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20091207 00:00:10< Sirp> hi shadowmaster 
20091207 00:00:28< shadowmaster> Sirp: is the information on http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Donate still valid so it could be linked on http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=395928#p395928 ?
20091207 00:01:41< Sirp> shadowmaster: no, I don't think we really want to accept donations anymore, unless someone actually wealthy was interested in acting as a benefactor
20091207 00:04:00< shadowmaster> *nod*, do you want that page to be removed though? It's currently linked from two locations ( http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Special:Whatlinkshere/Donate )
20091207 00:04:41< shadowmaster> including what seems to be part of a Polish translation of some wiki page
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20091207 00:06:58< teaser> imho, you shouldn't delete the page just write something about that atm you don't accept donations but how about donating to fsf/sdl/boost/etc instead?
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20091207 00:14:02< shadowmaster> rr,,/query wesbot 
20091207 00:14:06< shadowmaster> paah
20091207 00:21:15-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string/feature freeze active! | 66 bugs, 245 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20091207 00:53:51< AI0867> fendrin: MOVE_UNIT_BY is currently unused?
20091207 00:58:10< CIA-62> ai0867 * r40165 /trunk/data/core/macros/utils.cfg: Simplify some WML
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20091207 02:00:50< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=28023
20091207 02:01:00< shadowmaster> some turn gambit into admin plz.
20091207 02:01:30< shadowmaster> & give him teh 'lord of wesnoth' title 2
20091207 02:03:29< loonycyborg> And sticky that topic :P
20091207 02:03:40< shadowmaster> NO
20091207 02:03:48< shadowmaster> MAKE IT A GLOBAL ANNOUNCEMENT!?11one
20091207 02:04:46< shadowmaster> I'll silently ignore it, although I find it hilariously OT.
20091207 02:05:28< shadowmaster> also, remind me why there have been zero Forum Regular nomations lately ;(
20091207 02:06:22< loonycyborg> I didn't even know that there were supposed to be nominations :P
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20091207 02:27:56< happygrue> shadowmaster: that's great.  :D
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20091207 02:29:49< shadowmaster> yes, who is "We"?
20091207 02:30:47< shadowmaster> who is "I"?  I mean, sorry, it sounds like Gambit is trying to get some kind of promotion in exchange for posting some sort of Posting Guidelines supplement.
20091207 02:31:18< shadowmaster> so c'mon, call the forum admin, we need to promote Gambit NOW.
20091207 02:33:35< shadowmaster> (or tell him to PM a moderator the next time; I'm waiting to see random forumers replying to the thread as if it was an unlocked version of PG)
20091207 02:40:38< happygrue> I've been pretty inactive on the forums for a few months now (busy busy!), but if you think his work is promotion worthy I doubt anyone will aruge.  :)
20091207 02:41:42< noy> got some time happygrue 
20091207 02:42:03< happygrue> in a bit, an hour and a half or so
20091207 02:42:48< noy> K well come online and we'll start something
20091207 02:43:03< happygrue> OK, I'll look for you
20091207 02:44:11< noy> happygrue: do you think you might have some time to play over the next coming weeks?
20091207 02:45:09< happygrue> this week is very busy for me, but after the semester finishes up (a bit over a week)  I'll have quite a bit of time over the break
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20091207 03:19:17< Zarel> noy: You there?
20091207 03:19:22< noy> yar!
20091207 03:19:46< Zarel> noy: Some guy is asking if he can get unbanned in #wesnoth-thunderstone
20091207 03:36:14< noy> Zarel: done
20091207 03:36:15< noy> thank you
20091207 03:36:35< Zarel> He said you weren't answering him when he tried to talk to you.
20091207 03:36:52< Zarel> Do you have PMs on auto-ignore, by any chance?
20091207 03:37:08< noy> my sound was off
20091207 03:37:11< noy> so I didn't see it
20091207 03:37:16< Zarel> Ah.
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20091207 08:18:43< fendrin> The context menu can't be controlled by keyboard. *seufz*
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20091207 09:09:34< CIA-62> fendrin * r40166 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/ (4 files): Implemented support for a key that acts like the right mouse button.
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20091207 12:16:55< Ivanovic> interesting read (just read the top so far): http://wesnoth.repositoryhosting.com/svn_public/wesnoth_wesnoth/trunk/wesnoth_notes.txt
20091207 12:17:06< Ivanovic> boucman: looks like there might be *many* nice things we want to port over to mainline
20091207 12:17:12< CIA-62> fendrin * r40167 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/data/core/hotkeys.cfg: Hotkeys default bindings for the move cursor stuff.
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20091207 12:26:38< fendrin> Ivanovic: Is that from the iphone port?
20091207 12:30:00< AI0867> yes
20091207 12:30:20< fendrin> Looks like it uses opengl on the iphone. 
20091207 12:36:41< Ivanovic> yes, he uses opengl
20091207 12:37:00< Ivanovic> like i already said, he spent *lot* of work with the port
20091207 12:37:08< Ivanovic> s/lot/lots
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20091207 12:40:04< Ivanovic> maybe we can port over quite many memory usage improvements...
20091207 12:40:11< fendrin> It looks like. The memory usage that he prints out there is very small.
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20091207 13:23:20< Ivanovic> i'm off to uni, cu
20091207 13:29:04< fendrin> Where is the macro wml preprocessing done?
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20091207 15:44:37< Crab__> yes, definitely interesting txt about issues uncovered by iphone port
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20091207 16:32:46< teaser> mordante, I'm not sure what you wanted me to say to you about the translate=true/yes thingy. Afaic the combined interface is borked atm since there is no easy way to confirm that things actually work (and with easy I mean without using special tools) I am sry I can't help out with this more right now
20091207 16:33:21< teaser> Once I get the hang of how things work I might consider writing something up for the wiki
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20091207 17:27:34< Ivanovic> hi
20091207 17:28:15< teaser> mordante: I fixed the wesnoth_addon_manager: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/d557cc54e
20091207 17:29:50< teaser> or so it seems by my tests ;)
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20091207 17:59:47< BroodKiller> crimson_penguin: did you try rebuilding wxW into the 32-bits by a chance?
20091207 18:00:08< crimson_penguin> 32-bits? I'm sure that wasn't the problem
20091207 18:00:13< crimson_penguin> I didn't have a linker error
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20091207 18:03:21< BroodKiller> well, the errors that you mentioned last time were connected with the lack of 64-bit support in Carbon in wxW 2-8-x
20091207 18:03:30< BroodKiller> http://wiki.wxwidgets.org/Development:_wxMac  <-- wasn't that what you were getting?
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20091207 18:12:05< BroodKiller> and I do not want to wxW 2.9 just yet, because it is not present in the Debian/Ubuntu repositories, and I want to avoid asking the user to do more than a standard "Synaptic search"
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20091207 18:20:58< silene> hi
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20091207 18:26:13< BroodKiller> howdie
20091207 18:28:21< fendrin> I just imported some code from frogatto and I get a "/usr/local/src/wesnoth_trunk/src/wml/wml_modify.cpp:63: error: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions". Can it be that wesnoth compile process is more picky about such things as frogattos? How can I fix that error?
20091207 18:29:37< BroodKiller> it's a warning, not an error, IIRC
20091207 18:29:55< BroodKiller> maybe you should check the compiler flags?
20091207 18:30:17< BroodKiller> perhaps something makes it recognize warnings as errors
20091207 18:31:01< BroodKiller> under gcc the "-Werror" flag makes all warnings into errors.       
20091207 18:32:35< fendrin> BroodKiller: Thank you :-)
20091207 18:34:21< BroodKiller> np
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20091207 18:48:14< fendrin> is there something special needed when calling static methods that can be disabled at the compiler?
20091207 18:50:04< Sapient> you could use static_cast<int>( ), not sure if that is your question or not
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20091207 18:52:04< fendrin> Sapient: I have imported some code from frogatto. With the wesnoth compiler settings the code does not compile. 
20091207 18:52:26< fendrin> Sapient: Because of a static function that can't be found like it is addressed.
20091207 18:52:44< fendrin> /usr/local/src/wesnoth_trunk/src/wml/wml_schema.cpp:221: error: no matching function for call to ‘wml::schema::generate_error(formatter&) const’
20091207 18:52:46< fendrin> /usr/local/src/wesnoth_trunk/src/wml/wml_schema.hpp:54: note: candidates are: static void wml::schema::generate_error(const std::string&)
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20091207 18:53:30< fendrin> I guess that causes only a warning when compiled in frogatto.
20091207 18:57:33< silene> i somehow doubt it: this is a real error, not a warning converted to an error due to the wesnoth compiler settings
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20091207 19:17:58< CIA-62> fendrin * r40168 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/wml/ (26 files): Included the wml parser/preprocessor/schema validator from frogatto.
20091207 19:18:55< fendrin> silene: That is strange, I only have problems with static methods. I don't think there are compile errors in the frogatto codebase.
20091207 19:22:05< silene> perhaps you forgot to import some files (which would contain conversion operators)
20091207 19:22:30< silene> i guess not, otherwise you would get a missing file message
20091207 19:22:40< fendrin> silene: That maybe. But shouldn't c++ warn about ...
20091207 19:22:43< fendrin> ... you said it.
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20091207 19:41:29< Sapient> how many definitions of generate_error are in frogatto?
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20091207 19:53:42< fendrin> Sapient: I am a step forward. It seems that there are files that are present in both programms but are slightly different cause the error.
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20091207 19:58:24< mordante> servus
20091207 19:59:09< fendrin> Sapient: solved.
20091207 19:59:55< Sapient> ok, great
20091207 20:00:52< teaser> mordante left you a msg around 17
20091207 20:01:10< fendrin> Sapient: Still no idea where I can find a hook to hang the thing into wesnoth.
20091207 20:01:13< mordante> teaser, ok, thanks still catching up with the rest of the log
20091207 20:06:10< fendrin> it can't fins sys::readfile sys is not a part of frogatto, right?
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20091207 20:08:22< mordante> Ivanovic, do we want to do something with the hosting offered by the C't?
20091207 20:10:08< mordante> teaser, you tested with the addon_manager and that one is broken?
20091207 20:11:56< mordante> teaser, ah I see, just read the forum thread, can you post a real patch?
20091207 20:12:08< teaser> mordante, yes I did, I also changed it, and then it worked (confirmed by doofus on the forums)
20091207 20:12:22< teaser> sure, it's just svn diff, right?
20091207 20:12:35< mordante> yeah just read that part
20091207 20:12:38< mordante> yes
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20091207 20:15:41< Ivanovic> mordante: no
20091207 20:16:06< Ivanovic> mordante: since having everything basically via sf.net is a lot more comftable for us
20091207 20:16:36< CIA-62> ivanovic * r40169 /trunk/ (48 files in 18 dirs): 
20091207 20:16:36< CIA-62> ran utils/wesnoth-optipng
20091207 20:16:36< CIA-62> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20091207 20:16:36< CIA-62> Original size: 2481 KiB on 48 files
20091207 20:16:36< CIA-62> Optimized size: 2349 KiB
20091207 20:16:37< CIA-62> Total saving: 132 KiB = 5% decrease
20091207 20:17:10< teaser> mordante, is it enough to make a diff vs 1.7.9 or should I update my trunk co?
20091207 20:18:26< mordante> teaser,  1.7.9 is good enough, don't expect the file to be modified in between
20091207 20:18:57< mordante> Ivanovic, ok I expected that, are you going to reply to that mail or should I?
20091207 20:19:01< teaser> done: https://gna.org/patch/index.php?1387
20091207 20:19:06< Ivanovic> feel free to reply
20091207 20:19:56< mordante> ok
20091207 20:21:11< mordante> teaser, thanks a pastebin would also have worked ;-) I can't find you in the credits, do you want be in them and if so by which name etc
20091207 20:21:46< teaser> (OT mordante: you seem to do most of the work with gui2, if you prepared some files others could more easily chip in (or maybe I am to unknowing to be of good use atm), my wall when I tried was that I needed to get a disp into menu_events.cpp and that was too much... just an idea)
20091207 20:22:15< teaser> mordante: well, put me in as tsr and nothing more, thanks
20091207 20:22:40< teaser> bbl, reboot :)
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20091207 20:27:57< CIA-62> ivanovic * r40170 /trunk/po/ (5 files in 5 dirs): updated Russian translation
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20091207 20:34:10< CIA-62> mordante * r40171 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
20091207 20:34:10< CIA-62> Set the translate flag with the addon script.
20091207 20:34:10< CIA-62> patch #1387.
20091207 20:34:17< mordante> teaser, ^
20091207 20:35:33< mordante> teaser, what do you mean with "if you prepared some files" documentation or code?
20091207 20:36:46< mordante> also not sure what you want to do with disp, if you have some code to post please pastebin it, makes talking easier
20091207 20:37:52< teaser> mordante: code, I mean if you prepared menu_events.cpp to be able to easily use the new gui2 in one case, others, like could do the gui2 stuff to it without having to mess around with too many files...
20091207 20:38:34< teaser> ...I don't have any code left, I reverted it cause I didn't manage to get any where with it...
20091207 20:38:44< mordante> :-(
20091207 20:39:01< teaser> ...otoh maybe you don't want n00bs like me dabbling in c++ as you'll have to clean it up too much anuway ;)
20091207 20:39:41< mordante> I also was a newbie once ;-)
20091207 20:40:12< mordante> still confused what you mean with prepare menu_events for gui2
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20091207 20:40:19< teaser> hehe, well, maybe I'll try again soon, maybe tonight or in a couple weeks when I'm back from vacation/work
20091207 20:41:51< boucman> mordante: btw, i'm trying to get the iphone porter to contribute back his changes, apparently he had to deal into the input system to have "fat fingers" support we'll see what come out of it
20091207 20:42:01< teaser> well, I mean to be able to use gui2 it appears to me that you need some kind of "video" resource while using gui1 that is taken care of in the called function, so for example in menu_events.cpp you need to make available that resource and that was too hard for me
20091207 20:42:58< teaser> ok, sry to leave it at that, but now it is movie time ;)
20091207 20:43:32< Crab_> teaser: src/resources.hpp ( resources::screen->video() ) ?
20091207 20:45:07< boucman> hey Crab_
20091207 20:45:08< mordante> teaser, or disp_.video()
20091207 20:45:15< Crab_> hi, boucman
20091207 20:45:28< boucman> what's up ?
20091207 20:45:58< mordante> teaser, so the video is out there ;-)
20091207 20:47:43< CIA-62> fendrin * r40172 /branches/fendrin_gui_stuff/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Made the frogatto wml parser compile.
20091207 20:48:32< mordante> boucman, cool did he already reply to your request?
20091207 20:48:54< boucman> yes, he said there was probably little in his changes we would be interested in :)
20091207 20:49:04< boucman> so I told him that was of course absolutely not true
20091207 20:49:09< teaser> mordante, I know, was just saying that for me (being a newbie) it wasn't easy to understand how to get to it, and so maybe it could help to prepare gui-heavy files in the sources for gui2 while still not actually working on new dialogs, etc. Just an idea that would make my life easier, nit neccesarily yours :D
20091207 20:51:12< mordante> teaser, not really sure how I can "prepare" them, but you can grep for gui2 in files (in fact menu_event.cpp has a few usages of it)
20091207 20:51:25< mordante> other then that I think only documentation can help
20091207 20:52:14< mordante> boucman, well I'm indeed interested in what he changed for supporting SDL 1.3
20091207 20:52:29< boucman> ok, i'll mention that
20091207 20:52:38< boucman> worse happen, his sources are public, we can do a diff
20091207 20:52:47< boucman> though i'm not sure on what version he's based
20091207 20:52:47< mordante> and want to look at his OGL part as well
20091207 20:52:54< mordante> IIRC 1.6.3
20091207 20:53:09< boucman> k
20091207 20:53:28< boucman> that's rather old, isn't it ?
20091207 20:53:43< mordante> well it's the stable branch ;-)
20091207 20:53:54< boucman> it's the latest stable ?
20091207 20:54:04< boucman> i thought we had released more 1.6 than that???
20091207 20:54:06< mordante> no, but it might have been when he started
20091207 20:54:25< boucman> oh, ok
20091207 20:55:07< mordante> that's why I also hope we can use (maybe ifdefed) more of his code
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20091207 20:55:33< mordante> since his port outdated once we release 1.8
20091207 20:55:45< boucman> mordante: i'll be sure to put you in the loop/assign patch to you once he submit something
20091207 20:56:30< mordante> yes please
20091207 20:59:06< mordante> fendrin, are you going to work on schemas in Wesnoth?
20091207 20:59:48< Ivanovic> regarding his analysis of our code there is probably lots of stuff we can import in mainline
20091207 20:59:50< fendrin> mordante: right
20091207 20:59:59< Ivanovic> (that is why i linked it this morning in here)
20091207 21:00:36< fendrin> mordante: I am finished with the keyboard cursor support.
20091207 21:00:49< mordante> fendrin, cool and cool :-)
20091207 21:01:25< fendrin> mordante: but there is one thing left: the context menu can only be used by mouse. It needs to be ported to gui2 in order to make keyboard only playing work.
20091207 21:03:26< mordante> fendrin, shouldn't be too hard, there's a reason why I abstracted that part of the code :-)
20091207 21:04:10< fendrin> mordante: I am in that wml schema thing now. So the context menu has to wait.
20091207 21:05:04< mordante> fendrin, you just need to fire a RIGHT_BUTTON_CLICK event... however I'll be working on the hotkeys post 1.8 which will make it even easier
20091207 21:05:36< mordante> fendrin, which code area do plan to add to the validator first?
20091207 21:06:30< fendrin> mordante: only in config.cpp and config_cache. They shall wrap the wml parser. I don't plan to hack in all parts of wesnoth.
20091207 21:06:52< mordante> I more meant WML code sorry
20091207 21:07:30< fendrin> mordante: every piece of it at once. The code will just parse every wml that is there. But I need slaves that write the schemas. That is monkey buisness.
20091207 21:07:55< mordante> I've seen a demonstration of Sirp with the frogatto validator and I really liked it
20091207 21:08:44< mordante> so now we need schema monkeys ;-)
20091207 21:08:54< fendrin> but sirp told my just on #frogatto that the project is hard because of differences in preprocessor and FWL and WML
20091207 21:09:39< mordante> ok
20091207 21:11:52< fendrin> mordante: the consturctor config::config() : values(), children(), ordered_children() does what to the members?
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20091207 21:27:56< mordante> fendrin, I know not more as the documentation in config.hpp, the config class is one of the areas I never looked into
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20091207 21:29:40< fendrin> mordante: I have problems with the syntax, what does this type of constructor with the member variables, if there is no code in the body of the constructor. 
20091207 21:29:42< fendrin> ?
20091207 21:30:51< mordante> ah ok 
20091207 21:31:24< mordante> that line default initializes all members
20091207 21:31:55< fendrin> calling for every member the default constroctor with no arguments?
20091207 21:32:33< mordante> if between braces is a value that value is used the initialize eg my_string("foo") will call the constructor of my_string with "foo"
20091207 21:32:55< mordante> fendrin, yes
20091207 21:33:16< fendrin> got it, thanks
20091207 21:34:11< mordante> np
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