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20091213 00:26:59< Ivanovic> fendrin: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28090&start=0
20091213 00:27:26< Ivanovic> chpln: yes, i seem to have similar problems on my amd64 desktop box though things seem to work fine on my laptop
20091213 00:28:10< Ivanovic> and yes, it might well be the boost update
20091213 00:28:34< Ivanovic> please post a bug report about this listing the version of all depending libs that you use
20091213 00:28:42< Ivanovic> (libsdl, boost, ...)
20091213 00:29:17< Ivanovic> also explicitly mention that, regarding another user, it only happens on x86_64 systems and not on i686 systems
20091213 00:29:31< chpln> Ivanovic: Will do.
20091213 00:30:57< Ivanovic> thanks
20091213 00:31:06< Ivanovic> off to bed now, n8
20091213 00:31:12< chpln> Night.
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20091213 01:15:17< ilor> mordante: I can see a definite improvement with the cache, I guess the next big leap would be to avoid the lag on selecting a game
20091213 01:24:29< shadowmaster> wesbot: seen West
20091213 01:24:30< wesbot> shadowmaster: Sorry, I don't know of West.
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20091213 02:23:42< shadowmaster> hm.
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20091213 05:30:25< Aethaeryn> Any chance that WML can add /* multi-line commenting */ in its 1.9 syntax?
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20091213 10:42:20< Ivanovic> moin
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20091213 10:53:47< Jetrel> Ivanovic: that's probably a sign I should get to bed, but I'm having to much "fun" hacking. :)
20091213 10:54:03< Ivanovic> your choice
20091213 10:54:11< Ivanovic> though it is almost 11am here
20091213 10:54:18< Jetrel> tell that to a heroin addict.
20091213 10:54:21< Jetrel> :P
20091213 10:54:28< Ivanovic> so yeah, probably you should head off to bed
20091213 10:54:31< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 10:59:57< Ivanovic> Jetrel: what are you currently hacking at?
20091213 11:00:08< Jetrel> Frogatto monster behaviour scripting.
20091213 11:00:33< Jetrel> Written in afaik the same functional language that got backported from silvertree to wesnoth.
20091213 11:00:58< Jetrel> they're formulas stored as strings in WML.
20091213 11:02:00< Jetrel> Pretty nice for me to work with, though, because it's really hard to get experience doing pure-functional programming.
20091213 11:02:46< loonycyborg> What's so hard about it? Just hack using Haskell :P
20091213 11:02:54< Ivanovic> brrr
20091213 11:02:58< Jetrel> Most projects tend to use sequential-style programming even if they have a scripting language.
20091213 11:04:03< Jetrel> loonycyborg: oh, it's inspired by Haskell. I just have trouble doing pointless coding projects for pure practice. I'm too aware of how short my life is, and it can almost always be done as part of an actual long term project - if you're lucky to find one.
20091213 11:04:52< Jetrel> I have more things I'm interested in than I can possibly do, so when I do pick things, I tend to do the stuff I know is going to some end-goal.
20091213 11:05:11< Jetrel> since (generally), it's all the same to me, educationally.
20091213 11:05:49< loonycyborg> Life's indeed short if you're trying to be multi-class artist/programmer :P
20091213 11:06:02< Jetrel> ¬_¬ Sole exception would be doing drawing studies. There's a lot I can learn from doing sprites, but there's some stuff that's most economical to learn by doing straight studies.
20091213 11:06:57< Jetrel> loonycyborg: I have also been implanted with a explosive device that will detonate on 2012, so needless to say I'm trying to make the best of the time I've got.
20091213 11:09:10< Jetrel> loonycyborg: but yeah, that does really come back to bite me in the ass, sometimes. Attempting to be a polymath hurts... although it's worth it because the skills really do cross-pollinate.
20091213 11:09:50< loonycyborg> Yes? I wonder how exactly..
20091213 11:09:56< Jetrel> Like, I only understand how to shade when drawing, because I also know calculus, and know how photons behave, and know how 3d renders are programmed to do that exact job.
20091213 11:10:42< Jetrel> Used to be a mystery - artists would randomly make certain stuff dark, and certain stuff light, but it seemed like you just had to guide where you did that by voodoo+intuition.
20091213 11:11:38< Jetrel> Some people can actually get incredibly far on intuition if they're lucky, but for me, I saved about 7 years of trial and error by realizing "hey, holy crap, computers can be programmed to do this, so why don't I just do it like they do?"
20091213 11:11:48< loonycyborg> But how do artist skills help in programming?
20091213 11:12:22< Jetrel> visualizing stuff, designing guis, lots of random little things.
20091213 11:12:41< Jetrel> to be fair, they don't help a ton with writing a shell script. :]
20091213 11:13:19< Jetrel> But for anything where I'm trying to write graphics or animation routines, it really helps.
20091213 11:14:32< Jetrel> loonycyborg: but yeah, there's a really good reason why I haven't yet learned all those spoken languages I want to learn, and why I haven't gotten into music composition like I'd love to. :P
20091213 11:48:04< Ivanovic> okay, off for some hours, afterwards i might release...
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20091213 12:35:53< mordante> servus
20091213 12:37:53< fendrin> hi mordante
20091213 12:38:05< Crab_> hi, mordante
20091213 12:38:13< mordante> chpln, there seems to be a regressing in boost 1.41 with gzip, try to downgrade again
20091213 12:38:14< fendrin> hi Crab_
20091213 12:38:19< mordante> hi fendrin, Crab_
20091213 12:38:23< Crab_> hi, fendrin )
20091213 12:39:35< mordante> chpln, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.boost.devel/197358/match=gzip
20091213 12:41:17< chpln> mordante: Thanks for the info.
20091213 12:41:27< mordante> you're welcome
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20091213 12:48:02< mordante> hi ilor
20091213 12:48:17< ilor> hi mordante
20091213 12:48:20< mordante> ilor, I read that the lobby is faster now, is it also usable?
20091213 12:49:34< ilor> more or less, scrolling is not as good as it could be (if you scroll without selecting a game it'll snap back to the beginning after a while)
20091213 12:51:09< mordante> I assume you still destroy the entire game list an recreate it?
20091213 12:57:11< ilor> mordante: yeah
20091213 12:57:39< fendrin> zookeeper: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28090&start=0
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20091213 13:01:47< mordante> ilor, if the listbox were able to properly remove rows, would it be easy for you to modify the list to be "diffed" ?
20091213 13:02:18< ilor> I think so
20091213 13:02:47< ilor> mordante: is it possible to remove all rows from a list, without destroying the list itself, and would that be faster?
20091213 13:03:11< mordante> you can use tlistbox.clear()
20091213 13:03:24< mordante> but don't think it will be much faster
20091213 13:03:45< mordante> I'll work on properly removing rows, YogiHH also needs that for his load dialog
20091213 13:04:05< mordante> and it will also make it possible for you to really hide rows
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20091213 13:06:52< zookeeper> fendrin, i don't get it...i don't see anything wrong with message="" + _"Exit" + ""
20091213 13:07:32< fendrin> zookeeper: I can't find it as well. Is it in wml or in the processing c++ code?
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20091213 13:07:45< zookeeper> no idea.
20091213 13:08:15< fendrin> zookeeper: Have you tried a debugger?
20091213 13:08:35< zookeeper> no, i haven't tried it at all.
20091213 13:09:12< zookeeper> of course the first thing one could check would be whether the "back" options in the submenus display the same behaviour.
20091213 13:09:19< zookeeper> since their WML is identical
20091213 13:12:07 * zookeeper is afk
20091213 13:12:38 * mordante too
20091213 13:13:03< Crab_> yes, 'back' options are the same
20091213 13:17:21< Crab_> size='big' causes the issue
20091213 13:19:43< Crab_> fendrin: works perfectly. should I commit the fix ?
20091213 13:20:36< fendrin> Crab_: hmm, you destroy a testcase for a maybe bug. The question is: Is big a valid pango size value?
20091213 13:22:05< Ivanovic> re
20091213 13:22:16< fendrin> Crab_: It doesn't seem so. http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/pango-markup-language.html . Please commit the fix.
20091213 13:22:32< Ivanovic> deekay: so have either you or grazywacz already mailed/phoned the hostel?
20091213 13:22:35< Crab_> fendrin: ok
20091213 13:23:14< Ivanovic> Crab_: so do you already know how you will traveling to fosdem?
20091213 13:23:57< Crab_> Ivanovic: no, not yet. I expect to have more info by the end of the coming week.
20091213 13:24:06< Ivanovic> AI0867, boucman, Crab_, deekay, fendrin, grzywacz, mordante, noyga: as you might be aware, i'd like to book the hostel if possible today
20091213 13:24:21< Ivanovic> AI0867, boucman, Crab_, deekay, fendrin, grzywacz, mordante, noyga: how will we split?
20091213 13:25:01< fendrin> Ivanovic: Split?
20091213 13:25:03< Ivanovic> that is: it might make sense to have those staying sunday night book together
20091213 13:25:11< Ivanovic> fendrin: they only allow booking for up to 6 persons
20091213 13:25:17< Ivanovic> "no groups in our hostel" policy
20091213 13:25:26< Ivanovic> and we will *not* form a group in the hostel
20091213 13:25:28< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 13:25:49< fendrin> ?
20091213 13:25:59< fendrin> crazy
20091213 13:26:13< Ivanovic> that is a policy of this hostel and we have to follow it
20091213 13:26:35< Ivanovic> since we are all from different places all over europe we can easily state that we are not a traveling group
20091213 13:27:15< fendrin> And It's not a lie that I haven't seen anyone of you before.
20091213 13:27:52< Ivanovic> :)
20091213 13:28:08< Ivanovic> and chrber has not seen anyone of you before either...
20091213 13:28:09< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 13:28:33< fendrin> I am just wondering why that rule exists in that hotel. Looks like they don't need customers.
20091213 13:28:40< Ivanovic> (okay, chrber knows me and already met Rhonda (who will not be at fosdem), but that's basically it)
20091213 13:29:00< Ivanovic> they don't want to have some school take a whole huge block
20091213 13:29:18< Ivanovic> they basically want some "fun" atmosphere where you meet other people and all the foo
20091213 13:29:50< CIA-12> crab * r40214 /trunk/data/core/macros/ai_controller.cfg: fix issue with invalid pango markup used in ai controller
20091213 13:29:59< Crab_> fendrin: ^. replied on forum, too.
20091213 13:30:03< Ivanovic> mordante: will AI0867 drive with you again, or will he (at least back home) be on his own?
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20091213 13:32:01< fendrin> Crab_: Thank you :-)
20091213 13:32:05< Crab_> np
20091213 13:35:09< Ivanovic> AI0867, fendrin, mordante: shall I book for you three, chrber and me?
20091213 13:35:55< Ivanovic> then boucman, Crab_, deekay, grzywazc and noyga have to organize it among them, maybe splitting things for those arriving late (ryanair!) or the like?
20091213 13:36:03< fendrin> Ivanovic: I am fine with whatever fits in your plans.
20091213 13:41:33< fendrin> Ivanovic: At what time and at which trainstation should I arrive at best?
20091213 13:41:50< Ivanovic> we should meet somewhere in the town center
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20091213 13:42:10< Ivanovic> i am not sure yet when chrber and i will be in town, but we can get the beds in the hostel from 4pm onwards
20091213 13:42:21< Ivanovic> grzywacz: please read the backlog, left *several* messages for you
20091213 13:42:42< Ivanovic> (some regarding plain booking, some regarding "asking about late arrivals" at 2go4)
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20091213 13:43:17< ilor> mordante: oh, I am already using clear() and then addrow, it's probably the invalidate layout that's causing the lag
20091213 13:45:22< ilor> mordante: alas, without an invalidate_layout() in playerlist_update I get a crash
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20091213 14:03:12< mordante> Ivanovic, haven't spoken AI0867 yet, but want to ask him when I see him... we still have some time to arrange that part
20091213 14:04:15< mordante> Ivanovic, yes please book me
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20091213 14:06:11< mordante> fendrin, but last year we still ended up all together ;-) They booked our two groups in the same room
20091213 14:07:11< mordante> ilor, yes I tried to remove the invalidate_layout for the player list and that indeed failed
20091213 14:07:25< mordante> still it might be possible
20091213 14:07:49< ilor> generally I think the layout shouldn't move around at all during list updates
20091213 14:08:10< mordante> I still think destroying all the games and recreating them might slow things down as well so rather have a remove_row and add_row
20091213 14:08:55< fendrin> Ivanovic: town center == central train station ?
20091213 14:09:09< Ivanovic> fendrin: yeah, that is probably the best destination for you
20091213 14:09:17< mordante> agreed, but that can only be avoided when we avoid invalidate layout... which needs better scrollbar container support
20091213 14:09:20< Ivanovic> from there it is something like 15mins walk to the hostel
20091213 14:09:54< mordante> afk
20091213 14:11:23< Ivanovic> mordante: the reason why i ask is that AI0867 listed monday as possible day of departure
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20091213 14:35:55< mordante> Ivanovic, I saw that as well, but I want to depart Sunday evening
20091213 14:52:18< zookeeper> fendrin, crab, kinda odd IMO that an unrecognized size='big' causes all the markup to show up, instead of unrecognized attributes or their values just being ignored...
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20091213 14:56:11< CIA-12> mordante * r40215 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
20091213 14:56:11< CIA-12> Add a extra generic button class.
20091213 14:56:11< CIA-12> This base class is used by tbutton and will also be used by a repeating button
20091213 14:56:11< CIA-12> variant. (That button will be added once finished.)
20091213 14:56:37< CIA-12> mordante * r40216 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: Add a warning about boost 1.41.
20091213 14:58:04< shadowmaster> ... I will keep that in mind in case it makes it to Squeeze.
20091213 14:58:35< mordante> it was mainly a warning for the packagers ;-)
20091213 14:59:03< shadowmaster> yeah, but I also build and run wesnoth myself.
20091213 14:59:52< mordante> yeah so you're also a packager ;-)
20091213 15:00:17< fendrin> zookeeper: But it's nice that it does so. I hate that the wesnoth engine is very unverbose about many kinds of wml errors.
20091213 15:01:01< shadowmaster> sometimes wesnoth just can't tell there's smething wrong.
20091213 15:01:49< shadowmaster> which reminds me, even ifa validation scheme is implemented, we have [set_variables] and [insert_tag] which could be used to to insert events with semantically invalid WML
20091213 15:03:20< shadowmaster> I can't see any reasonable way to see in advance what the container modified with [set_variables] will be used for using only the effective WML as referece.
20091213 15:05:15< shadowmaster> so I suppose you'd have to leave *.set_variables.literal.* and *.set_variables.value.* as special cases that cannot be validated at all.
20091213 15:06:14< fendrin> shadowmaster: Maybe they can be checked in the moment of execution.
20091213 15:06:45< fendrin> shadowmaster: At some time they are valid config objects that can be checked.
20091213 15:06:48< shadowmaster> does your evil plot involve run-time or parse-time validation?
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20091213 15:08:42< shadowmaster> boo, Firefox exploded.
20091213 15:08:42< fendrin> shadowmaster: both
20091213 15:09:22< fendrin> config nodes can be checked at there creation time. whenever that happens.
20091213 15:09:38< fendrin> s/there/their
20091213 15:20:03< Ivanovic> mordante: will rebuild on my laptop now to check speed
20091213 15:21:29< mordante> thanks
20091213 15:25:30< Ivanovic> (and i will check if downgrading boost to 1.39.0 helps on my desktop system!)
20091213 15:26:44< Ivanovic> if everything is "usable" in my (really short) test i will work on releasing 1.7.10
20091213 15:26:56-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: about to release 1.7.10 | string/feature freeze active! | 71 bugs, 246 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20091213 15:27:21< mordante> 1.40 should also work
20091213 15:27:26< stikonas> will 1.7.10 be beta3?
20091213 15:27:30< mordante> yes
20091213 15:27:54< shadowmaster> 1.40 works for connecting to the SVN server and watching the lobby at least.
20091213 15:28:05< Ivanovic> AI0867, deekay, fendrin, grzywacz, ilor, Jetrel, loonycyborg, mordante, shadowmaster, silene, Soliton, thespaceinvader, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: will probably release 1.7.10 in something like 30mins
20091213 15:28:10< Ivanovic> so commit anything you got left!
20091213 15:28:12< shadowmaster> 1.14.0, that is.
20091213 15:28:21< shadowmaster> it also works for single-player and map editing AFAICT
20091213 15:28:30< shadowmaster> er, 1.40.0 I mean dangit
20091213 15:28:33< Ivanovic> mordante: there is no boost 1.40.0 in gentoo
20091213 15:28:49< Ivanovic> there is just 1.39.0 and 1.41.0 (plus some even older versions)
20091213 15:29:00 * mordante wonders why both gentoo and arch don't carry 1.40...
20091213 15:29:12< Ivanovic> maybe some but in 1.40.0?
20091213 15:29:13< shadowmaster> they are too cool to use 1.40.0
20091213 15:29:15< shadowmaster> ;)
20091213 15:29:16< Ivanovic> s/but/bug
20091213 15:29:35< mordante> that didn't stop them from adding 1.41 :-P
20091213 15:29:55< Ivanovic> just a different one
20091213 15:29:56< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 15:30:22< mordante> Ivanovic, I'm working on getting the buttons in that keep scrolling in, but I don't care whether that will be in 1.7.10 or 1.7.11
20091213 15:30:33< mordante> so release when you want
20091213 15:31:01< Ivanovic> the way it eg works in konversation (which is rather nice): it acts as single click for the first ~500ms after button down
20091213 15:31:18< Ivanovic> afterwards it switches to "scroll without stop until button-up arrives"
20091213 15:31:54< mordante> I settled for down and an event every 300ms, but need to see how viable that is
20091213 15:32:24< mordante> but first need to convert the infrastructure that that kind of button is allowed in a listbox
20091213 15:33:02< Ivanovic> in the lobby load is still rather high on my desktop box
20091213 15:33:20< Ivanovic> ilor: that the list jumps back to the top all the time when scrolling down and looking for a game really does suck
20091213 15:33:43< ilor> Ivanovic: it's less annoying when you select a game, but yeah
20091213 15:33:49< mordante> yeah I want to allow adding and removing listbox rows without invalidating the entire layout
20091213 15:33:53< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: I've got a couple of attack icons to go in, actually
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20091213 15:34:10< thespaceinvader> just updating my checkout
20091213 15:34:18< Ivanovic> one of my desktop cpu cores at some 2ghz uses something between 10 and 20% load *while idle* in the lobby
20091213 15:34:24< Ivanovic> IMO too much
20091213 15:34:25< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 15:34:33< ilor> mordante: can I get/set the exact scrollbar position?
20091213 15:34:48< ilor> Ivanovic: it's better than what it was before the caching though
20091213 15:35:50< Ivanovic> ilor: might be
20091213 15:36:07< mordante> ilor, I don't think so... however I prefer to see whether we need it once we switch to diffing the game list
20091213 15:36:15< Ivanovic> in general the lobby feels unresponsive
20091213 15:36:24< ilor> Ivanovic: I agree
20091213 15:36:35< Ivanovic> it takes a while till the click on a game has some result
20091213 15:36:44< Ivanovic> even on my "reasonable fast" desktop system
20091213 15:36:56< ilor> there are delays, even if there are two games and few players you can't quickly up-down on the game list
20091213 15:37:02< Ivanovic> ilor: and i still have ~500 messages about "missing map"
20091213 15:37:08< Ivanovic> none of those in 1.6.x
20091213 15:37:10< Ivanovic> ;)
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20091213 15:37:30< ilor> Ivanovic: none at all in 1.6?
20091213 15:37:41< Ivanovic> exactly
20091213 15:37:49< mordante> and how is the speed if you scroll with the scrollbar gripper?
20091213 15:37:53< Ivanovic> in 1.6.x i get no error messages about missing maps
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20091213 15:38:01< Ivanovic> mordante: this test was on my desktop so far
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20091213 15:38:28< Ivanovic> and the main problem with scrolling *at all* is that the bar jumps back to "currently selected game" whenever a refresh occurs (ever ~3s)
20091213 15:38:30< mordante> I read that, but still want to know whether the gripper is faster now
20091213 15:38:47< Ivanovic> will be able to tell you in some mins on my tablet
20091213 15:38:49< mordante> refresh is every 2 seconds by default
20091213 15:38:55< Ivanovic> i was not able to test yesterday
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20091213 15:39:08< Ivanovic> simply because boost would not allow me connecting to the mp server
20091213 15:39:09< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 15:39:32< shadowmaster> oh crap.
20091213 15:39:41< shadowmaster> This is when I should have Wesnoth 1.0 and UtBS
20091213 15:39:55< shadowmaster> (anyone has it?)
20091213 15:39:56< Ivanovic> ???
20091213 15:40:14< Ivanovic> IIRC utbs was not included in 1.0
20091213 15:40:18< shadowmaster> I think I said Wesnoth 1.0 and UtBS, not much to elaborate
20091213 15:40:35< shadowmaster> unless you forgot that it also existed and was a UMC back then.
20091213 15:40:41< mordante> wescamp?
20091213 15:40:52< shadowmaster> okay, right, but what about wesnoth 1.0
20091213 15:40:56< shadowmaster> ohhh, git-svn ;)
20091213 15:41:39< ilor> mordante: perhaps we could postpone refreshing the gamelist while the user is dragging the scrollbar gripper?
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20091213 15:42:00< CIA-12> thespaceinvader * r40217 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Add Drake Ram attack icon, update changelogs.
20091213 15:42:11< Ivanovic> mordante: yes, due to caching the lobby is *a lot* more responsive when scrolling the game list
20091213 15:42:26< mordante> good :-)
20091213 15:42:45< Ivanovic> ilor: updating right after the user stops is even worse!
20091213 15:43:08< Ivanovic> ilor: since you just see a game, release the mouse button from the slider and *boom* back at the selected game!
20091213 15:43:25< ilor> Ivanovic: yeah, maybe the usual delay after releasing
20091213 15:43:35< Ivanovic> first step i'd say "only update the list every 10s"
20091213 15:44:09< Ivanovic> your version is good if it is a "assume a 'just updated' and wait 10 more seconds so the user has a chance to select the game
20091213 15:44:14< mordante> Ivanovic, ilor let's first try to get the list updated without the clear refill action and see whether that solves the jumping problem
20091213 15:44:22< Ivanovic> yes, IMO updating the list every 2s is excessive
20091213 15:44:32< shadowmaster> haha, I love git-svn ;)
20091213 15:45:08< mordante> Ivanovic, that has been the setting for quite a while...
20091213 15:45:25< Ivanovic> 2s or 10s?
20091213 15:45:32< mordante> 2s
20091213 15:45:48< Ivanovic> that does not mean that this many updates to the game view are really required
20091213 15:45:50< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 15:45:57< ilor> mordante: so we'd get listbox::remove_row(idx), listbox::add_row_at(row, idx), and some way of modyfying a row (or is that in already?)
20091213 15:46:27< mordante> reducing that could "fix" the problem but I prefer to try to optimize it and use that as a last option
20091213 15:46:43< shadowmaster> let's see if 1.0 compiles for me now.
20091213 15:46:45< mordante> ilor, yes
20091213 15:46:51< CIA-12> thespaceinvader * r40218 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add attack icon for ItBS's Giant Ant, update changelogs.
20091213 15:47:10< mordante> at least something that allows that functionality
20091213 15:47:14< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: your gcc might start to bark at some places (unless you use some rather old compiler...)
20091213 15:47:14< ilor> Ivanovic: I get a lot of "error filesystem: Could not open 'D:/wesnoth1.6/userdata/editor/maps/'" in 1.6
20091213 15:47:25< shadowmaster> I still have gcc 3.2 installed
20091213 15:47:35< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: that is probably *too* old...
20091213 15:47:36< mordante> Ivanovic, 5f3c553f (sapient 2007-06-17 17:14:00 +0000 43) unsigned lobby_refresh = 2000;
20091213 15:47:37< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 15:47:57< Ivanovic> mordante: does not mean that this many refreshs are really required!
20091213 15:47:59< shadowmaster> 3.4, that is.
20091213 15:48:16< Ivanovic> gcc 3.4 should work nicely for 1.0
20091213 15:48:27< Ivanovic> ilor: strange windows thingie!
20091213 15:48:32< Ivanovic> rather common IIRC
20091213 15:48:37< Ivanovic> nothing like this on linux
20091213 15:48:38< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 15:48:50< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: that's my list cleared. CIA seems to be on strike, though
20091213 15:48:54< mordante> Ivanovic, true but still increasing that value is the easy way to hide the problem ;-)
20091213 15:49:10< Ivanovic> mordante: in general i think that the problem should be solved
20091213 15:49:12< ilor> mordante: an enterprise-level bugfix :P
20091213 15:49:26< Ivanovic> the other change is to make wesnoth more "mobile friendly"
20091213 15:49:35< mordante> Ivanovic, agreed
20091213 15:49:37< Ivanovic> less updates mean that the cpu can sleep longer
20091213 15:49:53< mordante> ilor, yeah :-(
20091213 15:49:55< shadowmaster> thespaceinvader: what's wrong with CIA?
20091213 15:49:56< Ivanovic> and if eg 10s are enough, why not stay with such a rather low value?
20091213 15:50:06< Ivanovic> thespaceinvader: CIA reported two commits of yours
20091213 15:50:11< thespaceinvader> shadowmaster: it seemed to be my connection rather than CIA
20091213 15:50:21< thespaceinvader> Ivanovic: yep, those are the ones
20091213 15:50:32< Ivanovic> okay, preparing for 1.7.10 now
20091213 15:50:38< shadowmaster> :(
20091213 15:50:48< mordante> I agree it might be good thing to make a "hidden" setting, but still want to have it nicely working with 2s
20091213 15:51:06< mordante> IMO gui2 should be an improvement over gui1
20091213 15:51:15< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: how much time?
20091213 15:51:19< Ivanovic> mordante: it is an improvement if it helps saving energy
20091213 15:51:22< ilor> mordante: the 2secs are server-side, right?
20091213 15:51:31< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: what are you up to?
20091213 15:51:35< Ivanovic> as in: what should i wait for?
20091213 15:51:47< shadowmaster> I'm trying to find antecendents for fixing https://gna.org/bugs/?14925 properly
20091213 15:51:50< shadowmaster> (UtBS)
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20091213 15:52:23< shadowmaster> ohhh, I forgot how much I loved the loading screen when it was first implemented.
20091213 15:52:34< mordante> ilor, no client side
20091213 15:53:09< ilor> mordante: where is it?
20091213 15:53:25< mordante> game_config.cpp
20091213 15:53:31< shadowmaster> mordante: there's no 1.0 branch on wescamp :(
20091213 15:53:49< Ivanovic> i don't know if there *was* wescamp when we released 1.0
20091213 15:53:57< mordante> might be trunk was used at that time or even the root
20091213 15:54:02< shadowmaster> okay, I suppose I'll have to dig through one of my backups to find UtBS then
20091213 15:54:10< ilor> mordante: is it used anywhere
20091213 15:54:39< shadowmaster> unless anyone knows a secret location in w.o holding 1.0 addons
20091213 15:55:52< mordante> ilor, gui/dialogs/lobby_main.cpp for gui2 and multiplayer_ui.cpp for gui1
20091213 15:56:41< ilor> mordante: agh, broken search didn't find that
20091213 15:57:58< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: you are lucky!
20091213 15:58:10< Ivanovic> i got a backup of the 1.0 addon server from "ages ago" lying on my home HD
20091213 15:58:12< mordante> vim did ;-)
20091213 15:59:09< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: okay, any chance I can have a tarball of UtBS?
20091213 15:59:15< ilor> mordante: am I correct in understanding that the 2secs delay now applies to all network processing, not just gamelist updates?
20091213 15:59:44< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: do you know how to "extract" an addon from the 1.0 addon server without having it running?
20091213 15:59:53< Ivanovic> that is: i just got the "complete file" thing, everything in one
20091213 16:00:04< shadowmaster> hm.
20091213 16:01:00< shadowmaster> I guess I could try forcing it into a locally-running 1.0 add-ons server
20091213 16:01:09< mordante> ilor, not sure but I used it for the gamelist
20091213 16:01:11< CIA-12> ivanovic * r40219 /trunk/po/ (123 files in 23 dirs):
20091213 16:01:11< CIA-12> pot-update (no new/changed strings)
20091213 16:01:11< CIA-12> regenerated doc files (no changes)
20091213 16:01:23< shadowmaster> oohh, except that it doesn't compile
20091213 16:02:00< ilor> mordante: lobby's network_handler is called from the timer, and it does all network processing
20091213 16:02:37< mordante> Ivanovic, do you want me to wait a little with committing or will it take a while before you tag?
20091213 16:02:40 * shadowmaster is currently wondering how did campaign removal ever work in 1.0
20091213 16:03:19< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: i did it by hand
20091213 16:03:34< Ivanovic> shutting down the server for a moment, removing the lines in the server.cfg and deleting the campaign file
20091213 16:03:36< shadowmaster> I'm seeing code that... if it ever compiled, looks unsafe
20091213 16:04:53< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: i can send you the stuff so that you can start your own addon server
20091213 16:05:04< Ivanovic> will do so via mail, it will just include utbs
20091213 16:05:35< shadowmaster> ha-ha.
20091213 16:06:13< Ivanovic> sending it to your gmail account is fine?
20091213 16:06:28< Ivanovic> or do you prefer me uploading things into your account at wesnoth.org?
20091213 16:06:32< Ivanovic> it just has 2.5MB
20091213 16:06:53< shadowmaster> at w.o would be better.
20091213 16:07:03< shadowmaster> that way I can resume the download if it breaks..
20091213 16:09:00< Ivanovic> done
20091213 16:09:06< Ivanovic> file name is wesnoth-1.0-addon-server.tar.bz2 in your home
20091213 16:09:13< Ivanovic> made you complete owner of the file
20091213 16:09:31< Ivanovic> mordante: how much time do you need?
20091213 16:09:39< Ivanovic> that is: what do you have to commit ready?
20091213 16:10:47< mordante> I have it ready, but the code doesn't do much so I can commit before or after the release
20091213 16:11:03< Ivanovic> what is it supposed to do?
20091213 16:11:05< mordante> the real button code is half done and won't make it in 1.7.10
20091213 16:11:18< mordante> some helper code to allow the new button to work
20091213 16:11:27< Ivanovic> if it has no real function, better wait
20091213 16:11:32< mordante> ok
20091213 16:11:43< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: see it this way: it will likely take a while till you get the info extracted from utbs1.0
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20091213 16:11:53< Ivanovic> will release now and you can do the extraction stuff later on
20091213 16:13:30-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.7.10-1.8beta3 | string/feature freeze active! | 71 bugs, 246 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20091213 16:14:09< shadowmaster> oops.
20091213 16:14:38< shadowmaster> it wasn't a good idea to make ~/.wesnoth point to ~/.wesnoth-1.7 here :/
20091213 16:16:16< CIA-12> ivanovic * r40220 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): bump version to 1.7.10-1.8beta3
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20091213 16:18:31< shadowmaster> ah, brings back memories.
20091213 16:18:54< shadowmaster> it also compiled much faster.
20091213 16:19:21< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: you have 5 minutes? :P
20091213 16:19:31< Ivanovic> get it done!
20091213 16:19:42< Ivanovic> but don't forget the changelog and keep things clean and sorted!
20091213 16:19:48< Ivanovic> (just ran sort on some blocks...)
20091213 16:21:08< Ivanovic> we have the reduce the number of campaigns we ship!
20091213 16:21:24< Ivanovic> since i try to start each campaign before shipping the release it takes *ages* by now..
20091213 16:21:34< Ivanovic> can't we go back to some three or four campaigns?
20091213 16:21:55< shadowmaster> 1 minute
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20091213 16:22:38< mordante> nah that gives us more time to do our last minute commit ;-)
20091213 16:23:45< Ivanovic> mordante: normally i do those checks with the release binary
20091213 16:23:48< Ivanovic> so with the package done
20091213 16:24:01< Ivanovic> it just increases the time between "last commit" and "upload completed!"
20091213 16:24:49< mordante> too bad ;-)
20091213 16:25:18< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: now
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20091213 16:26:05< shadowmaster> CIA-12 seems to have missed it.
20091213 16:27:43-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.7.10-1.8beta3, using r40221 | string/feature freeze active! | 71 bugs, 246 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20091213 16:28:23< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Since CIA seems to be lazy again ping me when you tag :P
20091213 16:28:48< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: currently starting creation of the tarball
20091213 16:28:53< Ivanovic> so it will be "some more time"
20091213 16:31:37< CIA-12> shadowmaster * r40221 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
20091213 16:31:37< CIA-12> Fixed UtBS-for-Wesnoth-1.0 locations of items in "In the domain of the
20091213 16:31:37< CIA-12> dwarves" (bug #14925)
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20091213 16:34:22< shadowmaster> loonycyborg: just laggy.
20091213 16:49:12< shadowmaster> that is, cia.vc got the notification immediately; the IRC bots took 5 additional minutes to report.
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20091213 17:07:30< CIA-12> ivanovic * r40222 /tags/1.7.10/: tagged 1.7.10-1.8beta3 (using r40221)
20091213 17:08:17< mordante> Ivanovic, can you also do the post bump, before I get a conflict in the changelog/
20091213 17:08:19< mordante> ?*
20091213 17:08:24< Ivanovic> jupp, will do so
20091213 17:08:41< mordante> thanks
20091213 17:10:31< CIA-12> ivanovic * r40223 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): post release version bump to 1.7.10+svn
20091213 17:11:28-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.7.10-1.8beta3, announcing "soon" | string/feature freeze active! | 71 bugs, 246 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20091213 17:16:49< CIA-12> mordante * r40224 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
20091213 17:16:49< CIA-12> Scrollbar containers use the button super class.
20091213 17:16:49< CIA-12> This is the next step in adding the repeating button.
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20091213 17:17:08< shadowmaster> reppeating button?
20091213 17:17:18< shadowmaster> (typo mine)
20091213 17:17:37< mordante> yes a button that keeps firing events when pressed down
20091213 17:17:49< mordante> if you have a better name, now is the time ;-)
20091213 17:18:08< shadowmaster> um, no, I'm not good at names.
20091213 17:18:14< mordante> the button will be used in scrollbars so you can keep them pressed and the bar keeps scrolling
20091213 17:26:16< shadowmaster> that sounds like something that belongs to the scrollbar widget itself IMHO
20091213 17:26:30< shadowmaster> though I suppose the basics can be inherited/reused for spin buttons
20091213 17:27:17< shadowmaster> brr.
20091213 17:27:18< mordante> it should not, the scrollbar widget is a container build from several widgets
20091213 17:27:34< shadowmaster> I compiled wesnoth 1.0 with 4 build subprocesses in less than 1 minute
20091213 17:27:41< mordante> some people might want to have a gui where normal buttons are used instead
20091213 17:27:55< shadowmaster> trunk takes around 30 minutes with the same amount of subprocesses.
20091213 17:28:09< shadowmaster> it's been a long way indeed.
20091213 17:28:17< mordante> would be fun if you can make a graph to see when it really started to go downhill regarding the time
20091213 17:28:44< mordante> my guess is some of our lovely templates
20091213 17:29:27< shadowmaster> the usage of boost also helps
20091213 17:30:23< mordante> yes their lovely templates
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20091213 17:41:46< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: 1.7.10 is out
20091213 17:41:55< crimson_penguin> my goodness
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20091213 17:49:28< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: http://www.happyspork.com/pics/frogatto_iphone1.png :D
20091213 17:49:36 * crimson_penguin disappears
20091213 17:50:28< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: you already showed me some pic like this
20091213 17:50:31< Ivanovic> yeah, earlier version
20091213 17:50:51< Ivanovic> though: if you already use the greek letter "beta", why not use "alpha" instead of a small a?
20091213 17:50:54< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 17:52:05< loonycyborg> These letters are from frogatto's gui or from iphone's?
20091213 17:52:41< shadowmaster> looks like the latter
20091213 17:53:03< shadowmaster> s/latter/former/
20091213 17:53:44< Zarel> Man, you guys are horrible at spam prevention.
20091213 17:53:44< Zarel> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392936#p392936
20091213 17:53:52< Zarel> ...this was from a month ago.
20091213 17:54:34< shadowmaster> Zarel: and you think you can do it better? Barely anyone watches the Miscellaneous section
20091213 17:54:51< Zarel> Hey, I use the term "horrible" affectionately. ;)
20091213 17:55:27< Zarel> I'm trying to think of what word I'd use if I were serious, but I can't remember a situation where I'd seriously insult someone.
20091213 17:55:40< mordante> but at least one of our admins has an excuse to swing the hammer of banishment again ;-)
20091213 17:55:45< Zarel> Probably something like "bigot"
20091213 17:56:01< shadowmaster> mordante: yes, it's in my stomach now
20091213 17:56:09< shadowmaster> the spambot, not the banhammer.
20091213 17:57:10< mordante> with a spambot in your stomach you never have to eat again, you now can digest spam until the end of time
20091213 17:57:44< Zarel> Man, spam is probably one of those things that just makes you more hungry.
20091213 17:57:47< Zarel> Like alcohol.
20091213 17:58:24< mordante> no spam doesn't make hungry it tastes rather nice (at least the variant they sell over here)
20091213 17:59:09< mordante> baked spam is even better
20091213 18:03:00< mordante> Ivanovic, ilor 83 games with a -O0 build is too slow for my system... so we still have some work to do
20091213 18:03:19 * shadowmaster takes his pet bot to walk on Off-Topic.
20091213 18:04:02 * shadowmaster bites phpBB.
20091213 18:04:35< Ivanovic> mordante: jupp
20091213 18:05:10< mordante> now I can't test the repeating button there... /me rebuilds
20091213 18:05:47< Ivanovic> mordante: don't you have enough space on your new hd for several builds parallel?
20091213 18:06:08< Ivanovic> one with debug, one without, using the same data folder and either not installing or using a -debug postfix?
20091213 18:06:27< Ivanovic> yes, i like out of tree builds!
20091213 18:06:28< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 18:06:44< mordante> I have, but never bothered with an optimized build since my system is usually fast enough ;-)
20091213 18:07:09< mordante> I had one yesterday but threw it way
20091213 18:07:12< mordante> away*
20091213 18:07:13< Ivanovic> appearantly not for the lobby
20091213 18:07:14< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 18:08:21< mordante> indeed :-(
20091213 18:08:41< mordante> but the repeating button scrolls too fast also in the lobby
20091213 18:15:47< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: well, the way I get these controls, is I'm like "hey neorice, we're gonna need some controls", and then he's like "oh, here, have some controls"
20091213 18:17:20< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: what's the revision?
20091213 18:17:37< crimson_penguin> for 1.7.10
20091213 18:21:16-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.7.10-1.8beta3, announcing "soon" | string/feature freeze active! | 69 bugs, 246 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20091213 18:21:20< crimson_penguin> nevermind, I was on a tag anyway, so I'll just switch to another tag
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20091213 18:33:38< CIA-12> caslav_ilic * r40225 /branches/resources/image-localization/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Updated source localized images for Serbian.
20091213 18:35:58< CIA-12> shadowmaster * r40226 /trunk/misc/fortunes/wesnoth: Filler cookies
20091213 18:36:27< Ivanovic> esr: feel free to close bug reports and patches that are fixed
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20091213 18:36:34< CIA-12> caslav_ilic * r40227 /trunk/ (19 files in 11 dirs): Updated localized images for Serbian.
20091213 18:37:34< shadowmaster> Crab_: there are [rev] and [bug] bbcodes since last night, btw
20091213 18:38:01< shadowmaster> [rev] links to the commit log for a mainline revision, and guess what the latter does
20091213 18:39:54< Crab_> shadowmaster: thanks. tried it just now, works. had to write r[rev]40214[/rev] , thought, to make it look good. maybe change the link title from FOO to rFOO ?
20091213 18:41:53< shadowmaster> done, and automatically prefixed bug numbers with # as well
20091213 18:46:13< CIA-12> mordante * r40228 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Allow a gui2 timer delete itself in its callback.
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20091213 18:51:27< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: The windows release is uploaded.
20091213 18:51:37< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: cool!
20091213 18:55:15< Crab_> shadowmaster: thanks
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20091213 19:09:52< CIA-12> mordante * r40229 /trunk/ (14 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20091213 19:09:52< CIA-12> Add a new repeating button widget.
20091213 19:09:52< CIA-12> A repeating button is button when pressed down will execute an action, if the
20091213 19:09:52< CIA-12> user keeps it pressed down for a longer time it will repeat this action until
20091213 19:09:52< CIA-12> released.
20091213 19:09:55< CIA-12> The main place where the widget was missed is the MP lobby, I haven't tested it
20091213 19:09:57< CIA-12> there much since the lobby is still to slow. This means once the lobby is fast
20091213 19:13:36< CIA-12> mordante * r40230 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Use repeating buttons in the scrollbars.
20091213 19:13:48< mordante> Ivanovic, ^
20091213 19:14:57< Ivanovic> cool!
20091213 19:16:30< mordante> still doesn't work too great in the lobby due to resetting to the beginning of the list
20091213 19:17:36< mordante> but I'll now start to make it possible to better control listbox rows without forcing the entire layout to be updated
20091213 19:23:10< mordante> btw I'm aware that clicking on the groove of the scrollbar doesn't repeat as well, but I consider that a lower priority
20091213 19:25:36< shadowmaster> and that home/end don't switch selection, only change view area
20091213 19:27:09< mordante> on my todo list ;-)
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20091213 20:03:20< mordante> Ivanovic, you'll book tonight or did you already do?
20091213 20:04:19< CIA-12> caslav_ilic * r40231 /trunk/ (8 files in 7 dirs): Updated localized images for Serbian.
20091213 20:04:25< CIA-12> caslav_ilic * r40232 /branches/resources/image-localization/ (sr/wesnoth.xcf sr@latin/wesnoth.xcf): Updated source localized images for Serbian.
20091213 20:14:56< Crab_> mordante: got a weird problem with a gui2 scrollable listboxes. r40040.
20091213 20:15:18< Crab_> mordante: how-to-reproduce: launch a tutorial in debug mode, activate gamestate inspector, click on 'team 1'
20091213 20:16:32< Crab_> effect: the second list is not displayed correctly. problem goes away if I click on team2 and then back on team 1, but reproduced if I try to go to 'team1' directly from variables
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20091213 21:48:55< mordante> Crab_, is that commit the blame or did you find it running that commit
20091213 21:49:23< Jetrel> gtg, busy
20091213 21:49:48< Crab_> mordante: found it running that commit. seems that the problem went away in 40214
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20091213 21:50:36< Crab_> mordante: so, sorry for disturbing :)
20091213 21:50:41< mordante> good to know I fixed that bug ;-)
20091213 21:50:44< mordante> no problem
20091213 21:51:09< CIA-12> crab * r40233 /trunk/src/multiplayer_connect.cpp:
20091213 21:51:09< CIA-12> fix bug with handling of old-style AI parameters in MP scenarios - they had no
20091213 21:51:09< CIA-12> effect, because they were overridden with the default ai. Fix by disabling that
20091213 21:51:09< CIA-12> override for sides with allow_player=no , because they had no dropdown box to
20091213 21:51:10< CIA-12> choose the AI type/override anyway. Reused existing string.
20091213 21:51:27< Crab_> Ivanovic: ^ I've tried to re-use the existing string (from the same file) there.
20091213 21:51:44< mordante> 40214 is yours so you fixed it ;-)
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20091213 21:55:47< Crab_> mordante: no, that is a coincidence (as the version I run has a higher-than random chance to be 'just after my commit')
20091213 21:56:02< Crab_> s/higher-than random/ higher-than-random
20091213 21:56:34< mordante> ah ok, well as long as it's fixed it's fixed
20091213 21:56:55< Crab_> so, you fixed it somewhen in between :)
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20091213 21:57:27< mordante> probably haven't reproduced the problem and not really curious about what it was
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20091213 22:03:14< esr> 27 bugs, 2 FRs, and 5 patches closed.
20091213 22:05:13< mordante> nice
20091213 22:05:45< shadowmaster> notable in that I managed to fix a minor bug 2 minutes before releasing, in 5 minutes ;)
20091213 22:05:49 * shadowmaster hides
20091213 22:06:37< Crab_> shadowmaster: and I have just managed to fix a major bug, but, as always, *after* a release :))
20091213 22:06:40< mordante> I hope we can get the count down again...
20091213 22:06:56< mordante> I just did a FR after the release ;-)
20091213 22:07:13< shadowmaster> but, you know, for the future, please double check stuff when splitting or resizing maps ;)
20091213 22:07:38< shadowmaster> it's very odd that this bug had been here since around 1.1.2, unnoticed
20091213 22:08:12< mordante> a well hidden bug then
20091213 22:09:09< shadowmaster> that's when I kind of lose faith in players ;)
20091213 22:10:02 * mordante nods
20091213 22:13:47< Ivanovic> Crab_: same file is no problem
20091213 22:13:57< Ivanovic> Crab_: as long as it is "same textdomain" there is no problem either
20091213 22:14:28< Ivanovic> (you are on the safe side when just looking into po/wesnoth/wesnoth.pot and po/wesnoth-lib/wesnoth-lib.pot
20091213 22:14:36< Crab_> (yes, I looked there)
20091213 22:14:42< Ivanovic> if the string is in there already, things should be fine
20091213 22:14:58< Crab_> Ivanovic: ok. it's bad that I spotted such a problem just after the release (not the 1st time this happens, through)
20091213 22:15:22< Ivanovic> doesn't matter
20091213 22:15:27< Ivanovic> there are later releases, too
20091213 22:15:28< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 22:16:04< Crab_> yes. ( impact (since 1.7.6, something like that): ai parameters in MP maps have no effect. )
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20091213 22:18:25< mordante> Ivanovic, did you book?
20091213 22:18:29< Ivanovic> no
20091213 22:18:33< Ivanovic> i was still waiting for AI0867
20091213 22:18:45< BroodKiller> crimson_penguin: poke
20091213 22:18:46< mordante> ah ok
20091213 22:20:24< BroodKiller> good news, I got the animation editor to compile fine under MacOS 10.5.8 :)
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20091213 22:22:01< mordante> I'm off night
20091213 22:22:09< ilor> night mordante
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20091213 22:23:24< BroodKiller> nighto
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20091213 23:01:31< Zarel> developer.wz2100.net: Ticket #1188 (can't reopen ticket #1125) created
20091213 23:01:38< Zarel> ^ has to be the most hilarious bug report we've ever gotten
20091213 23:02:21< AI0867> Ivanovic: I'll be fri-sun
20091213 23:04:19< crimson_penguin> BroodKiller: oh really? nice
20091213 23:07:23< BroodKiller> crimson_penguin: yup, the only thing that puzzles me is why is the application run through the terminal instead of directly?
20091213 23:08:17< Ivanovic> AI0867: okay
20091213 23:08:49< Ivanovic> boucman: i will most likely try to book for AI0867, chrber, fendrin, mordante and me tomorrow
20091213 23:08:56< Ivanovic> boucman: will you coordinate with the others?
20091213 23:08:56< boucman> ok
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20091213 23:09:14< boucman> ok, who are they ?
20091213 23:09:25< Ivanovic> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Fosdem2010
20091213 23:09:27< Ivanovic> everyone listed
20091213 23:09:29< Ivanovic> ;)
20091213 23:10:13< boucman> ok, will do...
20091213 23:13:13< boucman> that leaves grzywacz deekay and noyga
20091213 23:13:25< Crab_> boucman: and me :)
20091213 23:13:39< boucman> Crab_: oops, of course
20091213 23:13:45< Crab_> :-P
20091213 23:15:04< boucman> Ivanovic: i'll try to do it tomorow evening (only evening I have left until after christmas) are they all ready to book or should I contact them ?
20091213 23:15:32< Ivanovic> boucman: please contact them
20091213 23:15:39< boucman> k
20091213 23:15:56< boucman> Crab_: so, are you ready for me to book, thus freezing your dates ? :D
20091213 23:16:15< BroodKiller> crimson_penguin: will a program compiled under 10.5.8 work fine under 10.6?
20091213 23:16:33< Ivanovic> boucman: it might be that grzywacz and deekay want to book seperately because of the late arrival time and staying till monday
20091213 23:16:46< Crab_> boucman: yes, for me it's "5,6,7"
20091213 23:18:09< boucman> Ivanovic: ok, i'll PM whoever I can't contact tonight
20091213 23:18:18< Ivanovic> okay
20091213 23:18:28< Ivanovic> off to bed again, am not 100% healthy atm...
20091213 23:18:44< boucman> Ivanovic: sleep well
20091213 23:19:04< boucman> grzywacz, deekay around ?
20091213 23:26:36< crimson_penguin> BroodKiller: yes, but if you didn't compile it fat, it won't work on ppc or x86
20091213 23:27:03< BroodKiller> how do I do that?
20091213 23:27:31< crimson_penguin> BroodKiller: um, on Mac you don't just make an executable, you make a .app, which has the executable in it, as well as all libraries, etc.
20091213 23:27:47< BroodKiller> yeah, I remember, you mentioned that before
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20091213 23:28:52< crimson_penguin> well you can specify -arch i386 or -arch ppc, or I think both
20091213 23:28:57< crimson_penguin> XCode makes it easier
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20091213 23:31:28< BroodKiller> hmm, I built wxW from the command line
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20091213 23:33:06< BroodKiller> I was getting some errors with the Xcode project, a wrong version of gcc or whatever
20091213 23:33:58< BroodKiller> no need to say that I am not very skilled with Xcode, since I'm using a mac for the first time now
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20091213 23:52:19< AI0867> about the boost 1.41 issue: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=397550#p397550
20091213 23:52:27< AI0867> it's been fixed on arch
20091213 23:59:00< crimson_penguin> agh, I keep forgetting to upload my build...
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