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20091216 00:02:30< Aethaeryn> nooooooo
20091216 00:02:46< Aethaeryn> everyone I want to talk to gets netsplit before I can send them a message :P
20091216 00:03:07< Espreon> ...
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20091216 00:09:03< Aethaeryn> anyone know an easy way to remove a terrain overlay?
20091216 00:09:38< Aethaeryn> via WML, of course
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20091216 00:16:23< Aethaeryn> nevermind
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20091216 00:22:22< Aethaeryn> Crab_: Alright, I've done just about everything I need to make it playable, I'm just running some local tests to catch bugs.
20091216 00:23:06< Crab_> Aethaeryn: good. and I've finally started to put down the 'ai guide for 1.8', in the wiki, about ways to mess up with the ai..
20091216 00:28:08< Aethaeryn> Crab_: If you want to do a test game now, I'll be on the 1.7.10 (or SVN, if you only use trunk) server if you want me to. It should work without download...
20091216 00:28:29< Aethaeryn> Otherwise, I'll work on the dynamic village price, making the cost of base villages go up for every two of those you have.
20091216 00:28:38< Aethaeryn> (To prevent income village spam)
20091216 00:29:23< Crab_> Aethaeryn: well, I'm compiling now, this takes quite a time at my notebook. so, feel free to just PM me the .cfg if you want me to take a look 
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20091216 00:30:06< Aethaeryn> It's on wesnoth-umc-dev SVN now... I like just liking to the sourceforge SVN browser to show the code that way.
20091216 00:30:16< Crab_> ok
20091216 00:31:49< Aethaeryn> Gg^Vh is the village in question, btw. I'm thinking that the base cost should be 5g, but for every 2 villages you have, it goes up by 1g. After you have 14 income villages, it will actually be more expensive than a stable, but you'd probably stop after it gets to 10g since recruiting villages are just better.
20091216 00:32:34< Crab_> it is a base cost of building the village ?
20091216 00:33:07< Aethaeryn> Base cost of building the village is 5g. The base cost for most recruiting villages is 15g, but stable is 12g since there's only two cavalry.
20091216 00:33:40< Crab_> are villages 'capturable' by opponent ?
20091216 00:33:43< Aethaeryn> Yes.
20091216 00:33:56< Crab_> the cost depends on the number of villages you currently own ?
20091216 00:34:05< Aethaeryn> When I implement it.
20091216 00:34:19< Aethaeryn> I think all villages should be convertable unless you're in active war with the faction, like what you start out with orcs.
20091216 00:34:46< Crab_> then can't it be abused, say, in 2vs2 games, by 'build N villages, let opponent get them, build another N villages (cost will be low again), repeat,...'
20091216 00:35:08< Aethaeryn> hmm, do you think there should be a variable counter, then?
20091216 00:35:33< Aethaeryn> so at plain.village=2 the cost is 6, at plain.village=4, the cost is 8, etc.?
20091216 00:35:39< Aethaeryn> *7
20091216 00:35:47< Aethaeryn> (7, not 8)
20091216 00:35:53< Crab_> well, I prefer 
20091216 00:36:08< Crab_> 'income non-linearly depends on number of villages'
20091216 00:36:46< Aethaeryn> elaborate?
20091216 00:37:15< Aethaeryn> Each village yields less?
20091216 00:37:16< Crab_> e.g.: 'first five villages give +3 gold per turn, next five give +2 gold per turn, other +1 gold per turn'
20091216 00:37:29< Aethaeryn> Hmm, idk. That's kind of un-KISS.
20091216 00:37:59< Aethaeryn> As it is, there is no difference in income between this and mainline, and the advantage of income-only villages over recruiting villages is that income-only villages are cheaper.
20091216 00:38:35< Crab_> Aethaeryn: maybe then limit 'minimum range between villages must be greater than X' ?
20091216 00:38:51< Crab_> this way, 'cottage spam' will at least force to 'expand' more.
20091216 00:39:03< Aethaeryn> hmmm, idk, Freeciv has a minimum range and it can get annoying.
20091216 00:39:23< Aethaeryn> One thing interesting about building mods is that you could do something like build a wall of villages with a moat in front
20091216 00:40:09< Aethaeryn> I think the best strategy though would be to put income villages in the back (behind your castle if possible) all next to each other.
20091216 00:40:27< Aethaeryn> Perhaps a minimum spacing of 1 would be good.
20091216 00:40:49< Aethaeryn> Since no mainline villages are next to each other, but too far spacing might be annoying.
20091216 00:40:56< Aethaeryn> And that right then and there halves the number of village spam.
20091216 00:42:30< Crab_> not just halves :) 
20091216 00:42:50< Crab_> x4 as many space is needed
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20091216 00:48:51< Aethaeryn> sorry, the wireless died on me just long enough to disconnect, apparently.
20091216 00:49:12< Aethaeryn> CIA-28: Think that's a suitable thing, though? Have it filter to make sure there's no village touching it?
20091216 00:49:21< Aethaeryn> whoops, stupid <tab> thing :P
20091216 00:49:23< Aethaeryn> Crab_: ^
20091216 00:49:27< Crab_> hehe
20091216 00:49:59< Aethaeryn> I'll do another anti-village-spma thing if this isn't enough, but it's something.
20091216 00:50:20< Crab_> Aethaeryn: well, if you want it to be balanced, you must make sure that there's a variety of possible tactics
20091216 00:50:26< Aethaeryn> After this village thing, it's just a few MP tests, adding the other factions/buildings, and then onto the "Dynamic" part of the era
20091216 00:50:32< Aethaeryn> Yeah, of course.
20091216 00:50:40< Crab_> Aethaeryn: as in Rock-paper-scissors
20091216 00:50:55< Aethaeryn> Balancing comes last. :)
20091216 00:51:11< Aethaeryn> The prices of buildings, for instance, are pretty random
20091216 00:51:52< Crab_> e.g. "village spam is beaten by fast attack", "fast attack is beaten by turtling&teching", "turtling&teching is beaten by village spam"
20091216 00:53:13< Aethaeryn> right, all of that requires the functions implemented first, and then we can balance costs.
20091216 00:53:25< Aethaeryn> For instance, there isn't any tech yet.
20091216 00:53:47< Aethaeryn> Eventually, you should be able to research tech in each building that will do such things as improve your recruits and even allow some lvl 2s or special units
20091216 00:53:50< Crab_> well, balancing between two strategies is hard...
20091216 00:53:55< Aethaeryn> Yeah
20091216 00:54:12< Crab_> balancing between three is easier - it is possible to achieve a stable balance :)
20091216 00:54:13< Aethaeryn> Then of course there's the strategy of which factions to anger and which ones to use their units/buildings
20091216 00:54:52< Aethaeryn> Of course, that's pretty fair as you have a wide variety of options, it's just a matter of making the better buildings more expensive so you cannot spam units from good buildings while you can from bad buildings
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20091216 00:56:16< Crab_> no, not just that... it should involve something more than just 'gold costs' - or the 'leap' from 'bad' to 'good' must be big enough. eg 'tier 1' vs 'tier 2'
20091216 00:58:35< Aethaeryn> Crab_: $x1 is the current hex. How do I signify all neighboring hexes?
20091216 00:58:50< Crab_> by using radius ?
20091216 00:59:26< Aethaeryn> [filter_radius]?
20091216 01:01:04< Aethaeryn> hmmm
20091216 01:01:05< Aethaeryn> wait
20091216 01:01:27< Crab_> no, just radius=X
20091216 01:03:00< Crab_> e.g.  something like : show menu item if [not] any locations within radius 1 from here are villages[/not]
20091216 01:03:19< Aethaeryn> Crab_: like this?
20091216 01:03:20< Aethaeryn> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m5635582b
20091216 01:05:20< Aethaeryn> the first half is what ANL already uses to filter for the current terrain
20091216 01:06:39< Crab_> yes, something like this
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20091216 01:22:18< Aethaeryn> Crab_: okay, that didn't work so I went to the wiki and tried this fix (which also doesn't appear to work): http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m3f764f13
20091216 01:22:46< Aethaeryn> again, the only part that doesn't work is the filter for bordering villages.
20091216 01:23:09< Crab_> well, you want a location with exactly 1 not-village ?
20091216 01:23:18< Aethaeryn> no
20091216 01:23:40< Aethaeryn> I want to have it be a location not touching any existing villages
20091216 01:23:46< Crab_> then why    count=1 ?
20091216 01:24:03< Aethaeryn> hmm
20091216 01:24:21< Aethaeryn> because wiki documentation is bad and ambiguous sometimes :P
20091216 01:25:20< Aethaeryn> removing count=1 still doesn't make it work
20091216 01:27:36< Crab_> ok, will try myself..
20091216 01:28:00< Aethaeryn> Crab_: note that the first part works
20091216 01:28:04< Aethaeryn> so no need to rewrite that
20091216 01:28:19< Aethaeryn> it's only the part in [filter_adjacent_location] that's broken.
20091216 01:32:05< Crab_> got it
20091216 01:32:42< Crab_> here's a slightly smaller show_if http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m20341293
20091216 01:32:55< Crab_> you'll need to re-add type/terrain restrictions
20091216 01:33:10< Crab_> (I tested in the tutorial, so I dropped them for simplicity)
20091216 01:34:09< Aethaeryn> ok
20091216 01:34:16< Aethaeryn> Crab_: did you compile 1.7.10?
20091216 01:34:36< Crab_> yes
20091216 01:34:40< Aethaeryn> After I test it locally and commit it to SVN, I'll host a game.
20091216 01:34:45< Crab_> ok
20091216 01:35:00< Crab_> with  [filter_adjacent_location], you'd probably need count=6
20091216 01:35:12< Crab_> i.e. " all six adjacent locations must be not villages"
20091216 01:36:05< Aethaeryn> yeah, a slight adaptation of your code works
20091216 01:36:09< Aethaeryn> applying it to all buildings
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20091216 01:40:02< Aethaeryn> Crab_: okay, it works.
20091216 01:40:26< Aethaeryn> Village lines are prevented, but that doesn't limit tactics. You can still make lines of villages, just with castles or forests in between the villages.
20091216 01:41:43< Aethaeryn> Crab_: Want to playtest it now?
20091216 01:41:50< Crab_> ok
20091216 01:42:36< Aethaeryn> ok, brb in about 5 minutes then I'll join the lobby
20091216 01:45:01< Aethaeryn> Crab_: in 1.7.10 server now
20091216 01:45:29< Aethaeryn> *I'm in
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20091216 01:46:34< Crab_> what is the port of 1.7.10 server ?
20091216 01:47:39< Crab_> ok, seems I found it
20091216 01:49:07< Crab_> heh, a segfault in mp lobby :)
20091216 01:49:14< Crab_> I'll reconnect now
20091216 01:50:41< Crab_> Aethaeryn: so, create the game
20091216 01:51:54< Aethaeryn> CIA-53: sorry, hungry cat
20091216 01:52:01< Aethaeryn> bah
20091216 01:52:02< Crab_> ok
20091216 01:52:07< Aethaeryn> c<tab> needs to do the latest c-name speaking
20091216 01:52:18< Aethaeryn> not a CIA not even here :P
20091216 01:52:27< Aethaeryn> I guess all these netsplits bugged out my IRC
20091216 01:52:47< Crab_> might be
20091216 01:53:12< Aethaeryn> made
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20091216 03:04:44< faryshta> I was thinking about an "steal" ability different to the one on the FIP.
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20091216 03:06:04< faryshta> Basically each time you kill a unit you have 30% chances of receive the gold he got on that turn (1 gold per level or 0 if loyal).
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20091216 03:42:09< Crab_> Aethaeryn : good night
20091216 03:42:17< Aethaeryn> Crab_: good night
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20091216 05:26:22< Cheese-kun> Uh, why does Pango render things horribly in Windows?
20091216 05:26:32< Cheese-kun> http://imagebin.org/75658
20091216 05:31:06< Cheese-kun> It's even worse with diacritics...
20091216 05:36:59< Cheese-kun> mordante: Perhaps you could do something about this?
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20091216 10:42:22< Chusslove> Ivanovic: There?
20091216 10:42:25< Chusslove> http://pastebin.com/m1b1c61eb
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20091216 11:13:38< Ivanovic> moin
20091216 11:15:12< Ivanovic> Chusslove: what is the aim of this patch?
20091216 11:16:11< Ivanovic> yes, i prefer to have *some* documentation regarding "ugly hacks"
20091216 11:18:20< Chusslove> Ivanovic: There is a bug in po4a somewhere, it is unable to handle opening tag split over lines.
20091216 11:18:38< Ivanovic> Chusslove: is this one reported upstream?
20091216 11:18:49< Chusslove> So this added line just makes all opening tags split over lines in manual.en.xml into one line.
20091216 11:19:05< Chusslove> I'm not there yet :)
20091216 11:19:10< Chusslove> (Bug report.)
20091216 11:19:21< Ivanovic> thta is: i prefer to stay with the older version and wait for a fix in po4a
20091216 11:19:29< Ivanovic> instead of adding ugly hacks in our code
20091216 11:19:36< Chusslove> It's a workaround, but a safe transformation.
20091216 11:19:56< Ivanovic> yes, it is a same transformation, but an ugly hack, too
20091216 11:19:57< Chusslove> Ok.
20091216 11:20:41< Ivanovic> s/same/saf
20091216 11:20:43< Ivanovic> e
20091216 11:20:45< Chusslove> Right.
20091216 11:21:00< Ivanovic> the problem is with maintaining build systems
20091216 11:21:13< Ivanovic> in general i prefer not to add any of those ugly hacks unless there is no way around it
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20091216 11:26:24< CIA-28> ivanovic * r40270 /trunk/ (9 files in 8 dirs): updated Chinese (Simplified) translation
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20091216 11:55:10< Chusslove> Ivanovic: Just for the recored, newer po4a will also fix this bug: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?14874
20091216 11:55:48< Chusslove> ...meaining it will add ~20 messages to the template.
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20091216 12:22:50< Ivanovic> Chusslove: so have you already checked if the problem is already reported upstream?
20091216 12:23:01< Ivanovic> the one about newlines in opening tags
20091216 12:23:59< Chusslove> I did check, and sent away a bug report.
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20091216 12:39:22< Ivanovic> Chusslove: which version of po4a have you tried?
20091216 12:39:32< Chusslove> 0.36.6
20091216 12:40:00< Chusslove> Debian Testing package.
20091216 12:40:15< Ivanovic> 0.37.1 is broken, too
20091216 12:40:33< Ivanovic> do you have an url to your bugreport so that i can track it?
20091216 12:40:42< Ivanovic> since po4a is not updated *this* often in gentoo
20091216 12:41:02< Chusslove> Sent it to Debian BTS (mail), they haven't processed it yet.
20091216 12:41:12< Chusslove> Will give you the link once it's there.
20091216 12:41:15< Ivanovic> okay
20091216 12:41:20< Rhonda> hmmmmm
20091216 12:41:43< Rhonda> "but if you are using a screen reader for blinds" sounds like a valid point, but on the other hand: How many blinds are able to play wesnoth to start with?
20091216 12:41:55< Ivanovic> none
20091216 12:42:10< Ivanovic> since we work with graphics and don't have any "alternate representation" of units
20091216 12:42:12< Rhonda> What good is blind support for handicaped in a manual for something they can't use anyway?
20091216 12:43:31< Ivanovic> Chusslove: will also ping the people in #po4a on oftc about this
20091216 12:43:54< Chusslove> Great.
20091216 12:44:56< Ivanovic> not many people around
20091216 12:45:03< Rhonda> bug nekral :)
20091216 12:45:17< Rhonda> He's the important one.
20091216 12:45:36< Rhonda> s/important/relevant or whatever/
20091216 12:45:48< Ivanovic> Rhonda: yeah, that is the only one with OP in the chan
20091216 12:45:53< Ivanovic> okay, the other people in there are eg ettin
20091216 12:46:59< Rhonda> He's from france, if you wonder about timezone.
20091216 12:47:18< Ivanovic> his hostmask said this much
20091216 12:47:19< Ivanovic> ;)
20091216 12:48:42< Rhonda> One never knows, he might have a debian cloak too
20091216 12:49:32< Rhonda> How do you know from *.fbx.proxad.net that it's france?
20091216 12:49:46< Ivanovic> okay, then it was the name and pure assuming
20091216 12:50:01< Ivanovic> yes, i got a cold including headache and everything, real thinking does not work for me atm...
20091216 12:50:03< Ivanovic> ;)
20091216 12:51:49< loonycyborg> Well.. You could use whois on it :P
20091216 12:52:22< Rhonda> loonycyborg: Some people use shell accounts and proxies and whatsnot. :)
20091216 12:55:17< loonycyborg> proxad.net really looks like a french residental ISP. They aren'y likely to offer shell accounts to people around the world..
20091216 12:55:29< loonycyborg> *aren't
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20091216 14:31:46< Ivanovic> zookeeper: any idea what could cause this error? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?14954
20091216 14:32:10< Ivanovic> zookeeper: uhm, have you already fixed this one? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?14938
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20091216 14:36:23< zookeeper> no idea about the first, and yeah, marked the second as fixed now..
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20091216 17:13:11< CIA-28> ivanovic * r40271 /trunk/po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): updated Latvian translation
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20091216 19:28:51< mordante> servus
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20091216 19:40:43< boucman> Ivanovic: around ?
20091216 19:42:16< Ivanovic> jupp
20091216 19:43:06< Ivanovic> boucman: you should *really* book very soon
20091216 19:43:21< Ivanovic> looks like the number of beds available is going down rapidly
20091216 19:43:39< boucman> yeah, that's why i pinged you...
20091216 19:44:00< boucman> i was not able to get grzywacz or deekay to answer me, so i can't book yet
20091216 19:44:07< Ivanovic> argh
20091216 19:44:11< boucman> and i'm leaving for vacation VERY soon now
20091216 19:44:15< Ivanovic> grzywacz, deekay: *urgent* ping
20091216 19:44:22< Ivanovic> boucman: then book for those that you know about
20091216 19:44:30< boucman> k
20091216 19:44:37< Ivanovic> grzywacz and deekay will then have to book for themselves
20091216 19:45:34< boucman> will do tonight
20091216 19:45:47< boucman> for crab, noyga and I (iirc, will check)
20091216 19:49:46< Ivanovic> looks like exactly 3 beds in the 10bed mixed shared facilities are still free
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20091216 19:50:13< Ivanovic> the 14bed rooms are completely booked out for saturday already
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20091216 19:51:01< Ivanovic> that is: you can probably somehow still get rooms when emailling the hostel
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20091216 20:06:22< boucman> ok, booked
20091216 20:06:29< boucman> editing wiki replying on ML
20091216 20:07:30< Ivanovic> okay
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20091216 20:16:02< Noyga> thanks, boucman
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20091216 20:23:03< Crab_> boucman: thanks.
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20091216 20:31:59< grzywacz> Ivanovic, will do.
20091216 20:32:46< Ivanovic> grzywacz: you should book *really* soon
20091216 20:32:53< Ivanovic> best thing to do: mail the hostel directly
20091216 20:32:59< boucman> grzywacz: read : you should book NOW
20091216 20:34:14< Ivanovic> there are *NO* beds left in the 14 and 10bed mixed shared facilities via the only system
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20091216 20:34:25< Ivanovic> maybe you can get a bed in those via email booking
20091216 20:34:37< Ivanovic> there are still beds available in the 4 bed rooms
20091216 20:35:20< Ivanovic> and since you will be departing on monday anyway, you might directly want to book for all 3 nights
20091216 20:35:22< Ivanovic> ;)
20091216 20:35:56< grzywacz> Well, obviously if there are no beds when we know we can book for sure, we won't be able to come.
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20091216 20:36:52< Ivanovic> like i already said before: mail the hostel
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20091216 20:50:07< mordante> I'm off bye
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20091216 21:32:24< Chusslove> Rhonda: I suppose that if a bug submitted by reportbug has not appeared after ~10 hrs, then I've screwed up something?
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20091216 21:48:08< deekay> Ivanovic: When we will find some time, we will try to book something for us
20091216 21:49:01< Ivanovic> okay
20091216 21:55:39< CIA-28> caslav_ilic * r40272 /trunk/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Updated localized images for Russian.
20091216 21:56:26< CIA-28> caslav_ilic * r40273 /trunk/l10n-track: Updated localized images for Russian (forgot to run lbundle-check).
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20091216 22:08:31< silene> hi
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20091216 22:20:53< Sapient> yo
20091216 22:26:29< fendrin> wesbot: seen tsi
20091216 22:26:29< wesbot> fendrin: Sorry, I don't know of tsi.
20091216 22:26:39< fendrin> wesbot: seen space_invader
20091216 22:26:39< wesbot> fendrin: Sorry, I don't know of space_invader.
20091216 22:27:21< fendrin> wesbot: seen thespaceinvader
20091216 22:27:21< wesbot> fendrin: The person with the nick thespaceinvader last spoke 1d 23h ago.  1d 21h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: "night all"
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20091216 22:58:30< YogiHH> hello
20091216 22:58:38< Crab_> hi, YogiHH
20091216 22:58:58< YogiHH> Ivanovic: you were looking for me? Fosdem, i suppose?
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20091216 22:59:10< Ivanovic> yeah, fosdem
20091216 22:59:20< Ivanovic> hi YogiHH, nice to see you around again
20091216 22:59:57< YogiHH> Ivanovic: I will be there at Fosdem
20091216 23:00:06< Ivanovic> YogiHH: cool!
20091216 23:00:14< Ivanovic> don't forget to add yourself in the wiki
20091216 23:00:16< Ivanovic> ;)
20091216 23:00:23< boucman> Ivanovic: I had no answer from the iphone maintainer, btw :(
20091216 23:00:35< Ivanovic> :(
20091216 23:00:38 * YogiHH snips his fingers
20091216 23:00:45< YogiHH> Ivanovic: done ;-)
20091216 23:00:51< boucman> i'll reping him after the holiday season I guess
20091216 23:01:34< Ivanovic> boucman: okay
20091216 23:02:30< Ivanovic> AI0867, boucman, Crab_, deekay, fendrin, grzywacz, mordante: don't forget to add some phone number or the likes in the wiki so that we can easily coordinate
20091216 23:02:34< Ivanovic> s/wiki/forums
20091216 23:02:41< Ivanovic> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=283311#283311
20091216 23:03:04< Crab_> Ivanovic: ok
20091216 23:03:18< Ivanovic> i assume that we will gather at the greek restaurant again, just as in the last years
20091216 23:03:19< Ivanovic> ;)
20091216 23:04:05< boucman> Ivanovic: nothing to change for me
20091216 23:04:24< fendrin> Ivanovic: I did add my phone number, didn't I?
20091216 23:05:37< boucman> Fendrin: +49 177 851  xxxx
20091216 23:05:41< boucman> yes you did
20091216 23:05:52< fendrin> Ivanovic: I missed the right place, and subscribed for 2009... Stupid me
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20091216 23:11:16< Espreon> Hello kitty_.
20091216 23:11:23< kitty_> hi
20091216 23:11:42< YogiHH> hi kitty_ 
20091216 23:11:49< boucman> hello kitty_
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20091216 23:33:17< Soliton> Rhonda: https://launchpad.net/~wesnoth-unstable
20091216 23:49:57< Aethaeryn> Crab_: I just finished coding the other factions. Now I just need to do the village cap and the factional relationships, and then the core functionality is done.
20091216 23:50:18< Crab_> Aethaeryn: good
20091216 23:50:30< Crab_> seems that all is going smoothly 
20091216 23:50:35< Aethaeryn> I can probably put off the faction part for tomorrow, since the village cap will prevent large banner armies.
20091216 23:52:18< Aethaeryn> One disadvantage is that I had to take away village upgrading since it was broken.
20091216 23:52:26< Aethaeryn> I'll have to add it as a separate functionality.
20091216 23:56:06< Crab_> what was the problem with village upgrading ?
20091216 23:57:53< Aethaeryn> If you "upgrade" a village by simply building over it, the game won't let you, since there's a village nearby (the one you're replacing) :P
20091216 23:58:04< Aethaeryn> Rather than make the filter more complex, it'd be easier to have a separate upgrade feature, imo
20091216 23:59:16< Crab_> Aethaeryn: or a separate 'remove village' option - as a quick hack unti the upgrade feature is ready
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