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20100204 07:52:26< mordocai> I don't know if this is a bug or not, but in the development branch if I try to compile without root priv it says that it can't find C library m, C function round(), and C function sendfile()... running with sudo works... i'm using fedora 12
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20100204 08:13:14< mordocai> Oh, apologies. I'm also using scons.
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20100204 10:21:19< Ivanovic> moin
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20100204 11:01:30< mordante> servus
20100204 11:03:11< Ivanovic> mordante: do you already have some holidays or is it already your lunchbreak?
20100204 11:03:48< mordante> Ivanovic, holidays and testing xchat on my laptop
20100204 11:03:54< Ivanovic> ah, okay
20100204 11:04:11< Ivanovic> i am confident that konversation on my laptop will just work like it always has
20100204 11:04:12< Ivanovic> ;)
20100204 11:04:31< Ivanovic> currently running one last sys update
20100204 11:05:51< mordante> I never used xchat on this machine so wanted to make sure copying the settings works properly ;-)
20100204 11:05:57< Ivanovic> :)
20100204 11:06:27< mordante> and of course it works, only need to adjust for the small screen
20100204 11:09:35< mordante> brb on a normal screen
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20100204 11:10:53< mordante> much better again :-)
20100204 11:10:54< Ivanovic> mordante: if you think that you won't have time for some work on the treewidget and the likes at fosdem (due to limited debug capacities) what about working on the po4a integration in cmake?
20100204 11:10:56< Ivanovic> ;)
20100204 11:11:17< Ivanovic> should be done in a rather short time (and i can finally drop autotools completely)
20100204 11:11:20< fendrin> esr: yes, that is bug https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15204.
20100204 11:11:43< mordante> Ivanovic, and how much CPU power does that require?
20100204 11:11:57< Ivanovic> mordante: you can test with just two translations, then not much is needed
20100204 11:12:12< Ivanovic> one that is not complete enough for generation, one that is
20100204 11:12:34< Ivanovic> should be doable without a real problem on your laptop, too
20100204 11:16:15< mordante> maybe still fear it will be somewhat slow
20100204 11:16:46< mordante> can you test with this patch http://paste.debian.net/58666/ to see whether it works better, I still have an older asciidoc version here
20100204 11:28:54< Ivanovic> give me about an hour to finally wake up, then i can test
20100204 11:29:46< mordante> ok
20100204 11:52:17< Ivanovic> after the patch is applied and cmake is rerun, what should the expected new commands be and where to run them?
20100204 11:52:35< Ivanovic> from the svn checkout root or from the builddir?
20100204 11:53:08< Ivanovic> one question: why this change:
20100204 11:53:13< Ivanovic> -[po4a_alias:wman] man opt:"-k 80 -L utf8" 
20100204 11:53:14< Ivanovic> +[po4a_alias:wman] man opt:"-k 70 -L utf8" 
20100204 11:53:54< mordante> that last change isn't required but I used it from testing
20100204 11:54:34< mordante> the make target is po4a-update2
20100204 11:59:11< Ivanovic> po4a-update [wesnoth-manual-]: Updated po4a po file.
20100204 11:59:20< Ivanovic> it seems to not see the languages
20100204 11:59:50< Ivanovic> and please do not forget to include an rm on the .xml files before generating html files from all the existing xml files
20100204 12:02:45< Ivanovic> complete output: http://pastebin.com/m638610e9
20100204 12:05:23< Ivanovic> ugh, really bad!
20100204 12:06:27< mordante> what's really bad?
20100204 12:06:42< Ivanovic> i just ran "rm doc/manual/*ml" (to get rid of the xml files (which should all be generated!) and of the html files to see if something would be generated), the result being this: http://pastebin.com/m87dc1db
20100204 12:07:04< Ivanovic> in theory these should be the steps:
20100204 12:07:07< Ivanovic> for the manpages:
20100204 12:07:34< Ivanovic> remove doc/man/*/*.6 (those should be all translated manpages)
20100204 12:07:58< Ivanovic> update pot file with the data in doc/man/*.6
20100204 12:08:09< Ivanovic> update po files against the new pot file
20100204 12:08:32< Ivanovic> generate doc/man/*/.6 for those langs that are (still) complete enough
20100204 12:08:48< Ivanovic> for the manual (very similar!):
20100204 12:09:10< Ivanovic> remove doc/manual/*.xml and doc/manual/*.html
20100204 12:09:27< Ivanovic> generate the english .xml from doc/manual/manual.txt
20100204 12:09:49< Ivanovic> update the pot file from the english xml file
20100204 12:10:01< Ivanovic> update po files against the new pot file
20100204 12:10:41< Ivanovic> generate doc/manual/manual.LANGCODE.xml for those langs that are (still) complete enough
20100204 12:10:59< Ivanovic> generate html files for all existing xml files
20100204 12:16:12< Ivanovic> mordante: those steps, beside the removal of "old" xml and html files, is what the current autotools method basically does
20100204 12:17:39< mordante> ok, guess I'll get back to the drawing board and start from scratch, I miss to many steps
20100204 12:18:33< Ivanovic> :)
20100204 12:18:57< Ivanovic> basically the po4a files should only be touched regarding generation and update stuff when i explicitly run the commands
20100204 12:19:56< Ivanovic> so yeah, when running an update of a single lang the files should be merged against the .pot (for manual and manpages) but stuff in doc/ only needs to be touched when i explicitly run make update-po4a (or however you call it at the end)
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20100204 12:20:36< Ivanovic> and yeah, this stuff (generate pot from manual/manpages) does not have to be included in the pot-update either
20100204 12:20:57< Ivanovic> though one idea might be to integrate it in the pot-update target but not include the generation of files
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20100204 12:21:52< Ivanovic> for the manual this would mean "remove manual.en.xml, regenerate manual.en.xml from manual.txt using asciidoc, create a pot file out of manual.en.xml"
20100204 12:24:26< Ivanovic> from all the po4-update stuff the most time consuming steps (by far!) are generating xml files out of the *many* po files as well as making html files out of those xml files later on
20100204 12:25:35< mordante> hmm I think I first get all steps working properly and then see what will be included in the normal pot-update
20100204 12:27:15< Ivanovic> :)
20100204 12:29:04< Ivanovic> mordante: i got another issue with the cmake recipe when doing a build from an checkout
20100204 12:29:13< Ivanovic> that is: the issue does only exist the first time i try to build
20100204 12:29:31< Ivanovic> at that time a generated file does not exist, when rebuilding (running make another time) things work nicely
20100204 12:30:16< Ivanovic> that is: it only happens when i start from an empty build dir and might only happen with "enough" threads
20100204 12:30:54< Ivanovic> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `src/revision-stamp', needed by `src/revision.hpp'.  Stop.
20100204 12:30:56< Ivanovic> make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/wesnoth-core.dir/all] Error 2
20100204 12:31:23< Ivanovic> that is: the target "revision-stamp" seems to be generated too late for a parallel build
20100204 12:31:35< Ivanovic> in the next run it does exist, because the command is run later on
20100204 12:34:12< mordante> I assume in a svn checkout, how many jobs do you start?
20100204 12:34:25< mordante> off for lunch now
20100204 12:35:39< Ivanovic> 4
20100204 12:36:00< Ivanovic> but also happens on my laptop with "only" two jobs
20100204 12:36:25< Ivanovic> IMO just a cosmetic problem
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20100204 13:33:55< Ivanovic> okay, my backpack is now (almost) ready for fosdem, too
20100204 13:34:25< Ivanovic> just need my laptop (plus AC) plus my shaver in it and i am done, maps for driving are printed, too
20100204 13:35:39< Ivanovic> mordante: you will be bringing your (huge) multi outlet, too, right?
20100204 13:35:53< Ivanovic> i'll have the same stuff with me as last year#
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20100204 13:54:46< mordante> Ivanovic, can't reproduce the revision-stamp problem, but I can loop at your system on Saturday
20100204 13:55:06< mordante> is cosmetic but silly
20100204 13:55:43< mordante> going to pack later, but gathered most stuff already
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20100204 13:58:00< mordante> I'll take the same things as last year a four outlet with 10 or 20 meters of cable (not used last year) and the one with 11 outlets
20100204 14:07:01< Ivanovic> i'll bring the 3m outlet with 3 ports plus the other one with 5 large and 4 small port and just 1m cable
20100204 14:07:21< Ivanovic> at least the 3m cable was in use, not sure about the other
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20100204 14:08:24< Ivanovic> mordante: and another important thing: i am currently charging my mobile phone!
20100204 14:08:25< Ivanovic> :)
20100204 14:10:43< mordante> my battery is still full, but I take the charger with me ;-)
20100204 14:11:07< Ivanovic> i'll have mine with me, too
20100204 14:11:15< mordante> you're going to park at ULB and then with the bus to the hostel?
20100204 14:11:20< Ivanovic> and yeah, this mobile phone has a by far better battery than the one used two years ago
20100204 14:11:41< Ivanovic> yeah, i'll park at ulb and take the bus to central station where i will meet with fendrin
20100204 14:12:06< Ivanovic> that is before checking in we will have to wait for you
20100204 14:12:07< Ivanovic> ;)
20100204 14:13:33< mordante> I guess we directly take the bus to "De Brouckère" and walk from there
20100204 14:15:07< Ivanovic> makes sense, since you are supposed to be later in brussels than we are
20100204 14:15:15< Ivanovic> maybe we will also directly meet with yogiHH
20100204 14:15:27< mordante> what time does he arrive?
20100204 14:15:31< Ivanovic> no idea about noyga and boucman (noyga will arrive later than you, but boucman?)
20100204 14:15:47< Ivanovic> yogihhs plane is meant to land before 12
20100204 14:16:31< Ivanovic> 20100202 21:00:35< YogiHH> Ivanovic: My Ticket says 11:45 at Brussels Airport on friday :)
20100204 14:16:38< mordante> yeah then it makes sense for you to meet with him once you picked up fendrin
20100204 14:17:20< Ivanovic> i assume that he has checked in in his hotel when we arrive at central station
20100204 14:17:55< Ivanovic> and fendrin is meant to arrive around 14:30 at central, so about the time chrber and me will be there
20100204 14:18:21< mordante> we expect to be about an hour later
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20100204 16:42:33-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: string/feature freeze active! | 69 bugs, 243 feature requests, 8 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org/ | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20100204 16:45:22< mordante> esr, can you have a look at this one https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15279 ?
20100204 16:45:51< esr> mordante: Looking...
20100204 16:49:10< mordante> thanks esr 
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20100204 16:50:12< CIA-62> esr * r40993 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/12_The_Underlevels.cfg: Address bug #15279: THoT, teleport in The Underlevels.
20100204 16:50:53< esr> mordante: Good that he aught that before 1.8.
20100204 16:52:39< mordante> indeed
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20100204 17:16:39< CIA-62> esr * r40994 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/scenarios/12_The_Underlevels.cfg: Comment fixes.
20100204 17:17:28< esr> fendrin: ping?
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20100204 18:05:57< Sirp_> hi
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20100204 18:07:45< Ivanovic> hi Sirp_
20100204 18:07:54< mordante> hi Sirp_ 
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20100204 18:17:55< Skystriker> Hey sirp_!
20100204 18:18:09< Sirp_> hi Skystriker ...
20100204 18:18:48< Skystriker> Sorry, you don't know me :)
20100204 18:18:58< Skystriker> I was just responding to your earlier hi
20100204 18:19:05< Skystriker> Saw it a bit late
20100204 18:20:12< Sirp_> Skystriker: no problem, hi. :)
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20100204 18:40:55< Nobun> I am entered to say a little thing: seeing my difficulties to create po for wesnoth I developed a little application able to create po for a wesnoth addon in a simply way, can be useful?
20100204 18:43:02< mordante> Nobun, what difficulties did you have?
20100204 18:43:33< Nobun> simply I didn't know how to create an empty po to edit then in automatic way
20100204 18:43:45< Nobun> so I developed a little application for that :P
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20100204 19:06:09< fendrin> esr: pong
20100204 19:06:38< esr> You know about the startup crash under EXPERIMENTAL?
20100204 19:07:02< fendrin> esr: yrs, it's https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15204
20100204 19:08:48< esr> Really?  Thast's causing the assert failure in the window list?
20100204 19:09:39< mordante> Nobun, ok still not sure what your problem was, we also automatically generate empty po files for wesnoth
20100204 19:10:03< fendrin> esr: Right, the windows are defined in wml. mordante asked me to put this definitions in #ifdef Experimental to not spoil other windows. 
20100204 19:10:07< loonycyborg> mordante: Maybe he means UMC?
20100204 19:16:19< esr> fendrin. I see.
20100204 19:16:23< esr> Dammit.
20100204 19:16:28< mordante> loonycyborg, might be but I think we also do that easily as well
20100204 19:16:35< esr> Who knows the preprocessor?
20100204 19:23:12< Nobun> mordante... to do this you should upload your addon... but my addon is in a development state and I want to add it in official server in this moment. Only in a second moment if I finish my work
20100204 19:24:00< Nobun> in the meantime I needed po becouse I wanted to develop by myself two languages (English and Italian, my native language)
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20100204 19:25:08< Nobun> esr more or less I know what a prepocessor is, esr (in C++)
20100204 19:25:38< esr> Nobun: We're talking about the WML preprocessor.
20100204 19:26:22< Nobun> ah... I am learning WML in this moment, so it is better for me to don't try to say to others what to do :P
20100204 19:42:09< Ivanovic> esr: i'd guess that silene knows the preprocessor
20100204 19:42:29< esr> Probably.
20100204 19:42:53< mordante> Nobun, ah ok maybe you can post it on the forum, I think the developers don't really need it, but thanks for the offer
20100204 19:44:21< Nobun> thank to you for your replies :)
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20100204 20:07:50< YogiHH> hello
20100204 20:08:02< Crab_> hi YogiHH
20100204 20:08:25< mordante> hi YogiHH 
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20100204 20:15:02< Ivanovic> hi YogiHH
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20100204 21:24:53< CIA-62> mordante * r40995 /trunk/images/buttons/ (6 files): Add some buttons for the new tree view.
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20100204 21:35:16< CIA-62> mordante * r40996 /trunk/ (15 files in 7 dirs): 
20100204 21:35:16< CIA-62> Add an initial version of the tree view widget.
20100204 21:35:16< CIA-62> I might want to work on the widget at the FOSDEM, so it's easier to commit
20100204 21:35:16< CIA-62> the code now.
20100204 21:35:41< Crab_> mordante: a tree widget ? that's cool 
20100204 21:36:35< mordante> Crab_, yes but still heavy WIP
20100204 21:37:23< Crab_> mordante: that's good anyway. the usual question, of course, is 'will it work if I put several mb of data into a tree?' :)
20100204 21:37:32< Ivanovic> okay, i really got to pack my laptop tomorrow in the morning after fetching mails and running another svn up
20100204 21:37:34< Ivanovic> ;)
20100204 21:37:58< Ivanovic> Crab_: the first question is: will it work good enough for the player list in the mp lobby?
20100204 21:38:26< Ivanovic> those are "just" some usernames with some status thingies
20100204 21:39:35< Crab_> ah, the mp lobby :)
20100204 21:39:40< Ivanovic> jupp
20100204 21:39:51< CIA-62> mordante * r40997 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
20100204 21:39:52< CIA-62> Proof-of-concept usage of the tree view widget.
20100204 21:39:52< CIA-62> This code is used to test the new widget, also to be used on the FOSDEM,
20100204 21:39:52< CIA-62> the code is hidden under --new-widgets. It's not planned to keep this
20100204 21:39:52< CIA-62> change for the campaign dialog.
20100204 21:39:58< CIA-62> mordante * r40998 /trunk/changelog: Update changelog.
20100204 21:40:12< CIA-62> mordante * r40999 /trunk/src/ (gui/auxiliary/event/dispatcher.hpp unit_frame.cpp): Strip trailing whitespace.
20100204 21:40:19< CIA-62> mordante * r41000 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Remove a useless constant.
20100204 21:42:11< mordante> Crab_, we'll have to test that later, but there's still the 32K pixel limit for SDL the I created with the current setup
20100204 21:42:40< Crab_> ok
20100204 21:42:41< mordante> Ivanovic, that's why I committed the stuff, don't want to transfer it manually to my laptop
20100204 21:42:51< Ivanovic> :)
20100204 21:43:02< mordante> easier to download patches from the internet
20100204 21:43:51< Crab_> mordante: gamestate inspector (esp. ai config inspection) would really benefit from using the tree widget, since the ai has tree-like component structure.
20100204 21:44:29< Crab_> mordante: so, as soon as the tree widget becomes more-or-less stable, i'll try to use it there.
20100204 21:45:12< mordante> ah cool, well I hope it's stable on Monday
20100204 21:45:57< mordante> Ivanovic, it would be nice if you make sure I didn't add new strings, I think I commented them all out...
20100204 21:46:57< Ivanovic> mordante: checking
20100204 21:48:31< Ivanovic> "[node]id 'root' is reserved for the implentation."
20100204 21:48:35< Ivanovic> that one is new
20100204 21:50:38< Ivanovic> beside this everything is fine
20100204 21:50:51< mordante> meh the extractor really doesn't understand C :-(
20100204 21:55:20< CIA-62> mordante * r41001 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/window_builder/tree_view.cpp: Properly comment out a new string.
20100204 21:55:26< mordante> or rather said the syntax highlighting tricked me :-/
20100204 21:59:17< Ivanovic> happens
20100204 22:00:06< mordante> vim just understands #if 0 and shows it as comment
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20100204 22:42:31< Espreon> mordante: Around?
20100204 22:48:57< mordante> Espreon, yes
20100204 22:49:27< Espreon> mordante: When do you plan to fix those Pango issues?
20100204 22:49:45< mordante> Espreon, which pango issues exactly?
20100204 22:49:52< Espreon> The Windows issues.
20100204 22:50:23< Espreon> Italicized text rendered by Pango on Windows is simply awful; in some cases, final letters appear to be missing.
20100204 22:53:15< mordante> no haven't had time for it and I don't have Windows to test it on
20100204 22:53:57< mordante> IIRC loonycyborg wanted to look into it, but not 100% sure
20100204 22:54:49< loonycyborg> How I can look into it when I can't even reproduce it? :/
20100204 22:55:21< mordante> same here ;-)
20100204 22:55:38< Espreon> loonycyborg: You only have it running in Virtualbox, yes?
20100204 22:55:39< mordante> guess then it was some other Windows issue you wanted to look into
20100204 22:56:13< Espreon> No, this is the issue that I want to be fixed.
20100204 22:56:28< mordante> you == loonycyborg ;-)
20100204 22:56:32< Espreon> Oh.
20100204 22:56:39< loonycyborg> Espreon: Yes. But font seems to look still ok when I multiboot to it.
20100204 22:56:51< Espreon> Odd...
20100204 22:57:48< loonycyborg> mordante: iirc there was also something about clipboard.
20100204 22:57:51< Espreon> Why do things look like crap on both of my laptops? They have different screen sizes, video cards, et cetera.
20100204 22:58:05< Espreon> Well, in Windows only of course.
20100204 22:58:15< mordante> loonycyborg, ah yes now I remember
20100204 22:58:37< loonycyborg> Espreon: They look fine for you under linux?
20100204 22:58:42< Espreon> Yes.
20100204 23:02:55< Espreon> loonycyborg: Were you using a laptop or a desktop?
20100204 23:03:08< loonycyborg> Desktop.
20100204 23:04:00< Espreon> OK, we need to get someone with a laptop with Windows on it to test this.
20100204 23:04:18< Ivanovic> probably difficult to find among the devs
20100204 23:04:25< Ivanovic> is it maybe related to the *version* of windows?
20100204 23:04:34< Espreon> Maybe...
20100204 23:04:43< Ivanovic> so what windows are you using?
20100204 23:04:46< Espreon> XP.
20100204 23:04:55< loonycyborg> So do I.
20100204 23:05:03< Ivanovic> pro, home, tablet, x64?
20100204 23:05:12< Espreon> Professional.
20100204 23:05:49< Ivanovic> do you have any oem crapware still running?
20100204 23:06:00< Ivanovic> what are processes working in the background?
20100204 23:06:23< Ivanovic> what version of directX, which SP?
20100204 23:06:42< Espreon> All crapware has been smitten long ago.
20100204 23:06:57< Espreon> As for the other info, lemme check...
20100204 23:07:27< Ivanovic> are you up to date regarding "general fixes"?
20100204 23:07:47< Espreon> As far as I know, yes.
20100204 23:07:51< Ivanovic> http://www.wsusoffline.net/
20100204 23:08:00< Ivanovic> i'd recommend using this prog to fetch all the fixes
20100204 23:08:13< Ivanovic> works lovely and there are shellscripts bundled so that you can get the updates using linux
20100204 23:08:22< Espreon> I can't use that on my craptop, as it is not truly mine. I cannot use it on this, as I am busy installing KDE 4.4
20100204 23:08:41< Espreon> The craptop has SP3.
20100204 23:08:49< Ivanovic> ehm, this tool just fetches updates and can create an iso
20100204 23:08:59< Ivanovic> with root access you can use that iso to install OS patches
20100204 23:09:00< Espreon> I cannot do anything on that craptop.
20100204 23:09:26< Espreon> I do not have sufficient privileges.
20100204 23:10:01< Espreon> Also, the BIOS is locked, so... yeahz...
20100204 23:10:02< Ivanovic> brrr
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20100204 23:10:54< Espreon> No booting Linux from a CD or any of that fun stuff...
20100204 23:11:22< loonycyborg> Where are your screenshots with the font issue?
20100204 23:11:47< Espreon> Lemme make moar...
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20100204 23:14:53< Cheese-kun> http://imagebin.org/83398
20100204 23:15:16< Cheese-kun> http://imagebin.org/83399
20100204 23:15:49< Espreon> There.
20100204 23:16:23< Espreon> With the first screenshot, take a good look at the final "W".
20100204 23:16:44< Espreon> Actually, STARE CLOSELY at it.
20100204 23:16:58< Espreon> You should be able to notice a blue tint as well.
20100204 23:17:10< Espreon> Bluish-green actually.
20100204 23:18:08< loonycyborg> Indeed. I don't see it as issue since I used CRT monitors for a long time before :P
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20100204 23:18:39< Espreon> ...
20100204 23:18:51< loonycyborg> One of them produces similar effects.
20100204 23:18:52< Espreon> Part of the "W" is MISSING.
20100204 23:20:10< Espreon> The craptop is using DirectX 9, BTW.
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20100204 23:21:03< Blarumyrran> Wut, does wesnoth use directx?
20100204 23:21:17< Espreon> Ivanovic wanted to know.
20100204 23:21:33< Espreon> IDK, I am just giving the requested information.
20100204 23:21:39< mordante> Blarumyrran, no we use pango/cairo
20100204 23:22:09< mordante> and I don't know nor care whether that uses directx
20100204 23:23:06< Espreon> I wonder if shadowmaster still has that laptop with Vista on it.
20100204 23:23:43< mordante> your screenshots still look like a subpixel render issue
20100204 23:24:15< mordante> and that the size of the text is reported wrongly and thus cut off
20100204 23:24:23< loonycyborg> Probably pango/cairo uses GDI
20100204 23:24:46< Espreon> mordante: So, what should I do?
20100204 23:25:03< mordante> use Linux :-P
20100204 23:25:26< Espreon> Unfortunately, I cannot put Linux on that craptop.
20100204 23:25:42< mordante> ah that explains the name craptop ;-)
20100204 23:25:57< Espreon> It happens on Windows on this nice laptop as well.
20100204 23:26:22< mordante> but you could try to test whether other pango/cairo programs have the same issue
20100204 23:26:23< Espreon> It probably happens elsewhere as well, but we cannot just tell everyone to use Linux, even though it would be nice.
20100204 23:26:44< Espreon> mordante: OK, I want names...
20100204 23:27:03< mordante> oh surely we can tell everyone, don't think it will help however
20100204 23:27:18< mordante> Espreon, I also don't know other applications, but google's your friend
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20100204 23:28:12< Espreon> No, it is not.
20100204 23:28:16< Espreon> ;)
20100204 23:28:29< loonycyborg> There's gtk-demo.exe in gtk SDK :P
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20100204 23:37:59< Espreon> The text in gtk-demo.exe looks wonderful...
20100204 23:39:24< Espreon> mordante; loonycyborg: ^
20100204 23:40:02< loonycyborg> Not in ironic sense?
20100204 23:40:54< Espreon> No irony.
20100204 23:42:31< loonycyborg> mordante: The text rendered by pango is passed through SDL, correct?
20100204 23:43:44< Ivanovic> i asked for the directx version since i assume that things go through sdl which most likey does use directx (the 2d component) for rendering
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20100204 23:44:28< mordante> loonycyborg, I assume it does since it works for most people correctly
20100204 23:44:58< Espreon> Yes, assumptions are being made...
20100204 23:45:40< Espreon> Windows users tend to tolerate ugliness...
20100204 23:45:47< Espreon> So, yeahz...
20100204 23:50:45< loonycyborg> I'll upgrade the gtk SDK I'm using for the next version. Maybe that'll help.
20100204 23:51:12< Espreon> Hopefully.
20100204 23:51:31< mordante> I hope so too
20100204 23:52:33< Ivanovic> the other option is "everything goes *boom*"
20100204 23:52:34< Ivanovic> ;)
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