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[n=quassel@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20091102 06:03:58-!- sandman [n=HP_Owner@65.27.99.139] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 06:04:16< sandman> Gentlemen. 20091102 06:04:24< sandman> Has anyone else been playing around with the wesband addon? 20091102 06:04:52< sandman> It is a _lot_ of fun. 20091102 06:06:40-!- hagabaka [n=quassel@cblmdm24-53-163-239.buckeyecom.net] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 06:07:26-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 06:09:44< Aethaeryn> sandman: It seems to be most fun with 2 players. 20091102 06:09:53< Aethaeryn> it can get boring with 1p, but 3p is hard to get together for such a long time. 20091102 06:15:07-!- John_R [n=john@24-117-2-36.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 06:20:15< sandman> Only wish there was a way to save your character to some sort of wesnoth central server 20091102 06:20:30< sandman> Or wesband central server, that is. 20091102 06:21:19< sandman> Would also be pretty cool if one could join into a game that's already running. Stuff like that, you know. 20091102 06:25:22-!- Mythological [i=Mytholog@77.28.119.189] has quit [] 20091102 06:31:46< Aethaeryn> Yeah. 20091102 06:36:13-!- lizard_r [n=Miranda@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 06:40:44-!- lizard_r [n=Miranda@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has quit [Client Quit] 20091102 07:02:08-!- NiveusLuna [n=rurounib@unaffiliated/niveusluna] has quit ["leaving"] 20091102 07:03:39-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@64.201.60.211] has quit [] 20091102 07:18:59-!- hagabaka [n=quassel@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091102 07:21:54-!- hagabaka [n=quassel@cblmdm24-53-163-239.buckeyecom.net] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 07:28:12-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-171-161-30.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 07:30:26< Zarel> Aethaeryn: What do you think of World Conquest? 20091102 07:30:37< Zarel> I wanna play an MP campaign that _isn't_ an RPG. :( 20091102 07:30:50< Zarel> World Conquest already has too many RPG elements for my tastes... 20091102 07:36:52-!- grzywacz [n=grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 07:37:53< Aethaeryn> Zarel: I don't like maps with power ups 20091102 07:38:05< Aethaeryn> As WML-fancy as my mappack gets, even including a survival, it doesn't have power-ups. 20091102 07:38:23< Aethaeryn> Endless War seems like an interesting idea 20091102 07:38:25< Zarel> Well, I mean, I can kind of understand stuff like holy water. 20091102 07:38:30< Aethaeryn> There's a thread. 20091102 07:38:32< Zarel> i.e. single-campaign power-up. 20091102 07:38:37< Zarel> single-scenario* 20091102 07:38:41< Aethaeryn> And by "power up" I mean, "+100 HP" not "arcane instead of blade" 20091102 07:38:48< Aethaeryn> as often holy water's a trade-off, not a pure benefit 20091102 07:38:53< Aethaeryn> since you're worse against orcs 20091102 07:38:59< Zarel> .......really? 20091102 07:39:05< Zarel> I thought orcs took normal arcane damage. 20091102 07:39:11< Aethaeryn> well, not orcs, humans :P 20091102 07:39:11< Aethaeryn> bah 20091102 07:39:15< Zarel> That's what I thought. :P 20091102 07:39:39< Zarel> Arcane is annoying precisely because humans resist it. :( 20091102 07:40:02< Zarel> Fire is more reliable. 20091102 07:40:10< Zarel> Except against drakes. 20091102 07:40:23< Zarel> But drakes come up significantly less often in campaigns. 20091102 07:40:34< Zarel> Anyway, do you know of any MP campaigns without that kind of stuff? 20091102 07:40:59-!- uzsolt [i=uzsolt@team.pld-linux.org] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 07:41:09< Aethaeryn> I don't realy know of any MP campaigns. 20091102 07:41:21< Aethaeryn> I saw one on the server being played, but it seemed like Northern Rebirth 20091102 07:41:37< Aethaeryn> Huge armies grinding in massive battles, where there's little of the small-core-army tactics typical to standard Wesnoth 20091102 07:41:50< Aethaeryn> In other words, when you have a line that takes up the whole battle three-deep, there's little concern for things like terrain 20091102 07:42:12-!- uzsolt [i=uzsolt@team.pld-linux.org] has left #wesnoth [] 20091102 07:43:53-!- uzsolt [i=uzsolt@team.pld-linux.org] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 08:01:40-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20091102 08:03:22-!- uzsolt [i=uzsolt@team.pld-linux.org] has left #wesnoth [] 20091102 08:03:47-!- Aethaeryn [n=Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit ["Exit."] 20091102 08:06:13-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@nat-portal-160-94-47-16.uofm.wireless.umn.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 08:17:36-!- hagabaka [n=quassel@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091102 08:20:04-!- hagabaka [n=quassel@cblmdm24-53-163-239.buckeyecom.net] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 08:24:09-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-171-161-30.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091102 08:36:24-!- Randorr [i=sascha@tclhelp.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20091102 08:39:10-!- zookeeper [n=l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 08:39:56-!- hagabaka [n=quassel@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091102 08:42:52-!- hagabaka [n=quassel@cblmdm24-53-163-239.buckeyecom.net] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 08:48:37-!- hagabaka [n=quassel@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20091102 08:51:22-!- hagabaka [n=quassel@cblmdm24-53-163-239.buckeyecom.net] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 08:55:16< noy> Zarel: ooh ooh want to live in anarchy with me? 20091102 08:55:40< Zarel> noy: I'm suspicious... 20091102 08:56:26< noy> I just watched Black Hawk Down, and if you avoid getting killed by maurading americans, it seems pretty good! 20091102 08:56:35< noy> you get AK 47s and you shoot them 20091102 08:56:38< noy> seems like fun 20091102 08:57:21< Zarel> :P 20091102 08:59:40-!- ilor [n=user@wesnoth/developer/ilor] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 09:22:26-!- mith1 [n=melvin@wnn72113.wireless.dtu.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 09:30:15-!- meric [n=Eric@124-168-161-101.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 09:33:23-!- Randorr [i=sascha@tclhelp.net] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 09:45:30-!- olik_ [n=olik@212-30-192-20.static.simnet.is] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 09:45:30-!- olik [n=olik@212-30-192-20.static.simnet.is] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091102 09:56:11-!- kane77 [n=kane@194.1.130.108] has quit ["There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."] 20091102 10:06:25-!- olik [n=olik@212-30-192-20.static.simnet.is] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 10:06:25-!- olik_ [n=olik@212-30-192-20.static.simnet.is] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091102 10:14:22< noy> Zarel: can you explain to me the "Sisyphean transition problem for anarchocapitalism" 20091102 10:15:07< Zarel> ...you act like I care about anything remotely resembling polisci... 20091102 10:15:17< noy> or does that just sound like a lot of big words and obscure references strung together that is intended to make it sound like something important 20091102 10:15:34< Zarel> Well, it was probably intended to make sense. 20091102 10:15:58< Zarel> I plan on taking maybe Philosophy 101 at some point, but that's as far as I'll go into the subject. 20091102 10:16:26< noy> Zarel: I'm almost certain you'll never come across it. 20091102 10:16:33< noy> (I was making a joke) 20091102 10:16:34< Zarel> Heh. 20091102 10:16:56< Zarel> Well, you know, internets, 3:00 AM broken joke detector, etc. 20091102 10:18:21< noy> or well I was making fun of someone else 20091102 10:19:02< Zarel> Did someone in that Debate Camp thread actually use the phrase "Sisyphean transition problem for anarchocapitalism"? 20091102 10:19:17< Zarel> I pretty much just started tuning out when they started talking about healthcare. 20091102 10:19:41< Zarel> I replied once because I was like "Oh, someone just made a sweeping statement against distribution of wealth in all forms, that sounds easy to knock down" 20091102 10:22:56< Ivanovic> moin 20091102 10:33:35< noy> Zarel: yeah, zaimoni did 20091102 10:33:47< noy> which I'm going to rip him apart for 20091102 10:33:58< Zarel> Teehee. 20091102 10:34:10< Zarel> What makes you suddenly decide to join Offtopic, anyway? :P 20091102 10:40:41< noy> basically to prove some of these people how idiotic they look 20091102 10:41:02< noy> after they questioned it when I called them on it in that thread 20091102 10:41:19< noy> sometimes its also helpful to brush up on these issues 20091102 10:43:37-!- Lancaster [n=Miranda@123.119.92.42] has quit [Client Quit] 20091102 10:44:27-!- Lancaster [n=Miranda@123.119.92.42] has joined #wesnoth 20091102 10:44:40< Zarel> Ah. Sounds like a valiant cause, then. 20091102 10:44:54< noy> not really 20091102 10:46:50< noy> Zarel: this is what alot of those people remind me of 20091102 10:46:51< noy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQezXbiroiE 20091102 10:50:50< Zarel> Less "outright plagiarism" and more "making stuff up", I'd say. :P 20091102 11:05:24< noy> Zarel: if you're interested I posted in that thread 20091102 11:05:35< Zarel> (I noticed) 20091102 11:17:40-!- mith1 [n=melvin@wnn72113.wireless.dtu.dk] has quit ["Leaving."] 20091102 11:26:57< noy> thanks Zarel 20091102 11:27:30< Zarel> It's 4:30 AM... 20091102 11:28:14< noy> I think you should go to bed 20091102 11:32:09< Zarel> After I'm done reading some stuff. 20091102 11:40:09-!- Appleman1234 [n=Appleman@131.181.100.195] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20091102 11:42:45-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20091102 11:51:56-!- meric [n=Eric@124-168-161-101.dyn.iinet.net.au] has 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