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20091025 02:11:59< Serica> does wesnoth 1.6.x still take fonts.cfg? i have stuck in a custom fonts.cfg in /usr/share/wesnoth/data and some fonts in /usr/share/wesnoth/fonts but it does not seem to work.
20091025 02:12:13< Serica> or should i recompile wesnoth to make that take effect?
20091025 02:14:12< Serica> or anybody would like to look into my fonts.cfg at http://pastebin.com/m44430a9f ?
20091025 02:15:19< Serica> or should i bring this to wesnoth-dev?
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20091025 02:18:43< shadowmaster> Serica: it should be in data/hardwired
20091025 02:19:14< Serica> shadowmaster: so i should put this in /usr/share/wesnoth/data/hardwired?
20091025 02:19:24< shadowmaster> yep
20091025 02:19:35< Serica> shadowmaster: thanks. i will try that.
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20091025 02:23:41< Serica> Serica: i suppose that http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothAsianLanguages need some updates, since the guide there point me to wesnoth/data but not wesnoth/data/hardwired .
20091025 02:25:23< shadowmaster> um, everything in there looks outdated/inaccurate to me.
20091025 02:25:55< shadowmaster> the Korean, Chinese and Japanese translations are in mainline and do not require additional setup, for instance.
20091025 02:26:25< shadowmaster> (and the fonts are also included in mainline)
20091025 02:27:09< Serica> well, some folks like me would prefer better fonts other than those made by FangQ :-)
20091025 02:27:42< Serica> and thats wherefore i modified that fonts.cfg --- and apparantly that works nicely
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20091025 02:58:15< Serica> it seems that changing font for unicode latin code blocks will change global font
20091025 02:58:54< Serica> but as far as replacing the dejavu font in /usr/share/wesnoth/fonts some font remains dejavu
20091025 03:00:04< shadowmaster> the [fonts] tag is also described in http://wiki.wesnoth.org/FontsWML btw.
20091025 03:02:37< Serica> thats very interesting
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20091025 04:06:01< Serica> i was wondering wherefore i can input chinese using ibus under linux with chinese locale while i cant with english locale in wesnoth 1.6.5
20091025 04:08:29< Serica> if i can input with ibus i suppose fonts.cfg is okey
20091025 04:12:48< Serica> but thats only chinese local though
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20091025 11:59:16< dfcloneX9> hi there following problem: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16809
20091025 11:59:58< dfcloneX9> in gentoo there same problem, tested on different WM e.g. openbox, awesome and other
20091025 12:08:06< Ivanovic> dfcloneX9: i am *really* not sure if this is a wesnoth bug or a libsdl bug
20091025 12:09:24< Mineo_> dfcloneX9: downgrade sdl
20091025 12:09:41< dfcloneX9> Ivanovic: im not sure too but i hope dev of wesnoth or sdl get a solution , because the this problem else i cant play :D
20091025 12:10:24< dfcloneX9> Mineo_: yeah this is one of the solution...
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20091025 12:13:52< Mineo_> dfcloneX9: but i guess the archlinux bugtracker is the wrong place for that
20091025 12:14:57< Ivanovic> depends
20091025 12:15:20< Ivanovic> that is: since it is probably related to a lib, other others of the distro and the packagers should be made aware of it
20091025 12:15:28< Ivanovic> (that at least the combination is problematic)
20091025 12:16:16< Ivanovic> beside this it should be reported upstream (sdl devs in this case, since the new sdl version most likely broke the stuff, there were no such reports with 1.2.13 and now right after 1.2.14 we got several users with probs like this)
20091025 12:16:29< Ivanovic> though personally on a gentoo unstable box i don't have this problem
20091025 12:16:51< Ivanovic> don't ask me what the difference is and why things work nicely here
20091025 12:17:37< Mineo_> magic
20091025 12:18:31< Ivanovic> probably some switch in libsdl like "hey, this user is a wesnoth dev, so better let him have normal controls!"
20091025 12:18:32< Ivanovic> ;)
20091025 12:18:58< dfcloneX9> Ivanovic: im using unsatble gentooo too but it donw work ... definitelly
20091025 12:19:52< Ivanovic> though i am not using hal to configure my input devices
20091025 12:19:56< Ivanovic> this might make the difference
20091025 12:20:22< dfcloneX9> ok right this could be the problem herd
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20091025 12:21:56< mordante> dfcloneX9, you have the problems with Wesnoth 1.6.5? 
20091025 12:22:32< Ivanovic> dfcloneX9: rough guess: something between hal/xorg and sdl
20091025 12:22:54< dfcloneX9> mordante: yes version 1.6.5
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20091025 12:24:52< mordante> dfcloneX9, if you select the campaign menu does clicking work there normally or not (we have two guis which behave slightly differently)
20091025 12:25:09< mordante> and there was another problem with the old gui event handling 
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20091025 12:25:18< mordante> and what kind of mouse do you have
20091025 12:25:28< dfcloneX9> there are somewhere a bugzilla to read all posted bug of the current wesnoth, maybe i should take a looh to there to checkt out for a solution
20091025 12:26:16< dfcloneX9> mordante: if i select any option in the main menu, so nothing happen i cant open anytion of this action
20091025 12:26:53< dfcloneX9> mordante: im using an usb-mouse, by logiteck mx5100
20091025 12:26:54< mordante> dfcloneX9, and holding the right and left clicking also fails?
20091025 12:28:00< dfcloneX9> mordante: y both task have no affects... mouse logitech mx510
20091025 12:28:49< mordante> dfcloneX9, can you try to downgrade SDL to 1.2.13?
20091025 12:29:01< dfcloneX9> mordante: i try
20091025 12:29:28< dfcloneX9> mordante: this one : media-libs/libsdl ?
20091025 12:30:46< mordante> dfcloneX9, yes
20091025 12:32:15< kerros> dfcloneX9: it should work in fullscreen?
20091025 12:32:56< dfcloneX9> wait i recompile libsdl now
20091025 12:34:53< dfcloneX9> mordante: y with the version media-libs/libsdl-1.2.13-r1 it wok fine but nothe the version 1.2.14
20091025 12:37:40< mordante> dfcloneX9, then it sounds like SDL is the cause, Ivanovic you might want to warn packagers about it
20091025 12:38:10< mordante> dfcloneX9, do you want to do some testing with Wesnoth 1.7.7?
20091025 12:48:15< dfcloneX9> mordante: i dont know if i fine some good ebuild for this testing version , so maybe wil  do some test with it..
20091025 12:48:24< dfcloneX9> find*
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20091025 12:53:11< Ivanovic> dfcloneX9: it should be possible to just rename the 1.6.5 ebuild
20091025 12:53:25< Ivanovic> plus add a dependency to dev-libs/lua
20091025 12:53:53< dfcloneX9> Ivanovic: did it work there on your gentoo?
20091025 12:54:12< Ivanovic> dfcloneX9: i am using plain svn trunk that i build myself from hand
20091025 12:54:22< dfcloneX9> ouch
20091025 12:54:31< Ivanovic> hey, i am a dev, i am different, won't have wesnoth installed via portage
20091025 12:54:36< Ivanovic> ;)
20091025 12:55:47< mordante> Ivanovic, which SDL version do you use?
20091025 12:56:00< Ivanovic> and sorry, the line that has to be added in RDEPEND is dev-lang/lua
20091025 12:56:22< Ivanovic> mordante: media-libs/libsdl-1.2.14
20091025 12:56:31< Ivanovic> mordante: though i am not using my input devices via hal
20091025 12:56:53< dfcloneX9> Ivanovic: sure maybe THIS dev would like to make a live ebuild for gentoo, so more would like to test it ;-)
20091025 12:56:59< Ivanovic> in fact my xorg-server has *no* hal support enabled and i am using a plain old xorg.conf to configure stuff like input devices
20091025 12:57:13< Ivanovic> dfcloneX9: uhm, why?
20091025 12:57:55< dfcloneX9> Ivanovic: maybe dev get more feedback for wesnoth development
20091025 12:58:15< mordante> so it's probably something between hal and SDL
20091025 12:58:23< Ivanovic> live ebuilds from trunk are problematic...
20091025 12:58:35< Ivanovic> since you could as well just get a revision that is utterly borked (happens sometimes)
20091025 12:58:40< Ivanovic> mordante: most likely, yeah
20091025 12:58:59< Ivanovic> sdl-1.2.14 and hal
20091025 12:59:08< Ivanovic> since older sdl versions seem to not suffer from this prob
20091025 12:59:29< mordante> *nods*
20091025 12:59:50< Ivanovic> dfcloneX9: for quick and dirty testing it should be enough if you just copy over the ebuild into your local overlay, change the version to 1.7.7 and add "dev-lang/lua" in the RDEPEND section
20091025 12:59:52< mordante> but I expect more reports about this issue
20091025 12:59:59< Ivanovic> then you should already be able to build and test it
20091025 13:00:09< Ivanovic> mordante: yeah, that is likely
20091025 13:00:40< dfcloneX9> Ivanovic: ok let see ... maybe i make a slot install alse i cant play :-)
20091025 13:01:16< Ivanovic> yes, to make it clean you would require a wesnoth-stable, wesnoth-dev and wesnoth-svn build
20091025 13:01:25< Ivanovic> setting different userdata and binary names
20091025 13:01:39< Ivanovic> nothing that is impossible, though some work to get right regarding manpages and manual
20091025 13:02:17< dfcloneX9> there some where an manpage to building wesnoth from source/ from svn?
20091025 13:02:36< Ivanovic> building is done exactly the same way as normally
20091025 13:02:47< Ivanovic> you only have to get a checkout of trunk
20091025 13:02:58< Ivanovic> svn co svn://svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/trunk wesnoth
20091025 13:03:38< Ivanovic> in general al the info is listed in the wiki: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CompilingWesnoth
20091025 13:04:05< Ivanovic> and you can just use the gentoo ebuild for most stuff, it relies on cmake as build method and things are nicely adaptable in it regarding binary suffix and all the likes
20091025 13:06:07< dfcloneX9> ok i will try 
20091025 13:06:20< dfcloneX9> thank alot for help
20091025 13:06:26< dfcloneX9> bbl
20091025 13:07:10< Ivanovic> i am off now for several hours, cu
20091025 13:07:42< mordante> dfcloneX9, ping me if you manage to get the new wesnoth running
20091025 13:07:45< mordante> off for lunch
20091025 13:07:56< dfcloneX9> mordante: ok
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20091025 13:57:25< dfcloneX9> Ivanovic: http://dpaste.com/111685/ error , compile fail
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20091025 16:30:29< Soliton> dfcloneX9: turn strict compilation off or don't disable asserts.
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20091025 21:01:23< LaggyModemZ> Hello.
20091025 21:03:27< LaggyModemZ> Can The Battle for Wesnoth be ported on Nintendo DS without stylus implementation? or it'll just look like Battle Isle?
20091025 21:04:31< LaggyModemZ> As on DS stylus is a pointer (like mouse in Windows)...
20091025 21:14:50< ancestral> LaggyModemZ: No one is going to just do it currently. It's going to take someone, maybe you, to champion the cause
20091025 21:15:50 * LaggyModemZ has no DS - just had a thought of DS/Zaurus Wesnoth ports with voice chat
20091025 21:16:25 * LaggyModemZ is a blasted moronic gamer
20091025 21:17:07< LaggyModemZ> How do you get rid of "realname" showing IP?
20091025 21:17:55< shadowmaster> LaggyModemZ: you cannot.
20091025 21:18:08< shadowmaster> otherwise the web gateway would be easy to abuse.
20091025 21:18:52< LaggyModemZ> [23:16] == ancestral [n=ancestra@97-116-105-75.mpls.qwest.net]  [23:16] ==  realname : Martin Proud
20091025 21:19:17< shadowmaster> don't paste that.
20091025 21:19:31< ancestral> Hmm?
20091025 21:19:57< LaggyModemZ> To ancestral: How did you make "realname" not to show your IP in whois?
20091025 21:20:18< shadowmaster> of course he isn't using the web gateway or he'd have an autocloak of gateway/web/freenode/*
20091025 21:20:27< shadowmaster> no other IRC clients display one's IP by default.
20091025 21:21:14< LaggyModemZ> only webirc/qwebirc/freenode?
20091025 21:22:02< shadowmaster> well, any IRC gateway that is known to freenode will have a gateway/* cloak. This includes the tor-gpg gateway and some web gateways besides the official one at webchat.freenode.net
20091025 21:22:43< LaggyModemZ> qwebirc stands for QuakeNet Web IRC. The project is/was based on WEBIRC
20091025 21:23:35< shadowmaster> yes, we know that.
20091025 21:23:40< LaggyModemZ> Can i embed webchat.freenode.net URL as a widget on Yandex?
20091025 21:23:55< shadowmaster> I think the guys at #freenode-webchat would know better than me about that.
20091025 21:24:00< shadowmaster> s/m*us
20091025 21:25:31< shadowmaster> of course you can always use links like http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=freenode to point to a new webchat. session on the specified IRC channel (#freenode in this example)
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20091025 21:31:07< LaggyModemZ> what HTML must i use to make the widget (inframe) contain the webchat itself, not a link?
20091025 21:31:33< shadowmaster> as I said above, maybe the folks at #freenode-webchat can help you.
20091025 21:31:42< shadowmaster> (except long waits though)
20091025 21:35:30< LaggyModemZ> looks like ev1 on that channel is afk
20091025 21:35:44< shadowmaster> as I said above, expect long waits.
20091025 21:36:41< LaggyModemZ> Long Waits make me count the channel as junkyard
20091025 21:36:43< LaggyModemZ> |D
20091025 21:37:36< shadowmaster> impatient people are annoying.
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20091025 22:17:58 * shadowmaster raises eyebrow.
20091025 22:19:38< _aD> Had a curious bunch of weirdos lately
20091025 22:20:30< shadowmaster> it's the same weirdo changing nick all the time.
20091025 22:20:50< _aD> I suppose he can't stay in this channel all day, he has others to irritate and/or entertain
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20091025 23:52:58< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen Espreon
20091025 23:52:59< wesbot> shadowmaster: The person with the nick Espreon last spoke 21h 47m ago.  21h 37m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth-dev and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: "WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!"
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