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20091024 19:40:44< Mineo_> hello. neither in wesnoth 1.6.5, 1.7.6 nor in the svn version can i click something with the mouse if wesnoth is not in fullscreen =/ any ideas?
20091024 19:41:04< Mineo_> (it worked fine the first time i started wesnoth but then it stopped working)
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20091024 19:44:19< kerros> hm. my wesnoth (1.6.5) doesn'T recognize mouse clicks anymore when in windowed mode o.O in fullscreen everything works, but fullscreen is annoying. this is on archlinux
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20091024 19:45:29< Mineo_> kerros: i got the same problem :(
20091024 19:45:42< kerros> is it a known bug?
20091024 19:45:49< kerros> what caused this?
20091024 19:45:53< kerros> it worked before
20091024 19:46:10< kerros> but it's a long time since I played so I cant really pinpoint what update caused it
20091024 19:48:06< Mineo_> the forums search is not working, dunno if somebody reported that before
20091024 19:51:11< Soliton> never heard of it before.
20091024 19:51:48< Soliton> maybe an sdl version issue.
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20091024 20:23:00< Eion> Hey, I got a problem. When I want to leftclick in wesnoth, I have to first press the right mousebutton, then the left, it's exactly the same but the otherwy when I want to rightclick. Anyone know how to make this go away and have it the original way?
20091024 20:25:34< Aethaeryn> Eion: What version of Wesnoth? What operating system?
20091024 20:25:48< Aethaeryn> And if no developers who can help are online, it might be better to post in Technical Support.
20091024 20:26:00< Aethaeryn> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewforum.php?f=4
20091024 20:26:01< Eion> 1.6.5 Arch Linux
20091024 20:27:00-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth to: Wesnoth User Channel | wesnoth.org | http://addons.wesnoth.org | latest stable version: 1.6.5 | latest development version: 1.7.7 | public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com
20091024 20:27:12< Mineo_> Eion: could you try downgrading sdl? that worked for me
20091024 20:27:26< Eion> alright, I'll try that
20091024 20:27:27< Eion> thanks
20091024 20:29:18< Soliton> what version of sdl is in archlinux?
20091024 20:29:47< Mineo_> 1.2.14
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20091024 20:35:21< kerros> it's Eion's exact problem here as well
20091024 20:35:37< kerros> sounds like sdl, that's right
20091024 20:36:58< Mineo_> schlunix.org has the old package version
20091024 20:38:12< Eion> got it in my cache :)
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20091024 20:57:40< Eion> and it fixed it, thanks a lot
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20091024 21:03:30< Aethaeryn> That's an interesting bug.
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20091024 22:29:07< FreeNexusRecruit> Hello.
20091024 22:29:57< Xom_> Hey.
20091024 22:30:15< FreeNexusRecruit> As of my name, you can recognize me (esp ShadowMaster:)
20091024 22:30:59< shadowmaster> you are georgeghoal.
20091024 22:31:12< shadowmaster> I can recognize that IP wherever and however I see it.
20091024 22:31:43< FreeNexusRecruit> I'm a bad person, who, by seeing Wesnoth's MP server, got the idea how to improve Crimson Fields.
20091024 22:32:19< shadowmaster> yeah, we aren't interested anyway.
20091024 22:32:54< FreeNexusRecruit> I thought you would recognize me by the nearer replies on Defocus
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20091024 22:34:19< shadowmaster> you aren't on #defocus, so I have no idea how that relates to anything right now.
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20091024 22:35:36< FreeNexusRecruit> ShadowMaster: I was on defocus, asking for a patch to implement IRC into Crimson Fields.
20091024 22:35:40< Xom_> Anyone up for a game (default settings; counts for ladder if you want) on the dev server?
20091024 22:36:38< FreeNexusRecruit> Xom_? aren't you known as Xombie on Furcadia? |D
20091024 22:38:36< FreeNexusRecruit> In CF, Free Nexus Army is one of 2 factions.
20091024 22:39:44< FreeNexusRecruit> and i joined CF a few days ago - that forms my nickname in CF community.
20091024 22:41:27< FreeNexusRecruit> To ShadowMaster: Can a Skype-integrated IP reader be put into Wesnoth or CF for using Skype as a client software?
20091024 22:42:26< shadowmaster> no, stop asking about near-impossible stuff, it's annoying :/
20091024 22:44:43< FreeNexusRecruit> I'm just trying to find some way of using existing chat software as specific clients for TBS's.
20091024 22:45:16< shadowmaster> there must be a reason those games have their own clients, ni? (the game themselves)
20091024 22:45:20< shadowmaster> *no
20091024 22:45:55< FreeNexusRecruit> CF has no masterserver
20091024 22:46:25< shadowmaster> that's not the point.
20091024 22:46:51< FreeNexusRecruit> I just want to help CF get a masterserver with minimal setup.
20091024 22:46:56< shadowmaster> anyway, no we don't have anything to do with Crimson Fields so any questions regarding their application design are off-topic.
20091024 22:47:17< shadowmaster> and as I told you in #defocus, things are not that easy :(
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20091024 22:51:14< FreeNexusRecruit> With Freenode having an IRC client that allows to /whois with one click, it's easier to find other players' IP's - and thus, a single IRC channel replaces the masterserver
20091024 22:51:34< shadowmaster> try to find out my IP.
20091024 22:51:44< shadowmaster> I defy you.
20091024 22:51:45< Aethaeryn> Or mine.
20091024 22:52:11< Aethaeryn> I woudl've made that challenge first if shadowmaster didn't have me distracted by another channel. Bah. :P
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20091024 22:54:32 * FreeNexusRecruit explodes
20091024 22:55:14< shadowmaster> and now you realize why IRC won't help.
20091024 22:55:29< Aethaeryn> in fact, not everything has an easily readable IP
20091024 22:55:49< FreeNexusRecruit> it WILL help if everyone is on Freenode via webchat.
20091024 22:55:55< shadowmaster> nope.
20091024 22:55:58< Aethaeryn> But almost everyone is not.
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20091024 22:56:14< Aethaeryn> In fact, I'd say the vast majority of IRC veterans do NOT use webchat because it's very limiting.
20091024 22:56:16< shadowm_rly> okay, now you can see my IP, sure.
20091024 22:56:20< Aethaeryn> Most use irssi.
20091024 22:56:26-!- mode/#wesnoth [+b %*!*@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] by ChanServ
20091024 22:56:26< mthe> surely u can still register with nickserv even using webchat? you can with q-net to q
20091024 22:56:47< shadowm_rly> mthe: I was going to demonstrate that.
20091024 22:57:00< mthe> noobs are noobs no matter what their client ^^
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20091024 22:57:14< mthe>  <3 irssi
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20091024 22:57:16< FreeNexusRecruit> I posted a link to Freenode's own IRC client on the CF mailing list.
20091024 22:57:35< shadowm_rly> and, sure, you still can see my IP.
20091024 22:57:58< shadowm_rly> but most serious people wouldn't use this client.
20091024 22:58:06< Soliton> is there any indication that finding IPs is somehow an issue?
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20091024 22:59:48< mthe_>  ^^
20091024 22:59:52< FreeNexusRecruit> Well, not knowing the IP's of players, ready to start the server. That is an issue, and using IRC with Freenode's web chat helps
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20091024 23:00:12< FreeNexusRecruit> with shadowm_rly, i saw the IP as realname
20091024 23:00:20< shadowmaster> yeah.
20091024 23:00:43< FreeNexusRecruit> I'll send that instruction to the mailing list.
20091024 23:01:12< shadowmaster> but why do you believe IRC would help in general? It's not like freenode would allow you to have a channel tha exists for the sole purpose of letting people see each other's IPs for a game that doesn't even have an IRC channel and GRF here.
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20091024 23:07:57< FreeNexusRecruit> Well, general chat about the game plus IP lookup - 2 purposes.
20091024 23:07:57< Soliton> so who's playing CF over the network and can't figure out his IP?
20091024 23:08:41< FreeNexusRecruit> not to figure out OWN IP, to figure out the SERVER's IP
20091024 23:08:53< shadowmaster> ... um.
20091024 23:09:21< shadowmaster> http://myip.dk/ :P
20091024 23:09:24< Soliton> because you join a person's server that doesn't want to tell you his IP?
20091024 23:09:47< Soliton> he'll probably gladly join an irc channel with you then, makes sense.
20091024 23:10:08< FreeNexusRecruit> Well, it is just hard to find other players without a masterserver
20091024 23:10:40< shadowmaster> but in such case you may solve th issue writing such a server, leaving IRC out of the case. I guess.
20091024 23:11:13< Soliton> i'd guess it is just hard to find other players.
20091024 23:11:28< shadowmaster> you can't seem to decide whether you want to write a "masterserver" or work around the lack of one.
20091024 23:12:00< FreeNexusRecruit> with an IRC channel used through Freenode's own web client, players can see IP's of each other and then create/join games.
20091024 23:12:28< Soliton> why would you need the web client?
20091024 23:12:42< Soliton> that just obfuscates the IP.
20091024 23:15:09< FreeNexusRecruit> Well, it's temporary, someone would probably write a masterserver.
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20091024 23:29:37< FreeNexusRecruit> WZ?
20091024 23:29:57< FreeNexusRecruit> WZ dev joined
20091024 23:30:45< shadowmaster> FreeNexusRecruit: and what with that?
20091024 23:30:46< FreeNexusRecruit> I heard that there were some official changes, as movies went GPL
20091024 23:30:56< shadowmaster> fanboy.
20091024 23:31:43< Aethaeryn> FreeNexusRecruit: Developers are not restricted from playing other games, even if it's a similar genre. :P
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20091024 23:32:05< FreeNexusRecruit> WZ is really just Warhammer+C&C
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20091024 23:37:54< shadowmaster> :|
20091024 23:38:17< FreeNexusRecruit> Lizard_Robot... here's no |Cyber_Drake| faction in any era
20091024 23:38:32< Aethaeryn> how do you know?
20091024 23:38:41< shadowmaster> will you stop talking nonsense btw or should I ban you again?
20091024 23:39:16< FreeNexusRecruit> Lizard_Robot is not nonsense, it's a pun on username
20091024 23:39:19< Aethaeryn> It's not nonsense though, there's so many eras these days I wouldn't be surpriesd if some ridiculous faction existed.
20091024 23:43:44< FreeNexusRecruit> Though Opera has an IRC client, i use Freenode's one - because it's zoomable.
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20091024 23:45:04< shadowmaster> that's funny. Most people flooded us with complains when it was introuced.
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20091024 23:48:27< FreeNexusRecruit> -/quit Microsoft Windows is a piece of shit, eating our computers
20091024 23:48:35< shadowmaster> ..
20091024 23:48:38< FreeNexusRecruit> drn
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20091024 23:48:47< shadowmaster> try not to use such language in quit messages.
20091024 23:48:54 * shadowmaster smashes keyboard.
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