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20091001 00:35:05< ancestral> Alright. I need replays. Anybody have some awesome games on the server?
20091001 00:35:16< ancestral> *had
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20091001 00:45:38< _aD> as I predicted, that time around went excellently
20091001 00:45:48< _aD> I'd be a fantastic general half the time.
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20091001 01:12:04< Aethaeryn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Samoa_earthquake
20091001 01:12:29< Aethaeryn> I really hope that this didn't raise R'lyeh again... otherwise we're all screwed.
20091001 01:12:45< _aD> Speak for yourself; I have a cupboard under my stairs.
20091001 01:13:09-!- mode/#wesnoth [-ob+b Shadow_Master %*!*@85.175.80.202 %*!?=gsconst@85.175.*] by Shadow_Master
20091001 01:14:26< Aethaeryn> Of course, I do know the one way to stop Cthulhu... an innovative and effective way.
20091001 01:14:32< _aD> Hire a @
20091001 01:14:48< Aethaeryn> No... It goes kinda like this:
20091001 01:15:04< Aethaeryn> (1) Track down the Necronomicon...
20091001 01:15:16< _aD> that's easy, it's on an AA road map I have here
20091001 01:15:26< Shadow_Master> (2) ????
20091001 01:15:26< Aethaeryn> (2) Translate it from the Latin (or Greek if the earlier edition) and find the appropriate spell.
20091001 01:15:36< _aD> Google is our friend.
20091001 01:15:39< Aethaeryn> (3) Summon something far more worse and deadly than Cthulhu somewhere near where Cthulhu is.
20091001 01:15:49< _aD> So...Chuck Norris
20091001 01:15:54< Shadow_Master> (4) send Aethaeryn to a volcano island
20091001 01:15:56< _aD> I agree. Innovative and effective.
20091001 01:16:01< Shadow_Master> (5) profit!
20091001 01:16:12< _aD> I'm liking the capitalist angle, though
20091001 01:16:16< Aethaeryn> < _aD> So...Chuck Norris <- I was talking about Turuk, actually.
20091001 01:16:31< _aD> Chuck Norris kicked his ass the only time they met
20091001 01:16:42< _aD> Turuk made an off-cuff remark about Chuck's third guniea pig
20091001 01:16:50< _aD> Let's just say he wont' be making THAT mistake again
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20091001 01:18:04< Shadow_Master> _aD: you don't know turuk, do you?
20091001 01:18:09< Aethaeryn> Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Turuk Wesnoth wgah'nagl fhtagn.
20091001 01:19:08< _aD> All I know is that he's not Chuck Norris, hence he cannot beat him
20091001 01:19:41< Aethaeryn> _aD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Showdown_of_Ultimate_Destiny
20091001 01:19:59< Aethaeryn> Chuck Norris was defeated.
20091001 01:20:25< _aD> According to Wikipedia.
20091001 01:20:30< _aD> Next on Channel nine: Pigs fly!
20091001 01:21:18< Aethaeryn> "Then Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White and / "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"'s Black Knight and / Benito Mussolini and The Blue Meanie and / Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie / Robocop, the Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader / Lo Pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger / Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan, / Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan / All came out of no where lightning fast / And they kicked Chuck No
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20091001 01:21:53< _aD> haha they even shoe-horned Bill and Ted in there
20091001 01:21:56< Aethaeryn> "...And they kicked Chuck Norris in his cowboy ass"
20091001 01:22:05< Aethaeryn> But yes, it doesn't actually state that he died.
20091001 01:22:15< Aethaeryn> But Mr. Rodgers wins.
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20091001 01:22:59< _aD> We're going off-topic here
20091001 01:23:06< _aD> When do you plan on implementing this plan?
20091001 01:29:14< Aethaeryn> _aD: As soon as Cthulhu rises up from the sunken city of R'lyeh...
20091001 01:29:25< Aethaeryn> I'm pretty sure there's a summon Turuk spell in the Necronomicon.
20091001 01:29:44< _aD> "Ooook"
20091001 01:29:49< _aD> Wait, wrong genre
20091001 01:31:43< _aD> I tell you what
20091001 01:31:48< _aD> I'ma head off to bed, but
20091001 01:31:59< _aD> I'll loan you my inflatable hammer, just in case your plan faulters
20091001 01:32:22< Aethaeryn> Eh, you forget that the genre is cosmic horror.
20091001 01:32:28< Aethaeryn> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CosmicHorrorStory
20091001 01:32:48< Aethaeryn> Note "#  Is the tone of the work extremely cynical about the likelihood of ever defeating the antagonist completely? "
20091001 01:32:51< _aD> I saw cosmic horror today when Vista SP1 killed a customer's computer
20091001 01:32:59< Aethaeryn> lol.... wait a minute.
20091001 01:33:05< Aethaeryn> Let's apply Microsoft to this checklist.
20091001 01:33:10< _aD> A minute? it took all frickin' day
20091001 01:33:34< _aD> No, apply OEMs who supply Vista with 1GB RAM, shared graphics with Aero enabled
20091001 01:33:38< _aD> And then fill it with crud
20091001 01:33:46< Aethaeryn> "Is the antagonist evil or uncaring on a cosmic scale? We're talking a Big Bad who is capable of destroying the the universe, the world, humanity, or all three." <- Yes. It's very evil, and doesn't care about anything except profit. Its products are arguably getting worse, except when they need to adapt to stay in business. Typical big business.
20091001 01:33:59< _aD> Yar
20091001 01:34:03< _aD> Can't see the wood for the trees
20091001 01:34:05< Aethaeryn> "#  Is the attitude of the antagonist towards humanity disregard, simple pragmatism, or incidental hatred? (A godlike antagonist that actively hates humanity and its works is more in line with Rage Against The Heavens or God Is Evil.) " <- Simple pragmatism. Profit.
20091001 01:34:14< _aD> Wait, you're not going to throw a Win7 launch party?
20091001 01:34:35< _aD> I thought human suffering wrought by Microsoft was incidental
20091001 01:34:35< Aethaeryn> #  Are the antagonist or his minions so alien in appearance that simply seeing him is sufficient to drive a human to madness? Are they Eldritch Abominations?  <- Arguable. If not the people themselves, their products surely are sufficient to drive a human into madness.
20091001 01:34:50< Aethaeryn> Some would call Windows an Eldritch Abomination.
20091001 01:34:55< _aD> I've seen inside the HKEY_CLASSES registry hive
20091001 01:35:01< _aD> I'd consider it an abomination before any
20091001 01:35:16< Aethaeryn> #  Are the antagonist or his minions indescribable — literally? Lines like "I cannot find the words to describe the vile thing I saw..." are a hallmark of Cosmic Horror Stories. <- This might be the one it doesn't pass, but you only have to pass most of the criterea.
20091001 01:35:24< Shadow_Master> _aD: it's not so bad.
20091001 01:35:26< Aethaeryn> #  Is the tone of the work extremely cynical about the likelihood of ever defeating the antagonist completely?  <- No, we'll never defeat Microsoft.
20091001 01:35:45< _aD> Some of the services are inexplicable. I dunno about indescribable.
20091001 01:35:56< _aD> Shadow_Master: yeah I know, it's fun to poke it though
20091001 01:36:02< Shadow_Master> _aD: on the other hand, it explains why windows setup takes longer to setup already installed files than anything else
20091001 01:36:11< Aethaeryn> _aD: 4 out of 5 isn't bad.
20091001 01:36:29< _aD> agreed
20091001 01:37:08< Aethaeryn> Microsoft/Windows/IE/etc. is: (1) Evil and uncaring on a cosmic scale. (2) against mankind due to simple pragmatism, (3) an abomination that drives many humans into madness, and (5) probably never able to be defeated completely.
20091001 01:37:20< Aethaeryn> And therefore Cosmic Horror 
20091001 01:37:30 * _aD closes the book
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20091001 01:37:39< _aD> THat's enough bedtime stories, kids
20091001 01:37:51< Aethaeryn> Bill Gates probably got his code from the Necronomicon
20091001 01:38:03< Shadow_Master> may the gods save us from Aethaeryn's rants.
20091001 01:38:22< _aD> I think the Neconomicon is the result of all the memory data that wouldn't fit into 640k
20091001 01:38:27< Aethaeryn> Gateslhu fhtagn.
20091001 01:38:33< _aD> Shadow_Master: you already saved us from George
20091001 01:38:38< _aD> You're my saviour
20091001 01:38:46< Aethaeryn> Shadow_Master: Eh, I was about on par with _aD the whole time in the chat. :P
20091001 01:39:01< _aD> although my chat with him about the USB CD drive was previous
20091001 01:39:08< Aethaeryn> It's only an Aethaeryn rant if I take up > 6 lines in a row without any responses. About 1:1 isn't a rant.
20091001 01:39:26< _aD> It's a heated discussion between two raving lunatics.
20091001 01:39:35< Shadow_Master> Gates didn't even do all of the Windows or Windows NT core programing. I can't stand when people go all ranty about Microsoft in a channel that's not for that purpose :)
20091001 01:39:54< _aD> he's a scapegoat
20091001 01:39:57< _aD> I like Windows
20091001 01:40:07< _aD> I think Vista is their best OS yet and imagine Win7 will buidl on that
20091001 01:40:09< VurtualRuler98> Microsoft and windows are fine.
20091001 01:40:10< VurtualRuler98> IE isn't.
20091001 01:40:16< _aD> Aye, true dat
20091001 01:40:22< _aD> Office is nasty, I'll admit
20091001 01:40:24< Shadow_Master> I don't like Windows, but I'd not recommend a newbie to use Linux.
20091001 01:40:51< Shadow_Master> maybe an Apple, but I don't use their stuff.
20091001 01:40:51< VurtualRuler98> I would.
20091001 01:41:04< _aD> I understand Apples to be rather good for newbies
20091001 01:41:13< VurtualRuler98> Unless they're not just the person who uses whatever default browser by instinct to look up the most boring things.
20091001 01:41:28< Aethaeryn> Shadow_Master: Linux is just as easy as Windows (in a machine designed for use, not one with driver problems) if preinstalled like Windows. The issue relies on what people are used to.
20091001 01:41:29< _aD> So, if they're not 90% of Internet users
20091001 01:41:55< Aethaeryn> Shadow_Master: I find Linux far less frustrating, far more intuitive, and far less time consuming to work with than Windows Vista, but that's because I switched from Windows years ago and have been mostly using Linux since then.
20091001 01:42:00< Aethaeryn> You like what you're used to.
20091001 01:42:06< _aD> Aye
20091001 01:42:36< Shadow_Master> uh.
20091001 01:42:46< VurtualRuler98> Aethaeryn: I use both constantly.
20091001 01:43:05< VurtualRuler98> The only major differences that aren't what runs are how often I type my password.
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20091001 01:43:43< _aD> Aethaeryn, may you always find shade and water
20091001 01:43:44< _aD> night folks
20091001 01:44:16< Aethaeryn> VurtualRuler98: The major difference is philosophical.
20091001 01:44:34< Aethaeryn> I become increasingly anti-proprietary the more I see how a new medium (smart phones and cell phones in general) are developing
20091001 01:44:53< Aethaeryn> They're the most locked down things on the planet. My new phone has literally its first page of bookmarks as things I'll never use that are undeleteable.
20091001 01:45:02< VurtualRuler98> Soon you'll just be a glorified hippie.
20091001 01:45:06< Aethaeryn> My aunt's new phone (very basic) has something similar for the contacts list.
20091001 01:45:07< Shadow_Master> if you use plain su or don't allow sudo to remember your password, then superuser privilege-requiring actions are as tedious in Windows Vista+ as in Linux.
20091001 01:45:12< Aethaeryn> It's about freedom.
20091001 01:45:18< Shadow_Master> unless you start a root shell/login as root in either
20091001 01:46:18< Aethaeryn> Shadow_Master: If you type at over 100 Words Per Minute, it'll be a lot easier to type "su - <enter> password <enter>" while in the command line before your command rather than having to click CONFIRM as it greys out your whole screen while doing something else
20091001 01:46:19< Shadow_Master> (was that what you meant with how often you type your password?)
20091001 01:46:35< Shadow_Master> Aethaeryn: that's not a valid point.
20091001 01:46:46< Aethaeryn> It's not. I'm an exception, not a rule.
20091001 01:46:56< Shadow_Master> you can still use keyboard shortcuts on a windows dialog box
20091001 01:47:10< Aethaeryn> Still, text-oriented configuration *is* preferrable to GUI configuration for someone such as myself.
20091001 01:47:13< Shadow_Master> unless, of course, you never learned that windows has keyboard shortcuts in the first place
20091001 01:48:01< Aethaeryn> And keyboard shortcuts != typing commands. If you're a proper typist, that doesn't mean you're going to be able to type ctrl+alt+a+f+x+~ properly. You'll have to find all those keys.
20091001 01:48:16< Shadow_Master> nonetheless, it all reduces to: comparing Windows and Linux is like comparing an earthworm to a cookie
20091001 01:49:10< Shadow_Master> because neither was supposed to be like the other (Linux was a Unix clone or sorts, mind you, while Windows only has some minimal Unix characteristics to ease programmers' lives, and still fails at that for not implementing some nice stuff completely, e.g. ISO C99)
20091001 01:50:01< VurtualRuler98> Nah.
20091001 01:50:02< Aethaeryn> Shadow_Master: Technically, Linux has a large portion of its environment borrowed from the never-going-to-come GNU operating system.
20091001 01:50:07< VurtualRuler98> It's like comparing Ken and Ryu.
20091001 01:50:19< Shadow_Master> Aethaeryn: I was talking about the kernel.
20091001 01:50:25< VurtualRuler98> Ryu is more popular, and widely regarded as the main character, but Ken has his merits and fans.
20091001 01:50:35< Shadow_Master> well, of course the GNU operating system was also supposed to be a Unix clone of sorts (despite the name)
20091001 01:50:58< Shadow_Master> and also a whole new thing on its own.
20091001 01:51:03< VurtualRuler98> And "smart" people insult you for using Ryu.
20091001 01:51:17< Shadow_Master> Still not comparable to Windows in design because they are so much damn different.
20091001 01:51:35< Aethaeryn> True, but I think that GNU was supposed to be more of a general purpose replacement for proprietary.
20091001 01:51:43< Shadow_Master> proprietary Unixes.
20091001 01:51:45< Aethaeryn> It's just not comparable to Windows because it started before Windows was the thing to replace.
20091001 01:52:01< Shadow_Master> proprietary or not-completely-free Unix clones back in the time.
20091001 01:52:45< Aethaeryn> yes
20091001 01:52:50< Aethaeryn> g2g, sorry for the suddenness
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20091001 01:54:17< VurtualRuler98> Life is always better with 2 eerily similar objects.
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20091001 04:19:02< Aethaeryn> Zarel: hey
20091001 04:19:08< Zarel> Ello.
20091001 04:19:25< Aethaeryn> Zarel: Anything new?
20091001 04:19:42< Zarel> Well, I'm a bit busier.
20091001 04:19:48< Zarel> I can show you what I have so far.
20091001 04:20:54< Aethaeryn> Understandable.
20091001 04:21:24< Zarel> http://imagebin.ca/view/TsU-v8fU.html
20091001 04:21:36< Zarel> I probably won't be able to go further than that in the near future.
20091001 04:25:30< Aethaeryn> Zarel: cool progress
20091001 04:25:47< Aethaeryn> the engine on the right (from our perspective) wing looks a bit closer to the center though
20091001 04:27:04< Zarel> Part of it's that the wings are tilted down.
20091001 04:27:10< Zarel> But it's hard to see without shading.
20091001 04:28:48< Aethaeryn> Maybe narrow the right side if it doesn't look right
20091001 04:29:04< Aethaeryn> But really, my philosophy for spriting is "if it doesn't look right, tweak it" which is why I still haven't published the arcanist...
20091001 04:29:09< Aethaeryn> Haven't had time
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20091001 04:36:54< ancestral> Work in Progress, but yeah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=050AzSCWSZ4
20091001 04:47:22< gtsteel> WOW, great first half!
20091001 04:47:48< gtsteel> I look forward to seeing the whole thing
20091001 04:49:11< Zarel> I'd watch it, but I don't have much battery left. :/
20091001 04:49:52< gtsteel> it's onbly 45 seconds
20091001 04:50:04< gtsteel> s/onbly/only/
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20091001 04:54:52< ancestral> Yeah needs more content, and DDR points out I've got some timing to work with
20091001 05:00:13< Zarel> Ah, well, I don't have headphones yet, so I'll just wait a bit.
20091001 05:00:15< gtsteel> It's still great, but it should have an ending and go the length of the song.
20091001 05:00:40< ancestral> Well, the whole music track I have already
20091001 05:00:52< ancestral> http://mproud.com/wesnoth/other/wesnoth-trailer-music.m4a
20091001 05:01:03< ancestral> It's actually three new tracks since 1.6
20091001 05:01:27< gtsteel> I only have 1.6
20091001 05:01:28< ancestral> Total time: 1:30.
20091001 05:01:48< gtsteel> fetching now
20091001 05:01:50< ancestral> gsteel: Then you'll like this trailer when I'm done! :D
20091001 05:02:08< ancestral> The goal is to have it ready by when 1.8 is released
20091001 05:03:19< gtsteel> what wideo editor are you using?
20091001 05:03:59< ancestral> I'm doing this in Keynote
20091001 05:04:02< gtsteel> great music The finale is perfect to end the trailer on
20091001 05:05:20< ancestral> Thanks
20091001 05:05:33< gtsteel> I have to go now, bye
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20091001 14:11:27< Ken_Oh> if anyone is around, i'm getting this error, and i'm not quite sure what it means
20091001 14:11:29< Ken_Oh> error engine: variable_info: index greater than 65536, truncated
20091001 14:11:54< Ken_Oh> not stopping the game, but it's showing up a bunch in stderr
20091001 14:20:04< zookeeper> well, trying to use an array index larger than that or something?
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20091001 14:40:57< Ken_Oh> not that i can see. the save file doesn't have a large array or anything.
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20091001 18:58:12< Nayela> Either I am really, really bad at Wesnoth or this scenario is a -lot- harder than it makes out/is supposed to be
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20091001 19:01:34< _aD> Which scenario?
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20091001 19:07:12< Nayela> Muff Malal's Peninsula...
20091001 19:07:20< Nayela> >.> On easy
20091001 19:07:33< _aD> I just completed that on normal
20091001 19:07:37< _aD> where did you come unstuck?
20091001 19:07:39 * Nayela wishes it to be known she's only been playing for a week or so
20091001 19:07:45< Nayela> :P
20091001 19:07:49 * _aD nods, I've done that one three times now I think
20091001 19:08:04< _aD> FIghting the orcs or the undead?
20091001 19:08:13< Nayela> I can't get to his castle in time, with strong enough units to kill him
20091001 19:08:14< Nayela> Undead
20091001 19:08:29< Nayela> And he seems to have 23 income on his castle, how it that fair >.<
20091001 19:08:33< _aD> Hmm how many units did you take with you to begin with?
20091001 19:08:44< _aD> Ah yeah eat that up pretty quick once you head north, with a few horseys
20091001 19:09:04< Nayela> I mean, with 0 villages he still has 23 income
20091001 19:09:24< _aD> His pension I assume
20091001 19:09:26< _aD> He's getting on
20091001 19:09:28 * Nayela giggles
20091001 19:09:42< _aD> I failed miserably my first attempt as I was too hot-heated
20091001 19:09:50< _aD> headed*
20091001 19:09:52< Nayela> The dialogue seems to hint that it will be an easy level that you can use to level some units
20091001 19:10:02< _aD> oh sorry I'm thinking the wrong level
20091001 19:10:09< _aD> hmm yes it should be easy
20091001 19:10:18< _aD> Are you using terrain advantages much?
20091001 19:10:23< Nayela> I've tried to play conservative and full offensive but I still seem to lose -.-
20091001 19:10:29< Nayela> I try to use them when I can
20091001 19:10:38< _aD> and the time of day?
20091001 19:11:09< _aD> I think I went there with 3 lv2 healers, and a few captains
20091001 19:11:13< Nayela> I press forward during the day but I don't know how to get out of the way during the night
20091001 19:11:28< Nayela> Without taking out the ability to go forward again
20091001 19:11:41< _aD> Well if you have a strong line and terrain you can just hold and be conservative in your attacks
20091001 19:11:54< Nayela> He spams the battlefield with Walking Corpses which makes it very hard to get to the castle >.<
20091001 19:12:02< _aD> want to DCC a save game over?
20091001 19:12:25< Soliton> you know you can just run down the road to finish the scenario?
20091001 19:12:34< _aD> that should be pretty much a walkover, assuming the previous levels haven't been too difficult
20091001 19:12:55< Nayela> It might just be me, I always seem to be pressed to finish the levels in time
20091001 19:13:27< Nayela> I narrowly finished Bay of Pearls and don't find much chance to level units
20091001 19:13:42< _aD> I lost loads of mermen there :-/
20091001 19:13:55< _aD> saved five though, and they mostly got a level up
20091001 19:14:02< Nayela> Soliton, I know, I just wanted to use the level to gain experience like the dialogue hints
20091001 19:14:05< _aD> you shoulda tried playing Bay of Peals a few years back, damn
20091001 19:14:12< Nayela> I didn't get a single merman to level on BoP >.<
20091001 19:14:18< Nayela> Not even close
20091001 19:14:34< Soliton> i suppose we could disallow recruiting adepts on easy.
20091001 19:14:37< _aD> Maybe easy difficulty causes fewer enemy units
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20091001 19:15:09< Nayela> The Adepts are definitely the biggest nuisance as they hit hard and often, especially at night
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20091001 19:16:02< Soliton> zookeeper: ^
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20091001 19:29:02< Nayela> As I said, it might just be my poor playing :P
20091001 19:29:48< Soliton> well, of course, but it's easy. ;-)
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20091001 19:49:37< zookeeper> Nayela, how many adepts did he have?
20091001 19:49:58< zookeeper> i'll rather limit the amount of adepts he can have on easy than remove them altogether
20091001 19:51:29< _aD> I don't remember any when I played Medium the other day
20091001 19:52:11 * _aD will re-load and see
20091001 19:53:43< Nayela> zookeeper, he would get 1 or 2 every other turn
20091001 19:53:56< Nayela> It actually seemed to depend more on if I recalled a lot of level 2's or not
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20091001 19:56:42< _aD> I've had 2 adepts spawn in three turns
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20091001 20:02:11< _aD> wow this adept sucks, he has no melee attack at all
20091001 20:06:39< Soliton> it's the most effective undead unit.
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20091001 20:10:57< Nayela> I was just reading about it on the wiki and it says about leveling Konrad :-\
20091001 20:11:16< Nayela> He normally only leaves his place to capture a nearby village when I play :P
20091001 20:12:04< _aD> I know he *looks* like a nancy boy
20091001 20:12:09< Soliton> you should try to judge when you recruited/recalled enough and then bring him to the fight as well.
20091001 20:12:17< _aD> But the other kids will never stop picking on him if he stays a wimp ;-)
20091001 20:12:39 * Nayela giggles
20091001 20:12:45< Nayela> A good point _aD 
20091001 20:12:50< Nayela> And I shall keep that in mind Soliton 
20091001 20:13:20< _aD> he's better than comparable lv2 folk, too
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20091001 20:17:52< _aD> right I completed it in 12 turns, he summoned 3 Adepts
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20091001 20:18:11< _aD> they all perished as soon as they were engaged, by a knight twice and a captain
20091001 20:18:14< _aD> (both lv2s)
20091001 20:18:23< _aD> I had 17 units, about 2/3 of them lv2
20091001 20:18:34 * Nayela stares blankly at _aD 
20091001 20:18:37< _aD> and it was pretty much a pushover, only had to retreat about five units in the whole battle
20091001 20:18:42< _aD> so it really does sound off.
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20091001 20:19:06< _aD> have you got a save file you can send me?
20091001 20:20:05< Nayela> I've played that scenario about 7 times today trying to "get it right" so they will have been overwritten by my latest attempt
20091001 20:20:46< Nayela> The last one was my 'recruit as many scouts as possible and charge' tactic
20091001 20:21:05< _aD> what about the autosave from the beginning of the level?
20091001 20:21:16< Nayela> Yeah, I can send you that
20091001 20:23:15< _aD> doh. hold on gotta backup this laptop then I'll fix dcc
20091001 20:23:23< Nayela> Okies
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20091001 20:25:52< [Relic]> Hello :)
20091001 20:27:17< _aD> grr, stupid broken Server service in Vista
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20091001 20:30:47< Nayela> Is the resources thing in World Conquest specific to that addon or do you get it elsewhere?
20091001 20:30:57< zookeeper> Nayela, well, would it have been manageable enough if he could only have for example 2 adepts at any given time?
20091001 20:31:16< zookeeper> (kill one and he might get another one, but no more than 2 at once)
20091001 20:31:44< Nayela> That's pretty much how he seems to behave now
20091001 20:32:53< Soliton> i'd even go with 1 at a time.
20091001 20:33:24< Soliton> if the two are together they can easily kill any level 1 with a bit of luck.
20091001 20:33:26< zookeeper> fine, 1 then
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20091001 20:37:07< Nayela> It'd be cool to be able to play HttT in co-op..
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20091001 20:39:26< Nayela> It would have probably been easier if I gotten the trident in BoP..
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20091001 20:55:08< _aD> Nayela: want to re-try the file sending?
20091001 20:55:34< _aD> Also, what version of Wesnoth are you using?
20091001 20:56:14< Nayela> 1.6.5
20091001 20:56:30< _aD> righto, I was on 1.7.5 I'll download that version
20091001 20:58:50< Nayela> I.. somehow managed to delete it
20091001 20:58:58< Nayela> :-\
20091001 20:59:02 * _aD hands you a facepalm
20091001 20:59:07< Nayela> Why, thank you
20091001 20:59:14< _aD> You put it here *points
20091001 20:59:57 * Nayela proceeds to self-apply facepalm
20091001 21:00:16< _aD> Nicely planted. I see you're learned in this.
20091001 21:00:26< Nayela> Does gzip delete the original file?
20091001 21:00:41< Nayela> >.> First time, honest
20091001 21:00:44< _aD> I wouldn't have thought so, by default
20091001 21:00:47 * Nayela shuffles
20091001 21:00:56< _aD> Compression folks are haughty about data preservation
20091001 21:01:30< Nayela> I mean, during decompression
20091001 21:01:46< Nayela> I wanted to have a look at the content of the save-file
20091001 21:01:47< Soliton> yes, gzip deletes the input file.
20091001 21:01:51< Nayela> >.<
20091001 21:01:55< Nayela> Whoops?
20091001 21:01:58< _aD> Curiosity killed the central directory!
20091001 21:02:22< _aD> Zip it up and hope no-one saw you.
20091001 21:02:35< _aD> wait, that's what the policeman said
20091001 21:02:39< Nayela> :-\
20091001 21:02:48 * Nayela gives _aD some pills
20091001 21:02:52< Nayela> Forget something?
20091001 21:02:59< _aD> GRABBIN' PILLS!
20091001 21:03:25< _aD> I thought I'd escape L4D references in the channel of such a sanguine game
20091001 21:04:49< Nayela> Ooo preeeettttyyy
20091001 21:04:56< _aD> btw I've had no problems with the dev versions
20091001 21:05:02 * Nayela just saw Elven Sorceress attack
20091001 21:05:03< _aD> it may be fixed there
20091001 21:05:13< Nayela> Okies :-)
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20091001 21:07:45 * Nayela has a plan
20091001 21:07:59< Nayela> Is it dastardly? Some may say so
20091001 21:08:02< Nayela> :-)
20091001 21:08:08 * _aD plays muttley.wav
20091001 21:08:47< Nayela> Thank you
20091001 21:08:48< Nayela> :P
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20091001 21:42:00< _aD> this time I really, really will try and keep the theives alive
20091001 21:42:33< VurtualRuler98> What if EA uses some evil superpower to buy out wesnoth? Then you'll be arrested for harboring criminals.
20091001 21:43:53< _aD> They won't see them, they'll be hiding under cover of darkness
20091001 21:43:58< _aD> Besides, both are backstabbers
20091001 21:44:09< VurtualRuler98> But they'll be policemen from the future. They'll have lasers and stuff.
20091001 21:44:33< _aD> It's the stuff I'm worried about
20091001 21:46:47< _aD> wow
20091001 21:46:56< _aD> Kalenz's faerie fire is spectacular
20091001 21:47:13< _aD> So much so he doesn't mind using a magic power that sounds feminine
20091001 21:47:22< _aD> he can sit next to that tyke Konrad
20091001 21:47:56< _aD> Delfardor's lightning is pretty awe-inspiring too
20091001 21:48:11< Nayela> Is this stuff in the new dev version?
20091001 21:48:18< _aD> um good question
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20091001 21:48:30< _aD> It went whooshCRASHcrackle
20091001 21:48:37< _aD> x4, then the troll whelp was no more
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20091001 21:48:46< Nayela> :D
20091001 21:48:46< _aD> 1.7.6 has extra purdy colours in the UI
20091001 21:48:57< Nayela> The troll whelp got smoted
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20091001 21:49:05< _aD> also, I've discovered wheel scrolling
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20091001 21:53:48< _aD> hmm 1.7.6 definitely has periods where it's thinking
20091001 21:53:54< _aD> at the beginning of an NPC turn
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20091001 21:59:15< Nayela> Anyone here familiar with Wesband?
20091001 21:59:29< _aD> surely not a mix of Angand and Wesnoth
20091001 21:59:58< _aD> darn, ambush killed delfador ;'-(
20091001 22:00:22< Nayela> ?
20091001 22:00:38< _aD> he was retreating for a rest in a nearby village
20091001 22:00:47< _aD> but the enemy was supplanted in a nearby forest
20091001 22:01:54< Nayela> Not good >.<
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20091001 23:29:05< _aD> hmm turn 9 on Crossroads and I'm in a position to win already
20091001 23:29:23< _aD> has been much easier than the other missions in the campaign
20091001 23:30:55< _aD> must play and not analyse
20091001 23:41:29< _aD> hmm actually I over-killed on the units, -30 gold now
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20091001 23:59:47< Nayela> Out of curiosity, do you think replays for the HttT campaign might exist somewhere?
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