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20091128 02:59:50< brewmastr> what happened to extended rpg era for wesnoth 1.6?
20091128 03:00:27< brewmastr> what add-ons do I need in 1.6 to get the new player types like rogue mage, etc.?
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20091128 03:40:51< zooko> Does anyone know if you're supposed to use Bob's RPG Era with Brotherhood of Light?  :-)
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20091128 07:24:28< namad6> extended rpg era? whats that mean? also in the past 2years or so have there been any new campaigns added to the main default like stable branch?
20091128 07:24:59< Espreon> Yes.
20091128 07:26:10< namad6> lots?
20091128 07:26:47< Espreon> At least two.
20091128 07:27:23< Espreon> What was the last version you played?
20091128 07:29:26< namad6> no idea
20091128 07:29:34< namad6> i only ever played like 3of the original campaigns
20091128 07:29:36< namad6> like 2-4years ago
20091128 07:33:12< namad6> i'm reinstalling the newest one now
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20091128 07:41:15< namad6> ugh i can't remember which campaigns i've already played or not
20091128 07:41:29< namad6> are there any good campaigns that don't come with the game?
20091128 07:42:31< fendrin> "Invasion from the Unknown" is very good.
20091128 07:42:43< Smar> yeh
20091128 07:42:51< Espreon> Indeed.
20091128 07:42:53< Smar> it still doesn't come with the game?
20091128 07:42:57< Espreon> Yup.
20091128 07:43:04< Espreon> It doesn't meet the art requirements. :(
20091128 07:43:08< Smar> oh
20091128 07:43:30< Espreon> Most of the Shaxthals need to be redone, animated, et cætera.
20091128 07:43:31< fendrin> I think the main reason is that the author doesn't want it to be mainline.
20091128 07:43:47< Smar> that sounds more like it
20091128 07:43:58< Espreon> fendrin: When was that stated?
20091128 07:45:10< fendrin> I don't know the exact date.
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20091128 07:45:39< Smar> isn’t creator of the campaign somewhat a dev of wesnoth...? :)
20091128 07:46:00< Espreon> Yes.
20091128 07:46:24< namad6> what does not meeting art requirements mean?
20091128 07:46:30< Smar> so, not getting “proper” art for this long time sounds pretty strange
20091128 07:46:32< namad6> also i am looking for a relatively easy campaign thats relatively long
20091128 07:46:49< Smar> once they talked it were too big, but wel
20091128 07:46:54< namad6> i remember playing the default original campaign and also one about dwarves and possibly 1-2others in the past
20091128 07:47:30< Espreon> Smar: Uh, the creator is slowly respriting things.
20091128 07:47:42< Espreon> Very slowly...
20091128 07:48:02< Smar> hmm... ok
20091128 07:48:07< Espreon> Besides, he is a busy person.
20091128 07:48:34< Smar> I’m even more ;)
20091128 07:48:39< Espreon> Heh...
20091128 07:48:55< Espreon> And I am just too lazy to swiftly develop my addon.
20091128 07:48:59< Espreon> 'Tis sad, but true.
20091128 07:49:18< Smar> since I haven’t had time to even read wesnoth’s irc chans
20091128 07:49:18< namad6> anyone know of any good campaigns that are either novice or intermidate level that are relatively new and/or not included in the default game?
20091128 07:49:33< Espreon> Define "good".
20091128 07:51:39< namad6> like from my desired parameters
20091128 07:51:47< namad6> what would be your favorite among all that you know fitting said parameters
20091128 07:52:05< namad6> key requirements are not being too hard, not being too awful, not being too short, and me not having already played it
20091128 07:52:12< Espreon> Eh, then I wouldn't really know of anything.
20091128 07:52:14< namad6> but like it doesn't have to be super easy either
20091128 07:52:54< Espreon> I haven't played Wesnoth in the actual sense of "playing" for awhile.
20091128 07:53:08< Espreon> Only to develop, test, et cætera.
20091128 07:53:39< Espreon> * a while
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20091128 07:55:28< Zarel> ...
20091128 07:55:49< namad6> invasion from the unknown is probably too hard for me
20091128 07:55:50< Zarel> The Romans didn't spell it "cætera"...
20091128 07:56:28< namad6> although it says expert... after i start it up it lets me pick easy... hrmm 
20091128 07:57:37< Espreon> Zarel: IDC, as long as I have an excuse to use ash, I'll use it.
20091128 07:57:51< Zarel> :P
20091128 07:57:55< Espreon> Ethel doesn't get this special treatment, however.
20091128 07:58:23< Zarel> I have a company called æsoft for that precise reason: aesoft.org
20091128 07:58:33< Espreon> Heh...
20091128 07:58:40< namad6> i think i'll play descent into darkness i've never played it before, is it fun? is there anything i should know before istart?
20091128 07:58:41< Zarel> I've been using "AEsoft" more lately, though, because of fears it won't render correctly.
20091128 07:59:09< Espreon> Meh, forsake non-UTF-8-compliant clients.
20091128 08:00:50< MadMerlin> 7 bit ascii forever!
20091128 08:00:55< Espreon> Never1
20091128 08:00:56< Espreon> *!
20091128 08:01:19< Espreon> Ƿynn or GTFO.
20091128 08:05:56< namad6> are there any campaigns where you play as the drakes or the orcs?
20091128 08:06:00< namad6> i am sick of being humans and elves
20091128 08:06:06< namad6> err sick of dwarves too
20091128 08:10:17< namad6> eh?
20091128 08:10:27< namad6> no drake campaigns? even if its a mediocre nonoffical one?
20091128 08:10:39< noy> there was one
20091128 08:10:46< noy> it was not maintained
20091128 08:11:02< namad6> so it sucks?
20091128 08:12:12< namad6> how do i find an mp game to play? and does anyone suck at this game badly enough to play with total noobs?
20091128 08:13:09< Zarel> also: X-SAMPA ftw!
20091128 08:13:24< Zarel> namad6: There are two known unofficial mediocre drake campaigns, iirc.
20091128 08:14:01< Espreon> Ƿynn FTǷ.
20091128 08:14:21< namad6> flight to freedom?
20091128 08:14:22< namad6> and wahts the second
20091128 08:14:34< namad6> also how about orc campaigns?
20091128 08:14:50< Espreon> I think that the second one is called "The Children of the Dragons".
20091128 08:14:55< Espreon> Something like that.
20091128 08:15:29< namad6> bravewings?
20091128 08:16:09< Zarel> Brave Wings was the one I was thinking of.
20091128 08:16:29< Espreon> Then there are at least three.
20091128 08:16:50< namad6> the children of dragons is not listed when i clicked addons and sort alphabetically and look at both t and c
20091128 08:17:03< Espreon> Which version are you using?
20091128 08:17:07< namad6> stable
20091128 08:17:17< namad6> which i just downloaded and installed like 5minutes ago
20091128 08:17:23< Espreon> Probably hasn't been ported to 1.6.
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20091128 08:30:07< Soul_keeper> Hello
20091128 08:31:30< Soul_keeper> i'm creating a side this way in my scenario  http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d4a5610d5   how can I make  type=Yeti  work ?
20091128 08:31:36< Soul_keeper> it seems to ignore it
20091128 08:32:23< Soul_keeper> if I used  [side][/side]  to create the side then it accepts type=   but the side is no longer created the way I want it
20091128 08:33:03< Soul_keeper> [modify_side]  doesn't seem to work on the side after creating it the way I did either
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20091128 08:45:30< Soul_keeper> in what file is SIDE_COMPUTER defined ?  not getting anything usefull grepping around
20091128 08:47:28< fendrin> Soul_keeper: scenario-utils.cfg
20091128 08:47:43< fendrin> in data/core/macros
20091128 08:56:37< Soul_keeper> thanks
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20091128 10:17:39< Ivanovic> moin
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20091128 11:31:00< SekoIdiootti> I know this is the weirdest guestion anyone has probably ever asked... But how do the people in the world of Wesnoth treat gays? I mean... because there doesn't seem to be any gays in any campaigns or anywhere, I was thinking... Is there something that prevents them from being gay or do they just hide it? Or do they put them in jail? Or kill them? I was just thinking because I think it's...
20091128 11:31:01< SekoIdiootti> ...kinda weird, lol.
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20091128 11:34:39< Ivanovic> SekoIdiootti: you know, i don't see much of any kind of sexuality in wesnoth (looking at the campaigns)
20091128 11:34:44< Ivanovic> with other words: who cares?
20091128 11:35:31< SekoIdiootti> Yeah, well... LOL, I was just thinking because the sprite I'm making now (a new Swamp Dwarf) looks like he'd be gay, lol.
20091128 11:36:51< SekoIdiootti> because of his orange pants. (!!!)
20091128 11:36:54< SekoIdiootti> xD
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20091128 11:40:16< SekoIdiootti> Can a Swamp Dwarf have orange pants? I mean... He looks cooler with those, lol...
20091128 11:40:54< SekoIdiootti> ...but again, he's as tall as a human. :( I must shorten him...
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20091128 12:01:05< Soul_keeper> the Yeti pimp slap is the best
20091128 12:01:15< Espreon> Heh...
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20091128 12:04:13< Soul_keeper> MODIFY_TERRAIN Dd^Fi isn't working  but   MODIFY_TERRAIN Gg  does work, any ideas ?
20091128 12:06:21< Espreon> What happens when the code should execute?
20091128 12:06:47< Soul_keeper> the terrain just stays as it was before the modify
20091128 12:08:19< fendrin> Soul_keeper: This is only a guess. Try (Dd^Fi).
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20091128 12:11:58< Soul_keeper> fendrin, didn't work, neither does  Fi  go Gg^Fi   I guess   Fi  is the problem
20091128 12:17:27< Soul_keeper> Gg^Dr  works
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20091128 12:33:33< Soul_keeper> is there a button combination for toggle fullscreen ?
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20091128 12:45:11< fendrin> Soul_keeper: strg+f
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20091128 13:21:53< Soul_keeper> fendrin, what's strg ?  sys request ?
20091128 13:22:25< Soul_keeper> ahhh german
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20091128 13:26:33< fendrin> Soul_keeper: sorry, it should be ctrl on an english keyboard.
20091128 13:27:24< Soul_keeper> no, that's great I never knew they called it that 
20091128 13:27:27< Soul_keeper> good to learn something
20091128 13:27:39< Soul_keeper> thanks
20091128 13:28:02< Bactrian> Random interest question...
20091128 13:28:12< Bactrian> do drakes ever show up in any mainline campaign O_o ?
20091128 13:33:00< Espreon> Yes.
20091128 13:36:19< Bactrian> Thanks
20091128 13:59:59< fendrin> Soul_keeper: strg is short for "Steuerung" which is the same as controll.
20091128 14:00:58< fendrin> Bactrian: In LoW they show up in a single scenario. Northern Rebirth does have them on player side later on. 
20091128 14:04:04< Bactrian> Ok, thanks ^^
20091128 14:10:18< Espreon> And they are enemies in one scenario in TRoW.
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20091128 17:53:14< locomotiveman00> hi guys, anyone know who wrote the poems in the wiki and it's licensing?
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20091128 19:51:54< shevy> wesnoth requires lua now for compiling from source? just asking for verification here
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20091128 19:54:35< Soliton> i think it's mandatory now, yes.
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20091128 20:02:50< shevy> ok, builds now
20091128 20:02:57< shevy> hopefully cmake is faster than scons :D
20091128 20:06:02< shevy> hmm
20091128 20:06:25< shevy> http://pastie.org/718389
20091128 20:06:26< shevy> gcc version 4.3.3 (GCC)
20091128 20:06:35< shevy> trying to compile wesnoth-1.7.8 here
20091128 20:06:50< Soliton> note that 1.7.9 is out.
20091128 20:07:12< SekoIdiootti> Then the topic should be changed
20091128 20:07:15< shevy> maaaan
20091128 20:07:21< shevy> i think i downloaded 1.7.9 yesterday :D
20091128 20:07:27< shevy> going to try 1.7.9 then
20091128 20:07:40< Soliton> some odd error.
20091128 20:07:47< shevy> hmm oh wait though
20091128 20:07:52< shevy> webpage lists 1.7.8
20091128 20:08:04< Soliton> yes, it's not announced yet.
20091128 20:09:49< shevy> hey
20091128 20:09:56< shevy> who made http://www.wesnoth.org/mw/skins/glamdrol/home_portraits/selector.php/portrait.jpg or better the portraits there?
20091128 20:10:08< shevy> they seem to be more or less "new" to me
20091128 20:11:58< VurtualRuler98> Reminds me of World War I.
20091128 20:12:05< VurtualRuler98> Except the old ladies are spy.
20091128 20:12:24< shevy> old ladies are spies?
20091128 20:12:55< VurtualRuler98> I got a picture of a weird old lady in brown holding a balisong and looking scary.
20091128 20:13:34< VurtualRuler98> We have to spycheck that php.
20091128 20:13:57< VurtualRuler98> She keeps disguising as another unit.
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20091128 21:09:19-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth to: Wesnoth User Channel | wesnoth.org | http://addons.wesnoth.org | latest stable version: 1.6.5 | latest development version: 1.7.9 aka 1.8-beta2 | public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com
20091128 21:10:26< SekoIdiootti> :o
20091128 21:11:14< SekoIdiootti> "Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin:  http://wesnoth.pastebin.com" <- That makes me think like... links, etc.... But that's just me, I thinkn. 
20091128 21:11:16< SekoIdiootti> *think
20091128 21:11:51< mathstuf> "Don't paste spam on IRC!" ?
20091128 21:12:04< SekoIdiootti> lol
20091128 21:12:04< mathstuf> or, rather "paste-spam"
20091128 21:12:47< SekoIdiootti> Bye
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20091128 23:52:22< shadowmaster> rrr
20091128 23:52:51< shadowmaster> *grumble*
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