--- Log opened Mon Nov 09 00:00:26 2009 20091109 00:04:56< esr> Aethaeryn: Does that mean I need to go over there and startt actively moderating? 20091109 00:05:24< CIA-61> fendrin * r39643 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/maps/ (19_Costly_Revenge.tomerge 23_End_of_War.map): 20091109 00:05:24< CIA-61> LoW 19,23: Removed an obsolete map from the pre map mask era. 20091109 00:05:24< CIA-61> Some updates to the final scenario map. 20091109 00:08:21< fendrin> Ivanovic: I guess the persion misses the multiplayer addons in the campaign dialogue. 20091109 00:08:23< Aethaeryn> esr: At least draw a line as to what's Writing Forum and what's Off Topic "Hi I want to write a story... or a list of things you can hunt in Wesnoth" 20091109 00:08:44< Aethaeryn> The advantage of Off Topic for stupid stuff is that it gets purged if no one replies to it in the month. Survival of the fittest topics :) 20091109 00:09:13< esr> Noted. Can't et to it today, though - too much to do before .1.78. 20091109 00:12:09< Aethaeryn> Yeah 20091109 00:13:22< Aethaeryn> Though once 1.8 is out, I'm taking a break from Latin, maybe doing a few Thunderstone sprites... 20091109 00:16:37< Aethaeryn> esr: think "Sexus" is okay for "Gender"? 20091109 00:16:57< Aethaeryn> Latin was a language before political correctness, so it doesn't have "gender" for male/female, it has "sex" for male/female 20091109 00:17:03< Aethaeryn> bah, wrong channel. 20091109 00:17:27< Aethaeryn> I cannot juggle 9 channels and 7 windows 20091109 00:26:59-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit ["Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"] 20091109 00:27:36-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 00:31:54< deekay> Ivanovic: Which version of gcc do you have? 20091109 00:32:09< Ivanovic> $ gcc --version 20091109 00:32:10< Ivanovic> gcc (Gentoo 4.4.2 p1.0) 4.4.2 20091109 00:32:24< deekay> guess it's time for an upgrade 20091109 00:32:28< Ivanovic> :) 20091109 00:34:04-!- CIA-61 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20091109 00:36:54-!- CIA-55 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 00:37:16< deekay> meh 20091109 00:37:33< deekay> seems that on my notebook (stable debian) I can have only 4.3 20091109 00:39:38< esr> Ivanovic: OK, wmlscope issue resolved. 20091109 00:39:56< Aethaeryn> Yay. 20091109 00:40:04< Ivanovic> esr: great, what was the problem? 20091109 00:40:18< Ivanovic> and no, i won't release now, i will head off to bed instead since it is almost 1am over here 20091109 00:41:16< esr> Me. I made a refactoring change to my cross-rferencing gebnerator,m to prepare for parallelizing itinto multiple subprocesses for performance, and it broke. 20091109 00:41:45< esr> I'll revisit after 1.7.8 ships. 20091109 00:42:38< Aethaeryn> esr: You'd fit at home in Star Trek. ;) 20091109 00:55:42< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: I think you are lazy and crazy. 20091109 00:56:17< Aethaeryn> He's crazy-ivanovic, yes. 20091109 00:56:36< shadowmaster> no blockers for me anyway. I played UtBS from start to end some days ago and it worked and I fixed any minor bugs I could find. 20091109 00:58:01-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 01:21:13-!- noy_ [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 01:22:30-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20091109 01:22:30-!- noy_ is now known as noy 20091109 01:27:36-!- deekay [n=dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has quit [] 20091109 01:35:09-!- crimson_pinvin [n=ben@64.201.60.211] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 01:35:43-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091109 01:35:52-!- crimson_pinvin is now known as crimson_penguin 20091109 01:36:06-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@nat-portal-160-94-47-16.uofm.wireless.umn.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 01:36:53-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 01:37:39-!- stikonas [n=and@bcm-131-111-216-119.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 01:38:36-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 01:39:13-!- stikonas [n=and@bcm-131-111-216-119.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 01:41:41-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 01:47:15-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 02:09:03-!- Chusslove [n=Chusslov@brsg-d9bef8b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091109 02:11:02< shadowmaster> crimson_penguin: around? 20091109 02:11:13< crimson_penguin> yes, but I'm going soon 20091109 02:11:21< shadowmaster> ah, okay then. 20091109 02:11:53< CIA-55> esr * r39645 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Address bug #14700: Chest shows "open" too soon in UtBS. 20091109 02:15:03< esr> shadowmaster: Did you notice bug #14699? 20091109 02:15:04-!- Chusslove [n=Chusslov@brsg-d9bee918.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 02:17:02< crimson_penguin> shadowmaster: I'll be back in ~1 hour? 20091109 02:17:43< shadowmaster> I am not going to be back in that time. Maybe tomrorow. 20091109 02:18:09< shadowmaster> it's nothing important either. 20091109 02:18:28< shadowmaster> esr: no, I haven't. 20091109 02:19:00< shadowmaster> esr: what is the bug though? That seems to be intended behavior. 20091109 02:19:12< shadowmaster> I mean I've seen that since the 1.0.2-compatible UMC version 20091109 02:20:06< esr> shadowmaster: I think we should trow a fake unit on the screen when Keratur dies and only disappear it whrn the dialog is finished. Othrewise, Kaleh is talking to emoty air. 20091109 02:20:29< esr> s/emoty/empty/ 20091109 02:21:04< shadowmaster> ah. Um, okay, that could be solved with a last breath event. 20091109 02:21:07< shadowmaster> I'll assign it to me. 20091109 02:21:18< esr> Oh, yeah,. that's true. 20091109 02:21:26< esr> Really easy. 20091109 02:22:51< esr> Will you have time before release tomoerrow? If not, I'll do it. 20091109 02:25:19< shadowmaster> Ijust did it. 20091109 02:25:20< CIA-55> esr * r39646 /branches/1.6/data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Dark_Forecast.cfg: 20091109 02:25:20< CIA-55> Address bug #14688: Negative HP in Dark Forcast Multiplayer Scenario. 20091109 02:25:20< CIA-55> This bug is not present in 1.7. 20091109 02:26:11< esr> OK, I'll mark that bug fixed then. (It was my wife reporting :-)) 20091109 02:27:42< CIA-55> shadowmaster * r39647 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: 20091109 02:27:42< CIA-55> Fix bug #14699 : Keratur's unit becomes invisible (plays the death 20091109 02:27:42< CIA-55> animation) right before a dialogue with him instead of remaining visible 20091109 02:27:42< CIA-55> for his lines. 20091109 02:30:09< shadowmaster> the commit and its log message for the bug tracker took a bit longer to arrive thugh. 20091109 02:30:22-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit ["WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!"] 20091109 02:30:35< shadowmaster> just a problem at my side, not gna. 20091109 02:30:43< esr> NP. 20091109 02:31:49< esr> Got anything else yoy think you can fix before we ship? I just got the open-chest bug in "Out of the Frying Pan" and fixed a reported typo in 1.6.5. 20091109 02:33:53< CIA-55> shadowmaster * r39648 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: 20091109 02:33:53< CIA-55> Truly make sure Keratur doesn't play his death animation when Kaleh 20091109 02:33:53< CIA-55> decides to carry him in the event modified by r39647. 20091109 02:34:00< esr> Wow. We fixed 40 bugs this cycle. Not bd. 20091109 02:44:08< shadowmaster> there are some animation issues with Yechnagoth involving her creepy alien thingy unit to rotate around like normal units when it attacks someone. 20091109 02:45:00< shadowmaster> I believe it is not supposed to move a lot (it's probably similar to a tree) and I have a fix for that in IftU for ages. I could port that to UtBS. 20091109 02:45:21< shadowmaster> *have had 20091109 02:50:12< Aethaeryn> esr: Do you want me to email you what I have right now for Latin just in case I'm not online tomorrow morning? 20091109 02:50:36< Aethaeryn> only three files modified. 20091109 02:51:35< shadowmaster> tt/36 20091109 02:53:14-!- ardesh [n=ardesh@port-92-206-90-130.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20091109 02:53:39-!- ardesh [n=ardesh@port-92-206-120-168.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 02:54:51< esr> Aethaeryn: Go ahead. You want me to commit those? 20091109 02:57:55< shadowmaster> 20091109 02:58:17< shadowmaster> wow, I got an use for the ~NOP (no-op) image function! :) 20091109 03:04:08< CIA-55> shadowmaster * r39649 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/ (Alien_Body.cfg Alien_Body2.cfg): 20091109 03:04:08< CIA-55> Prevent Yechnagoth from changing her visual unit facing when attacking 20091109 03:04:08< CIA-55> or defending from units in certain directions with some animation WML 20091109 03:04:08< CIA-55> magic. This also adds some sound effects to her attack animations, and 20091109 03:04:08< CIA-55> removes any difference from the melee and ranged animation. This unit 20091109 03:04:12< CIA-55> should now look basically like a normal tree that attacks the player. 20091109 03:07:23< Aethaeryn> esr: okay, should I PM them to you on the forums? 20091109 03:07:42< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn, esr um, why not just email them to Ivanovic? 20091109 03:08:04< shadowmaster> he's both the release and i18n manager after all 20091109 03:08:23< esr> That make sense. 20091109 03:09:06< Aethaeryn> oh... 20091109 03:09:09< Aethaeryn> Did not make the connection. 20091109 03:09:54< shadowmaster> I'm going to bed now, good night. 20091109 03:09:58< CIA-55> shadowmaster * r39650 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/Alien_Spire.cfg: 20091109 03:09:58< CIA-55> Apply r39649's changes to the Pulsing Spires' units. Death animations 20091109 03:09:58< CIA-55> still need fixing however. 20091109 03:10:38< shadowmaster> (will try to be around for the release) 20091109 03:13:24< Aethaeryn> Not like getting the translation in on time for 1.7.8 matters. 1.8.0 is the big release. 20091109 03:13:55< shadowmaster> by getting it into beta and RC releases you are helping pepole become aware of the translations' existence and activity. 20091109 03:14:02< shadowmaster> that could attract new translators before 1.8. 20091109 03:15:10< Aethaeryn> 5 people have worked on it thus far. 20091109 03:15:30< Aethaeryn> There's existence and activity. 20091109 03:15:39< Aethaeryn> If anything, they'll be shocked by how much it jumps between beta and RC :P 20091109 04:53:45-!- Aethaeryn [n=Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit ["Exit."] 20091109 05:17:08-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 05:28:49-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091109 05:43:00-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 05:44:56-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 05:50:42< noy> Zarel: do you play settler of Cataan? 20091109 05:56:23-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [] 20091109 06:13:05-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091109 06:21:15-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.7.8-beta1 planned for monday | string/feature freeze active! | 63 bugs, 246 feature requests, 10 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20091109 07:35:28-!- EdB [n=edb@118.153.82-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 07:53:28-!- _teddy [n=fedor76@ppp-78-24-25-170-bras0.istra.ru] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 20091109 08:05:16-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 08:16:31-!- silene [n=plouf@ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-104-251.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 08:24:17-!- EdB [n=edb@118.153.82-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 08:31:44-!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@131.181.103.242] has quit [Connection timed out] 20091109 08:35:06< Zarel> noy: I've seen people play it, but I haven't played it myself yet. 20091109 08:35:10< noy> nm 20091109 08:38:52-!- silene1 [n=plouf@ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-3-251.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 08:40:19-!- silene [n=plouf@ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-104-251.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091109 08:42:22-!- silene1 is now known as silene 20091109 09:14:30-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 09:21:50-!- SonIcco [n=SonIcco@pD9513197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 09:56:10-!- _teddy [n=fedor76@ppp-78-24-25-170-bras0.istra.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 10:14:25-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091109 10:33:33-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.140.238] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 10:34:27-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.140.238] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 10:49:01-!- dtiger [n=dtiger@mm-234-152-84-93.dynamic.pppoe.mgts.by] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 10:58:24-!- EdB [n=edb@118.153.82-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 11:16:58< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39651 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/la.po wesnoth-lib/la.po wesnoth-manpages/la.po): updated Latin translation 20091109 11:48:38-!- yamokidzu-it [n=rainy-it@host42-71-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 11:55:10-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [] 20091109 12:21:45-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 12:36:05-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20091109 12:52:22-!- yamokidzu-it [n=rainy-it@host42-71-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit ["KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/"] 20091109 12:54:20-!- yamokidzu-it [n=rainy-it@host42-71-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 13:02:27-!- Aethaeryn [n=Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #Wesnoth-dev 20091109 13:15:45< Aethaeryn> This Connection is Untrusted 20091109 13:15:46< Aethaeryn> You have asked Firefox to connect securely to gna.org, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. 20091109 13:16:15< Aethaeryn> ^ Firefox's latest update now apparently thinks gna.org is a shady site 20091109 13:16:32< Soliton> Ivanovic: there? 20091109 13:17:06< Aethaeryn> Which may discourage people from using bugs.wesnoth.org to report bugs for the beta if Firefox makes you extra paranoid about going there 20091109 13:18:28< Soliton> Ivanovic: i've setup 1.8 campaignd and would suggest to shut down 1.4 and use that port (15005) 20091109 13:18:36< silene> Aethaeryn: it doesn't have anything to do with firefox; it's just that gna modified their certificate last week and didn't make it properly; firefox is right to complain 20091109 13:18:52< Rhonda> Aethaeryn: Well, it's not only gna, it's almost all sites in the free software universe. Get the cacert root certificate installed. 20091109 13:19:53< Rhonda> Aethaeryn: http://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=3 20091109 13:20:41< Ivanovic> Soliton: please shut down the 1.4 server, i will change the port ingame this evenging 20091109 13:20:48< Ivanovic> got to head off to uni now 20091109 13:20:52< Soliton> Ivanovic: infact that's what i've done now. what's left is just to update a couple places with the port. 20091109 13:20:57< Rhonda> Aethaeryn: Also, see their announcement: http://gna.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=2145 20091109 13:21:05 * Soliton nods. 20091109 13:23:34< Aethaeryn> silene: I guess the issue is that random-average-person will think that bugs.wesnoth.org is compromised or something. 20091109 13:25:43< Ivanovic> Soliton: looks like the port is only specified at two places in the source tree: 20091109 13:25:49< Ivanovic> ./src/addon_checks.cpp:const unsigned short default_campaignd_port = 15004; 20091109 13:25:54< Ivanovic> ./data/tools/wesnoth/campaignserver_client.py: portmap = (("15004", "1.7.x"), ("15003", "1.6.x"), ("15005", "1.4.x")) 20091109 13:26:19< Ivanovic> okay, off now, cu this evening (when i plan to release ;) ) 20091109 13:29:20< Aethaeryn> Rhonda: thanks for the link. 20091109 13:31:04< Aethaeryn> Is 1.7.8 tagged yet? 20091109 13:31:38< Rhonda> Aethaeryn: random-average-person will think *everything* is compromised, that's unfortunately nothing new nor gna specific, and firefox received a load of bad feedback about that already. 20091109 13:33:45< Aethaeryn> Rhonda: Yeah, here's the main problem with the Firefox system: you're going to have two types of people. People who will just ignore every warning, and people like my Mom who will call me at every warning and refuse to do anything until I've fixed it. 20091109 13:37:55< Rhonda> Unfortunately that's nothing we can fix, I'm afraid. 20091109 13:39:34< Aethaeryn> http://www.xkcd.com/627/ 20091109 13:55:57-!- yamokidzu-it [n=rainy-it@host42-71-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091109 14:07:35< shadowmaster> has the new add-on server been started yet? 20091109 14:16:07< esr> Hnnn. Here's the portmap tht CampaignClient is using: portmap = (("15004", "1.7.x"), ("15003", "1.6.x"), ("15005", "1.4.x")) 20091109 14:16:16< esr> How should tat cange? 20091109 14:16:35< esr> Er "How should that change?" 20091109 14:17:05-!- shikadibot [n=shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 14:17:24-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 14:27:05-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has quit ["nyu"] 20091109 14:30:43-!- _teddy [n=fedor76@ppp-78-24-25-170-bras0.istra.ru] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 20091109 14:30:45< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Doesn't appear to be. I have the latest trunk and I'm still connecting to the 1.7.7 server. 20091109 14:31:14< shadowmaster> IIRC it should be started in a new port so unmodified clients won't connect to it yet. 20091109 14:32:11< Rhonda> I fear I won't finish my work on 1.7.7 before 1.7.8 is out . o O ( wrt/ Debian packaging ) 20091109 14:32:49< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Well, I think it'll be the old 1.4 port 20091109 14:32:56< Aethaeryn> If you know which one that is 20091109 14:33:41< shadowmaster> I'll probably wait for the src change 20091109 14:45:00< Aethaeryn> I'll be working up to the deadline on the Latin translation. 20091109 14:45:32< Aethaeryn> I wouldn't recommend anyone using it until 1.7.9 anyway, but still... As much as possible needs to be done. 20091109 14:48:53< shadowmaster> I thought it was a Just For Fun translation anyway? 20091109 14:50:53< Aethaeryn> It has educational purposes. 20091109 14:51:16< Aethaeryn> I'm sure 4 out of 5 high school Latin classes would prefer a game in Latin to class. 20091109 14:54:01-!- Doppp [n=Doppp@67.171.96.240] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091109 15:05:44-!- Doppp [n=Doppp@c-67-171-96-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 15:30:37< shadowmaster> what am I doing wrong? http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d244b1a7c 20091109 15:33:04< AI0867> the name of the add-on 20091109 15:33:12< AI0867> can you specify it somehow? 20091109 15:33:44< shadowmaster> ~/svn/wesnoth-1.7-tools/wesnoth_addon_manager -p 1.7.x -V -u Invasion_from_the_Unknown worke... 20091109 15:33:51< shadowmaster> but I got SIGTERM, I guess the OOM killer in action. 20091109 15:36:46-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit ["moar memory!"] 20091109 15:37:39-!- _teddy [n=fedor76@ppp-78-24-25-170-bras0.istra.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 15:37:47-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 15:39:13-!- shikadibot [n=shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit ["manual override"] 20091109 15:40:00-!- shadowm_rly [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 15:40:12< shadowm_rly> AI0867: not good, wesnoth_addon_manager's usage goes over 200 MB 20091109 15:40:26< shadowm_rly> I guess my plan failed. 20091109 15:41:40< shadowm_rly> I wonder though why the kernel decides to kill the newly spawned process instead. I once tried to use gparted on my laptop with no swap (I was actually trying to create a new emergency swap partition) and I got kded killed instead. 20091109 15:41:47< shadowm_rly> :| 20091109 15:41:56-!- dtiger [n=dtiger@mm-234-152-84-93.dynamic.pppoe.mgts.by] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 15:43:03< shadowm_rly> um. 20091109 15:43:15-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 15:43:45-!- SonIcco [n=SonIcco@pD9513197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 15:45:16-!- shadowm_rly is now known as shadowm_laptop 20091109 15:47:07< shadowmaster> I wonder if I could "abuse" wesnoth.org instead - 20091109 15:50:02< shadowmaster> oh gods. 20091109 15:50:58 * Rhonda locks shadowmaster's account 20091109 15:52:19< Rhonda> shadowmaster: No, you can't. 20091109 15:52:23< shadowm_laptop> :( 20091109 15:52:26< CIA-55> esr * r39652 /trunk/data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/01_Saving_Parthyn.cfg: Add a translation note. 20091109 15:53:25< Rhonda> Oh, right. Wanted to bug olm about the kernel. 20091109 15:53:30< Rhonda> .. that _is_ olm, right? 20091109 15:54:46< shadowmaster> no, I was dealing with a different server with just 128 MB of RAM 20091109 15:54:49< Rhonda> shadowmaster: Alright, unlocked again, but don't think aloud along that lines while I'm around or I'll LART you 20091109 15:54:50< shadowmaster> VPS actually. 20091109 16:00:35-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 16:03:31-!- shikadibot [n=shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 16:06:04-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has quit ["shikadibot doesn't like me"] 20091109 16:07:37-!- shadowm_laptop [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20091109 16:12:39-!- EdB [n=edb@118.153.82-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 16:13:50< shadowmaster> ah, don't I love the WML protocol *grumble* 20091109 16:14:31< CIA-55> ai0867 * r39653 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Don't have a unit speak and die in a death event, do it in a last breath 20091109 16:39:41-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091109 16:42:45< CIA-55> ai0867 * r39654 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: Add a testcase for bug #14665 20091109 16:43:36-!- shadowm_laptop [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 16:44:48-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 16:46:55< AI0867> wesbot: topic 20091109 16:46:58< wesbot> AI0867: Don't be impatient, wait until something changes... *tsk* 20091109 16:51:17< Soliton> maybe wmllint can check for units talking in their die event? 20091109 16:51:44< fendrin> Wmllint already does that. 20091109 16:52:30< Soliton> i see. so maybe someone should run wmllint once in a while? :-P 20091109 16:52:54< fendrin> Or the feature is broken. 20091109 16:56:23< Aethaeryn> oooh 20091109 16:56:29< Aethaeryn> I found a bug in the new lobby. 20091109 16:57:01< Aethaeryn> go to the new multiplayer loby in trunk, click on Preferences, go to full screen under Display, and then close the Preferences box 20091109 16:57:24< Aethaeryn> The lobby doesn't resize properly. If you were full screen and are no longer, that means the bottom is cut off for you. If you weren't full screen and now are, there's a black box at the bottom. 20091109 17:00:18< Aethaeryn> Also, is "Games: showing 0 out of 0" translateable? I can't find it in either wesnoth or wesnoth-lib 20091109 17:02:47-!- lizard_r [n=Miranda@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 17:04:13-!- shadowm_laptop [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091109 17:12:31-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 17:14:15-!- vigg_ [i=5d7d0c7a@gateway/web/freenode/x-dxvosnnqtnlzwztf] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 17:21:31-!- EdB [n=edb@79.95.12.224] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 17:23:33-!- dtiger [n=dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-12-122.telecom.by] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 17:39:10< Aethaeryn> Ivanovic: can you poke me when you want me to email in the 1.7.8 Latin translation updates before the release? 20091109 17:39:50< Aethaeryn> Just copying words back and forth between wesnoth and wesnoth-lib has raised the stats in lib by around 5% 20091109 17:44:03-!- vigg_ [i=5d7d0c7a@gateway/web/freenode/x-dxvosnnqtnlzwztf] has quit ["Page closed"] 20091109 17:49:47-!- shadowm_rly [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 17:51:25-!- shadowm_rly is now known as shadowm_laptop 20091109 17:55:50-!- EdB [n=edb@79.95.12.224] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 17:59:06< CIA-55> shadowmaster * r39655 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/Alien_Body2.cfg: 20091109 17:59:06< CIA-55> Don't allow Yechnagoth to change facing while playing her death 20091109 17:59:06< CIA-55> animation. 20091109 18:14:44-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 18:14:46< Ivanovic> Aethaeryn: *now* 20091109 18:14:48< Ivanovic> ;) 20091109 18:15:43< Ivanovic> hi 20091109 18:19:16< esr> wmllint's death event check has definitely turned up stuff that needed to be fixed, in the past. Maybe its not general enough? 20091109 18:19:44< Aethaeryn> Ivanovic: ok 20091109 18:19:57< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39656 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): switch addon server to the new one for 1.8.x stable series which will be using port 15005 20091109 18:21:06< Ivanovic> esr: so wml is currently clean and should work? 20091109 18:21:19< esr> Checking... 20091109 18:22:25< Aethaeryn> sent 20091109 18:25:36-!- stikonas [n=and@bcm-131-111-216-119.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 18:26:11-!- AI0867 [n=ai@wesnoth/developer/ai0867] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 18:26:12-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 18:26:14< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39657 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/la.po wesnoth-lib/la.po wesnoth-multiplayer/la.po): updated Latin translation 20091109 18:26:25-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.7.8 *now* | string/feature freeze active! | 63 bugs, 246 feature requests, 10 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20091109 18:27:11< Ivanovic> Chusslove, crimson_penguin, esr, fendrin, grzywacz, loonycyborg, shadowm_laptop, silene, Soliton, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: ready for 1.7.8? 20091109 18:27:23< fendrin> Ivanovic: Ready 20091109 18:27:33< crimson_penguin> I suppose so 20091109 18:27:44-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 18:27:44< esr> Ivanovic: wmlscope and wmllint reports are clean. Ready. 20091109 18:27:50 * crimson_penguin is gonna have to make sure to use the old SDL and everything 20091109 18:28:02< silene> Ivanovic: yes 20091109 18:28:53< fendrin> Ivanovic: maybe you wait for mordante? 20091109 18:29:23< Ivanovic> fendrin: it is not sure if he joins at all at days in the week 20091109 18:29:28< Ivanovic> so, no, i won't wait for him 20091109 18:31:20< Aethaeryn> Ivanovic: How do I upload something if I get the error "There are no add-ons available for download on this server"? 20091109 18:32:02< Aethaeryn> I was going to do a service and upload a bunch of add-ons for other people if they didn't mind. (It's not bias, I'd put my own one at the middle or bottom of the list, depending on how many.) 20091109 18:32:37< Ivanovic> Aethaeryn: you need the correct file first 20091109 18:32:55< Ivanovic> you know, the file witht he author name, password and so on 20091109 18:33:08< Ivanovic> so no, you can't upload for others, just tell them to upload their stuff 20091109 18:33:32< Ivanovic> "normal" users most likely won't know that there is a new addon server until the binaries are out and announced 20091109 18:35:28-!- deekay [n=dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 18:42:50< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: I'm ready for the release. 20091109 18:50:21< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39658 /trunk/ (226 files in 25 dirs): 20091109 18:50:21< CIA-55> pot-update (no string changes/additions, preparing for 1.7.8) 20091109 18:50:21< CIA-55> regenerated doc files 20091109 18:51:09-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 18:52:34< zookeeper> hmh... 20091109 18:52:50< zookeeper> Ivanovic, when are you tagging? 20091109 18:54:05< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39659 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): bump version to 1.7.8-beta1, releasing in some mins... 20091109 18:54:17< Ivanovic> zookeeper: i planned "in 5mins" 20091109 18:54:31< zookeeper> ah, ok 20091109 18:54:45< zookeeper> i just now spotted the latest comment to http://gna.org/bugs/?14656 20091109 18:54:47< Ivanovic> why? 20091109 18:54:56< Ivanovic> what do you still have open? 20091109 18:55:09< zookeeper> i was thinking of taking a quick look at that one 20091109 18:55:36< Ivanovic> uhm, have a look 20091109 18:56:43< zookeeper> ok, shouldn't take too long.. 20091109 18:56:45< Ivanovic> i will check now if the campaigns do all start 20091109 19:00:50< zookeeper> testing.. 20091109 19:02:20< zookeeper> bugger, it reproduces here 20091109 19:03:54< Ivanovic> hmm, okay 20091109 19:04:02< zookeeper> i'll do a very quick diagnostic of what's actually wrong with it 20091109 19:04:06< Ivanovic> okay 20091109 19:04:14< Ivanovic> the rest seems to work nicely, even the mp lobby 20091109 19:04:18< Ivanovic> ;) 20091109 19:04:46-!- Crab_ [i=crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:06:34< zookeeper> uh, looks like turn refresh events aren't firing at all? 20091109 19:07:05< Ivanovic> no idea 20091109 19:07:14< Ivanovic> if that was the case it would *not* be good at all 20091109 19:07:18< zookeeper> yeah 20091109 19:07:21-!- elynia_ [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:07:32< zookeeper> double-checking now.. 20091109 19:07:51< Ivanovic> if it is really proben, maybe silene can have a look 20091109 19:08:23-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20091109 19:08:30-!- elynia_ is now known as elynia 20091109 19:09:35< Soliton> well, turn refresh doesn't fire on turn 1. 20091109 19:09:50< zookeeper> d'oh 20091109 19:09:58< Ivanovic> :) 20091109 19:10:08< zookeeper> Soliton, don't tell me i said it's ok that way? :P 20091109 19:10:24< silene> i think you did 20091109 19:10:40< Soliton> pretty sure you did because the reason is that we don't want income & healing at turn 1. 20091109 19:11:17< Soliton> i'm not sure why no healing but income makes sense, i think. 20091109 19:11:21< zookeeper> wait, what? that doesn't have anything to do with whether WML events should fire or not 20091109 19:11:29< zookeeper> or am i forgetting something important here? 20091109 19:11:45< Soliton> the turn refresh event is the event that fires after healing. 20091109 19:12:12< Soliton> we can fire it anyway on turn 1 of course. 20091109 19:13:01< zookeeper> yeah, please do 20091109 19:13:10< Soliton> i suppose it's also likely it won't break anything... 20091109 19:13:20< zookeeper> well they used to fire on turn 1 too 20091109 19:14:13< silene> Soliton: it will break any scenario that expects it to fire at healing time 20091109 19:14:47< Soliton> sure, but i don't think there are any. 20091109 19:14:56< zookeeper> i still don't see what the heck firing WML events has to do with healing and income. 20091109 19:15:10< Soliton> anyhow i don't have the setup to do stuff from here... 20091109 19:15:50< Soliton> zookeeper: it's supposed to be the point of the event. there is no technical reason to connect the two otherwise. 20091109 19:16:46< zookeeper> i have no idea what's wrong with my testing either. changes i make to the scenario .cfg don't take effect when i start the campaign and :cl to that scenario. 20091109 19:16:55< zookeeper> and i'm out of time, gotta go now -> 20091109 19:17:19< zookeeper> ah, strike the latest one, they did fire finally 20091109 19:17:31< zookeeper> no idea why they didn't on my first try after making a change.. 20091109 19:17:32< silene> as a matter of fact, there is no reason to have "turn refresh" if it doesn't fire at healing/income time, since there are other events that are fired at each side change 20091109 19:17:53< zookeeper> crossroads case is the reason 20091109 19:18:14-!- shadowmaster_ [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:19:30< silene> by the way, has "turn refresh" ever fired the first turn in the past? (looking at the history, it doesn't seem to be the case) 20091109 19:19:37-!- shadowm_laptop [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Connection timed out] 20091109 19:21:58-!- shadowmaster_ is now known as shadowm_lapto 20091109 19:22:00-!- shadowm_lapto is now known as shadowm_laptop 20091109 19:22:10< Soliton> yeah, i believe there was a bug about it when it added income at the first turn at the local client but not the remote or something. 20091109 19:23:49-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has quit ["BUG path"] 20091109 19:23:58-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20091109 19:27:23-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:28:55-!- boucman [n=rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:32:48< Soliton> hmm, why was the side turn event not working before? 20091109 19:33:26< silene> what do you mean not working? 20091109 19:33:47< Soliton> well, it didn't manage to change the moves to 0 it seems? 20091109 19:34:18< silene> because it happens too early, before moves are reset to their maximum 20091109 19:34:34-!- shadowm_laptop [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Client Quit] 20091109 19:34:48-!- CheeseLord [n=chatzill@78-105-212-150.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:34:55< Soliton> but that only happens for turn > 1 right? 20091109 19:35:08< Soliton> do we need to set moves to 0 again? of course... 20091109 19:35:39-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 19:35:48< Soliton> ok, then we just need a first time only side turn and a turn refresh event. 20091109 19:35:49< zookeeper> ok, i'm back now 20091109 19:36:27< zookeeper> we need turn refresh because side turn fires before turns are reset and healing etc and turn refresh fires after 20091109 19:36:33< zookeeper> both of those should trigger also on turn 1 20091109 19:36:36-!- CheeseLord [n=chatzill@78-105-212-150.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20091109 19:36:44-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:36:55< Soliton> well, what i just said should work right now. 20091109 19:36:57< zookeeper> if i've said that they shouldn't, then that must have been a misunderstanding of some sort, i see no merit whatsoever in making them not fire on turn 1 20091109 19:37:39< zookeeper> what do you mean? does side turn now fire after move reset and healing? 20091109 19:37:52< silene> no 20091109 19:37:53< Soliton> there is no move reset and healing on turn 1. 20091109 19:38:09< Soliton> which is why there is no turn refresh fired! ;-) 20091109 19:38:31< zookeeper> that's not what i meant 20091109 19:40:06< zookeeper> so does side turn now fire after move reset and healing _or_ is does the game have completely different handling of turn 1 than all other turns? 20091109 19:40:10< zookeeper> -is 20091109 19:40:18< Soliton> the latter! 20091109 19:41:11< zookeeper> uh, right 20091109 19:41:26< Soliton> IMO it'd be fine to heal on turn 1 as well and fire turn refresh. 20091109 19:41:34< Soliton> just no income. 20091109 19:41:34< zookeeper> isn't that kinda silly? 20091109 19:41:55< zookeeper> why not just have the exact same code handle it all and just have income and healing wrapped in an if or something? 20091109 19:42:26< Soliton> it is also the exact same code now with an if turn > 1. ;-) 20091109 19:43:13< zookeeper> ok, so all one needs to do is to move the WML-event firing stuff outside the if? 20091109 19:43:43< Soliton> yes. although it also checks for loading which should still be done. 20091109 19:43:54< Soliton> the technical side is not an issue either way. 20091109 19:45:52< zookeeper> great! 20091109 19:47:14< zookeeper> so, just to reiterate: i don't think there's any reason to make any events unable to fire on turn 1. new turn likely being an exception. 20091109 19:47:22< silene> the only issue is whether we want to change a behavior that has been around for three years 20091109 19:47:46-!- Deusite_ [n=Tom@92-238-120-246.cable.ubr26.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:48:00< Soliton> i agree that's an issue but i suspect that behaviour has not really been used. 20091109 19:48:53< Soliton> and i found it odd for example not to get healed on turn 1 in some scenario (that failed to full heal because of some recall list switching or so). 20091109 19:50:00< zookeeper> that crossroads issue has only recently appeared. it has always relied on turn refresh triggering on turn 1. 20091109 19:50:12< Soliton> it used ai turn before. 20091109 19:50:17< zookeeper> ah, right 20091109 19:50:20< zookeeper> that's true 20091109 19:50:56< zookeeper> however, it's not defined behaviour and changing it doesn't make anything impossible to do, unlike the current behaviour 20091109 19:50:57-!- mordante [n=mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:51:19< mordante> servus 20091109 19:51:20< Ivanovic> hi mordante 20091109 19:51:25< Ivanovic> mordante: are you ready for 1.7.8? 20091109 19:51:26< Soliton> i'm pretty sure it's mentioned in the wiki. 20091109 19:51:27< mordante> hi Ivanovic 20091109 19:51:41< mordante> Ivanovic, yup still ready 20091109 19:51:46< Ivanovic> great 20091109 19:51:54< Soliton> it indeed doesn't prevent anyone to reimplement the old behaviour. 20091109 19:53:41 * Soliton goes home. 20091109 19:53:43< CIA-55> mordante * r39660 /trunk/src/server/user_handler.cpp: Fix some compiler warnings. 20091109 19:54:51-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 19:55:16< zookeeper> silene, so do you think you can make that change? 20091109 19:59:54< mordante> Soliton, can you have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555276 later 20091109 20:00:13< zookeeper> currently there's at least a couple of campaign scenarios broken by the current behaviour, not sure about UMC 20091109 20:01:12< mordante> Rhonda, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555276 seems to be in code we only use for the stats site so guess it won't be backported to 1.6.x 20091109 20:01:38< silene> zookeeper: will do 20091109 20:01:55< zookeeper> silene, excellent, thanks 20091109 20:02:01< zookeeper> i hope ivanovic waits for it ;) 20091109 20:02:41< mordante> Soliton, and maybe we should do as suggested in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555277 20091109 20:03:11< Rhonda> mordante: *sigh* 20091109 20:03:18< mordante> Rhonda, ? 20091109 20:03:55< Rhonda> Well, whatever. Bad timing anyway. 20091109 20:04:20< Rhonda> mordante: And I'll split it out finally for the 1.7 branch, that might be the kick that I needed. :) 20091109 20:05:13< mordante> and not even filed by MK ;-P 20091109 20:10:09< Rhonda> Couldn't care less about MK. And MG is pretty close, at least the sounding of the letter isn't too much off. 20091109 20:14:02< silene> Ivanovic: have you already tagged or not? (that is, is it possible to commit?) 20091109 20:14:09< silene> +still 20091109 20:14:21< Rhonda> mordante: But this is fixed in 1.7.8 now, right? 20091109 20:14:50< mordante> Rhonda, no I just asked Soliton to look into it since it also needs to be changed on our server 20091109 20:15:34< Rhonda> Then 1.7.8 shouldn't get tagged yet. 20091109 20:15:38< Rhonda> silene: ^^ :P 20091109 20:16:20< mordante> it doesn't matter too much for the Debian package, more for our server 20091109 20:16:37< mordante> at least afaik it's not used by Wesnoth players 20091109 20:17:21< Rhonda> Why is it shipped in the package then? 20091109 20:17:52 * Rhonda sighs slightly. 20091109 20:18:32-!- silene [n=plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20091109 20:19:48-!- silene [n=plouf@ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-64-118.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 20:23:06< mordante> Rhonda, I'm not sure in which wesnoth package it's shipped :-/ but I'm quite sure it's in the source tarball since utils contains interesting things as well 20091109 20:25:25< Rhonda> It's in the -tools package because of the addon_manager 20091109 20:26:20< mordante> great that the bug is filed against that package :-/ 20091109 20:30:15< mordante> either I'm blind or Debian doesn't ship it 20091109 20:30:45< Rhonda> I'm looking for it. 20091109 20:31:04< Rhonda> oh 20091109 20:31:09< Rhonda> No, I don't ship it. 20091109 20:31:16< Rhonda> Then it's rightly filed against the source package. :) 20091109 20:31:24< Rhonda> *But* 20091109 20:32:45< Rhonda> We _do_ ship jquery.js and tablesorter.js in the addon_manager package. Isn't that part of prototype, too? 20091109 20:33:15< Rhonda> Hmm, no, jquery is something different 20091109 20:33:27< shadowmaster> (/32 20091109 20:34:09< boucman> Ivanovic: it might be a good idea to create a second room on the trunk MP lobby, so we can have better testing of the multi-room feature once beta1 is out 20091109 20:34:43< Rhonda> mordante: Then this doesn't hold up 1.7.8 from my PoV, if it's in the source only but not used in (my) binary distribution. :) 20091109 20:35:55< mordante> so upstream has some crappy stuff in it's source package, which isn't shipped with Debian and then the package in Debian should depend on a different Debian package... 20091109 20:37:29< Ivanovic> silene: i have not tagged yet 20091109 20:37:42< Ivanovic> and until i update the topic with a revision i use, it is not too late 20091109 20:38:23 * Rhonda . o O ( ... whenever I read "silence" I think "ACHMED!!" ) 20091109 20:38:49< CIA-55> silene * r39661 /trunk/ (changelog src/play_controller.cpp): Modified event 'turn refresh' so that it fires on turn 1, irrespective of healing/income/expense. 20091109 20:39:26< silene> Ivanovic: good, i'm done then 20091109 20:39:41< Ivanovic> silene, Soliton, zookeeper: so i can release 1.7.8-beta1 now? 20091109 20:41:25-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@nat-portal-160-94-47-16.uofm.wireless.umn.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 20:42:21< Ivanovic> mordante, Rhonda, Soliton: IIRC the *whole* utils/stats/ folder can be removed anyway, since it is deprecated by now 20091109 20:42:52< mordante> Ivanovic, it's the old stats part? 20091109 20:42:59< Ivanovic> exactly 20091109 20:43:02< Ivanovic> commited by radx 20091109 20:43:13< shadowmaster> :( 20091109 20:43:17< Ivanovic> the new one is not in the tarball but in the website/ part of the svn rep 20091109 20:43:23< boucman> Ivanovic: is there a note in RELEASE_NOTES telling add-on makers that the right time to port their stuff is now ? 20091109 20:43:26< Ivanovic> (where eg g.w.o is located, too) 20091109 20:43:41< Ivanovic> boucman: no, there is no such note yet, feel free to add something nice 20091109 20:43:49< boucman> ok, leave me a sec 20091109 20:43:50< Ivanovic> (that is: add it before i announce in some 24h) 20091109 20:43:57< mordante> ah ok, guess that makes bug fixing even easier ;-) 20091109 20:45:15< Ivanovic> jupp 20091109 20:46:05< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39662 /trunk/ (8 files in 7 dirs): updated German translation 20091109 20:46:06< Ivanovic> feel free to "fix" it right now 20091109 20:46:19< boucman> Ivanovic: we did (pseudo) reset the content server didn't we ? 20091109 20:46:40< Rhonda> Ivanovic: Then remove it from 1.7.8 tarball, please? :) 20091109 20:47:57< Ivanovic> boucman, Chusslove, crimson_penguin, crimson_penguin, deekay, esr, fendrin, grzywacz, loonycyborg, mordante, shadowmaster, silene, Soliton, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: ready for 1.7.8 aka beta1? (that is: if you are not, you got 12mins left to get ready or ping me before telling me why you are not ready) 20091109 20:48:09< shadowmaster> cmode -i 20091109 20:48:15< shadowmaster> er, I am ready. 20091109 20:48:16< mordante> Ivanovic, I'll fix the old stats code 20091109 20:48:24< Ivanovic> boucman: we stopped the 1.4 addon server and are running a compeltely new addon server for 1.8.x on that port now 20091109 20:48:38 * deekay gets some popcorn 20091109 20:48:43< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: What if an 1.4 client tries to connect? 20091109 20:48:51< CIA-55> boucman * r39663 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: add a note telling content providers that now is a good time to port content to 1.8 20091109 20:48:53< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: then it will see the 1.8 content 20091109 20:48:57< Ivanovic> that is the way it is 20091109 20:49:09< boucman> esr: if you have a sec, could you proofread r39663 ? i'm not quite sure of my english... 20091109 20:49:18< mordante> good that I didn't try to "update" wescamp today... 20091109 20:50:00< Ivanovic> mordante: no idea what is required regarding wescamp 20091109 20:50:15< Ivanovic> mordante: and i think we should wait with that till *at least* the first rc is out anyway 20091109 20:50:23< stikonas> Debian lenny still has Wesnoth 1.4 20091109 20:50:31< Ivanovic> (probably better till 1.8 final is out but not announced, as in "branch created) 20091109 20:50:34< Ivanovic> stikonas: bad luck! 20091109 20:50:37< mordante> Ivanovic, if somebody uploads something to 1.8 it would end in 1.4 for wescamp 20091109 20:50:53< Ivanovic> stikonas: I#d guess that lenny is not really something to use on desktop systems anyway 20091109 20:50:56< mordante> Ivanovic, are we in such shortage of port numbers then? 20091109 20:51:06< Ivanovic> mordante: i don't think we are in shortage 20091109 20:51:15< Ivanovic> but that is what soliton setup today at wesnoth.org 20091109 20:51:35< stikonas> then why Debian lenny is stopping us from using higher boost versions? 20091109 20:52:13< Ivanovic> stikonas: because IIRC we are using lenny on our server 20091109 20:52:18< Ivanovic> and *boost* is required there, too 20091109 20:52:28< stikonas> oh, thanks for explanation 20091109 20:52:30< Ivanovic> though i don't care too much regarding clients running the version packages in lenny 20091109 20:53:11< Ivanovic> and i'd guess that the 1.4 mp server will be shut down when 1.8 is out 20091109 20:56:10< CIA-55> mordante * r39664 /trunk/ (changelog utils/stats/): 20091109 20:56:10< CIA-55> Removed the old unused stats code. 20091109 20:56:10< CIA-55> Fixes Debian bug #555276, CVE-2007-2383, CVE-2008-7720. 20091109 20:56:43< mordante> Rhonda, actually fixes both 555276 and 555277^ 20091109 20:59:01< mordante> Rhonda, do you want me to send email to the Debian bug tracker or will you handle that? 20091109 21:01:04-!- shadowm_rly [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 21:01:09< Rhonda> mordante: It's the same, I don't see any difference between the two bugs. 20091109 21:01:10< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39665 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): set addonserver port to 15001 to make sure that it does not interfere with (more common) older versions that might still be used by distributions relying on anchient versions (debian anyone? ;) ) 20091109 21:01:24< Rhonda> mordante: And already sent a mail, severity set to minor. 20091109 21:01:32-!- shadowm_rly [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Client Quit] 20091109 21:03:31< Crab_> boucman: I've finally found time to set up a test of alink's bugfixes to ai targeting. It's slow (those bugfixes have to be tested on a large map, ~3 minutes per game), but I hope to have enough data in a few days. 20091109 21:03:38< mordante> Rhonda, the first complains about the CVE in the embedded version, the second to use a different Debian package... and yes IMO it should have been one report 20091109 21:03:56< boucman> Crab_: sounds cool 20091109 21:04:24< boucman> you're going to add this to your AI stat website, I guess... 20091109 21:04:25< mordante> Rhonda, and actually no Debian bug report since it was only in the source package and not in the Debian packages 20091109 21:04:33< Ivanovic> Crab_: great! 20091109 21:04:34< Crab_> http://wesnoth.terraninfo.net/index.php?dim1=ai_ident_me&latest_svn_only=yes 20091109 21:04:47-!- lizard_r [n=Miranda@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has quit ["Saurian Augur - I'll heal you by 4 hp if you leave next to me"] 20091109 21:04:48< Ivanovic> okay, everyone ready now that port 15001 is used for addons? 20091109 21:04:57< boucman> good for me 20091109 21:05:04< Ivanovic> Soliton: i changed ports, so in theory the 1.4.x addon server can be restarted at 15005 20091109 21:05:12< boucman> Crab_: ouch 20091109 21:05:17< Ivanovic> the new one for 1.8.x is running on 15001 20091109 21:05:19< mordante> Ivanovic, I'm ready again 20091109 21:05:28< boucman> this targetting makes the AI 1/3 more efficiant ? 20091109 21:05:32< boucman> that's impressive... 20091109 21:05:47< Crab_> boucman: too early to say, maybe it just got lucky with faction selection 20091109 21:05:56< Crab_> boucman: but the bug was quite impressive, as well :) 20091109 21:05:56-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.7.8 *now*, using r39665 | string/feature freeze active! | 63 bugs, 246 feature requests, 10 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20091109 21:06:20< boucman> 21 game is not enough to do stats, but it would be a big strike of luck... 20091109 21:07:52< Ivanovic> wow, average game time of 5mins 20091109 21:07:59< Ivanovic> so it really takes a long while... 20091109 21:08:43< Crab_> but, basically, the map is big (_Cynsaun_Battlefield). so, resource advantage matters a lot. and, with alink's changes, ai is more efficient in target (and villages are targets) selection (esp. in regards those targets which take 2+ turns to reach). 20091109 21:09:27< boucman> well, once we have enough stats, that's a change that definitely worth porting to the stable AI 20091109 21:10:02< mordante> indeed looks impressive 20091109 21:10:17< Soliton> mordante: no need for me to look into those bugs, yes? 20091109 21:10:35< mordante> Soliton, indeed no longer needed 20091109 21:10:59< Soliton> ok. 20091109 21:11:06< Ivanovic> Soliton: please check wesnoth.org that i updated the correct stuff 20091109 21:11:31< Soliton> the 1.4 mp server will indeed be stopped when 1.8 comes out but we can keep the addon servers running longer of course. 20091109 21:11:32< Ivanovic> i edited campaignd/1.8/server.cfg and changed the port there plus i edited .screenrc-campaignd-startup 20091109 21:11:49< Soliton> Ivanovic: that should be all. 20091109 21:12:06< Ivanovic> the problem with the addon server is that people might (by accident) upload 1.4 stuff to the 1.8 server which would result in a *real* mess 20091109 21:12:13< Soliton> well and restarting the 1.4 server. 20091109 21:12:26< Ivanovic> i have not done this one 20091109 21:13:02< Soliton> i suppose we should add a version check to the addon server as well some time. 20091109 21:13:10< Ivanovic> jupp 20091109 21:13:21< Ivanovic> will you add an FR to the tracker so that we don't forget it? 20091109 21:13:34< boucman> Soliton: probably an easycoding task, btw 20091109 21:13:53< Soliton> yeah. 20091109 21:14:34< Ivanovic> most likely, since some tiny refactoring can probably be done so that the mp and addon server use the same code for this 20091109 21:15:07< Ivanovic> (that is the version check is only required for upload though, not for download) 20091109 21:18:37< CIA-55> soliton * r39666 /trunk/src/server/game.cpp: code simplifications 20091109 21:18:40< CIA-55> soliton * r39667 /trunk/utils/mp-server/run_server: change the test port from 15001 to 14990 20091109 21:19:13< Soliton> oops, just wanted to change the script. 20091109 21:19:39< Soliton> neither is relevant for the release anyway. 20091109 21:19:52-!- SonIcco [n=SonIcco@pD9513197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 21:22:56< Soliton> restarted the 1.4 server. 20091109 21:34:31< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39668 /tags/1.7.8/: tagged 1.7.8 aka 1.8beta1, using r39665 20091109 21:34:53< Ivanovic> still busy uploading, this will take a while 20091109 21:35:11< Ivanovic> (damn, 260MB tarball already, i remember times when it was below 100MB) 20091109 21:37:19-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit ["KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/"] 20091109 21:38:01-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 21:40:07< esr> Ivanovic: It's all those campaigns I mainlined, of course :-) 20091109 21:41:44< shadowmaster> esr: nope. 20091109 21:41:51< shadowmaster> it's all those music tracks I and someone else mainlined. 20091109 21:41:56< esr> :-) 20091109 21:42:00< shadowmaster> oh, and the portraits. The nice high-res portraits 20091109 21:42:07< esr> :-) 20091109 21:42:28< esr> (I was joking, in case it wasn't obvious.) 20091109 21:42:32< Ivanovic> portraits, animations, terrains, translations, music, content, ... 20091109 21:42:54< stikonas> Well, wesnoth ships 2 copies of each portrait, how do you expect to make tarball small if duplicate content is being shipped 20091109 21:43:06< esr> I know the additional WML is pretty small compared to the other stuff. And compressed better. 20091109 21:44:50< esr> No, my real achievement in that area - and now I'm serious - was doubling the number of campaigns we ship wile actually decreasing the WML maintainers' bug load. 20091109 21:44:53< mordante> I'm off night 20091109 21:45:24-!- mordante [n=mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit ["Leaving"] 20091109 21:52:05-!- Aethaeryn [n=Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit ["bbl"] 20091109 22:01:37< boucman> esr: yes indeed, and you havn't been thanked enough for that 20091109 22:01:44< boucman> that's a real achievement 20091109 22:02:14< esr> It was fun to do. 20091109 22:02:48< shadowmaster> and the wesnoth-umc-dev project also helped... :P 20091109 22:03:29< esr> Indeed it did. And you deserve serious kudos for having taken the responsibility for making that work. 20091109 22:03:51< shadowmaster> AI0867 and I. 20091109 22:04:11< shadowmaster> mainly AI0867 in terms of commits 20091109 22:07:29-!- [Relic] [n=[Relic]@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 22:08:27-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.140.238] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 22:08:54< [Relic]> Hello :) 20091109 22:09:33-!- loonycyborg [n=sergey@79.139.140.238] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 22:22:32< Ivanovic> grzywacz: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=392853#p392853 20091109 22:30:32-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-4-147-234.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 22:35:40-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20091109 22:37:13-!- elynia [n=shyde@wesnoth/umc-dev/misc/elynia] has quit ["nyu"] 20091109 22:45:16< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39669 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): post release version bump to 1.7.8+svn 20091109 22:47:49-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091109 22:49:20-!- dtiger [n=dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-12-122.telecom.by] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 22:49:58< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39670 /trunk/ (13 files in 12 dirs): updated Polish translation 20091109 22:50:05-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.7.8, announcing "soon" | string/feature freeze active! | 63 bugs, 246 feature requests, 10 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20091109 22:50:27< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin, loonycyborg: tarball for 1.7.8 is online 20091109 22:57:26< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: oh yeah, I was gonna compile... keep getting sidetracked 20091109 22:57:41< Ivanovic> :) 20091109 22:59:16< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: I don't need tarballs. I checkout tags :P 20091109 22:59:16< loonycyborg> And I'm already uploading. 20091109 22:59:26< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: good 20091109 23:00:21-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 23:02:45-!- SonIcco [n=SonIcco@pD9513197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 23:11:33-!- giusef [n=giusef@host178-9-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 23:11:47-!- silene [n=plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has quit ["Leaving."] 20091109 23:14:24< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Uploaded. 20091109 23:15:03< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: good 20091109 23:22:24< boucman> night all 20091109 23:22:33-!- boucman [n=rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit ["Leaving."] 20091109 23:29:13-!- shikadibot [n=shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has quit ["manual override"] 20091109 23:29:39-!- shikadibot [n=shikadi@wesnoth/umc-dev/bot/shikadibot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 23:34:32 * crimson_penguin gave up on beating loonycyborg this time 20091109 23:34:46< crimson_penguin> anyway, I'm in the middle of compiling now 20091109 23:49:43-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.140.238] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 23:51:50-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091109 23:52:05-!- loonybot [n=loonybot@79.139.140.238] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 23:52:33-!- Sirp [n=user@wesnoth/developer/dave] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20091109 23:57:28< Ivanovic> okay, time for me to head off to bed and find some sleep, n8 --- Log closed Tue Nov 10 00:00:34 2009