--- Log opened Sun Jan 03 00:00:02 2010
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20100103 00:21:59< Zen_Clark> Does the Windows version of Wesnoth add anything to the registries?
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20100103 00:23:51< shadowmaster> no.
20100103 00:24:11< Tass`> I can't click any buttons... if I start a new X and disable kdeinit, it works. is there another way?
20100103 00:24:13< shadowmaster> the installer will add an entry for the Add/Remove programs control panel, but that's all
20100103 00:24:21< shadowmaster> Tass`: what version of SDL are you running?
20100103 00:24:39< Tass`> querying....
20100103 00:24:49< Zen_Clark> shadowmaster: Can the game be ran off of a USB drive?
20100103 00:24:51< Tass`> Version        : 1.2.14-1
20100103 00:25:56< shadowmaster> Zen_Clark: I think so, yes.
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20100103 00:26:21< Zen_Clark> Good.
20100103 00:26:23< shadowmaster> Tass`: is there any possibility you can try with a earlier version? 1.2.14 is known to be causing problems with Wesnoth
20100103 00:26:53< Tass`> shadowmaster, which one?
20100103 00:26:59< Tass`> I need to recompile a bunch
20100103 00:27:04< shadowmaster> SDL 1.2.13 works for me
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20100103 00:27:42< shadowmaster> I think it should be binary-compatible with SDL 1.2.14
20100103 00:27:43< Tass`> is it possible to compile that statically to wesnoth?
20100103 00:28:34< shadowmaster> not sure.
20100103 00:28:59< Tass`> is a bugfix in range?
20100103 00:29:10< shadowmaster> at least the scons build recipe accepts  a sdldir=/path/to/sdldir parameter
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20100103 00:29:52< shadowmaster> there has been some discussion in the dev ML with the SDL author regarding the bug
20100103 00:30:09< Tass`> and why does it need ruby by now? ruby API?
20100103 00:30:19< shadowmaster> you mean lua?
20100103 00:31:31< Tass`> Depends On     : lua  pango  sdl_ttf  sdl_net  sdl_mixer  sdl_image  boost  fribidi  
20100103 00:31:32< Tass`>                  ruby  dbus-core  
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20100103 00:32:19< shadowmaster> okay, no idea why your distribution requires ruby. We don't use ruby in mainline
20100103 00:32:25< Tass`> oke
20100103 00:34:02< Tass`> shadowmaster, I only see configure and autogen here
20100103 00:34:42< shadowmaster> um, there's a scons recipe in mainline that should work provided you install the scons package
20100103 00:35:14< Tass`> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/kCa1JkSrtMZi0VYNSPt2/
20100103 00:35:34< Tass`> that's the buildfile I've got. It's pretty straigh-forward, don't worry :-)
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20100103 00:36:19< shadowmaster> uh. Yeah, some distributions still use autotools to build wesnoth.
20100103 00:36:42< Tass`> what's the correct way?
20100103 00:37:01< shadowmaster> there's no correct way at the moment; each tool has its own advantages and disadvantages for devs and users
20100103 00:37:53< Tass`> wesnoth-devel E: Dependency detected and not included (ruby) from files ['usr/share/wesnoth-devel/data/tools/terrain2wiki.rb']
20100103 00:37:57< Tass`> that's why there's ruby in the deps
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20100103 00:38:28< shadowmaster> ah. not something that players should use :)
20100103 00:38:46< Tass`> shadowmaster, so to get to the point, how to tell autogen where to find the sdl stuff?
20100103 00:41:44< shadowmaster> maybe by running configure with LDFLAGS=-L/path/to/SDL/libraries CXXFLAGS=-I/path/to/SDL/includes
20100103 00:42:10< shadowmaster> although I'd just try replacing the system version of SDL with 1.2.13 and see what breaks... ,)
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20100103 00:43:03< Tass`> Required By    : agg  avidemux  boswars  bzflag  devil  ffmpeg  fs2_open-svn  
20100103 00:43:05< Tass`>                  gnash-common  mjpegtools  mplayer  pinball  sdl_gfx  sdl_image  
20100103 00:43:07< Tass`>                  sdl_mixer  sdl_net  sdl_pango  sdl_sound  sdl_ttf  smpeg  teeworlds
20100103 00:43:11< Tass`> ... a lot.
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20100103 03:03:12< Tass`> is there a wesnoth edition for android? :-)
20100103 03:03:22< shadowmaster> no
20100103 03:03:43< Tass`> :-(
20100103 03:04:00< Tass`> is there a wiki for the wesnoth units online?
20100103 03:04:19< shadowmaster> units.wesnoth.org
20100103 03:04:32< Tass`> thanks
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20100103 03:12:20< Tass`> btw the new drakes look awesome
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20100103 07:28:23< TaylorSwift> Whoops, I just downloaded the source instead of the binary <_<
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20100103 08:01:54< Appleman1234> ban happy game hosts I never thought i would see the day ....
20100103 08:02:06< Appleman1234> five years of playing ...
20100103 08:02:12< Appleman1234> wow
20100103 08:14:31< TaylorSwift> ?
20100103 08:15:44< Soul_keeper> http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1080/batman.jpg  <-- lol batmobile ati card
20100103 08:16:02< TaylorSwift> XD
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20100103 10:36:52< Soliton> Appleman1234: yeah, there are a couple of those guys unfortunately. was it abusive?
20100103 10:37:24< Soliton> Marechal seems pretty ban happy, i haven't investigated yet though.
20100103 10:38:16< Appleman1234> Marechal was the person in fact
20100103 10:38:31< Soliton> it's why i'm mentioning it. ;-)
20100103 10:41:35< Appleman1234> it wasn't abusive, he requested no newbies and having played for 4 to 5 years of wesnoth, I thought I met that requirement, he requested I support him with two of my units by placing them in bad defense and attacking the enemy, I told him that would cause me to lose my position, he said my position was bad anyways and that I didn't have any adepts, and then I replied but that is no thanks to you , and he banned me, s
20100103 10:41:35< Appleman1234> o i don't think it is abusive, but a kick or warning would have been nice 
20100103 10:42:50< Appleman1234> so i don't*
20100103 10:42:59< Appleman1234> nice / nicer
20100103 10:43:40< Soliton> ok. doesn't sound particularly nice certainly.
20100103 10:45:37< Appleman1234> out of curiosity does wesnothd have statistics on that ?
20100103 10:46:02< Appleman1234> it would be interesting to write something that monitored lobby behaviour and what not ...
20100103 10:46:48< Soliton> yeah, interesting stuff like that is dumped to an irc channel.
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20100103 11:10:47< Ivanovic> moin
20100103 11:11:18< Kenpachi_> o/
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20100103 13:45:13< Bactrian> Love the undead chocobo in the survival fight
20100103 13:46:12< Tass`> CHAAAARGE!
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20100103 14:45:29< ^myokidzu-it> hi
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20100103 14:46:21< ^myokidzu-it> volete giocare con la mia mappa su wesnoth
20100103 14:46:43< ^myokidzu-it> sono zenhoob-it
20100103 14:47:33< lizard_r> ^myokidzu-it, you might have a better change of beeing understoof if you chat in english ;-)
20100103 14:48:26< ^myokidzu-it> who want to play some game?
20100103 14:48:46 * lizard_r is bussy, sorry
20100103 14:48:55< ^myokidzu-it> ok ;-)
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20100103 18:53:32< knopf> hi. my brother is running wesnoth 1.6.5 on windows and it's painfully slow. how come? is there a known problem? 
20100103 18:56:37< knopf> painfully slow in MP. It takes forever to load and sync
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20100103 19:47:42< knopf> 1.7 beta is better... so don't worry
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20100103 20:39:01< Soul_keeper> hmmm
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20100103 20:39:07< Soul_keeper> PeterFA !
20100103 20:39:18< Soul_keeper> you play wesnoth ?
20100103 20:39:30< PeterFA> Soul_keeper: yeah, of course.
20100103 20:39:32< PeterFA> It's fun.
20100103 20:39:37< Soul_keeper> you make scenarios ?
20100103 20:40:14< Soul_keeper> I wrote a program that converts images into wesnoth maps
20100103 20:40:31< Soul_keeper> i'm too lazy to add terrain tho
20100103 20:41:03< Soul_keeper> PeterFA, we're still buddies right ?
20100103 20:41:19< PeterFA> Soul_keeper: you've got emotional problems. You need to learn how to be civil, dude.
20100103 20:41:27< Soul_keeper> nah
20100103 20:41:55< Soul_keeper> it's all about interpretation
20100103 20:42:25< Soul_keeper> you wanna work together on a scenario ?
20100103 20:42:34< PeterFA> Soul_keeper: thanks, but I'll pass.
20100103 20:42:40< Soul_keeper> i've already wrote like 10 of them
20100103 20:43:02< Soul_keeper> wipe the slate clean, no need to harbor resentment against random people on irc
20100103 20:43:10< PeterFA> Soul_keeper: dude, you cut people down.
20100103 20:43:17< Soul_keeper> nah
20100103 20:43:27< Soul_keeper> you're thinking of some other guy
20100103 20:43:27< PeterFA> Soul_keeper: yeah, but I can harbor an ignore list and be happy, yeah?
20100103 20:43:48< Soul_keeper> your loss not mine, i'm just trying to get along with people
20100103 20:44:24< Soul_keeper> was gonna ask you about your year and what you've been upto etc.
20100103 20:45:10< PeterFA> Soul_keeper: that would be a first, for you to try and get along.
20100103 20:45:23< Soul_keeper> you havn't made much effort yourself
20100103 20:45:34< PeterFA> Didn't your parents teach you how to treat people?
20100103 20:45:39< Soul_keeper> no
20100103 20:45:45< Soul_keeper> did yours ?
20100103 20:46:00< PeterFA> Soul_keeper: somewhat. I learned on my own, however.
20100103 20:46:25< Soul_keeper> so are we gonna get along or do you need to return more favors ?
20100103 20:46:51< Soul_keeper> life is hard enough as it is, no need to fight with people on irc
20100103 20:47:10< PeterFA> Soul_keeper: so it seems better that we just go our own ways, yeah?
20100103 20:47:28< Soul_keeper> why not just work on being a better person instead ?
20100103 20:47:51< Soul_keeper> that's what I do
20100103 20:48:30< Soul_keeper> we havn't even spoken in over a year
20100103 20:49:14< PeterFA> Soul_keeper: that's what I thought last time I started talking to you. Yet, you turned out to be no different than the time before then.
20100103 20:49:35< Soul_keeper> take it easy guy
20100103 20:49:45< Soul_keeper> who else are you gonna talk to ?
20100103 20:50:06< Soul_keeper> i'm making an effort here
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20100103 20:50:20< SekoIdiootti> tsi: but what about deformed, retarded and bizarre offsprings? I mean the dwarves and humans breeding thing.
20100103 20:50:29< SekoIdiootti> (I'm joking ofc)
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20100103 21:00:28< Badger> argh - has anyone ever had the issue that the master won't hand over the server list? And even when it does, the client disconnects right in the middle of joining a server.
20100103 21:00:37< Badger> This makes no sense.
20100103 21:00:49< shadowmaster> uh, master?
20100103 21:01:01< shadowmaster> (no pun intended, honest)
20100103 21:01:03< Badger> offical server
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20100103 21:01:14< shadowmaster> you mean the game list, not server list, I guess
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20100103 21:01:51< PeterFA> Who put the +b on Soul_keeper?
20100103 21:02:10< Badger> yes. I am probably in the wrong terminology zone here.
20100103 21:02:10 * Soliton 
20100103 21:02:33< PeterFA> Soliton: was it you?
20100103 21:02:37< Soliton> sounds like you have a bad connection to the server.
20100103 21:03:21< moraes_> PeterFA, that was weird
20100103 21:03:43< Badger> Hmm.
20100103 21:03:52< PeterFA> moraes_: ?
20100103 21:03:55< Badger> does anyone have its ip/url?
20100103 21:04:00< moraes_> the whole conversation :P
20100103 21:04:36< Soliton> Badger: host wesnoth.org?
20100103 21:04:49< Badger> Oh, heh
20100103 21:04:53< PeterFA> moraes_: what was weird about it?
20100103 21:05:17< Badger> Well that's weird. I have no trouble getting the website or anything.
20100103 21:05:53< moraes_> PeterFA, i don't know any of you, so from an outside view it sounded like you were being bullied / annoyed. :)
20100103 21:06:12< SekoIdiootti> :)?
20100103 21:06:26< Soliton> Badger: you can connect to the addon server and download something as well?
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20100103 21:06:55< PeterFA> moraes_: oh, yeah. Not sure what was happening.
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20100103 21:07:19< Soul_keeper> :/
20100103 21:07:46< Badger> At a rate of about 1kb/s.
20100103 21:07:54< Badger> No wait, less.
20100103 21:08:10< Soliton> well, that doesn't sound too good.
20100103 21:08:11< Badger> It stops and starts, a couple kb at a time
20100103 21:08:47< Soliton> you could also check a traceroute run to wesnoth.org.
20100103 21:08:48< Soul_keeper> I apologize for the off-topic conversation, I didn't think anyone would mind
20100103 21:09:36< Soul_keeper> PeterFA, you got 1.6.5 installed ?  wanna check out a scenario ?
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20100103 21:11:50< Badger> It traceroutes okay as well. Seems to be the client's problem.
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