Macedonian, Malay, M
20091016 23:43:58< crimson_penguin> Manx, Norwegian Bokmål, Norwegian Nynorsk, Oromo, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, Somali, Spanish, Swahili, Swedish, Turkish, Ukrainian, Urdu, Uzbek, Vietnamese, Welsh
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