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20100127 00:38:56< Kalir> TaylorSwift: helleoooooooh
20100127 00:39:01< TaylorSwift> Hi
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20100127 01:27:00< asn> Ehm, totally off topic, but did Wesnoth get in the SoC '09?
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20100127 01:28:24< shadowmaster> asn: yes, it did.
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20100127 01:28:49< shadowmaster> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26955
20100127 01:30:23< asn> thx for the link shadowmaster
20100127 01:30:56< asn> Also, someone should update - even tho minor - the link to WesnothPhilosophy in the FPI forum thread.
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20100127 01:48:27< shadowmaster> asn: what's wrong with that link?
20100127 01:53:39< asn> 404s
20100127 01:54:07< asn> It points to: http://wesnoth.slack.it/?WesnothPhilosophy
20100127 01:54:15< asn> Aw there is another one on the top
20100127 01:54:30< asn> I'm speaking about the one in the explanation of point 21.
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20100127 01:57:12< shadowmaster> fixed, thanks
20100127 02:01:14< asn> (these last 3 days I've been spending TOO many hours playing multiplayer Wesnoth so I felt like getting myself to be familiar with the game (reading forums, etc.) :3 )\
20100127 02:07:30< VurtualRuler98> Fun fact
20100127 02:07:47< VurtualRuler98> Being an epic warlord, taking many keeps and charging with a constantly maintained army is very not easy.
20100127 02:16:42< kiba> asn: you might want to read http://libregamewiki.org/Battle_for_Wesnoth
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20100127 10:14:19< Ivanovic> moin
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20100127 11:51:11< GauHelldragon> what is that wiggly thing saurian flankers eat
20100127 11:52:29< Ivanovic> some people call this "fish"
20100127 11:52:48< Ivanovic> and yeah, they do catch the fish in water areas with their spear
20100127 11:52:49< Ivanovic> ;)
20100127 11:54:16< zookeeper> it's a worm
20100127 11:54:41< zookeeper> or something like that
20100127 11:55:34< Ivanovic> ah, right
20100127 11:55:54< Ivanovic> though it could also be a wesnothian eel
20100127 11:55:55< Ivanovic> ;)
20100127 11:56:05< Ivanovic> (wesnothian since it is a little pink...)
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20100127 12:18:08< GauHelldragon> oh i thought it was a snake
20100127 12:18:12< GauHelldragon> cuz of it's size
20100127 12:18:22< GauHelldragon> a pink fleshy snake
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20100127 13:41:46< GauHelldragon> are there any multiplayer campaigns?
20100127 13:42:49< GauHelldragon> included
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20100127 13:51:15< GauHelldragon> guess so
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20100127 17:44:59< Skystriker> Should I continually re-edit my post in Coder's Corner as I get more info from you guys here on IRC, or is it ok to multiple-post in a CC thread?
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20100127 20:56:35< GauHelldragon> god damn elves
20100127 20:56:36< GauHelldragon> OP!!!
20100127 20:56:57< VurtualRuler98> Which version?
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20100127 20:58:30< GauHelldragon> the latest stable
20100127 20:59:16< GauHelldragon> they are unstoppable
20100127 20:59:32< VurtualRuler98> What campaign/mp map or whatever?
20100127 20:59:43< GauHelldragon> a random one
20100127 20:59:53< VurtualRuler98> Did they get the high ground?
20100127 21:00:02< GauHelldragon> if by high you mean lots of damn forests
20100127 21:00:14< VurtualRuler98> Try a not-random one?
20100127 21:00:20< GauHelldragon> well
20100127 21:00:24< GauHelldragon> i was observing a match
20100127 21:00:30< GauHelldragon> and one of the players left half way
20100127 21:00:34< GauHelldragon> so i jumped in
20100127 21:00:55< Skystriker> GauHelldragon: to us, a 'random' map has a special meaning in that the game randomly generated it
20100127 21:01:07< Skystriker> Not that it was a human-created map that you happened to end up in
20100127 21:01:14< GauHelldragon> that is why i said random map
20100127 21:01:18< GauHelldragon> because i meant a random map
20100127 21:01:26< Skystriker> So the computer randomly generated it?
20100127 21:01:29< GauHelldragon> yes.
20100127 21:01:31< Skystriker> Yes
20100127 21:01:34< Skystriker> Those are horrifically balanced
20100127 21:01:40< Skystriker> Sorry that you had to play one ;P
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20100127 21:01:53< GauHelldragon> shrug
20100127 21:02:11< GauHelldragon> they still offer some advantages
20100127 21:02:14< Sacho> Hills + northerners > elves ;9
20100127 21:02:27< GauHelldragon> for one thing you can tailor em to any number of players and any team configuration
20100127 21:02:45< GauHelldragon> and secondly you actually get to explore and stuff :)
20100127 21:02:52< Sacho> But that's why you have a good assortment of player maps
20100127 21:02:53< GauHelldragon> which can be a fun part of the game
20100127 21:03:08< GauHelldragon> i suppose, i don't have any beyond the ones that came with
20100127 21:03:16< GauHelldragon> which are all symetrical and team based
20100127 21:03:37< GauHelldragon> good for balance though i suppose
20100127 21:04:03< Skystriker> Aye
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20100127 21:04:14< Skystriker> There's a reason random maps are still in the game; they do offer a different type of value
20100127 21:04:32< Skystriker> If you're looking for balanced play though, they're pretty much your worst choice.
20100127 21:04:32< GauHelldragon> D:
20100127 21:04:47< Skystriker> So it's up to what is more important to you
20100127 21:04:50< GauHelldragon> i don't care about balance, i play with friends
20100127 21:04:57< Sacho> Don't drakes stomp big maps anyhow?
20100127 21:05:07< Skystriker> They're pretty strong, yea
20100127 21:05:20< GauHelldragon> was a small map, and like i said
20100127 21:05:26< GauHelldragon> i joined in the middle of a fight 
20100127 21:05:39< Skystriker> Okay so let me ask this
20100127 21:05:40< Sacho> what race were you?
20100127 21:05:44< GauHelldragon> drakes
20100127 21:05:50< Sacho> oh, oops :)
20100127 21:05:53< Skystriker> Do you want something changed or done?
20100127 21:06:00< GauHelldragon> nope
20100127 21:06:04< Skystriker> Okiez, then nvm :)
20100127 21:06:13< GauHelldragon> just the deletion of the elf race
20100127 21:06:17< GauHelldragon> :V
20100127 21:06:18< Sacho> hrm, drakes blade resistance can't be good for elves..
20100127 21:06:19< Skystriker> lol
20100127 21:06:28< Skystriker> Generally when a player starts with 'omg so OP', the insinuation is that they want something changed ;p
20100127 21:06:32< GauHelldragon> sacho yeah but they all have bows
20100127 21:06:33< Skystriker> o_O sacho
20100127 21:06:37< Skystriker> How about pierce, lol
20100127 21:06:55< Sacho> happy clasher meets archer, threehots.
20100127 21:06:55< GauHelldragon> Skystriker: heh yeah i was joking a bit actually :)
20100127 21:06:58< Sacho> threeshots*
20100127 21:07:01< Skystriker> Gotcha
20100127 21:07:08< Skystriker> Was there a ton of forest on the map?
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20100127 21:07:28< Sacho> Do you have a replay?
20100127 21:07:37< GauHelldragon> idk if there was a ton but there certainly was forest in the area i was fighting
20100127 21:07:40< Skystriker> Regardless of map balance, we might be able to give you tips to help you out
20100127 21:07:48< GauHelldragon> uh hm
20100127 21:07:49< GauHelldragon> lemme look
20100127 21:07:57< Skystriker> If there's lots of contiguous forest I'd recommend trying to focus on another area of the map
20100127 21:08:37< VurtualRuler98> Here's a suggestion: Don't be like that one guy I beat years ago, and let yourself be swarmed by nothing but spearmen, and especially don't throw your leader out there.
20100127 21:08:57< GauHelldragon> my leader was a drake flare
20100127 21:09:06< GauHelldragon> so i did end up using him for leadership a bit :)
20100127 21:09:18< Sacho> flare's great.
20100127 21:09:36< Sacho> by the time you break through the battle line, you don't have enough units to attack it.
20100127 21:09:42< Sacho> and it can deal significant return dmg, so you usually don'
20100127 21:09:44< Sacho> 't even bother.
20100127 21:10:58< GauHelldragon> ok uh
20100127 21:11:03< GauHelldragon> how do i find replays
20100127 21:11:14< noy> in the MP subforum
20100127 21:11:18< noy> there are 1v1 replays
20100127 21:11:21< GauHelldragon> no i mean replays of my games
20100127 21:12:06< noy> its in the archive
20100127 21:12:25< GauHelldragon> o_o?
20100127 21:12:35< Skystriker> Gau, it depends if you automatically save them in your preferences.
20100127 21:12:39< GauHelldragon> i think i do
20100127 21:12:48< Skystriker> On windows, it's in my documents/my games/wesnoth 1.x/saves
20100127 21:12:55< noy> wesnoth.org/replays
20100127 21:13:32< GauHelldragon> i got a random_map-Auto-Save18.gz
20100127 21:14:53< Skystriker> well, you could load that and save a replay from it
20100127 21:14:54< GauHelldragon> oh
20100127 21:14:54< GauHelldragon> yeah
20100127 21:14:56< GauHelldragon> here you go
20100127 21:15:03< GauHelldragon> http://replays.wesnoth.org/1.6/20100127/Random_map_Turn_23_(4343).gz
20100127 21:15:58< GauHelldragon> how do you view a replay
20100127 21:16:13< GauHelldragon> oh i see, nevermind
20100127 21:16:21< GauHelldragon> checkbox
20100127 21:17:18< GauHelldragon> I'm Gau in game btw
20100127 21:17:26< GauHelldragon> i don't show up until turn 5 or 6
20100127 21:17:39< GauHelldragon> and i probably don't actually join the game until like turn 7 or 8
20100127 21:20:30< Sacho> not that small a map:P
20100127 21:21:36< Sacho> 5 man ffa, tough
20100127 21:23:05< Skystriker> lol
20100127 21:24:52< Sacho> oh, didn't notice the low exp setting too.
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20100127 21:29:03< Sacho> heh, turn 3, guy suicides his scouts..
20100127 21:29:19< Sacho> turn 4, suicides flare :P
20100127 21:29:39< GauHelldragon> yea i don't join until turn 10 it seems
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20100127 21:30:43< GauHelldragon> i think i did ok, all things considered!
20100127 21:31:25< Sacho> yeah, 4 horsemen for one guardsman
20100127 21:35:22< Sacho> well so far I don't see elves being your problem
20100127 21:35:34< Sacho> more like "lots of levelled units vs my lack of such"
20100127 21:35:55< GauHelldragon> heh
20100127 21:36:02< GauHelldragon> indeed
20100127 21:39:02< GauHelldragon> on 16 i make a big mistake
20100127 21:39:10< GauHelldragon> i should have put my leader behind my two woundeded guys i think
20100127 21:39:33< GauHelldragon> so they could at least have leadership for their counter attacks
20100127 21:39:55< Sacho> elves player left?
20100127 21:39:57< Sacho> at 12
20100127 21:40:39< GauHelldragon> yeah it switched over to AI before i got control
20100127 21:41:23< GauHelldragon> yeah and then the AI just takes over the whole map it is kind of sad
20100127 21:42:38< Sacho> 50 income to your 29
20100127 21:42:47< Sacho> the huge income per village did not play to your favor :)
20100127 21:43:07< GauHelldragon> i played for so few turns i doubt income made much of a difference
20100127 21:43:42< Sacho> that and the low exp limit which makes the game way too random
20100127 21:43:46< Sacho> lucky shot == lvl up :|
20100127 21:45:00< Skystriker> I am not a fan of low XP games for that reason
20100127 21:45:08< Skystriker> I'm comfortable with the current influence of the RNG on games
20100127 21:45:21< Skystriker> It feels like a skill both anticipating possible outcomes and dealing with what happens
20100127 21:45:38< Skystriker> With low XP...sometimes (often) the RNG does really just decide games :P
20100127 21:47:27< GauHelldragon> mmm
20100127 21:53:39< GauHelldragon> how come even when i'm observing the status screen only shows me one team
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20100127 23:42:04< GauHelldragon> ah
20100127 23:42:10< GauHelldragon> saurians like sand
20100127 23:42:34< GauHelldragon> nagas too ( but not as much )
20100127 23:43:34< GauHelldragon> are wose the only unit with 2 death animations
20100127 23:44:58< Jozrael> Some units have different death animations depending on the type of attack that killed them.
20100127 23:45:02< Jozrael> I think skeletons are another
20100127 23:45:07< Jozrael> And some have easter egg animations
20100127 23:45:14< Jozrael> That appear very rarely, decided randomly
20100127 23:45:22< Jozrael> (And may have other criteria, like the weapon dmg)
20100127 23:45:40< Blarumyrran> Like ulfs?
20100127 23:46:12< Jozrael> That's one example
20100127 23:46:18< Jozrael> But not rly a death animation
20100127 23:46:28< Jozrael> I think there are easter egg -death- animations
20100127 23:46:54< Blarumyrran> Hm, such as?
20100127 23:47:00< Jozrael> Idk
20100127 23:47:02< Jozrael> ;o
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