--- Log opened Thu Jan 07 00:00:06 2010
20100107 00:01:19< Crab_> but this would reduce the 'functional' aspect of fai.. as these are operations with side effect
20100107 00:04:20< deekay> As a sidenote, there are already operations with side effects for bebuging purposes :)
20100107 00:04:37< deekay> Crab_: But how would a fai CA look like then?
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20100107 00:05:46< Crab_> execute, in most cases, would be easy, like : 'execute items which are in the list of considered moves'
20100107 00:06:23< Crab_> that's very similar to what autoevaluation currently does
20100107 00:06:37< Crab_> we only need to delay it until we're actually chosen to execute this
20100107 00:09:03< deekay> ok.. and where is this place for "local fai variable" ?
20100107 00:09:39< Crab_> deekay: it should be scoped to the fai candidate action scope, and can be accessed through formula_ai object
20100107 00:10:09< Crab_> e.g. fai candidate action can set it up before evaluation and grab it after evaluation, and restore it before execution
20100107 00:11:13< deekay> Crab_: ok, could you write some simple example of move that would use this approach?
20100107 00:11:22< Crab_> trying to do so atm...
20100107 00:13:16< Crab_> hard to do. still, there's alternate way which is suitable for quite a big number of actions:
20100107 00:13:29< Crab_> " do_scoring_and_pick_best_possible(potential_actions,'a',get_score(a)) "
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20100107 00:14:24< Crab_> e.g. wrap the logic into a big function do_scoring_and_pick_best_possible() which will run a user-specified get_score function on each of potential_actions and return a pair  <score,move>
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20100107 00:14:40< Crab_> it is possibly that it can even be written in fai
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20100107 00:16:09< deekay> And where would be is_ok check?
20100107 00:16:39< Crab_> inside that do_scoring_and_pick_best_possible function
20100107 00:17:12< deekay> So we would need a fai function to check it...
20100107 00:17:32< Crab_> yes, looks like that
20100107 00:17:33< deekay> With ligic in C++ that has dynamic_casts
20100107 00:17:38< deekay> logic even
20100107 00:17:47< Crab_> yes. those casts can be later refactored away
20100107 00:19:19< Crab_> the point of hiding all logic inside a big function is, of course, making writing those functions easier for newcomers
20100107 00:19:49< deekay> dyes
20100107 00:19:52< deekay> yes'
20100107 00:20:05< Crab_> e.g. :   do_scoring_and_pick_best_possible (move(me.loc,loc(1,1)), {AI_CA_COMBAT_SCORE}-10 );
20100107 00:20:12< deekay> ok, it look all ok, besides this dynamic_cast thing imho
20100107 00:20:30< Crab_> well, this is a technical point and it can be removed later
20100107 00:20:35< deekay> Yes
20100107 00:20:41< Crab_> the user doesn't see it, after all :)
20100107 00:20:48< deekay> Good for him. :)
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20100107 00:22:38< Crab_> so, this'll replace top with bottom: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/695219
20100107 00:23:12< Crab_> or, more strictly, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/695220
20100107 00:24:10< Crab_> I'll need a lot of functions to make it all easier to write...
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20100107 05:32:40< CIA-61> jetryl * r40588 /trunk/data/core/images/units/monsters/ (5 files): Added the images for the L2 riderless wolf.
20100107 05:33:00< Jetrel> No new strings there, shouldn't break the stringfreeze.
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20100107 10:47:10< Ivanovic> moin
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20100107 12:28:20< CIA-61> ilor * r40589 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/lobby_main.cpp: lobby debug logging adjustments
20100107 12:28:24< CIA-61> ilor * r40590 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/ (lobby_main.cpp lobby_main.hpp): 
20100107 12:28:24< CIA-61> Fix a crash on clicking "send private message" in the lobby.
20100107 12:28:24< CIA-61> It was caused by the known issue with a widget being deleted from it's own signal handler, worked around by delaying a playerlist update occuring in switch_to_window.
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20100107 12:35:20< ilor_> AI0867: ^
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20100107 12:44:42< Ivanovic> zookeeper: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15066
20100107 12:48:38< CIA-61> ilor * r40591 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/ (lobby_main.cpp lobby_main.hpp): fix joining games by a doubleclick on the gamelist
20100107 12:48:45< CIA-61> ilor * r40592 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/lobby_main.cpp: do not ask for a password when trying to observe a game, since it's not needed anyway
20100107 12:50:15< Ivanovic> nice
20100107 12:52:21< ilor_> mordante: there's an issue when a gamelist update takes place while there's a sub-dialog open (ie teh player info dialog in the lobby), the lobby overwrites the dialog
20100107 12:53:45< ilor_> mordante: should I keep track of it in my code and prevent the updates or is it a more general issue you'd like to handle?
20100107 12:56:56< ilor_> mordante: note that this problem does not appear when for example the old-gui settings dialog is shown in the lobby
20100107 13:03:09< zookeeper> Ivanovic, checking..
20100107 13:06:47< zookeeper> Ivanovic, looks like it's been that way for years, maybe always
20100107 13:07:14< Ivanovic> bug or feature?
20100107 13:07:16< zookeeper> i'll fix it anyway, since it doesn't really make any sense
20100107 13:07:19< Ivanovic> somehow i think this is more like a bug
20100107 13:08:04< zookeeper> yeah, pretty surely just a copy-paste mistake originally, since those are the coordinates of another merman cage
20100107 13:09:28< CIA-61> zookeeper * r40593 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/scenarios/04_The_Bay_of_Pearls.cfg: Fixed bug #15066 by placing the stray merman around the same cage as the rest.
20100107 13:16:18< Ivanovic> ilor_: don't forget to mark https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15058 as fixed, if it really is
20100107 13:16:20< Ivanovic> ;)
20100107 13:26:03< stikonas> wesbot: topic
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20100107 13:26:05< CIA-61> ilor * r40594 /trunk/src/editor/action.cpp: (untested) fix for a gcc warning in some gcc versions
20100107 13:29:15< CIA-61> ivanovic * r40595 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: long forgotten purge of old release notes...
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20100107 15:51:33< CIA-61> crab * r40598 /trunk/ (changelog src/ai/formula/function_table.cpp): Fixed unit_at formula ai function to return null on null input
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20100107 16:21:03< teaser> esr (or any other bug-tracker deamon): this can be marked 'fixed' I think https://gna.org/bugs/?10381 (I'm searching to find if a FR has been made already)
20100107 16:26:32< teaser> and while we are at it: this too https://gna.org/bugs/?9681 can be marked 'fixed' as there is a double-click dialog offering the same options)
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20100107 16:30:47< Soliton> allefant: the unicode error is not fixed. afaict the problem is that glob.glob() doesn't return unicode.
20100107 16:31:32< AI0867> wesbot: log r40590
20100107 16:31:33< wesbot> ilor * r40590 : Fix a crash on clicking "send private message" in the lobby.It was caused by the known issue with a widget being deleted from it's own signal handler, worked around by delaying a playerlist update occuring in switch_to_window.
20100107 16:31:37< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=40590
20100107 16:32:25< allefant> Soliton: is there some quick way for me to reproduce this?
20100107 16:33:21< allefant> (i.e. not involving download of the whole 1.6 addon server contents...)
20100107 16:33:41< Soliton> allefant: run wmllint on the Wesnoths_kaempfer addon.
20100107 16:34:05< allefant> oh, so wmllint also uses this
20100107 16:34:30< allefant> can you give me the command to get that addon?
20100107 16:34:31< Soliton> s/wmllint/wmlunits/
20100107 16:34:36< allefant> oh, heh
20100107 16:34:55< Soliton> --download=Wesnoths_kaempfer
20100107 16:37:46< ilor_> AI0867: is the crash fixed for you?
20100107 16:39:01< allefant> hm, wmlunits is only scanning mainline
20100107 16:40:31< AI0867> ilor_: haven't tested yet
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20100107 16:40:57< allefant> Soliton: where would i put the Wesnoths_kaempfer folder to be picked up?
20100107 16:41:40< allefant> unfortunately all I have from Wesnoth is a fresh svn checkout from trunk and i forgot all about the directory structure :P
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20100107 16:47:17< AI0867> ilor: now the dialog disappears as soon as I hover over any button (except for that button)
20100107 16:47:30< AI0867> clicking it (close button works too) causes a segmentation fault
20100107 16:47:31< AI0867> #0  0x00000000 in ?? ()
20100107 16:47:31< AI0867> #1  0x0846acb9 in gui2::event::implementation::fire_event<boost::function<void ()(gui2::event::tdispatcher&, gui2::event::tevent, bool&, bool&), std::allocator<void> >, gui2::event::ttrigger> ()
20100107 16:48:24< AI0867> #2  0x0846b2d3 in gui2::event::fire_event_double_click<(gui2::event::tevent)11, (gui2::event::tevent)12, &(gui2::tevent_executor::wants_mouse_left_double_click() const), boost::function<void ()(gui2::event::tdispatcher&, gui2::event::tevent, bool&, bool&), std::allocator<void> >, gui2::event::ttrigger> ()
20100107 16:48:29< AI0867> #3  0x08468182 in gui2::event::tdispatcher::fire ()
20100107 16:49:50< Soliton> allefant: put it under campaigns or add-ons.
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20100107 17:17:30< Ivanovic> wow, that reported post *really* is bad regarding use of smilies...
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20100107 17:23:37< allefant> Soliton: i used "-u tmp" and tried putting it in "tmp/campaigns" and "tmp/add-ons" but it always says 0 units found
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20100107 17:28:48< Soliton> allefant: are you using 1.6 wmlunits?
20100107 17:29:40< allefant> no
20100107 17:29:55< allefant> trunk
20100107 17:34:41< Soliton> does it work with 1.6 wmlunits?
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20100107 18:01:09< AI0867> ilor: got my reply?
20100107 18:01:51< ilor> AI0867: yeah, managed to reproduce, must be a different thing
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20100107 18:07:35< esr> Crab_: Will the RCA AI fix the north-west bias issue? (bug  #12978)
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20100107 18:11:52< Crab_> esr:  no, it should not fix it by itself.
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20100107 18:36:59< CIA-61> torangan * r40599 /trunk/ (changelog po/wesnoth-lib/he.po): hebrew translation update
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20100107 20:08:46< Rhonda> Did anyone try wesnoth on the N900 yet? Does it work, is there some "port" or are the official Debian packages usable for that?
20100107 20:11:44< zookeeper> i'm gonna rename core/images/terrain/stars/blue1.png to blue.png, since that's the naming scheme which works with the terrain graphics macros
20100107 20:12:31< Ivanovic> Rhonda: it should be possible to just compile and use it
20100107 20:12:38< Ivanovic> no idea if there is a "maemo binary"
20100107 20:12:40< zookeeper> it's not used in mainline, but probably by some UMC
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20100107 20:13:19< Ivanovic> though in general the normal game started with --smallgui --fullscreen should be anything required
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20100107 20:16:24< CIA-61> zookeeper * r40600 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/stars/blue.png: Renamed terrain/stars/blue1.png to blue.png, so that the star images can be used with the standard terrain graphics macros.
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20100107 20:21:03< CIA-61> silene * r40601 /trunk/src/help.cpp: Typo.
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20100107 20:53:22< CIA-61> ai0867 * r40602 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: Add testcase for combining animation with ~CS() image path function
20100107 21:21:54< silene> AI0867: i'm a bit surprised by this commit; how come you put the image operators after the delay rather than after the file path?
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20100107 21:41:53< CIA-61> silene * r40603 /trunk/src/halo.cpp: Fixed segfault on invalid halo.
20100107 21:52:13< CIA-61> silene * r40604 /trunk/src/halo.cpp: Fixed split of halo description.
20100107 21:52:16< CIA-61> silene * r40605 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: Fixed position of image operators.
20100107 21:55:18< CIA-61> silene * r40606 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: Removed broken test.
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20100107 22:18:22< CIA-61> silene * r40607 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: Fixed position of image operators.
20100107 22:20:59< AI0867> silene: right, that's one error
20100107 22:24:10< silene> AI0867: that being said, i don't understand why image operators seem not to be applied to halos
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20100107 22:42:51< Ivanovic> boucman: do you know why image operators are not applied to halos?
20100107 22:43:06< boucman> no, good question
20100107 22:43:37< boucman> actually, what haloes are you thinking of ? unit haloes ?
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20100107 22:45:28< Ivanovic> IIRC there is/was a bug report about this, too
20100107 22:45:39< Ivanovic> it is just that silene mentioned it about 5mins before you joined
20100107 22:46:01< boucman> Ivanovic: if you find it, assign to me, i'll have a look this we
20100107 22:46:08< boucman> how are we doing lobby-wise ?
20100107 22:46:17< Ivanovic> we are significantly improving
20100107 22:46:33< Ivanovic> that is: atm there is still the jumping, but load is down to a reasonable level
20100107 22:46:48< boucman> ok, so on our way, but not there yet :)
20100107 22:46:51< Ivanovic> (though it should be tested some times in the afternoon on saturday since that is probably when the load is highest
20100107 22:48:07< Ivanovic> boucman: at least i think there was also some report in the forums about differences between normal images and images done via halo
20100107 22:48:23< Ivanovic> differences in the syntax to use and stuff like that
20100107 22:48:52< boucman> hmm
20100107 22:49:01< boucman> not unit haloes, then, maybe terrain haloes
20100107 22:51:19< Ivanovic> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28372
20100107 22:56:34< Ivanovic> boucman: what shall we do with this patch since dfranke is MIA, too
20100107 22:56:37< Ivanovic> https://gna.org/patch/?1165
20100107 22:57:44< boucman> Ivanovic: I assigned it to me, i'll see if i fix it or transform it into EasyCoding
20100107 22:58:09< boucman> i might also reassign to mordante if it's gui2 (i think recall is now)
20100107 22:58:51< Ivanovic> not sure, might also be fendrin who currently works on a redone recuit/recall dialog...
20100107 22:58:59< Ivanovic> (that is in his branch he works on that)
20100107 22:59:54< boucman> true, i might have misunderstood the commits
20100107 23:00:23< boucman> anyway it's on me now, i'll deal with it later (and to anybody reading irclog, feel free to reassign if you know the right person)
20100107 23:00:41< Ivanovic> why do i think that noone will reassign it...
20100107 23:00:43< Ivanovic> ;)
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20100107 23:01:08< Ivanovic> in general i really like the bugtracker lately
20100107 23:01:16< boucman> you never know... since someone is actually working on that part, it might even be marked as "wont do" pretty fast
20100107 23:01:19< Ivanovic> bugs are basically fixed just a *really* short time after they are entered
20100107 23:01:24< Ivanovic> often in less than 24h
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20100107 23:54:00< AI0867> wesbot: log 40604
20100107 23:54:01< wesbot> silene * r40604 : Fixed split of halo description.
20100107 23:54:01< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=40604
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