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20091012 00:01:59< Aethaeryn> meowreka: I just noticed something in your lava map
20091012 00:02:27< Aethaeryn> do you want me to demonstrate?
20091012 00:07:20< Aethaeryn> bbl, food
20091012 00:10:28< Aethaeryn> meowreka: first off, they don't display for me (in 1.7) because it's case-sensitive. In other words, you're trying to load Winter_Wonderland.cfg and the actual cfg file is winter_wonderland.cfg
20091012 00:20:38< meowreka> hi
20091012 00:20:49< meowreka> oh.
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20091012 01:11:34< meowreka> it works now
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20091012 01:49:25< meowreka> anybody there?
20091012 01:51:07< _aD> only just
20091012 01:52:08< _aD> in fact, I am not. off to bed with me
20091012 01:53:24< Bellerophon_true> Have no fear, Bellerophon is here!
20091012 01:56:32< meowreka> huh.
20091012 01:56:39< meowreka> hi there bellerophon
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20091012 02:03:42< Bellerophon_true> hi, meowreka ^_^
20091012 02:03:50< meowreka> how is wesnoth today
20091012 02:04:28< Bellerophon_true> full of ups and downs
20091012 02:04:35< meowreka> oh that is terrible
20091012 02:05:03< Bellerophon_true> some games are lost some are won and at the end of the day it pretty much evens out
20091012 02:05:49< meowreka> lies
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20091012 02:06:20< Bellerophon_true> says you :P
20091012 02:07:37< meowreka> burf.
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20091012 02:09:31< meowreka> is there any reason for #wesnoth-mp
20091012 02:10:10< meowreka> anyone that matters is in both #wesnoth and #wesnoth-mp. It is kind of pointless.
20091012 02:13:03< Bellerophon_true> You should point out to the devs that since everyone important seem to be either in #wesnoth and #wesnoth.mp, #wesnoth.mp is pointless
20091012 02:13:44< meowreka> or
20091012 02:13:45< meowreka> or
20091012 02:13:45< meowreka> or
20091012 02:13:52< meowreka> make everyone move to -mp
20091012 02:15:13< Bellerophon_true> yes, to "make" them move to -mp  seems likei a fail-safe, bulletproof plan to me ^_^
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20091012 02:35:28< meowreka> hi
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20091012 02:49:32< meowreka> you are all boring people
20091012 02:49:36< meowreka> why do you never talk
20091012 02:49:45< ancestral> I talk
20091012 02:50:03 * Vornicus doesn't actually play Wesnoth all that much.
20091012 02:50:10< meowreka> ):
20091012 02:50:17< ancestral> Where ya from, meowreka?
20091012 02:51:05< meowreka> misery
20091012 02:51:07< meowreka> usa
20091012 02:51:18< ancestral> Hey I live close to there
20091012 02:52:41 * Vornicus mainly doesn't play because he sucks at it.
20091012 02:53:22< ancestral> So, meowreka, are you in school?
20091012 02:53:31< meowreka> it's 8 PM
20091012 02:53:34< meowreka> why would I be in school
20091012 02:54:28< ancestral> Well, that wasn't necessarily a literal statement
20091012 02:54:44< ancestral> Question, I mean
20091012 02:54:51< meowreka> i c
20091012 02:54:56< meowreka> I am seventeen years old
20091012 02:59:42< ancestral> Alright
20091012 03:05:55< ancestral> meowreka: Any suggestions for the next Hurt and Heal?
20091012 03:19:13< meowreka> hi #wesnoth
20091012 03:19:20< meowreka> I do not support violence
20091012 03:19:26< meowreka> let us have a Heal and Do Not Heal
20091012 03:19:35< meowreka> and whoever gets healed the most after so many rounds wins ^o^
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20091012 03:59:50< Zarel> Hey guys.
20091012 04:00:03< Zarel> I seem to remember a "publicity" article on the wiki.
20091012 04:00:07< Zarel> Does anyone know where that is?
20091012 04:00:28< Zarel> Maybe it was a forum thread.
20091012 04:00:44< Zarel> Aha, both.
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20091012 04:05:18< meowreka> seems to be a 2/3 chance of a footpad getting quick trait
20091012 04:14:23< Soliton> your math might be a little off there.
20091012 04:14:55< meowreka> I've played 3 games recently
20091012 04:15:00< meowreka> every one
20091012 04:15:02< meowreka> I played dwarves
20091012 04:15:05< meowreka> did the EXACT same thing
20091012 04:15:09< meowreka> made a footpad, it had the "Quick" trait
20091012 04:15:12< meowreka> made another, it didn't
20091012 04:15:15< meowreka> the third footpad had quick
20091012 04:15:25< meowreka> 3 times in a row this exact situation happened
20091012 04:15:30< meowreka> coincidence? I think not.
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20091012 04:27:20< meowreka> hi guys
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20091012 04:29:59< [Relic]> Hello :)
20091012 04:30:54< meowreka> who here enjoys playing user-made maps 
20091012 04:36:38< meowreka> nobody, I see...
20091012 04:37:38< Zarel> This is an open-source project.
20091012 04:37:41< Zarel> Aren't we all users, in a sense?
20091012 04:38:20< meowreka> I need people to play a map I made, with me, to help playtest it
20091012 04:38:22< meowreka> everyone keeps quitting
20091012 04:39:09< Ken_Oh> i'll help
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20091012 04:39:25< Zarel> LOL
20091012 04:39:35< meowreka> someone said
20091012 04:39:37< meowreka> "I love this map"
20091012 04:39:38< meowreka> then quit
20091012 04:39:44< meowreka> probably a disconnect
20091012 04:39:45< meowreka> but still
20091012 04:40:16< Zarel> Sorry, I don't play Wesnoth much, so I can't help you.
20091012 04:40:22 * Zarel is just in it for the community
20091012 04:40:39< meowreka> what community
20091012 04:40:45< meowreka> nobody here talks
20091012 04:40:49< meowreka> ;_;
20091012 04:40:54< meowreka> hi ken
20091012 04:41:08< noy> meowreka: first off its a sunday night
20091012 04:41:20< noy> so there are going to be no people on 
20091012 04:41:34< meowreka> there are plenty of people on
20091012 04:41:36< meowreka> all of them are idle
20091012 04:41:37< noy> second you're annoying, people don't like talking to people who are annoying
20091012 04:41:41< meowreka> noy why are you so spiteful and cynical
20091012 04:41:52< noy> Why do you have to be annoying?
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20091012 04:42:35< noy> complaining about why people aren't talking is about the worst way to talk.
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20091012 04:42:51< meowreka> noy
20091012 04:42:56< meowreka> why are you so spiteful and cynical
20091012 04:43:17< noy> I'm not. I'm being brutally honest. 
20091012 04:43:29< noy> Would you rather I lie to you?
20091012 04:44:14< noy> or just leave you to spin your wheels here without anybody responding/
20091012 04:44:16< noy> I can do that, its not hard. 
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20091012 04:45:11< noy> I guess thats your answer
20091012 04:47:36< meowreka> are you angry tonight noy
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20091012 04:51:18< meowreka> it's ok noy
20091012 04:51:27< meowreka> there's no reason to hold a grudge against people you know :/
20091012 04:58:29< meowreka> hey guys
20091012 04:58:54< meowreka> does anyone use default red/blue/green for 3 player games or do you change the team colors?
20091012 05:06:58< meowreka> I personally like a teal/orange/violet setup
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20091012 05:12:21< meowreka> it is quite interesting compared to the normal
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20091012 10:05:04< cizra> Hi
20091012 10:05:20< cizra> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Community points toward #wesnoth, but lacks to say which IRC network you use.
20091012 10:09:48< Blueblaze> cizra: feel free to update the wiki
20091012 10:10:07< cizra> Can I? Hmm..
20091012 10:10:18< Blueblaze> The links though link to freenode server
20091012 10:10:50< Blueblaze> A note somewhere that says all the channels are on the freenode wouldn't be a bad suggestion
20091012 10:11:32< Blueblaze> Not all the foreign language chats are on this server though
20091012 10:12:02< cizra> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Support#IRC -- check it?
20091012 10:12:24< Blueblaze> #WIF and #wesnoth (Dutch channel) don't use Freenode :p
20091012 10:12:51< cizra> uhm.
20091012 10:13:08< cizra> Wait, I'll fix it.
20091012 10:13:08< Blueblaze> So maybe the note should read something like, All the following channels unless otherwise noted use the Freenode IRC network.
20091012 10:13:18< Blueblaze> Then put a note next to #WIF and #wesnoth (Dutch channel) 
20091012 10:14:21< cizra> Refresh?
20091012 10:14:53< Rhonda> erm ...
20091012 10:14:57< Blueblaze> clunky :p
20091012 10:15:16< cizra> Indeed.
20091012 10:15:21< Rhonda> Please don't add freenode to all of them, that's redundant and confusing and stretching.
20091012 10:15:26< Blueblaze> yeah
20091012 10:15:29< Blueblaze> I'll fix it
20091012 10:15:32< cizra> Thanks
20091012 10:15:40< Rhonda> Just add the exceptions, there is the hint on the top that freenode is the default network anyway.
20091012 10:15:46< cizra> Okay.
20091012 10:16:01< Rhonda> "The channels are on the freenode IRC network unless specified otherwise."
20091012 10:18:35< cizra> \o/
20091012 10:20:02< Blueblaze> the descriptions for that list is pretty poor in quality, but meh
20091012 10:20:09< Blueblaze> its too late for me to bother with that :p
20091012 10:20:10< Blueblaze> goodnight
20091012 10:22:24< cizra> Have erotic dreams.
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20091012 14:24:27< skyfaller> hi folks, is there anyone in charge of the ladder here?  this person reported a whole buttload of fake games and really ought to be banned: http://ladder.subversiva.org/profile.php?name=dalla
20091012 14:28:06< Bellerophon_true> He'll be banned sooner or later
20091012 14:28:07< Soliton> no, use the contact address on that page.
20091012 14:28:13< Bellerophon_true> just ignore him
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20091012 14:45:52< cizra> How is Wesnoth language selected in the Windows install? I'm suggesting it to a dumbuser friend, I want to know if he can select his native language.
20091012 14:45:58< skyfaller> Soliton: wow, I don't know how I missed that, thanks for pointing it out :)
20091012 14:48:55< zookeeper> cizra, via the "language" button in the title screen?
20091012 14:49:40< cizra> zookeeper: thanks
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20091012 14:50:09< zookeeper> cizra, you probably want to also check http://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/ to see how complete the translation is
20091012 14:52:30< cizra> *nod*
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20091012 17:04:38< Woodmouse> I was fast, right? xD
20091012 17:04:38< wesbot> Woodmouse: Sometimes we are fast
20091012 17:05:05< Woodmouse> well, I only ate a small lasagne thingy bought from a store. xD
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20091012 17:09:21< dotplus> Please tell me where I can find a list of unit types/upgrade progressions?
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20091012 17:09:49< Blarumyrran> units.wesnoth.org
20091012 17:10:38< dotplus> thanks
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20091012 17:11:12< isaac> haha, well said, wesbot 
20091012 17:11:27< isaac> wesbot: i am still proud of you
20091012 17:12:53< zookeeper> ..?
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20091012 20:13:34< asdf_> hello, i would like to ask anyone here that the reason why the access from my school network is prohibited by www.wesnoth.org, i contacted my school and they told me they do not block any connection to www.wesnoth.org, but I cannot connect to the site when I'm using my school's internet...
20091012 20:15:26< Rhonda> wesnoth.org doesn't block any http access neither
20091012 20:15:38< allefant> maybe a dns issue
20091012 20:15:52< allefant> try if you can view http://65.18.193.12
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20091012 20:23:52< asdf_> allefant: http://65.18.193.12 seems to load wesnoth main webpage, but not properly and slowly
20091012 20:24:06< asdf_> in fact, it has not finished loading the page yet
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20091012 20:46:00< asdf_> allefant: i just tried to access to 65.18.193.12 from wesnoth application, i was successful to connect to main server somehow! I just put the IP address from "connect to" option and it worked :)
20091012 20:52:29< _aD> asdf_: you could try: nslookup www.wesnoth.org
20091012 20:52:35< _aD> in the command line, which would help diagnose DNS
20091012 20:52:45< _aD> oops *reads up* ignore me
20091012 20:52:48 * _aD goes back to sleep
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20091012 20:59:25< asdf_> _aD: does nslookup work with terminal?
20091012 20:59:40< _aD> asdf_: yes, Start->Run->cmd if you can access that
20091012 21:01:31< asdf_> _aD: i'm doing it, so far no output yet
20091012 21:02:13< Soliton> use a different dns server.
20091012 21:02:32< asdf_> _aD: it said ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
20091012 21:03:14< asdf_> Soliton: which one shall i try?
20091012 21:04:55< Soliton> opendns for example.
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20091012 21:06:49< asdf_> i tried with 65.18.193.12 and i got some output "Server:		10.0.4.7 Address:	10.0.4.7#53  Non-authoritative answer: 12.193.18.65.in-addr.arpa	name = wesnoth.wesnoth.org.  Authoritative answers can be found from: 193.18.65.in-addr.arpa	nameserver = NS.HOST4U.NET. 193.18.65.in-addr.arpa	nameserver = NS2.HOST4U.NET. NS.HOST4U.NET	internet address = 209.150.128.30 NS2.HOST4U.NET	internet address = 209.150.128.15"
20091012 21:07:27< asdf_> so i can access to 65.18.193.12, but not www.wesnoth.org
20091012 21:08:55< asdf_> but when I try to open 65.18.193.12 from web-browser, they can not retreive images for some reason, so a page looks funny
20091012 21:09:12< _aD> Do you get this with any other web sites?
20091012 21:09:42< _aD> that's odd as all the images from the home page are from the same server, it seems
20091012 21:09:49< _aD> what browser and version?
20091012 21:10:06< asdf_> _aD: Opera 10
20091012 21:10:13 * _aD nods, not ancient then :-D
20091012 21:10:49< _aD> do you know if you use a proxy server or not?
20091012 21:10:55< asdf_> and no, it only happens with 65.18.193.12
20091012 21:11:17< asdf_> that i don't know
20091012 21:11:27< _aD> I would suggest baking cookies for the local computer geek and asking them to come round and have a look
20091012 21:11:28< asdf_> i use my school's internet
20091012 21:11:30< _aD> I'd fix it for cookies.
20091012 21:12:31< asdf_> hmmmm, I don't know well of the process you just mentioned
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20091012 21:16:12< asdf_> I'll be afk for a while... thanks for your help
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