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20091115 00:50:50< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39765 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): updated Polish translation
20091115 00:51:46< Ivanovic> esr: it would be *great* if you could work on writing an announcement for wesnoth 1.8
20091115 00:52:42< Ivanovic> as reference this is the text used for 1.6:
20091115 00:52:49< esr> OK, I can do that.  Gathering the list of features to brag about will be the hard part; has anyone been keeping a list? 
20091115 00:52:50< Ivanovic> (source): http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/website/start/1.6/template.html?rev=33919&view=markup
20091115 00:53:14< Ivanovic> resulting website: http://wesnoth.org/start/1.6/index.en.html
20091115 00:53:22< shadowmaster> DM (which was introduced from the wesnoth-umc-dev project!) for starters
20091115 00:53:36< esr> Of course.
20091115 00:54:00< Ivanovic> esr: DM, new mp lobby, improved AI eg visible in a reworked LOW
20091115 00:54:13< Ivanovic> hundreds of new portraits
20091115 00:54:26< Ivanovic> several unit lines completely redone, eg the drakes
20091115 00:54:36< Ivanovic> lua support
20091115 00:54:37< shadowmaster> several new music tracks
20091115 00:54:47< shadowmaster> (oh, and two updated ones)
20091115 00:55:26< stikonas> localized images
20091115 00:55:58< shadowmaster> add-on descriptions can be seen (not in the most comfortable manner, but...)
20091115 00:56:54< Ivanovic> there are probably some new terrains (eg orc villages?) as well as some new mp maps
20091115 00:58:51< esr> Any way to get a list of new music tracks and MP maps?
20091115 00:59:03< Ivanovic> i'd guess: changelog
20091115 00:59:17< shadowmaster> and svn log
20091115 00:59:32< shadowmaster> I actually forgot to add one or more music tracks to the changelog in earlier versions.
20091115 01:00:00< Ivanovic> shame on you, shadowmaster!
20091115 01:00:03< shadowmaster> in my defense, I'm the only one who actually put the track names and threads in the commit messages!
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20091115 01:00:52< Ivanovic> commit messages are nice to have, but changelog entries are more important for getting a nice and quick overview
20091115 01:00:54< Ivanovic> ;)
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20091115 01:03:18< esr> OK, I'll mine the changelog.
20091115 01:04:03< Ivanovic> great, thanks
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20091115 01:23:36< stikonas> would it be hard to show localized logo (if available) in translated 1.8 release announcements?
20091115 01:24:27< Espreon> Yes, show off a localized logo. Preferably the Latin logo, as it uses the latest process.
20091115 01:24:57< esr> Ivanovic: A beginning http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m74182960
20091115 01:26:15< stikonas> esr: full stop is not necessary after Shavian alphabet at the very end of the draft
20091115 01:27:47< fabi> esr: LoW and the tRoW still have the Kalian location clash.
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20091115 01:47:36< esr> Ivanovic: Better version of 1.8 release announcement draft = http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m704074f4
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20091115 01:49:00< shadowmaster> needs to mention wesnoth-umc-dev
20091115 01:50:08< Espreon> Indeed.
20091115 01:50:27< esr> Supply some text?
20091115 01:51:04< shadowmaster> DM didn't come from /dev/zero, you know :P Also, Latin isn't a new translation IIRC, it just got a new maintainer who actually works.
20091115 01:51:13< shadowmaster> Or so I heard. Maybe Ivanovic can confirm.
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20091115 01:51:57< shadowmaster> esr: I'll provide after checking what's that smell of electric smoke
20091115 01:55:19< Ivanovic> latin was already included in 1.0
20091115 01:55:34< Ivanovic> and i won't read over the announcement since in theory i am already off to bed and deep asleep
20091115 01:55:41< Ivanovic> will look at it after getting up again, n8
20091115 02:01:05< shadowmaster> esr: as you can see in the 1.6 announcement, there's a sentence stating "This campaign was imported from the Wesnoth-UMC-Dev project, where it spent a few months being adapted for mainline."
20091115 02:01:20< shadowmaster> DM spent almost a year, if not more, though
20091115 02:01:50< shadowmaster> also thanks to AI0867 and truly yours we can now link to http://wesnoth-umc-dev.sourceforge.net instead of a bland forum thread.
20091115 02:05:00< shadowmaster> esr: also, you missed the following music tracks: 
20091115 02:06:21< shadowmaster> Casualties of War (Tyler Johnson, new); Into the Shadows (Tyler Johnson, new); Legends of the North (West, updated old version in mainline); Breaking the Chains (West, updated old version in mainline)
20091115 02:07:03< stikonas> btw, are there any plans to mainline IfTU sometime in the future?
20091115 02:07:06< shadowmaster> Legends of the North was actually finished as the version mainlined with NR wasn't definitive.
20091115 02:07:13< shadowmaster> stikonas: ugh.
20091115 02:07:52< Espreon> It is nowhere near meeting the art requirements...
20091115 02:08:16< stikonas> I've never played it myself...
20091115 02:08:22< shadowmaster> esr: it would also be good to make clear that some of the new stuff (portraits, new lobby interface) were products of our Summer of Art program and Google's Summer of Code
20091115 02:08:24< Espreon> 'Tis fun.
20091115 02:09:09< Espreon> Yes, all of these projects need to be emphasized... Things just do not come out of nowhere...
20091115 02:13:19< shadowmaster> esr: also "the Dwarvish Scout from UtBS is now part of normal dwarvish sides in campaigns - that sounds a bit misleading and should be "[the unit line] is now available for using in any campaigns" or similar instead of "[the unit line] is now part of normal Dwarvish sides in campaigns". Mentioning that TSI's art also influenced the decision could help, since IIRC this wasn't done until TSI finished the new spriteset for ...
20091115 02:13:26< shadowmaster> ... thoes guys.
20091115 02:13:41< shadowmaster> splitlong.pl script ftw
20091115 02:14:06< shadowmaster> esr: additionally I believe Icelandic was introduced with 1.6
20091115 02:14:17< esr> shadowmaster: I tend to avoid crediting by name in trelease announcements.  Otherwise where would you stop?
20091115 02:14:33< shadowmaster> yes, yes it was introduced in 1.6, confirmed.
20091115 02:14:54< esr> Fixed.
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20091115 02:15:23< shadowmaster> This is a major release announcement, and the mentions of Wesnoth-UMC-Dev, Google Summer of Code and (new this year!) Wesnoth's Summer of Art Scolarship are IMHO essential
20091115 02:15:47< esr> This reminds me of a long-term FR of mine I nred to bug Mordante about.  I want to be able to place item and scenery graphics directly in maps with the map editor.
20091115 02:15:56< shadowmaster> especially since the latter is pretty much the only reason for the existence of those hundreds of new portraits from kitty and sprites from TSI
20091115 02:16:18< shadowmaster> *sprite animations
20091115 02:16:47< esr> Mentions of "Wesnoth-UMC-Dev, Google Summer of Code and Summer of Art are in my master now. 
20091115 02:17:01< shadowmaster> esr: that's been discussed ... in many oportunities AFAIK and the decision was "won't happen because it's a map editor, not a scenario editor" or something along those lines
20091115 02:17:53< esr> But I th9nk scenery - when it's static - is properly regarded as part of the map.  E.g. I should be able to place signposts....
20091115 02:19:11< esr> And standing stones.  And stuff like that.
20091115 02:19:39< shadowmaster> I also think we need more signposts, they're all ACME signposts :(
20091115 02:20:07< Espreon> True.
20091115 02:20:24 * esr says "Meep! Meep!"
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20091115 02:23:09< shadowmaster> also, the "replacing earth-human names for characters..."
20091115 02:23:31< shadowmaster> there are guys named Robert both in TRoW 2 and HttT 10 (the latter is an enemy leader even)
20091115 02:23:45< shadowmaster> (can we call them just Bob?) :P
20091115 02:24:20< esr> I'll look.
20091115 02:28:08< esr> Hm, I'll have to fix those.
20091115 02:29:35< shadowmaster> you'll rename them Bob?
20091115 02:30:35< esr> No, I'll give them proper (already translated) names from the main list.
20091115 02:31:14< shadowmaster> but at least the Poacher could be Bob...;)
20091115 02:36:00< CIA-55> esr * r39766 /trunk/data/campaigns/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
20091115 02:36:00< CIA-55> Replace a few remnant Earth-human proper names with existing (thus,
20091115 02:36:00< CIA-55> already translated) Wesnothian ones. Will require a pot-update.
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20091115 02:58:23< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Latin isn't "new" but it's basically being completely rewritten.
20091115 02:58:52< shadowmaster> redirecting to esr
20091115 02:58:57< Aethaeryn> Maybe only 1/5 to 1/3 of the original (incomplete) translation exists. Someone can run a comparrison.
20091115 02:59:07< Aethaeryn> If they really wanted to do a script when I'm done ;)
20091115 02:59:44< esr> That change is already incorporated.
20091115 03:00:33< Aethaeryn> In other words, if the original Latin translation didn't exist, the only thing it'd slow down is a few word choices and the (not yet done) HttT translation.
20091115 03:01:22< shadowmaster> in ther words, the snetence that highlit me was as much as I needed, thanks! ;)
20091115 03:02:38< Aethaeryn> I blame my wordy nature when I write on schooling, which emphasizes quantity (word or page requirements) over quality (the actual grading is rather relaxed)
20091115 03:03:05< shadowmaster> I once argued with a teacher about that.
20091115 03:03:18< shadowmaster> guess who won the argument ;)
20091115 03:04:47< Aethaeryn> My geography teacher in middle school didn't believe lions existed in Asia (India in specific)
20091115 03:05:23< shadowmaster> ... okay, you didn't even try to guess.
20091115 03:05:37< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: The teacher?
20091115 03:05:41< shadowmaster> yes.
20091115 03:05:55< Aethaeryn> The teacher always wins.
20091115 03:06:01< shadowmaster> ... by increasing the quality *and* quantity requirements for me
20091115 03:06:21< Aethaeryn> I would be 100x smarter than I am today if I was self-taught.
20091115 03:06:36< Aethaeryn> The current education system basically teaches students to get the grade, cram last minute, etc.
20091115 03:06:40< Aethaeryn> Nothing really on long-term learning.
20091115 03:06:45< Espreon> Yeah, I feel like I learn more if I learn on my own.
20091115 03:07:23 * Espreon 's school's teachings are against cramming. :)
20091115 03:10:34< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: same happens here with the test that students must pass to apply to any of the "traditional" universities
20091115 03:10:59< shadowmaster> (Spanish wikipedia article: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prueba_de_Selecci%C3%B3n_Universitaria)
20091115 03:15:41< Blueblaze> Aethaeryn: I'm not sure it is possible for any human to be 100x smarter than you are right now
20091115 03:19:39< Aethaeryn> Blueblaze: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole
20091115 03:19:58< Aethaeryn> Key phrases are "not meant to be taken literally" and "used to create emphasis"
20091115 03:21:23< Aethaeryn> Similarly, Obama's ears aren't really as big as political cartoons suggest.
20091115 03:24:18< CIA-55> esr * r39767 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: 
20091115 03:24:18< CIA-55> Repeated tries on Medium by the playtester I'm married to reveal a
20091115 03:24:18< CIA-55> balance issue - it's very hard to recruit enough troops at the cave
20091115 03:24:18< CIA-55> mouth not to get overwhelmed by Durstrag and the undead. I'm trying
20091115 03:24:19< CIA-55> making the chest of gold a bit richer.
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20091115 03:48:02< crimson_p> esr: so I can't look into that bug at all right now (or the other less serious one I already knew about), because my harddrive died
20091115 03:48:18< esr> Alas.
20091115 03:49:13< crimson_p> I filed an RMA request, hopefully I'll be up and running at least in under two weeks...
20091115 03:49:29< crimson_p> could be as early as a week
20091115 03:50:04< crimson_p> it's also slightly possible that one or both of these problems are due to a dying drive corrupting files
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20091115 03:54:57< esr> crimson_p: Yeah, it kind of smelled like a hadware problem tpo me, too.
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20091115 04:20:12< Aethaeryn> esr: extremely minor string issue.
20091115 04:20:30< Aethaeryn> Sometimes when they say (xx level, xx scenarios) it has a period at the end, sometimes not.
20091115 04:20:40< Aethaeryn> in the campaign menu
20091115 04:20:43< esr> Meh.
20091115 04:21:00< esr> Not worth breaking string freeze for.
20091115 04:21:22< Aethaeryn> Just Liberty, DM, and South Guard don't have periods I think.
20091115 04:21:42< Aethaeryn> no wait, South Guard has it
20091115 04:22:02< Aethaeryn> Just Liberty and DM...
20091115 04:22:14< Aethaeryn> esr: do you have a list of things-to-do-after-the-freeze?
20091115 04:22:32< esr> No.  Maybe you just started one :-)
20091115 04:22:33< Aethaeryn> It's extremely minor, but uniformity = professional.
20091115 04:22:40< esr> True.
20091115 04:22:43< Aethaeryn> Bah, i'll add it to my todo list.
20091115 04:22:54< Aethaeryn> "Bug esr about the periods after 1.8"
20091115 04:22:59< esr> :-)
20091115 04:24:12 * Aethaeryn has a very detailed list.
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20091115 04:31:47< esr> Ivanovic: I thought you'd gone off to sleep...
20091115 04:35:21< Espreon> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=27792 — LOL, WTF?
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20091115 08:01:21< mordante> servus
20091115 08:08:12< mordante> esr, the static items for a map should indeed by edited by a _scenario_ editor
20091115 08:08:35< mordante> esr, maybe after I finish gui2 I want another big project
20091115 08:10:00< mordante> I still think a scenario editor can be a great help for getting simple scenarios done faster
20091115 08:15:43< mordante> esr, can you commit your release notes here website/start/1.8 in the toplevel of our repo ?
20091115 08:16:03< esr> mordante: Sure.
20091115 08:17:09< mordante> thanks
20091115 08:17:13< esr> I would rarther that the ability to put signposts and standing stones and so forth on a map -- wherte I think they belong -- not be hostage to a huge undetaking like writing an entire scenario editor.
20091115 08:17:53< esr> Anyway, I have another meaty little project for you when GUI is done...
20091115 08:18:02< mordante> what?
20091115 08:18:24< esr> ...I need someone who knows GUI2 well to work with me on the UI end of doing save threads.
20091115 08:18:51< esr> I've written the substructure, the save ID management and list threading...
20091115 08:19:24< esr> ...but the GUI stuff to express it will be exactly the kind of C++ pain in the ass I most dislike.
20091115 08:19:57< esr> You remember my save threads proposal?
20091115 08:20:21< mordante> ah ok
20091115 08:20:58< mordante> yes I remember the proposal, but not in exact detail
20091115 08:21:17< esr> Yeah.  I think that will be a real UI improvent, worth of 1.9.
20091115 08:21:25< mordante> I think it needed a tree structure widget, which is on my todo list
20091115 08:22:26< esr> The idea is rthat the load dialohue now has two modes.  In one iot browses threads, which are save *sequences* rather than saves. Select a thread, then you're browsing the list o saves associated with it.
20091115 08:22:36< esr> Usually you want the tip one.
20091115 08:23:02< esr> Yeah, phase 2 would want a tree wiidget.
20091115 08:25:29< mordante> then it might happen I want to do this project before finishing gui2
20091115 08:25:54< mordante> it's always nice to have some new code when adding a complex widget
20091115 08:48:34< esr> It will be an acid test for your toolkit, yes.
20091115 08:49:08< esr> And now I must go sleep.
20091115 08:49:16< esr> Goodnight, all.
20091115 08:57:42< mordante> esr, the current acid test is called MP lobby ;-)
20091115 08:57:47< mordante> esr, night
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20091115 10:40:37< CIA-55> espreon * r39769 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Added the Latin version of the TRoW logo.
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20091115 11:10:39< CIA-55> mordante * r39770 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/mp_server_list.cfg: Don't reserve space for the scrollbars.
20091115 11:10:51< CIA-55> mordante * r39771 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (scrollbar_container.cpp scrollbar_container.hpp): (log message trimmed)
20091115 11:10:51< CIA-55> Allow content to notify about a resize.
20091115 11:10:51< CIA-55> At the moment when content of a scrollbar container needs a resize it
20091115 11:10:51< CIA-55> directly calls the window. If there are already scrollbars shown the
20091115 11:10:53< CIA-55> scrollbar container could handle the resize as well. Make that so.
20091115 11:10:55< CIA-55> When the scrollbars aren't shown the container might already be big
20091115 11:10:57< CIA-55> enough to handle the resize as well. This change is deemed too
20091115 11:11:00< CIA-55> mordante * r39772 /trunk/src/gui/ (dialogs/lobby_main.cpp widgets/scroll_label.cpp): Let scroll label ask for a resize when needed.
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20091115 11:44:43< Ivanovic> moin
20091115 11:48:52< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
20091115 11:54:17< Ivanovic> esr: please revert  r39766
20091115 11:54:39< Ivanovic> esr: this one does *not* work as "not breaking the string freeze" since those strings do not exist in the correct textdomain
20091115 12:14:37< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39773 /website/start/1.8/ (67 files in 4 dirs): 
20091115 12:14:37< CIA-55> add files to create the new announcement
20091115 12:14:37< CIA-55> so far this is basically a copy of the 1.6 announcement (including po files) where the content itself was replaced with "fill me with content" entries
20091115 12:18:00< Ivanovic> esr: it might be a good idea if you got yourself a checkout of /website/start/1.8 and put your changes in template.html
20091115 12:19:24< Ivanovic> svn co svn+ssh://esr@svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/website/start/1.8 wesnoth-1.8-announcement
20091115 12:19:27< Ivanovic> that should do the trick
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20091115 12:23:33< Ivanovic> crab_: would be nice if you could have a look at this one: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?14768
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20091115 13:15:59< CIA-55> caslav_ilic * r39774 /trunk/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Updated translation for Serbian.
20091115 13:16:43< CIA-55> caslav_ilic * r39775 /trunk/l10n-track: Updated localized images for Serbian.
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20091115 13:52:14< CIA-55> mordante * r39776 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/lobby_main.cfg: 
20091115 13:52:14< CIA-55> Let the player area grow.
20091115 13:52:14< CIA-55> After it's fully grown it's possible to let the list do it's own
20091115 13:52:14< CIA-55> resizing.
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20091115 14:03:02< Ivanovic> mordante: somehow you *really* broke wesnoth
20091115 14:03:14< Ivanovic> i just tried to build, install and start latest wesnoth
20091115 14:03:47< Ivanovic> hmm, no, seems to be somehow on my end
20091115 14:03:52< Ivanovic> 1.7.8 is broken, too
20091115 14:03:55< Ivanovic> *ARGH*!
20091115 14:06:13< Ivanovic> wow, looks like sdl-image-1.2.9 is *really* broken
20091115 14:06:22< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: you use gentoo, too, right?
20091115 14:06:34< Ivanovic> would be nice if you could check if wesnoth does work for you with that package...
20091115 14:07:22< Ivanovic> log output is *really* not nice... http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m6c941164
20091115 14:10:15< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Firstly check what USE-flags your sdl-image is installed with.
20091115 14:10:32< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: the use flags are correct, png and jpeg are there
20091115 14:10:42< Ivanovic> downgrading sdl-image worked, things are back to normal
20091115 14:11:30< Ivanovic> same problem on my laptop btw, so not arch specific (using x86 on the laptop, amd64 on the desktop)
20091115 14:12:41< Ivanovic> mordante: changing the resolution via the window border works nicely now
20091115 14:13:07< Ivanovic> mordante: changing resolution via the ingame resolution dialog still results in black borders when a higher res is selected
20091115 14:13:18< Ivanovic> (the same for switching to a higher res in fullscreen)
20091115 14:13:49< Ivanovic> wow, nice segfault...
20091115 14:14:46< Ivanovic> (all windowed) switched from 1024x768 to 800x600 via the ingame menu, not everything was displayed, as in "resize failed", tried to increase the window size "a little" by dragging the window corner, result: segfault
20091115 14:15:35< Ivanovic> jupp, reproduceable crash, now i got some message:
20091115 14:15:36< Ivanovic> wesnoth-svn: /src/wesnoth/src/sdl_utils.cpp:1467: void blit_surface(const surface&, const SDL_Rect*, surface&, const SDL_Rect*): Zusicherung >>dst_rect.x >= 0<< nicht erf?llt.
20091115 14:16:27< mordante> I haven't tested with sdl-image 1.2.9 but I assume the missing images are indeed caused by that
20091115 14:17:19< Ivanovic> yes, they are
20091115 14:17:21< mordante> ilor why do we have a preferences dialog in the lobby in the first place ?
20091115 14:17:27< Ivanovic> the resize stuff is *a lot* more interesting
20091115 14:17:36< Ivanovic> mordante: because it was there in the old lobby, too
20091115 14:17:44< Ivanovic> eg so that you are able to turn off annoying music
20091115 14:17:44< mordante> why?
20091115 14:17:45< loonycyborg> It's a good thing I'm running stable branch :P
20091115 14:18:31< mordante> does ctrl-f work or not (if you don't have the preferences dialog open)
20091115 14:19:01< mordante> I've seen that blit_surface error as well, ignoring it until I have some other changes finished
20091115 14:19:07< Ivanovic> no, it does not work
20091115 14:19:25< Ivanovic> anyway, i am off for some hours, should be back in something like 6h
20091115 14:19:51< loonycyborg> It looks like sdl-image 1.2.9 is a recent addition. 
20091115 14:20:03< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: yes, it was in yesterdays update
20091115 14:20:20< Ivanovic> anyway, off now, cu
20091115 14:20:37< loonycyborg> Probably you should file a gentoo bug re that unless it's already filed..
20091115 14:20:50< mordante> I also get way more interesting crashes ;-)
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20091115 14:30:55< CIA-55> mordante * r39777 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (scrollbar.cpp scrollbar.hpp): 
20091115 14:30:55< CIA-55> Better handle a mouse event for a disabled widget.
20091115 14:30:55< CIA-55> This can happen if you have a scrollbar grip selected and the scrollbar
20091115 14:30:55< CIA-55> disappears (due to a resize) the game would end with an assertion.
20091115 14:31:01< CIA-55> mordante * r39778 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/lobby_main.cpp: 
20091115 14:31:01< CIA-55> Remove another invalidate layout call.
20091115 14:31:01< CIA-55> Not 100% sure whether it will work properly so comment it out instead of
20091115 14:31:02< CIA-55> really removing.
20091115 15:03:01< CIA-55> mordante * r39779 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/lobby_main.cfg: 
20091115 15:03:01< CIA-55> Another small mp lobby size improvement.
20091115 15:03:01< CIA-55> The chatlog now really fills the wanted area.
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20091115 15:21:48< CIA-55> fendrin * r39780 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/unit.cpp: Added a public method transparent() that returns the filepath to the transparent portrait of the unit.
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20091115 15:23:51< CIA-55> fendrin * r39781 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/unit.hpp: Added the transparent() method to the public section.
20091115 15:25:04< CIA-55> fendrin * r39782 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/data/gui/default/window/wml_message.cfg: Defined a cancel button in the wml_message dialogue.
20091115 15:30:17< CIA-55> fendrin * r39783 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/gui/dialogs/wml_message.cpp: 
20091115 15:30:18< CIA-55> Fixed wrong portraits displayed in the recall dialogue. Unit images are now displayed with team colorisation.
20091115 15:30:18< CIA-55> Disabled widgets that are empty.
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20091115 15:33:59< CIA-55> fendrin * r39784 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/menu_events.cpp: Made the unit's recall canceled if the player choses that.
20091115 15:36:21< CIA-55> fendrin * r39785 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/game_events.cpp: Added a todo for the cleanup phase.
20091115 15:43:07< mordante> Ivanovic, resizing seems to no longer crash for me, can you give it also some testing?
20091115 15:46:28< CIA-55> mordante * r39786 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/lobby_main.cpp: 
20091115 15:46:28< CIA-55> Renable the invalidate layout.
20091115 15:46:28< CIA-55> Reverts r39778 and add comment what's the problem with it.
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20091115 17:57:49< stikonas> Chusslove: hi, how did you hide the mouse cursor in tooltip.png screenshot?
20091115 17:59:47< Chusslove> stikonas: Hm... no particular way? The cursor is just missing when I take a normal screenshot. (The problem is if I *want* to have the cursor in screenshot :)
20091115 18:01:28< stikonas> strange, that's my screenshot: http://stikonas.homelinux.org/files/picture11.png and it *has* the cursor
20091115 18:03:11< stikonas> and this happens with both gimp and ksnapshot
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20091115 18:16:20< CIA-55> fendrin * r39787 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Dirty hack to display offboard units in the report dialogue.
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20091115 19:14:04< fendrin> New screenshot of the recall dialogue: http://imagebin.org/71788
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20091115 19:25:57< boucman> hey all
20091115 19:26:11< boucman> wesbot: seen thespaceinvader
20091115 19:26:11< wesbot> boucman: The person with the nick thespaceinvader last spoke 15d 7h ago.  14d 17h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: "night all"
20091115 19:27:50< mordante> Chusslove, I assume you don't use a coloured cursor
20091115 19:29:26< Chusslove> mordante: Right, now I've tried with colored one and it appears on the screenshot.
20091115 19:29:39< Chusslove> But I think this is precisely what's better in this case.
20091115 19:29:52< Chusslove> So I should redo it with the cursor...
20091115 19:30:55< mordante> we draw the coloured cursor ourselves and the normal one is handled as a normal cursor
20091115 19:30:57< mordante> stikonas, ^
20091115 19:32:48< stikonas> noted
20091115 19:35:03< CIA-55> fendrin * r39788 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/ (gui/dialogs/wml_message.cpp unit.cpp): XP and level number of the unit shown in the recall dialogue.
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20091115 19:48:36< boucman> hey Crab_
20091115 19:48:42< Crab_> hi boucman
20091115 19:48:51< boucman> Crab_: i've just assigned a (probably duplicate) bug to you
20091115 19:49:18< Crab_> I've just started fixing it.
20091115 19:49:26< boucman> oh
20091115 19:49:30< boucman> so it's not a dupe :)
20091115 19:49:40< Crab_> no, it's a different thing
20091115 19:49:43< zookeeper> boucman, i had something for you a few days back
20091115 19:50:13< Crab_> boucman: it looks like a 'stale cache' issue
20091115 19:50:33< zookeeper> <zookeeper> boucman, in http://gna.org/patch/?1123 you say it was committed, any chance it might have only went to a branch?
20091115 19:51:41< boucman> zookeeper: no, i usually don't work with branch nor close a patch until it's commited
20091115 19:51:49< boucman> no idea where it went, let me check
20091115 19:52:21< boucman> hmm
20091115 19:53:09< boucman> zookeeper: the patch commiter is in the about.cfg, so the patch must have been reverted at some point, weird...
20091115 19:55:34< boucman> wesbot: log 32955
20091115 19:55:36< wesbot> boucman * r32955 : add dfranke in misc contributors
20091115 19:55:36< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=32955
20091115 19:57:28< boucman> ok, apparently this one felt through the cracks and was never commited, i'll commit now
20091115 20:01:12< zookeeper> boucman, ok, great
20091115 20:01:34< zookeeper> pretty odd it was never spotted before
20091115 20:03:07< zookeeper> err, well, my FR and i never used it so far... -.-
20091115 20:13:21< Ivanovic> esr: around?
20091115 20:13:34< Ivanovic> esr: left you some messages in the log about 9h ago
20091115 20:13:58< Ivanovic> esr: one was regarding the string freeze breaking commit (yeah, adding names that exist in *other* textdomains is not allowed either...)
20091115 20:14:12< Ivanovic> the other regarding the announcement text and where to put it in the rep
20091115 20:14:52< Ivanovic> esr: please have a look at http://wesnoth.org/irclogs/2009/11/%23wesnoth-dev.2009-11-15.log
20091115 20:15:00< Ivanovic> starting at "20091115 11:54:17"
20091115 20:15:15< Ivanovic> the following 8 lines should have the stuff
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20091115 20:29:44< esr> Ivanovic: Will do.
20091115 20:47:09< CIA-55> boucman * r39789 /trunk/ (changelog src/game_events.cpp): recommit patch 1123, apparently I didn't the first time
20091115 20:47:35< boucman> zookeeper: ^^
20091115 20:48:03< zookeeper> got it
20091115 20:49:02< CIA-55> noyga * r39790 /trunk/po/wesnoth-httt/fr.po: French translation update
20091115 20:59:06< Ivanovic> esr: thanks
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20091115 20:59:39< esr> Ivanovic: Merging in the release announcement material now.
20091115 21:00:35< Ivanovic> great!
20091115 21:01:25< Crab_> esr: I've seen your links to the release announcement draft in the log.  section about ai is was not quite right (some things were outright false, and some things missing)
20091115 21:02:14< esr> Crab_: This would be a good time to correct me, I'm editing the announcement right now.
20091115 21:03:28< boucman> esr: i miss that link...
20091115 21:03:32< boucman> missed
20091115 21:08:41< Crab_> esr:   main points: 1) a modular ai, less buggy and easier to test, extend and modify via WML configuration, was developed  2) Numerous AI-related bugs were fixed (and, of course, some new bugs were added, but those will be fixed, too)  3) some areas of ai (usage of recruits and recalls, selecting targets) were improved  4) some of AI-related ideas were tested in LoW
20091115 21:09:45< esr> How is what UI have in rthere now wrong?  Wait, I'll commit so you can check.
20091115 21:10:22< CIA-55> esr * r39791 /website/start/1.8/index.en.html: Second draft of 1.8 announcement.
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20091115 21:12:58< Crab_> ' can be configured do dedicate a computer side to specific trasks including offense, defence, and area protection. ' is wrong - that was not reworked except a minor syntax change - (and, [protect_unit],[protect_leader] and such are somewhat broken atm [not much worse than it was before])
20091115 21:14:54< Crab_> and, some ai-related OOSes were fixed
20091115 21:17:15< Ivanovic> Crab_: don't forget the new way to "mass test" ai changes
20091115 21:17:29< Ivanovic> which might be interesting/relevant in the content developers section
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20091115 21:18:16< esr> Except maybe for point 3, these are too far down in the details fort a general release announcement.
20091115 21:20:54< ettin> hmm, website/start/1.8/index.en.html... it is that time of the year _again_? ;)
20091115 21:21:38< Crab_> esr: then, skipping details, something like 1) weak areas of old ai were improved 2)  a more powerful way to specify AI configuration in WML was added  3) some ai-related OOSes were fixed.
20091115 21:21:55< esr> Yes.
20091115 21:22:19< esr> Working on it.
20091115 21:22:40< Crab_> Ivanovic: I'll post some details in WML porting thread later, about new things wrt AI that are now available
20091115 21:23:03< Crab_> Ivanovic: imo, that will be a better place for details than a general announcement
20091115 21:23:34< Ivanovic> jupp
20091115 21:23:39< Ivanovic> ettin: looks like it is
20091115 21:23:41< Ivanovic> ;)
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20091115 21:24:44< CIA-55> esr * r39792 /website/start/1.8/index.en.html: Revise sections on the AI.
20091115 21:24:49< Crab_> thanks
20091115 21:25:41< esr> Ivanovic: I'll find replacement names from within the HttT domain - probably by lifting a few from very early and very late scenarios.
20091115 21:28:29< Ivanovic> esr: won't work
20091115 21:28:38< Ivanovic> since you changed stuff in trow
20091115 21:28:44< Ivanovic> so the stuff has to be from trow
20091115 21:28:57< esr> I'll deal with it.
20091115 21:29:19< Ivanovic> (to be more precise: from the textdomain wesnoth-trow)
20091115 21:56:12< mordante> Ivanovic, what's with the 1.7 addon server is it totally not used anymore (want to know for Wescamp)
20091115 21:56:36< Ivanovic> the 1.7 addon server is still running
20091115 21:56:49< Ivanovic> that is: it is used for 1.7.0 to 1.7.7+svn
20091115 21:56:51< Ivanovic> ;)
20091115 21:57:03< mordante> and we keep it running for now?
20091115 21:57:12< CIA-55> crab * r39793 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
20091115 21:57:12< CIA-55> fix bug #14768: made AI observe changes in allowed recruits, thus, fixing the
20091115 21:57:12< CIA-55> issue with AI not recruiting when some of its recruits are removed by outside
20091115 21:57:12< CIA-55> sources (such as by WML [disallow_recruit]) and fixing some related issues.
20091115 21:57:17< Crab_> boucman: ^
20091115 21:57:35< boucman> thx
20091115 21:58:12< Crab_> note than DKs recruitment is vulnerable to the same bug.
20091115 21:58:41< mordante> crimson_penguin, regarding the mac package, which version of SDL are you using and did you change compilers "recently"?
20091115 21:58:55< Ivanovic> mordante: i think so, not sure
20091115 21:59:02< mordante> crimson_penguin, we have this nice problem http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27788
20091115 21:59:25< crimson_penguin> mordante: I used SDL 1.2.13 I believe
20091115 21:59:29< Crab_> boucman: since it does a massive precache of recruitment data, and then, if, allowed recruits suddenly change, it's a problem.
20091115 21:59:42< mordante> crimson_penguin, vanilla or with patches?
20091115 21:59:57< crimson_penguin> vanilla
20091115 22:00:03< boucman> Crab_: hmm
20091115 22:00:08< boucman> fixable without dk ?
20091115 22:00:14< mordante> can you reproduce the bug in that forum post?
20091115 22:00:24< boucman> using an aspect for recruitement list or something
20091115 22:00:39< mordante> Ivanovic, ok 
20091115 22:00:43< CIA-55> crab * r39794 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/01_The_Uprooting.cfg: LoW 1: add a scaled-by-difficulty ai parameter to another orc side
20091115 22:01:18< crimson_penguin> mordante: well here's the thing: I was in a rush when I was compiling it, and I did notice the "cmd+something shortcuts make system alert sounds" bug, but didn't have time to fix it (and it isn't critical)... and then, 3 days ago, my harddrive died
20091115 22:01:29< crimson_penguin> so I can't test or fix anything at the moment
20091115 22:01:42< Crab_> boucman: theoretically, fixable (quick&dirty way: store current allowed recruit list to variable, check if it is still 'up-to-date' before recruiting. if it is not 'up-to-date', reevaluate)
20091115 22:01:59< crimson_penguin> it's possible these bugs came from my harddrive being in the process of dying
20091115 22:02:17< boucman> practically ?
20091115 22:02:21< mordante> autsch lost important things?
20091115 22:02:50< boucman> Crab_: deekay's recruitement isn't used in the generic case, so i wonder if it's worth it...
20091115 22:03:04< mordante> esr, I see we're going for another Christmas release ;-)
20091115 22:03:11< boucman> building an aspect for other AI to use and preparing for deekay has some time would be usefull
20091115 22:03:23< boucman> upgrading deekay's stuff, not sure
20091115 22:03:29< crimson_penguin> mordante: no, I should be fine on the data loss front; just have to wait a week (or so) for a new drive
20091115 22:03:45< Crab_> boucman: there are other problems which block the 'proper' fix of the issue. imagine a WML changing the terrain on the map - it'll break any recruitment which considers terrain and movement costs
20091115 22:04:02< mordante> good to hear you lost no data
20091115 22:04:06< boucman> Crab_: hmm
20091115 22:04:18< mordante> can you ping me when you have time to test some things
20091115 22:05:59< mordante> Ivanovic, just curious but should the release data be in template.html or index.en.html?
20091115 22:06:00< crimson_penguin> mordante: I'm suspecting a couple changes I made to the Objective-C code; I may have changed something to do with events to try to fix the beeping problem, which may have caused other problems
20091115 22:06:07< Ivanovic> mordante: template.html
20091115 22:06:16< Ivanovic> it will be copied over at generating things
20091115 22:06:23< mordante> Ivanovic, I expected that ;-)
20091115 22:06:26< crimson_penguin> and I changed another thing which fixed a warning and THEORETICALLY made things better, but, that could be a problem too
20091115 22:07:14< mordante> esr, the release notes should be in template.html not in index.en.html and there's a message on the dev ml about a typo
20091115 22:07:17< Crab_> boucman: DKs recruitment is a small 'operational' problem - it is much better than C++ recruitment but has some problems, but, as I know of its existence, I'm reluctant to improve (read:rewrite) C++ recruitment to be on par with it, hoping that someday DK will fix it and it'll become default.
20091115 22:07:48< boucman> Crab_: yes I understand that
20091115 22:08:08< mordante> crimson_penguin, there's a know bug in 1.2.13 and I guess we might want to fix it a second time, the first time was on Windows
20091115 22:08:16< boucman> i didn't ask you to fixed it, I asked if fixing was easy, you said no so we won't fix it :)
20091115 22:08:17< CIA-55> esr * r39795 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Fix some string freeze breaks and update a translation.
20091115 22:08:34< mordante> crimson_penguin, but it's easier to test it once you have your system up and running again
20091115 22:08:49< boucman> however, having the recruitement list as an aspect that is properly reevaluated seems to be a desired feature... (unless we already have that)
20091115 22:09:00< crimson_penguin> mordante: oh? what problem was that?
20091115 22:09:31< crimson_penguin> if we could make Wesnoth work with 1.2.14 that'd be great...
20091115 22:09:45< Crab_> boucman: the problem is, that, the data that needs to be reevaluated, is not 'recruitment list'
20091115 22:10:00< Crab_> boucman: on recruitment list changes, we need to reevaluate various 'caches'
20091115 22:10:17< Crab_> boucman: and those caches are (no surprise here) different on each recruitment implementation
20091115 22:10:34< boucman> mkay...
20091115 22:10:42< Ivanovic> esr: uhm, there were *many* balancing changes since 1.6
20091115 22:10:51< Crab_> boucman: so, to properly solve the issue, we need to separate recruitment into two things. "preparation" and "execution"
20091115 22:10:52< Ivanovic> esr: maybe Soliton can help with getting a list
20091115 22:10:53< mordante> crimson_penguin, the CPU direction flag not reseted properly... I hope to get .14 to work before 1.8 but no promisses
20091115 22:11:00< boucman> well, we can fix the engine side, we can't track each ai's caches in a reliable way afaik
20091115 22:11:29< crimson_penguin> mordante: keep in mind it's not JUST that display problem; the whole thing runs MUCH MUCH slower as well
20091115 22:11:53< Crab_> boucman: then, on each change of recruitment situation, we'll call "preparation" part, telling it about things that were changed
20091115 22:12:06< esr> Ivanovic: No balancing changes were listed in the players' changelog.  If Soliton can supply a list, fine.
20091115 22:12:29< boucman> Crab_: i think we need a generic "things that are not supposed to change in normal game have changed" callback
20091115 22:12:41< boucman> for all the recruitement/terrain etc.. changes
20091115 22:13:23< Crab_> boucman: there a lot of such things, and not all of them are 'material'
20091115 22:13:24< mordante> crimson_penguin, I know that's why I hope to get it working, I'm quite sure the display problem should be doable
20091115 22:13:42< Crab_> boucman: e.g. if the AI has placed a new target on map, that's a change that affects recruitment
20091115 22:13:52< Crab_> and it's done tens of times per turn
20091115 22:14:24< crimson_penguin> mordante: oh, ok
20091115 22:14:34< Crab_> boucman: so, yes, we need something like a C++ 'non-generic event' system which will automatically invalidate all such caches
20091115 22:14:56< boucman> k
20091115 22:15:08< boucman> Crab_: we need some time to think about it, I think
20091115 22:15:12< Crab_> it'll also fix some other issues in ai move/targeting  phase
20091115 22:16:05< Crab_> currently, I use just some 'generic' callbacks (e.g. "gamestate changed", "turn started") to invalidate caches
20091115 22:16:33< Crab_> I've added another one, "recruit list changed", to deal with this bug for C++-based recruitment.
20091115 22:17:56< Crab_> boucman: btw, we can also solve this issue by adding a fai function to 'register' a callback on such event,
20091115 22:18:42< Crab_> boucman: e.g. something like " register_callback('recall_list_changed', 'formula to evaluate'); "
20091115 22:20:39< Ivanovic> ettin: around?
20091115 22:20:56< Ivanovic> ettin: i got some problems creating po files out of the new version of the announcement
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20091115 22:21:35< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39796 /website/start/1.8/template.html: the edits should go into template.html, *not* into index.en.html
20091115 22:21:47< Ivanovic> that is the template.html file *looks* good to me (as in the changes by esr), but po4a posts stuff about wrong closing tags...
20091115 22:21:49< Ivanovic> template.html:237: (po4a::xml)
20091115 22:21:50< Ivanovic>                Unexpected closing tag </div> found. The main document may be wrong.
20091115 22:22:02< Ivanovic> esr: please do *NOT* edit index.en.html but template.html
20091115 22:22:10< esr> OH, OK.
20091115 22:22:20< mordante> regarding https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?14770 wasn't this a hal+SDL 1.2.14 problem ?
20091115 22:22:25< esr> Are you going to transfer the edits I've done?
20091115 22:22:32< Ivanovic> i tried to
20091115 22:22:45< Ivanovic> but running the pot-update has not worked
20091115 22:23:26< Ivanovic> that is: i think your changes are fine, but po4a does no longer want to create a pot-file from it...
20091115 22:25:20< ettin> Ivanovic: hmm, let me see...
20091115 22:26:34< CIA-55> jorda * r39797 /website/start/1.8/template.html: Close <p> section
20091115 22:26:41< ettin> Ivanovic: should work now
20091115 22:26:52< Ivanovic> ahh, okay
20091115 22:27:50< deekay> boucman, Crab_ I myself too hope that I'll have time to devote some of my "thinking" time for wesnoth. So far my "thinking" time is consumed by uni/work after what I'm like vegetable :S
20091115 22:28:39< Crab_> deekay: np. It's just that more and more bugs/things-that-would-be-good-to-do creep in :)
20091115 22:28:43< CIA-55> jorda * r39798 /website/start/1.8/: Ignore .stamp directory
20091115 22:29:03< mordante> esr, nice to see ilor redid the map editor again this year ;-P
20091115 22:29:07< deekay> Crab_: I understand.
20091115 22:29:23< CIA-55> ivanovic * r39799 /website/start/1.8/ (49 files in 2 dirs): generate po files from the new announcement version
20091115 22:29:53< esr> mordante: Wasn't this rthe cycle where he merged it back into the game binary?  Or is that old news?
20091115 22:30:24< Ivanovic> esr: so you can read the generated version, too:
20091115 22:30:26< Ivanovic> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/website/start/1.8/index.en.html?rev=39799
20091115 22:30:30< CIA-55> mordante * r39800 /website/start/1.8/template.html: Fix some typos.
20091115 22:30:58< mordante> esr, old news this year he worked on the MP lobby
20091115 22:31:17< esr> OK.  You want to fix that or shall I?
20091115 22:32:30< mordante> esr, I'll leave that one for you, I only did some minor typo erros
20091115 22:32:33< mordante> errors*
20091115 22:32:40< esr> OK.
20091115 22:35:38< Ivanovic> esr: so that you can quickly check things, you can in general just go to http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/website/start/1.8/template.html
20091115 22:37:16< mordante> didn't we also get new terrains eg the new forest tiles?
20091115 22:37:43< Ivanovic> rough guess: it was not mentioned in the players changelog
20091115 22:37:45< Ivanovic> ;)
20091115 22:38:39< mordante> are there things mentioned in any changelog? :-P
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20091115 22:41:00< Ivanovic> some stuff is in the "full" changelog
20091115 22:42:35< mordante> indeed "full" :-(
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20091115 22:49:54< mordante> ilor__, regarding https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?14729 the problem seems to be that in a player_list callback you delete all widgets in the player_list due to a call to update_gamelist()
20091115 22:50:19< mordante> ilor__, is that call really needed there? if so we need to look for a solution (eg setting a flag)
20091115 22:50:45< mordante> ilor__, I disabled the call locally and it seems to fix the crash, but I want to test a bit more
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20091115 22:51:14< ilor__> mordante: the update is needed in case friendship was altered, filters need to be updated then at all
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20091115 22:51:16< ilor__> *and all
20091115 22:52:20< mordante> ilor__, in that case we better set a flag that updates it later, removing the widget that generates an event in a callback is ugly
20091115 22:52:35< ilor__> okat
20091115 22:52:35< mordante> and I don't think it's something I can get working easily
20091115 22:52:39< ilor__> *okay
20091115 22:53:34< fendrin> mordante: the new forest tiles are in 1.6 already.
20091115 22:54:50< mordante> fendrin, ok thanks
20091115 22:55:17< mordante> ilor__, can you look into it, I think you know the best place to handle the flag
20091115 22:55:38< ilor__> mordante: I'll try to find time for it today
20091115 22:56:04< mordante> great :-)
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20091115 23:00:06< mordante> I'm off night
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20091115 23:25:16< shadowmaster> sure nobody minds if I use the wesnoth editor icon as project icon for wesnoth-umc-dev at SF.net
20091115 23:27:48 * shadowmaster won. Wesnoth doesn't have a project icon.
20091115 23:28:02< CIA-55> ai0867 * r39801 /website/start/1.8/index.en.html: Typo fixes in 1.8 announcement
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20091115 23:44:29< CIA-55> shadowmaster * r39802 /trunk/src/tools/ (cutter.cpp exploder.cpp): Fix compilation of cutter and exploder tools when using -Werror
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20091115 23:51:48< CIA-55> shadowmaster * r39803 /branches/1.6/src/tools/ (cutter.cpp exploder.cpp): 
20091115 23:51:48< CIA-55> Fix compilation of cutter and exploder tools when using -Werror
20091115 23:51:48< CIA-55> (Backported from trunk, r39802.)
20091115 23:55:15< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: Hm. I wasn't getting compile errors from those.
20091115 23:55:26< Ivanovic> AI0867: there is no need to fix anything in index.en.html
20091115 23:55:52< shadowmaster> loonycyborg: someone else was.
20091115 23:55:52< Ivanovic> AI0867: index.en.html is a copy of template.html plus some added links for "langs that got an html file"
20091115 23:56:09< Ivanovic> AI0867: if something is broken/wrong, just fix it in template.html
20091115 23:56:35< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: what's the path for the release notes checkout?
20091115 23:56:38< shadowmaster> I'm lazy.
20091115 23:56:41< Ivanovic> in theory those index.*.html files do not have to be there, they are just available to make things a little more convenient, i can just update here, commit and svn up on the server then everything is ready
20091115 23:56:51< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: instead of trunk it is website/start/1.8
20091115 23:56:54< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: I wonder why. Maybe different gcc version..
20091115 23:57:05< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: yes, but I don't know the repository root 
20091115 23:57:16< Ivanovic> type svn info in your trunk checkout
20091115 23:57:32< shadowmaster> I don't have a svn checkout.
20091115 23:57:36< Ivanovic> or check todays logs, i pasted it around high noon (european time)
20091115 23:57:54< shadowmaster> loonycyborg: 4.2.1
20091115 23:58:23< loonycyborg> I have 4.3.2
20091115 23:58:51< shadowmaster> check #wesnoth's log now and you'll see where that came from
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