--- Log opened Sat Jan 16 00:00:22 2010 20100116 00:00:57< yann> non-reg support could be added to DEPS/graph-includes - but using would require to get a grasp of how the wesnoh deps graph should look 20100116 00:01:13< yann> then it's a matter of listing which exceptions to this goal we currently have and not allowing more to be added 20100116 00:01:27< YogiHH> yann: I thought your account was only there for nostalgic reasons ;-) 20100116 00:01:44< yann> and to remove from the exception list when cleaning up 20100116 00:02:20< yann> partly ;) 20100116 00:20:54-!- lobby_ [n=wesnoth@wesnoth.wesnoth.org] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 00:20:54-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: string/feature freeze active! | 59 bugs, 245 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! 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Copy me into your configuration! X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*"] 20100116 12:00:01-!- deekay [n=dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 12:21:16-!- EdB [n=edb@tss37-1-89-84-18-220.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 12:25:16< Ivanovic> moin 20100116 12:34:40< esr> Ivanovic: Are you aware that the Wesnoth wiki's contytent license no longer matches Wikipedia's? They've changed from GFDL to CC-A-SA. 20100116 12:35:01< Ivanovic> esr: i don't know if we *can* easily change it 20100116 12:35:17< Ivanovic> that is: won't this make it a *lot* more difficult to include content from the wiki ingame 20100116 12:36:49< esr> Don't see why. If the project is the compilation compyright holder on the wiki we're allowed to relicense pieces of it. 20100116 12:38:41< esr> Under U.S. law, anyway. 20100116 12:44:40< loonycyborg> esr: So you can relicense everything that's contributed to the wiki without author's consent? 20100116 12:44:57< loonycyborg> authors' that is :P 20100116 12:45:38< esr> Noy if you do injury to the authors' rights. That means actual damages. 20100116 12:45:46< esr> s/Noy/Not/ 20100116 12:47:19< esr> So, if I cost you money or injure your professional reputation by relicensing, no. Otherwise the law basically doesn't care 20100116 12:51:50< esr> In Europe there's also a notion of "moral rights" -- it's actionable harm to deface an artist's work. (The U.S. opted out of that provision of the Berene Convention.) 20100116 12:52:04< esr> s/Berene/Berne/ 20100116 13:07:34-!- teaser [n=tsr@h-37-106.A254.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 13:14:21< mordante> Ivanovic, ilor, I did some more testing and the cpu usage of about eight times less of yesterday (which suprised me) was due to compiler optimizations 20100116 13:14:30< mordante> I'm now "stuck" at a factor two 20100116 13:14:50< mordante> only I run into redraw glitches which I hope to fix this weekend 20100116 13:15:06< mordante> I think it would be nice to release Wesnoth after these improvements 20100116 13:15:44-!- teaser [n=tsr@h-37-106.A254.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20100116 13:16:05< mordante> since I think that will be the best improvements I can do (except for adding a real tree view widget or getting into ugly hacks) 20100116 13:17:38< mordante> btw ilor these redraw glitches are the same as you already recently discovered (drawing outside the listbox) 20100116 13:19:33-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-158-47-180.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20100116 14:13:17< CIA-53> mordante * r40706 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: Update release notes. 20100116 14:14:02-!- deekay [n=dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has quit [] 20100116 14:28:17< Noyga> hmmm wesnoth doesn't link there :/ 20100116 14:31:00< loonycyborg> What is the exact error message? 20100116 14:33:26< Noyga> some symbols not found used from settings.cpp ... well i'm cleaning all and rebuild to see if it still happens 20100116 14:34:17< Noyga> humm it looks it fixed the problem :) 20100116 14:36:24< mordante> I moved some parts of setting.cpp to their own files, but good to know it works now 20100116 14:36:48-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 14:42:50-!- EdB [n=edb@tss37-1-89-84-18-220.dsl.club-internet.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20100116 14:59:28< mordante> Ivanovic, ilor after fixing my latest patch it's "only" 10% faster, guess really need a treeview for more improvements 20100116 14:59:45< mordante> will test my latest code against 1.7.11 tomorrow 20100116 15:02:45-!- elias [n=elias@allegro/developer/allefant] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 15:17:14< mordante> I'm off bye 20100116 15:17:56-!- mordante [n=mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit ["Leaving"] 20100116 15:35:30< CIA-53> ivanovic * r40707 /trunk/po/wesnoth-utbs/de.po: updated German translation 20100116 15:36:03-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.7.12 planned for Sunday or Monday | string/feature freeze active! | 59 bugs, 245 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20100116 15:36:47< Ivanovic> AI0867, boucman, Chusslove, elias, esr, grzywacz, loonycyborg, Noyga, shadowmaster, Soliton, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: are you fine with the next beta on sunday/monday? 20100116 15:41:10< Noyga> no problem :) 20100116 15:44:03< CIA-53> noyga * r40708 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth/fr.po): French translation update 20100116 15:44:42< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Yes. 20100116 15:55:34< CIA-53> noyga * r40709 /trunk/po/wesnoth-editor/fr.po: French translation update 20100116 16:03:10< AI0867> no problems here 20100116 16:03:50-!- teaser [n=tsr@h-37-106.A254.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 16:14:13< CIA-53> ivanovic * r40710 /trunk/po/wesnoth-manpages/fi.po: updated Finnish translation 20100116 16:46:18-!- Zarel [n=Zarel@warzone2100/developer/Zarel] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 16:49:09< CIA-53> noyga * r40711 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-lib/fr.po wesnoth-multiplayer/fr.po): French translation update 20100116 17:17:29-!- Skystriker [n=croseliu@pool-71-250-26-120.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 17:20:57< CIA-53> ivanovic * r40712 /trunk/po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): updated German translation 20100116 17:28:47-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20100116 17:29:28-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 17:53:40-!- crimson_penguin [n=ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 18:07:01-!- knotwork__ [n=markm@142.177.178.19] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20100116 18:26:57< boucman> Ivanovic: fine here.... is it a beta or RC ? 20100116 18:27:02-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 18:31:50-!- knotwork [n=markm@142.177.178.19] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 18:36:59< Ivanovic> still beta 20100116 18:37:08< boucman> k 20100116 18:49:53-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 19:15:02-!- MikeJB [n=Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #Wesnoth-dev 20100116 19:15:59-!- fendrin [n=fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 19:17:45-!- fkhodkov [n=fedor76@ppp-78-24-25-18-bras0.istra.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 19:18:06< fendrin> wesbot: seen yogiHH ? 20100116 19:18:07< wesbot> fendrin: The person with the nick YogiHH last spoke 19h 16m ago. 19h ago person left: 20100116 19:25:01 * fendrin Wonders who else beside YogiHH has knowledge about the savegame system? 20100116 19:40:18-!- Netsplit lindbohm.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Noyga, noy 20100116 19:44:53-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 19:46:08-!- Noyga [n=noyga@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 19:47:38-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20100116 19:47:53< fendrin> esr: Do you plan to change the name Ka'lian in LoW along with the change of wesmere? 20100116 19:48:44-!- Netsplit lindbohm.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Noyga 20100116 19:48:44< fendrin> where in the code are SUF implemented? 20100116 19:48:58-!- Noyga [n=noyga@AVelizy-151-1-22-44.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 20:08:04-!- stikonas [n=and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20100116 20:08:32-!- stikonas [n=and@bcm-131-111-247-5.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 20:10:40-!- elias [n=elias@allegro/developer/allefant] has quit ["Leaving"] 20100116 20:21:19< Ivanovic> zookeeper: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15128 20100116 20:23:16-!- Tallken [n=f2f93bf5@93.102.76.45.rev.optimus.pt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 20:28:13< fendrin> Ivanovic: That sounds like the duplicate unit id kollision bug. This is fixed in trunk. 20100116 20:28:29< Ivanovic> fendrin: sounds like it, i just want to be 100% sure 20100116 20:29:26< zookeeper> i'll handle it 20100116 20:30:47< CIA-53> caslav_ilic * r40713 /trunk/ (12 files in 7 dirs): Updated localized images for German. 20100116 20:33:53< Chusslove> I propose the following patch to wesnoth-optipng, to support processing selected files given on command line: 20100116 20:33:57< Chusslove> http://pastebin.com/m216bcd2 20100116 20:34:02< CIA-53> caslav_ilic * r40714 /branches/resources/image-localization/de/wesnoth.xcf: Updated source localized images for German. 20100116 20:37:05< Ivanovic> Chusslove: sounds fine to me 20100116 20:46:20-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 20:47:37-!- YogiHH [n=chatzill@d097175.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 20:47:52< YogiHH> hello 20100116 20:48:02< YogiHH> fendrin: you were looking for me? 20100116 20:50:33< CIA-53> jhinrichs * r40715 /trunk/src/game.cpp: Applying patch #1392 (Debug mode deactivation in multiplayer mode) 20100116 21:02:01< YogiHH> afk 20100116 21:12:42< CIA-53> caslav_ilic * r40716 /trunk/ (changelog utils/wesnoth-optipng): Optional processing of files given on command line, instead of all files in CWD. 20100116 21:15:13-!- AnMaster [n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20100116 21:19:17-!- deekay [n=dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 21:19:35< fendrin> YogiHH: Yes, remember the short tutorial about savegames you gave me a week ago? You asked if I have c++ objects or only wml config to make persistent. I have seen a posibility to get rid of the c++ objects, and have only wml lying around. What can you say me about this? 20100116 21:20:37-!- AnMaster [n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 21:33:07< fendrin> zookeeper: Please help me with the teleport thing. May you code the mage teleport thing in wml? 20100116 21:34:14< zookeeper> fendrin, i suppose, if i knew the teleport thing syntax 20100116 21:34:34-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [] 20100116 21:35:36< fendrin> [tunnel] [source] slf [/source] [target] slf [/target] [filter] suf [/filter] [/tunnel]. The tag is an action wml tag. 20100116 21:36:47< zookeeper> well, you can't implement teleport using that unless it'll work as an ability tag 20100116 21:37:17< YogiHH> back 20100116 21:37:36< fendrin> zookeeper: I thought you can bound events to units. 20100116 21:38:09< fendrin> YogiHH: Left a few sentences for you in the chat. 20100116 21:38:27< YogiHH> fendrin: with only WML around, you will need to put it into the game_state object, probably both into the snapshot and the starting_pos. 20100116 21:38:57< YogiHH> fendrin: are your teleporters information that is subject to change? 20100116 21:39:28< fendrin> YogiHH: Do I still need to implement a class that inherits from savegame_config ? 20100116 21:39:35< zookeeper> fendrin, yeah, but that's not perfect. not really good enough for mainline teleport, but of course i can write it for you for testing purposes or whatever... 20100116 21:39:48< YogiHH> fendrin: no, that would only be necessary for C++ objects 20100116 21:40:13< zookeeper> wait, umm...no, actually there's no way you could write it using action WML. 20100116 21:40:21< zookeeper> not without invalidating undo all over the place anyway 20100116 21:41:30< zookeeper> eh, give me a minute, i'll check something.. 20100116 21:41:33< fendrin> zookeeper: invalidating undo? You need to call the tunnel tag once in a prestart event. 20100116 21:42:51< zookeeper> then how do you make each unit only be able to teleport between their own villages? 20100116 21:43:02< zookeeper> you'd have to write one tunnel tag per each side 20100116 21:43:28< zookeeper> "side 1 can teleport between side 1 villages", "side 2 can teleport between side 2 villages", etc 20100116 21:43:30< fendrin> YogiHH: Encapsulating in a class that inherits from savegame_config seems to be the smarter way, right? 20100116 21:44:11-!- Espreon [n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 21:44:49< YogiHH> fendrin: savegame_config has the job of an interface, with its primary task generating the config WML for a savegame out of a C++ object. If you have the config already, there's not much sense to implement savegame_config. 20100116 21:45:37< fendrin> zookeeper: What about assigning the results of the [filter] to &unit? 20100116 21:45:48< Espreon> Who controls gettext.wesnoth.org? 20100116 21:46:32< zookeeper> fendrin, no idea what you mean 20100116 21:48:55< fendrin> zookeeper: The filter subtag in tunnel filters the units that are able to use the teleport feature. I can assign that to the wml variable $unit and it can be used in slf. 20100116 21:49:34-!- dtiger [n=dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-65-18.telecom.by] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20100116 21:50:00< fendrin> zookeeper: That way you could use side=$unit.side in the slf for the villages. And the SUF filters for all mages. 20100116 21:50:33< zookeeper> fendrin, right...sounds hacky. aren't you intending on making it work in an ability tag at all, or why do you want an event-driven method? 20100116 21:51:51< fendrin> zookeeper: The tag is to be used for every teleport situation possible. 20100116 21:57:06< zookeeper> fendrin, does this look right? http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m6bf43191 20100116 21:58:46< fendrin> zookeeper: Yes, looks right, where does it have to go inside a unit's description? 20100116 21:59:23< zookeeper> inside [unit_type] 20100116 22:00:19< fendrin> zookeeper: Isn't there a feature to bind events on the ability? 20100116 22:00:34< zookeeper> no 20100116 22:01:40< fendrin> zookeeper: doesn't the event need an id? 20100116 22:02:19< zookeeper> nope 20100116 22:02:49< fendrin> zookeeper: Okay, I will try to make the mage village teleportation work with this wml syntax. Thank you :-) 20100116 22:20:13-!- lukjad007 [n=lukjadOO@unaffiliated/lukjad007] has quit [Client Quit] 20100116 22:23:31-!- lukjad007 [n=lukjadOO@unaffiliated/lukjad007] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 22:31:57-!- shadowmaster_ [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 22:36:35-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 22:40:20-!- shadowmaster [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit ["foo quit message"] 20100116 22:40:30-!- Shadow_Master [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 22:40:50-!- Shadow_Master is now known as shadowmaster 20100116 22:41:18-!- shadowmaster_ is now known as shadowm_Laptop 20100116 22:41:21-!- shadowm_Laptop is now known as shadowm_laptop 20100116 22:45:05-!- shadowm_laptop [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20100116 22:53:06-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20100116 22:54:27-!- EdB [n=edb@tss37-1-89-84-18-220.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 22:54:41-!- shadowm_laptop [n=ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 23:03:37-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 23:06:18-!- Blueblaze [n=nick@adsl-99-158-47-180.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 23:14:53< CIA-53> ivanovic * r40717 /trunk/po/wesnoth-did/de.po: updated German translation 20100116 23:25:42-!- EdB [n=edb@tss37-1-89-84-18-220.dsl.club-internet.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20100116 23:27:08-!- mjs-de [n=mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20100116 23:29:15-!- noy_ [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 23:31:13-!- silidan [n=rainer@p57A50B8A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 23:32:11< silidan> hi, i am using debian sid atm, strange thing: i use gnome and open box, and the ui of wesnoth doesnt work... if i use metacity (which is kinda bugged atm for me) it works... any ideas what might go wrong? 20100116 23:32:32< loonycyborg> Which SDL version? 20100116 23:32:39< silidan> how can i find out? 20100116 23:33:11< loonycyborg> I don't remember the exact command. I'm not a debian user. 20100116 23:33:46< silidan> well i see a libsdldebian package with version 1.2.14-3 20100116 23:34:15< loonycyborg> silidan: https://gna.org/bugs/?14770 20100116 23:35:36< silidan> o, sad to hear that... 20100116 23:35:57< silidan> but thanks, now at least i know its not my fault... 20100116 23:36:14< Ivanovic> post a debian bug report stating that this libsdl version is broken / does not work nicely with all window managers 20100116 23:36:16< Ivanovic> ;) 20100116 23:37:43< shadowmaster> SDL 1.2.14 made it to Sid? :( 20100116 23:37:55< Ivanovic> looks like it 20100116 23:42:26< silidan> hm... is there a newer sdl version out? 20100116 23:42:32< Ivanovic> no 20100116 23:42:40< silidan> so i should use an older? 20100116 23:42:47< Ivanovic> you have to either downgrade to 1.2.13 or use fullscreen mode 20100116 23:43:02< silidan> how can i downgrade or where can i find info about it? 20100116 23:43:16< Ivanovic> no idea, i don't use debian 20100116 23:43:24< silidan> ok... what do you use? 20100116 23:43:31< Ivanovic> gentoo 20100116 23:43:50< silidan> o i see... you compile everything yourself :) 20100116 23:44:42< loonycyborg> No. Portage compiles everything for us :P 20100116 23:44:57< loonycyborg> You compile everything youself in LFS. 20100116 23:45:35< silidan> o well... but still your cpu has to do the work... 20100116 23:45:49< shadowmaster> yeah, and that's not good for laptops that tend to overheat with minor work like mine 20100116 23:46:11< shadowmaster> because a certain OEM thought it was a good idea to insert a desktop-class processor on it 20100116 23:46:16< loonycyborg> silidan: It's hard to find work for those cores otherwise :P 20100116 23:46:25< silidan> wow i cant seem to be able to join the debian channel... 20100116 23:46:38< silidan> indeed 20100116 23:46:38< shadowmaster> silidan: you''l need to register your nickname first 20100116 23:46:48< shadowmaster> see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup for details 20100116 23:47:02< silidan> dunno why but i visited debian channel several times.. only today i see i cant join them anymore... 20100116 23:47:14< shadowmaster> #debian and a few other channels have channel mode +R or +r set, quieting or banning (respectively) unregistered users to stop the current attacks on freenode 20100116 23:47:37< shadowmaster> (spam attacks, nothing serious, but a bunch of lemmings visit a certain advertised link and become spammers themselves) 20100116 23:48:10-!- Noyga [n=noyga@wesnoth/developer/noyga] has left #wesnoth-dev ["Quitte"] 20100116 23:48:51< silidan> o so this might change again? 20100116 23:49:02< Ivanovic> okay, sent sam another mail asking him to retry reproducing the libsdl clicking issue 20100116 23:49:16< shadowmaster> as long as you register your nickname with services and identify, you won't have problems joining affected channels, silidan 20100116 23:49:41< silidan> hm... who would gain something by attacking freenode? 20100116 23:49:58< shadowmaster> they are exploiting users' stupidity. 20100116 23:50:11< silidan> why? 20100116 23:50:25< shadowmaster> basically, the spam advertises a page which contains a javascript exploit that makes those who visit the page spam freenode via HTTP POST 20100116 23:50:25< Ivanovic> rough guess: "because they can" 20100116 23:50:26< silidan> its a known fact that ppl are stupid... no need to prove it... 20100116 23:51:00< shadowmaster> these morons need no reason to attack freenode; it's probably just "for the lulz" 20100116 23:51:18-!- noy [n=Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Connection timed out] 20100116 23:51:18-!- noy_ is now known as noy 20100116 23:51:25< silidan> well why dont they attack microsoft or the pentagon then? 20100116 23:51:35< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: How HTTP POST post can spam freenode? With some kind of web-chat gateway? 20100116 23:54:06< Espreon> silidan: They are merely doing things for the lulz. 20100116 23:54:12< Espreon> So, yeahz... 20100116 23:54:13< silidan> hm.. registering is not to my liking... i like it free and anonym... 20100116 23:54:39-!- Cuervo [n=brennan@71-217-76-93.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100116 23:54:41< esr> fendrin: No, I wasn't planning to change "Ka'lian". Unlike "Wesmere", it's a plausible Elvish name. 20100116 23:55:02< shadowmaster> silidan: nah, there's no anonymity here 20100116 23:55:18< loonycyborg> esr: How does one read those ' anyway? 20100116 23:55:23-!- Cuervo [n=brennan@71-217-76-93.tukw.qwest.net] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20100116 23:55:25< shadowmaster> we can see your IP; and your e-mail address would be hidden from non-staffers unless you made it manually visible anyway 20100116 23:55:26< silidan> so you know who i am where i live and what i wear? 20100116 23:55:49< shadowmaster> freenode doesn't ask any more details for registration than a permanent and valid e-mail address 20100116 23:55:59< CIA-53> ivanovic * r40718 /trunk/data/core/images/units/undead-skeletal/deathknight-lead-2.png: 20100116 23:55:59< CIA-53> ran utils/wesnoth-optipng 20100116 23:55:59< CIA-53> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size): 20100116 23:55:59< CIA-53> Original size: 3 KiB on 1 files 20100116 23:55:59< CIA-53> Optimized size: 1 KiB 20100116 23:56:00< CIA-53> Total saving: 1 KiB = 42% decrease 20100116 23:56:03< esr> loonycyborg: As glottal stops. You have them in Russian, I believe. 20100116 23:56:19< silidan> but to be honest im dumb, i still have no clue how to register... 20100116 23:57:38< silidan> wow its only debian... arch ubuntu and gentoo channels are open to me... 20100116 23:57:44< shadowmaster> silidan: eh? I told you how. 20100116 23:57:51< silidan> well i didnt get it 20100116 23:57:54< shadowmaster> see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 20100116 23:58:07< silidan> nice this is cryptic mordor speach i dont understand 20100116 23:58:21< silidan> ;) 20100116 23:58:26< shadowmaster> I can't know how you are able to JOIN a channel then 20100116 23:58:29< Ivanovic> uhm, this is english 20100116 23:59:43< silidan> damnit i cant speak english, nor do i understand it... its a curse... 20100116 23:59:49< silidan> we are all dooomed.... 20100116 23:59:49< stikonas> silidan: mordor speech is written in tengwar, not latin alphabet ;) --- Log closed Sun Jan 17 00:00:33 2010