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20091004 03:47:01< asdf_> hi guys, is the main server working for you guys?
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20091004 07:50:40< meowreka> hi
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20091004 07:58:58< meowreka1> hello everyone
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20091004 09:51:04< rsk> hello a selected few
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20091004 11:16:27< Ivanovic> moin
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20091004 13:03:40< _aD> Hmm, Valley of Death early finish bonus: kill all three lich commanders
20091004 13:03:43< _aD> in 12 turns?!
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20091004 13:36:57< Ivanovic> _aD: on easy you don't have to last this long
20091004 13:37:09< Ivanovic> IIRC on medium it is already 15 turns you have to survive
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20091004 16:19:27< Woodmouse> My computer broke, but it's fixed now
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20091004 17:17:04< _aD> welcome back, Woodmouse
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20091004 17:17:51< meowreka> boo.
20091004 17:19:14< _aD> Ahoy
20091004 17:19:22< meowreka> hi guy
20091004 17:19:38< meowreka> why does nobody in the world play 1.7.6
20091004 17:19:45 * _aD does
20091004 17:19:48 * _aD did today
20091004 17:20:12< meowreka> I've been trying to find people to help me test my new era
20091004 17:20:18< meowreka> and I don't want to downgrade it to 1.6.5
20091004 17:20:59< _aD> I'll play after I've roasted and eaten this bird
20091004 17:21:09< meowreka> is it a dirty bird
20091004 17:21:14< _aD> Well it's raw
20091004 17:21:19< _aD> So, I will treat it as dirty
20091004 17:21:31< _aD> And after rubbing in oil, salt and pepper, it certainly won't be clean ;-)
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20091004 17:28:23< blarumyrran> http://users.physik.fu-berlin.de/~goerz/refcards/ascii.png - the sign here numbered 21b, what is it called in english?
20091004 17:28:52< blarumyrran> (i thought paragraph sign, but thats something else apparently)
20091004 17:31:20< blarumyrran> nvm, found it
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20091004 17:41:32< _aD> meowreka: Where can I download your era?
20091004 17:41:54< _aD> the bird is in the roost, alpha base, repeat, the bird is in the roost
20091004 17:41:55< _aD> wait, roast even
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20091004 17:46:48< meowreka> woah
20091004 17:46:48< meowreka> hi
20091004 17:47:02< meowreka> my era is on the add-on server, in 1.7.6
20091004 17:47:14< _aD> Oh I gotta work for my new era eh eh? ;-)
20091004 17:47:17 * _aD fires it up
20091004 17:47:19< meowreka> it's just called "era of guilds"
20091004 17:48:04< meowreka> I'm sitting around in wesnoth alternate 2
20091004 17:48:54< _aD> official server?
20091004 17:49:02< _aD> I'm a bit lost, never done mulitplayer before
20091004 17:49:20< meowreka> huh
20091004 17:49:26< meowreka> go to "connect to server"
20091004 17:49:31< meowreka> then go to "view list"
20091004 17:49:39< _aD> ahh OK
20091004 17:49:58< meowreka> wesnoth2
20091004 17:49:59< blarumyrran> You have an era, but you have never done multiplayer? o_O
20091004 17:50:07< meowreka> *I* have an era
20091004 17:50:24< _aD> whee
20091004 17:50:28< meowreka> leave that game
20091004 17:50:33< meowreka> that's not a good game to be in
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20091004 18:15:19< meowreka> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27345&p=388068
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20091004 18:32:09< blarumyrran> "Elvish wolf"?
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20091004 18:33:56< blarumyrran> how about Wolvish dwarf
20091004 18:36:27< _aD> Or a Forest Wolf
20091004 18:36:30< _aD> Tiber wold?
20091004 18:37:14< blarumyrran> "Tiber world"?
20091004 18:37:58< _aD> :-P
20091004 18:38:21< blarumyrran> I googled it and didnt see anything come up
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20091004 18:45:35< ldlework> Omg the Princess is a bitch!
20091004 18:46:09< blarumyrran> Sure but Konrad is a hamster
20091004 18:46:33< _aD> Did she set upon you too?
20091004 18:46:35< _aD> I saw it coming
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20091004 18:49:57< ldlework> These reinforcements are kicking my hamster ass
20091004 18:50:08< _aD> I used the river to drown her foolish troops
20091004 18:50:13< blarumyrran> Stop being a hamster then
20091004 18:50:18< blarumyrran> and :create a yeti
20091004 18:50:29< _aD> Yeah, good point. Gerbils are more aggresive
20091004 18:53:54< blarumyrran> As of August 19, 2003, officials in western China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region began releasing eagles to combat the damage they say the great gerbils have done to eleven million acres (46,000 km²) of grassland.
20091004 18:54:06< blarumyrran> says wikipedia
20091004 18:54:25< blarumyrran> So you should download whatever-era-it-is-that-has-kalifa-in-it and :create some falcons for lisar too
20091004 18:54:31< blarumyrran> If you are going for gerbils
20091004 18:56:09 * _aD nods sombrely
20091004 18:56:13< _aD> Yeeeeap. Gerbils.
20091004 18:56:32< Tomsik> Nay, you need wombats
20091004 18:56:41 * _aD spits out his coffee
20091004 18:56:42< Tomsik> They are the heavy cavalry in rodent kingdom
20091004 18:56:43< blarumyrran> You need doombats
20091004 18:56:53< _aD> Now where'd you gown got strange ideas like thaat from, laddie?
20091004 18:57:10< blarumyrran> Id be damned
20091004 18:57:21< blarumyrran> The level2 of bats is Dread Bat not Doombat
20091004 18:57:24< Tomsik> Think about it, why else would people need wombat boots
20091004 18:57:48< _aD> To walk over the sea of wombat corpses during the Great Gerbil Slaughter of '89
20091004 18:58:36< _aD> Don't you read history?!
20091004 18:58:56< _aD> I lost three of my arms and six feet that week
20091004 18:59:17< Tomsik> I don't think you get my point, wombat boots are real
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20091004 18:59:30< Tomsik> These are boots that can withstand attack of a wombat
20091004 18:59:32< _aD> Hehehe, you're assuming i have a point other than random rambling
20091004 18:59:41< Tomsik> Have you seen gerbil boots?
20091004 18:59:43< _aD> LOL! Speak of random rambling and he shall appear
20091004 18:59:50< _aD> Hail to you, Aethaeryn
20091004 18:59:55< Aethaeryn> < Tomsik> These are boots that can withstand attack of a wombat <- quite a line to walk in on... :P
20091004 19:00:02< _aD> THat's the least of it
20091004 19:00:07< blarumyrran> he was talking about you, Aethaeryn
20091004 19:00:25< Tomsik> blarumyrran: you had to say that :(
20091004 19:00:37< _aD> It's OK, we've got the boots to protect us
20091004 19:00:56< Tomsik> Though, what does it mean to be a wombat?
20091004 19:01:03< _aD> I definitely need an oven thermometer
20091004 19:01:09< _aD> Ask Altavista
20091004 19:01:13< blarumyrran> What does it wombat to mean a bee?
20091004 19:01:51< _aD> Tomsik: Those who ask cannot know. Those who know cannot tell.
20091004 19:02:01< Tomsik> Did you know that word "wombat" comes from the fact that women needed a baseball bat to drive these off the fields?
20091004 19:02:09< blarumyrran> I did not
20091004 19:02:28< _aD> Were they just referred to as before they had a name?
20091004 19:02:29< Tomsik> It was a verb at first
20091004 19:02:31< Aethaeryn> Tomsik: Not a cricket bat?
20091004 19:02:37< Tomsik> "to wombat that damn rodent"
20091004 19:02:37< _aD> To wombat, or not to womabt
20091004 19:02:37< blarumyrran> I thought it was a scream of agony the moment before a death in their jaws
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20091004 19:03:20< blarumyrran> How are you wombating this fine evening?
20091004 19:03:49< _aD> Plentifully, thank you.
20091004 19:04:13< Tomsik> Hm, other sources show the connection between "wom" in "wombat" and Polish word for crossbar, which sounds the same ("łom")
20091004 19:04:48< blarumyrran> Wombat is backwards for tabmow
20091004 19:05:30< blarumyrran> Also, if you change all letters in "Wombat" to u-s, you get uuuuuu
20091004 19:05:43< blarumyrran> It might be a secret message
20091004 19:06:58< _aD> jbzong is the answer
20091004 19:07:14< blarumyrran> Dont be silly
20091004 19:07:19< blarumyrran> That doesnt even mean anything
20091004 19:07:24< _aD> Oh contraire
20091004 19:11:29< Aethaeryn> blarumyrran: If you take out the wom and the at, and add larumyrran, it spells a secret message! :o
20091004 19:12:03< blarumyrran> Dude you know nothing of cryptography
20091004 19:12:20< blarumyrran> Ill stick to the u-s.
20091004 19:12:48< Aethaeryn> or... WOMBAT -> WOMAT -> WOMAN :o
20091004 19:12:50< grzywacz> Tomsik, you meant crowbar?
20091004 19:12:51< Aethaeryn> It's a conspiracy.
20091004 19:13:05< grzywacz> Womb At
20091004 19:13:14< Aethaeryn> :o
20091004 19:13:16< Tomsik> grzywacz: heh, not using English a lot recently
20091004 19:13:22< _aD> if I were you I'd be careful with that line of reasoning
20091004 19:13:30< grzywacz> Tomsik, but using crowbars a lot, I assume?
20091004 19:13:31< grzywacz> :p
20091004 19:14:01< Tomsik> Well, they are useful, right?
20091004 19:14:22< blarumyrran> For hitting headcrabs, ...no
20091004 19:15:15< Tomsik> Too much computer games, my friend.
20091004 19:15:19< Tomsik> too many, geez
20091004 19:16:07< blarumyrran> Well nobody would use crowbars in real life
20091004 19:16:38< blarumyrran> They are too heavy
20091004 19:18:22< Tomsik> That's nonsense
20091004 19:22:51< Aethaeryn> But how would they fight aliens, then?
20091004 19:23:03< Aethaeryn> Knives are overrated.
20091004 19:23:35< blarumyrran> Has someone in the history of science fiction won alien races with knives?
20091004 19:24:12< Aethaeryn> Well, knives are the alternate and more-often-used melee weapon in FPS games.
20091004 19:24:13< blarumyrran> "But we are only feeble primitive aliens who can only slowly cuddle enemies to death! We are defenseless!"
20091004 19:24:39< blarumyrran> I dont remember a fps with knives atm tbh
20091004 19:24:49< Tomsik> Well, if you mean a knife with a gun add-on
20091004 19:24:54< blarumyrran> Heretic has staff & gauntlets
20091004 19:24:55< Tomsik> Then it's not that rare
20091004 19:24:56< Aethaeryn> blarumyrran: Call of Duty series
20091004 19:25:09< blarumyrran> Hexen had gauntlets, mace and axe
20091004 19:25:16< blarumyrran> Blood had a pitchfork
20091004 19:25:19< blarumyrran> Doom had chainsaw
20091004 19:25:25< blarumyrran> Duke nukem had kick
20091004 19:25:46< blarumyrran> Wolfenstein didnt have a melee weapon?`
20091004 19:26:02< Aethaeryn> Wolfenstein 3D had knife.
20091004 19:26:11< Aethaeryn> I think Enemy Territory did too
20091004 19:26:18< _aD> Proper Wolfenstien had a knife too
20091004 19:26:18< Aethaeryn> As does Counterstrike, iirc.
20091004 19:26:52< Aethaeryn> It's the most common generic, as usually when they don't use a knife they use something unique (e.g. crowbar or Halo's energy sword/grav hammer) that no other genre has
20091004 19:27:13< blarumyrran> http://www.mac-archive.com/wolfenstein/weapons.html indeed
20091004 19:27:17< blarumyrran> its been a while
20091004 19:27:24 * _aD nods
20091004 19:27:30< _aD> I recall stabbing guard dogs in the face with it
20091004 19:27:32< _aD> :-/
20091004 19:27:49< Aethaeryn> In Wolfenstein 3D, knives are good for dogs. Don't waste ammo on them, since they don't give you ammo.
20091004 19:28:06< blarumyrran> wait what
20091004 19:28:12< blarumyrran> http://www.mac-archive.com/wolfenstein/weapons.html these are not the weapons i remember
20091004 19:28:41< _aD> <5 look correct
20091004 19:28:43< Aethaeryn> Macintosh Version Only
20091004 19:29:01< blarumyrran> I remember a pistol & submachine & chaingun
20091004 19:29:04< Aethaeryn> yes
20091004 19:29:08< Aethaeryn> read: (Macintosh Version Only) 
20091004 19:29:23< Aethaeryn> http://www.mac-archive.com/wolfenstein/differences.html
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20091004 19:29:31< ldlework> How the can I seriously roll zero damage so often
20091004 19:29:47< blarumyrran> Right
20091004 19:30:01< _aD> just as often as hit hit miss hit?
20091004 19:30:03< blarumyrran> Idlework, your damage cannot be zero
20091004 19:30:10< blarumyrran> iirc 1 is the minimum damage
20091004 19:30:45< Aethaeryn> Besides more weapons, the PC version > Mac version.
20091004 19:31:14< Aethaeryn> The PC version is harder, and you can sneak up on guards, etc.
20091004 19:32:08< blarumyrran> I think I only completed spear of destiny
20091004 19:33:12< Aethaeryn> never played that one
20091004 19:33:15< Aethaeryn> couldn't track it down
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20091004 19:33:30< blarumyrran> It had ghosts spawn in the last level after picking up the spear
20091004 19:33:51< _aD> Which are notoriously difficult to spear?
20091004 19:34:47< blarumyrran> The ancient and rare Not-Notoriously-Unspearable ghosts of the castle Wolfenstein
20091004 19:35:13< _aD> they must be wearing blankets
20091004 19:35:21< blarumyrran> they did look like blankets iirc
20091004 19:35:28< _aD> Sorted
20091004 19:36:10< blarumyrran> http://www.mac-archive.com/wolfenstein/spear-enemies.html
20091004 19:36:53< _aD> "Chest-mounted Chain Gun"
20091004 19:36:58< _aD> That's one way to do it!
20091004 19:37:40< blarumyrran> You may be laughing now
20091004 19:37:51< _aD> Wow, I used to know someone called Marianna
20091004 19:37:54< blarumyrran> But in 20 years all major militaries across the world will be putting them there
20091004 19:38:00< _aD> I don't think she was a High Priestess though
20091004 19:38:05< blarumyrran> I know someone called Marianne
20091004 19:38:10< blarumyrran> She was neither
20091004 19:38:44< _aD> Neither High Priestess or privy to a chaingun in her chest?
20091004 19:38:56< _aD> she wrote some pretty awesome poetry
20091004 19:39:18< _aD> actually I wasn't in awe so that's the wrong word. It was very good though
20091004 19:41:33< blarumyrran> I dont like poetry
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20091004 19:42:19< Woodmouse> :'( :'(
20091004 19:42:22< _aD> I'm not a great reader of it but hers appealed
20091004 19:42:25< _aD> wb?
20091004 19:43:17 * _aD goes off on a quest to find the poems
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20091004 19:49:02< _aD> epic fail
20091004 19:49:06< _aD> Found all four
20091004 19:49:12< _aD> 404 all of them, damnit
20091004 19:50:22< _aD> how can the Wayback Machine not crawl poetry.com?
20091004 19:50:28< _aD> I bet it archives 4chan.
20091004 19:51:47< Woodmouse> one person talking :o
20091004 19:52:17< _aD> it happens
20091004 19:55:34< blarumyrran> I believe higher powers have judged her poetry worse than 4chan then :>
20091004 19:55:52< _aD> I'd say I agree but...dude, it's 4chan
20091004 19:58:51< _aD> IRC logs are very useful
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