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20100130 00:01:47< thespaceinvader> boucman: what was it you wanted to ask me?
20100130 00:02:17< boucman> just wanted to know how hard it would be for him to make the tiles tile...
20100130 00:02:22< boucman> but I also have another question
20100130 00:03:02< boucman> someone sent me a master-at-arms victory anim to commit, and i'm not sure if it has been validated for mainline by any artist...
20100130 00:03:44< thespaceinvader> i had a look at it, but i need to run it by jet before commit - i'd be incliined to put it in as an idle
20100130 00:03:54< thespaceinvader> and on terrain, i really have no idea
20100130 00:04:03< thespaceinvader> tiling terrains is deep magic ;)
20100130 00:04:36< boucman> ok
20100130 00:04:46< boucman> i'll give it some more thought tomorow
20100130 00:04:52< shadowmaster> s/deep magic/dark forbidden magic/
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20100130 00:11:41< boucman> hmm
20100130 00:11:57< boucman> maybe it's time for me to learn how the castle cutter works...
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20100130 00:17:56< CIA-58> crab * r40949 /trunk/ (18 files in 7 dirs): added gamestate_observer class, used it to simplify candidate actions interface and implementation - by making is_gamestate_changed flag managed externally, by rca stage
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20100130 04:27:59< kiba> wwwwwwhat zup?
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20100130 08:56:59< mordante> servus
20100130 08:57:07< CIA-58> mordante * r40950 /trunk/src/ai/gamestate_observer.cpp: Fix a compiler warning.
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20100130 11:12:37< Ivanovic> moin
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20100130 11:15:41< boucman> moin moin
20100130 11:15:53 * boucman is suffering under the hands of the castle cutter
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20100130 11:17:11< thespaceinvader> boucman: the victory anim you asked me about yesterday - good to go in, and could you please duplicate it as an idle as well?  thanks
20100130 11:17:19< thespaceinvader> the master at arms one that is
20100130 11:17:23< thespaceinvader> just for clarity
20100130 11:17:26< boucman> ok, will do
20100130 11:18:20< thespaceinvader> thankies
20100130 11:22:32< zookeeper> do victory anims block the interface or do they act like idle anims do?
20100130 11:24:26< zookeeper> also, do they play at the same time as the death anim or after it?
20100130 11:24:57< zookeeper> if they block and play after, then they might get pretty annoying
20100130 11:30:46< boucman> they block and play at the same time (clock synchronized)
20100130 11:31:13< boucman> however blocking is much less annoying in 1.8, since i don't block the whole gui, only game actions
20100130 11:31:55< Blarumyrran> Dialog blocking too?
20100130 11:32:03< boucman> dialog ?
20100130 11:32:09< boucman> you mean WML messages ?
20100130 11:32:28< Blarumyrran> Yeah
20100130 11:32:33< Blarumyrran> Well, iirc the menus were blocked when you see some character talking
20100130 11:33:23< boucman> that's still the case
20100130 11:33:23< Blarumyrran> Using 1.7.11, that is still so.
20100130 11:33:39< Blarumyrran> That's mighty annoying
20100130 11:35:13< Ivanovic> Blarumyrran: push esc and the dialogs are instantly gone!
20100130 11:36:27< Blarumyrran> Cool
20100130 11:36:38< Blarumyrran> But it seems to disable them for the whole scenario
20100130 11:36:40< Ivanovic> that is: they are gone as if you read them
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20100130 12:10:54< boucman> thespaceinvader: Major is online, if your reply fast to http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=406606#p406606 you might have your final frames today
20100130 12:34:39< Soliton> http://gna.org/bugs/?15228  close and point to the iphone port bug tracker or is there a reasonable chance any of us can do something about it?
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20100130 12:40:46< loonycyborg> Soliton: Probably point to iphone port tracker.
20100130 12:44:16< loonycyborg> Unless you think that making messages harder to dismiss is a good idea. I don't remember accidentally dismissing messages much often myself.
20100130 12:44:34< loonycyborg> Probably it's issue specific to iphone's controls.
20100130 12:44:51< Soliton> i think there already is some delay that prevents accidental dismissal.
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20100130 13:06:24< k23z__> how do I make a slime effect ?
20100130 13:06:26< k23z__> in sdl
20100130 13:06:32< k23z__> actually .. in general
20100130 13:08:52< boucman> i have no diea what you mean with slime
20100130 13:13:01< k23z__> pixel effect
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20100130 14:42:21< CIA-70> ivanovic * r40953 /trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): updated Italian translation
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20100130 15:59:37< silene> hi
20100130 16:00:27< mordante> hi silene 
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20100130 17:43:27< CIA-70> silene * r40954 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Caught other errors than just a missing type field when creating units.
20100130 17:43:34< CIA-70> silene * r40955 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Fixed comments.
20100130 17:43:38< CIA-70> silene * r40956 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Added interface for floating labels.
20100130 17:43:45< CIA-70> silene * r40957 /trunk/src/filesystem.cpp: Fixed lookup of binary files in user data.
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20100130 18:29:06< thespaceinvader> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=28661 anyone in the know available?
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20100130 20:11:31< bladelaw> hey
20100130 20:11:36< bladelaw> anyone here?
20100130 20:11:43< CIA-70> caslav_ilic * r40958 /trunk/ (21 files in 12 dirs): Updated localized images for Hungarian.
20100130 20:11:45< shadowmaster> yeah.
20100130 20:11:52< shadowmaster> if you need something, just say it.
20100130 20:12:08< bladelaw> I'm a composer
20100130 20:12:23< bladelaw> looking to contribute to the game
20100130 20:12:33< shadowmaster> check the Music forum, then. :)
20100130 20:12:54< bladelaw> yeah I've read it
20100130 20:13:40< bladelaw> do the music guys hang out in this chan?
20100130 20:14:00< shadowmaster> nah, they're always too busy to be on IRC.
20100130 20:14:17< bladelaw> ic
20100130 20:14:35< bladelaw> do you know who did the current sound effects?
20100130 20:14:41< loonycyborg> West once frequented here but not anymore.
20100130 20:15:15< bladelaw> or the main theme?
20100130 20:15:27< shadowmaster> the main theme was contributed by aleksi
20100130 20:15:38< shadowmaster> and the sound effects come from various people, including zookeeper 
20100130 20:18:01< GauHelldragon> :)
20100130 20:18:33< bladelaw> I'd like to submit some possible replacements for those
20100130 20:18:49< mordante> best post on the forum
20100130 20:19:46< shadowmaster> s/best/must/ ;)
20100130 20:20:57< mordante> now you make it look like bad English :-P
20100130 20:22:03< bladelaw> putting them up now
20100130 20:22:13< GauHelldragon> teh
20100130 20:22:14< mordante> nice 
20100130 20:22:17< GauHelldragon> i got an assertion failed
20100130 20:22:29< GauHelldragon> file src\sdl_utils.cpp line 1468
20100130 20:22:37< GauHelldragon> expression: dst_rect.y >= 0
20100130 20:22:59< shadowmaster> mordante: eh, as if bad nglish wasn't common here
20100130 20:23:04< shadowmaster> E!
20100130 20:23:52< mordante> nah, see never English worse here
20100130 20:24:00< mordante> ;-)
20100130 20:25:18< mordante> GauHelldragon, what were you doing?
20100130 20:25:26< GauHelldragon> observing
20100130 20:25:33< GauHelldragon> oh
20100130 20:25:42< GauHelldragon> it was at the multiplayer lobby when the assertion failed
20100130 20:26:46< mordante> that seems to happen every now and then, but busy rewriting a part of that code, which hopefully fixes that (and other) issues
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20100130 20:31:45< bladelaw> hmm
20100130 20:31:52< bladelaw> looks like the max file size for the forum in 2mb
20100130 20:31:56< bladelaw> is
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20100130 21:41:36< AI0867> esr: is there a way to prevent wmllint from converting what looks like old-style markup?
20100130 21:42:53< zookeeper> boucman, i think you don't want to try to use the chasm transition method for making any of those land<->water transitions, even if the tiles themselves are adaptations of the chasm tiles.
20100130 21:43:17< boucman> zookeeper: why not ?
20100130 21:45:16< zookeeper> boucman, because i'd expect it to easily explode into a more complicated mess
20100130 21:45:28< boucman> hmm
20100130 21:45:48< zookeeper> they're just more complicated, because there's all that layering stuff involved since the transition is drawn across the hex borders
20100130 21:45:49< boucman> i'm studying how it's working right now... i'll probably have a simple template for him to use
20100130 21:46:25< boucman> zookeeper: all borders are more or less that complicated, except sand and grass, but he's not ready to do these yet
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20100130 21:50:05< zookeeper> no doubt all of that can be done, i'm just saying what my hunch is ;)
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20100130 21:54:28< GauHelldragon> is there gonna be a way to turn off the naming of stuff in random maps
20100130 21:55:31< CIA-70> mordante * r40959 /trunk/changelog: Update changelog.
20100130 21:55:53< boucman> GauHelldragon: there was a bit of lua code to put in an event to do that that was posted recently IIRC
20100130 21:55:59< CIA-70> mcshark * r40960 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/: svn.ignore: Use wildcards for vcproj.*.user
20100130 21:56:15< GauHelldragon> oh
20100130 21:56:36< zookeeper> you could also insert an event into the random map generator which places an empty label on every hex ;)
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20100130 21:57:16< GauHelldragon> where is the random map generator
20100130 21:57:38< boucman> mapgen* IIRC
20100130 21:58:58< GauHelldragon> i mean what directory
20100130 21:59:30< boucman> src/
20100130 22:00:53< GauHelldragon> hum
20100130 22:02:30< GauHelldragon> i don't think i have the source :)
20100130 22:02:42< AI0867> mapgen and cavegen
20100130 22:05:36< zookeeper> not if he was referring to what i said
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20100130 22:23:22< shadowmaster> huh?
20100130 22:23:33< shadowmaster> you were quiting unregistered users?
20100130 22:24:33< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: some freenode setup thing
20100130 22:24:41< Ivanovic> [21:51:34] [Notice] -kloeri- [Global Notice] Hi all. As part of the migration to ircd-seven channel mode +R was replaced by channel mode +q $~a. Channel operators can use /mode ##channel -q $~a to let unidentified people talk again. Feel free to jump into #freenode if you should have any questions about this. Thank you for using freenode.
20100130 22:24:58< shadowmaster> yeah, I didn't notice +R was in effect here in the first place
20100130 22:25:25< Ivanovic> i think we have set it when the http spam wave happened
20100130 22:25:28< Ivanovic> not 100% sure, though
20100130 22:25:37< Ivanovic> beside this: the command should not hurt if things were not set...
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20100130 22:31:39< mordante> Ivanovic, does our gettext extract script understand #if 0 comments (and thus ignoring them) ?
20100130 22:32:09< Ivanovic> IIRC everything behind a # is directly ignored
20100130 22:32:11< Ivanovic> since those are comments
20100130 22:32:43< Ivanovic> that is: how can a #if be inside a translateable string?
20100130 22:32:44< mordante> I'm talking about the C++ side
20100130 22:32:47< Ivanovic> in wml that is
20100130 22:33:00< Ivanovic> the c++ side is not our doing, that is gettext binary work and supposed to "just work"
20100130 22:33:11< Ivanovic> as in all c++ comments should be ignored and the likes
20100130 22:33:26< shadowmaster> and in WML you have no way to say; it's perfectly possible to #define 0
20100130 22:33:33< shadowmaster> #define 1, #define 2, etc.
20100130 22:34:00< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: but #define 1 and the likes should not appear in anything the gettext script extracts unless the content creator wants this to be in a uservisible string
20100130 22:34:02< Ivanovic> ;)
20100130 22:34:21< shadowmaster> the lack of a WML #if preprocessor statement that evaluated arguments has bothered me since day 0
20100130 22:34:29< shadowmaster> day 0+0.9.6
20100130 22:34:31< Ivanovic> since you need an some form of _" to have the string in the po file
20100130 22:35:02< Chusslove> xgettext does not consider #if 0.
20100130 22:35:17< Chusslove> I.e. it extracts strings under it.
20100130 22:35:31< mordante> thanks Chusslove that was the answer I was waiting for... (not hoping of course ;-) )
20100130 22:36:07< Chusslove> I've asked the Gettext maintainer once about it, turns out it would not be easy to support this.
20100130 22:36:30< Chusslove> (e.g. then xgettext would also need to know about #if 1 ... #else...)
20100130 22:38:19< mordante> I can see the problems to support it, but I foresee more troubles with Ivanovic when I commit my current code ;-)
20100130 22:38:36< mordante> (and not just because it's WIP)
20100130 22:38:36< Ivanovic> :)
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20100130 22:54:26< Jozrael> Assertion failed after exiting a game as an observer on the dev server after both players had left
20100130 22:54:38< Jozrael> Closed out too quick; sorry ><
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20100130 23:08:47< esr> AI0867: Can you be more specific?
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20100130 23:18:01< AI0867> esr: a string like _ "*growl*" is converted to _ "<span size='large'>growl*</span>"
20100130 23:18:39< esr> And you want to suppress this?  Hold on...
20100130 23:20:02< esr> Give the line a ciomment that looks like this: "# wmllint: ignore"
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20100130 23:27:33< CIA-70> zookeeper * r40961 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/9_Caverns_of_Flame.cfg: Fixed duplicate unit id's.
20100130 23:32:26< CIA-70> zookeeper * r40962 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/9_Caverns_of_Flame.cfg: Deactivated the possibility of the player losing due to an elf "escaping" the cave, because there's no way for the player to prevent that.
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20100130 23:35:33< boucman> anybody knows how the cutter/exploder tools work ?
20100130 23:38:25< boucman> i nailed down the base frames but the water<->water transitions are tricky...
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20100130 23:44:53< mordante> I'm off night
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20100130 23:46:02< Jozrael> g'nite mordante
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