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20100206 00:14:16< Blarumyrran>  scenery\castle-ruins.png should be deleted though
20100206 00:14:36< Blarumyrran> It's hideous and it's only used in one scenario where it plays no role at all
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20100206 00:17:17< Blarumyrran> When I asked an expert at this about how could that image possibly be improved to bring it back from the brink of Extreme Ugliness, he replied "meh
20100206 00:17:18< Blarumyrran> "
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20100206 01:24:17< shadowmaster> esr: please don't delete anything that's unused in mainline without checking what it is first
20100206 01:24:34< shadowmaster> Jetrel himself has added some images in the hope that they are useful for UMC.
20100206 01:24:59< esr> shadowmaster: I won't.
20100206 01:25:56< esr> Blarumyrran: I'm not going to delete it if it's used.
20100206 01:26:24< Blarumyrran> Well you can obviously remove the usage first
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20100206 01:26:51< esr> What I'm really more interested in is isdentifying unused animation frames that were omitted by accident, and wiring them in.
20100206 01:27:36< shadowmaster> there are also some unused animation frames that correspond to deprecated baseframes. They were left there as a guide for new artists willing to remake those animations AFAIK
20100206 01:27:56< shadowmaster> (although I suspect Jetrel would want them to work on those from scratch nowadays)
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20100206 01:29:07< esr> shadowmaster: You've seen the list of unused images I pasrtebinned?
20100206 01:30:07< shadowmaster> i'm on it
20100206 01:30:44< shadowmaster> "Resource ../../data/core/images/help/hpxp.png is unused" umm
20100206 01:31:35< shadowmaster> esr: that image *is* used in the help
20100206 01:31:46< shadowmaster> Gameplay -> Hitpoints and Experience
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20100206 01:37:14< shadowmaster> #2 and "3 in the pastebin are now used by UtBS /me looks at CIA-62 
20100206 01:37:29< CIA-62> shadowmaster * r41008 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/ (Desert_Prowler.cfg Desert_Sentinel.cfg): 
20100206 01:37:29< CIA-62> Make use of the Desert Prowler and Sentinel female baseframes, reported
20100206 01:37:29< CIA-62> unused by wmlscope. We don't have female variations or proper animations
20100206 01:37:29< CIA-62> yet though... :(
20100206 01:38:39< shadowmaster> there are many images reported unused that are used by the C++
20100206 01:39:08< shadowmaster> and also by WML, via GUI2 (/data/gui)
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20100206 01:44:22< CIA-62> shadowmaster * r41009 /trunk/data/core/units/undead/Skele_Chocobone.cfg: 
20100206 01:44:22< CIA-62> Probable fix for the timing + unuse frame issues with the Chocobone
20100206 01:44:22< CIA-62> animation; may need more tweaking
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20100206 04:00:57< esr> shadowmaster: Those shouldn't be in data/core, whuch should contain images used by WML only.
20100206 04:01:10< esr> I may move some stuff...
20100206 04:01:20< shadowmaster> esr: I said some *are* used by WML
20100206 04:01:31< shadowmaster> GUI2 WML in particular. Also, what about the help/ images?
20100206 04:02:27< esr> THe ones used by WML and the help images should stay, but anything used only by C++ should move.  There's another directory for those.
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20100206 05:38:52< Skystriker> Btw
20100206 05:39:00< Skystriker> Major ups to whoever did the new slayer melee animation
20100206 05:39:08< Skystriker> That is all
20100206 05:39:09< Skystriker> <3
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20100206 10:17:39< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> hi everybody!
20100206 10:17:43< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> greetings from fosdem!
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20100206 10:51:37< CIA-62> noyga * r41010 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/fr.po wesnoth-nr/fr.po): Commit yesterday's french translation update
20100206 10:51:38< mordante> servus
20100206 10:55:58< CIA-62> silene * r41011 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Added locations to Lua-accessed units in order to match behavior of [store_unit]. (Fix for bug #15289.)
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20100206 11:04:15< CIA-62> silene * r41012 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: Fixed dangling locations causing the engine to mistake recallable units with alive units when loading a game.
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20100206 11:50:43< CIA-62> loonycyborg * r41013 /trunk/src/clipboard.cpp: 
20100206 11:50:43< CIA-62> Fixed copy to clipboard on windows.
20100206 11:50:43< CIA-62> The code that was converting newlines(\n -> \r\n) was dropping
20100206 11:50:43< CIA-62> all characters if the string didn't contain newlines.
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20100206 12:55:07< AI0867|FOSDEM> wesbot: topic
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20100206 13:51:01< CIA-62> jhinrichs * r41014 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/tree_view.cpp: Fixes a compiler error for VC++
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20100206 14:11:09< CIA-62> mordante * r41015 /trunk/src/gui/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Update copyright headers
20100206 14:11:12< CIA-62> mordante * r41016 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/campaign_selection.cpp: Show all campaigns in the tree view.
20100206 14:11:16< CIA-62> mordante * r41017 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (tree_view.cpp tree_view.hpp): Fix scrolling in the tree view.
20100206 14:11:21< CIA-62> mordante * r41018 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/tree_view.cpp: 
20100206 14:11:21< CIA-62> Update the size of the scrollbars in the tree view.
20100206 14:11:21< CIA-62> When collapsing or expanding the items the scrollbars are resized.
20100206 14:11:24< CIA-62> mordante * r41019 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (tree_view.cpp tree_view.hpp): 
20100206 14:11:24< CIA-62> Properly deselect the previous selected item.
20100206 14:11:24< CIA-62> This allows allows the export the selected item to the widgets that use
20100206 14:11:24< CIA-62> us.
20100206 14:11:41< CIA-62> mordante * r41020 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/campaign_selection.cpp: Start the selected campaign in the tree view.
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20100206 14:38:08< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> ilor, silene, Soliton: any idea what the reason for this bug could be? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15256
20100206 14:38:29< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> in theory it should not happen that players have different rng seeds since those are server generated now, right?
20100206 14:40:01< AI0867|FOSDEM> possibly a misuse of a random [set_variable], but that wouldn't happen on standard combat maps
20100206 14:40:05< loonycyborg> Ivanovic|FOSDEM: Where's the list of wesnoth devs who'll be at FOSDEM?
20100206 14:40:39< AI0867|FOSDEM> wiki.wesnoth.org/FOSDEM2010
20100206 14:41:19< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> AI0867|FOSDEM: uhm, since it is about recruiting, this would be *strange*
20100206 14:41:37< AI0867|FOSDEM> didn't catch that
20100206 14:42:00< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> that really does suprise me, messages at recruiting but nowhere else
20100206 14:42:25< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> though i have no idea if they is really some default era, plain combat thing or if this is some "special scenario case"
20100206 14:42:25< AI0867|FOSDEM> or, from left to right, noyga, fendrin, chrber, ivanovic, mordante, AI0867, yogiHH. Boucman isn't here atm
20100206 14:42:50< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> boucman would be between mordante and AI0867
20100206 14:44:28< ilor> Ivanovic_: it might be due to the fact that recruits are synced the old way
20100206 14:46:20< loonycyborg> ilor: iirc you were asking about clipboard issues on windows. I've just fixed a rather ridiculous one :P
20100206 14:46:34< ilor> loonycyborg: :D
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20100206 14:48:54< Noyga> i took a picture from my webcam a couple of minutes ago : http://bluebloup.free.fr/wesnoth/FOSDEM/2010-02-06-142229.jpg
20100206 14:49:20< Noyga> (too lazy to use the digital camera :o))
20100206 14:51:30< ilor> Noyga: mordante looks busy ;)
20100206 14:53:34< CIA-62> ai0867 * r41021 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wmlparser.py: Add --to-json option to wmlparser
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20100206 15:03:35< mordante|FOSDEM> ilor, some people have to work :-P
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20100206 16:12:29< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> zookeeper: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28793&start=0
20100206 16:12:36< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> most likely some more duplicated ids
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20100206 17:06:04< boucman|FOSDEM> no artist around ?
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20100206 17:11:51< boucman|FOSDEM> any artist around ?
20100206 17:19:11< CIA-62> mordante * r41022 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (tree_view.cpp tree_view.hpp): Add a selection change handler for the tree view.
20100206 17:19:20< CIA-62> mordante * r41023 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/campaign_selection.cpp: Handle selection changes in the campaign dialog.
20100206 17:19:23< Blarumyrran> I'm around!
20100206 17:19:23< CIA-62> mordante * r41024 /trunk/data/gui/default/widget/toggle_button_tree_view_node.cfg: 
20100206 17:19:23< CIA-62> Switch fold and unfold image.
20100206 17:19:23< CIA-62> Now the folded and unfolded nodes look sane.
20100206 17:19:29< CIA-62> mordante * r41025 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (tree_view.cpp tree_view.hpp): 
20100206 17:19:29< CIA-62> Comment out some not implemented functions.
20100206 17:19:29< CIA-62> Will be enabled later, but for now disable them.
20100206 17:19:32< CIA-62> mordante * r41026 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/tree_view.cpp: Remove some debug output.
20100206 17:19:35< CIA-62> mordante * r41027 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/tree_view.cpp: Honour the placement index in the tree view.
20100206 17:19:42< CIA-62> mordante * r41028 /trunk/src/gui/widgets/ (tree_view.cpp tree_view.hpp): 
20100206 17:19:42< CIA-62> Add a way to remove nodes from a tree view.
20100206 17:19:42< CIA-62> Code is untested, will be tested with the lobby code later on.
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20100206 17:33:32< shadowmaster> boucman: artists for what?
20100206 17:34:13< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> art directors to judge the new water once integrated
20100206 17:34:38< shadowmaster> Ivanovic|FOSDEM: note that frogatto runs on my Debian system with Mesa 7.7 but tiles are not drawn
20100206 17:34:43< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> and, uhm, his connection sucks again though he is sitting right beside me and it works nicely for me
20100206 17:35:00< shadowmaster> yes, radeon, always HEAD, using a crappy RS780-based controller, blah blah
20100206 17:35:02< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> shadowmaster: latest svn works here and worked on all systems we used for some short testing
20100206 17:35:16< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> and it was a general test regarding speed
20100206 17:35:19< shadowmaster> yes, I have tested with all "latest SVN" since december
20100206 17:35:25< AI0867|FOSDEM> I'm the only one with issues
20100206 17:35:26< CIA-62> noyga * r41029 /trunk/src/dialogs.cpp: Fix bug #15250 ("Advance Unit window isn't big enough to contain a unit with 3 attacks")
20100206 17:35:29< shadowmaster> an optimization for the iPhone may have broken it
20100206 17:35:32< shadowmaster> *for me*
20100206 17:35:33< AI0867|FOSDEM> on my i915, rendering water is slow
20100206 17:35:38< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> write a mesa bugreport if graphics are broken
20100206 17:35:45< AI0867|FOSDEM> and once he *enters* the water, the framerate drops below 1
20100206 17:35:50< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> (that is ask in #radeon first, the people in there are nice)
20100206 17:35:52< shadowmaster> maybe when I can get hold of a mesa git clone
20100206 17:35:59< shadowmaster> :p
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20100206 17:36:24< shadowmaster> Ivanovic|FOSDEM: you could possibly get Jetrel to join here
20100206 17:36:31< shadowmaster> he's always on IRC
20100206 17:36:50< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> shadowmaster: in general the only way to get those texture bugs fixed is talk to the devs of mesa
20100206 17:36:52< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> ;)
20100206 17:36:59< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> shadowmaster: yeah, already pinged him, asking to ojin
20100206 17:38:05< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> because boucman is currently on the ubuntu default irc client which, uhm, sucks as well as his connection
20100206 17:38:40< shadowmaster> is that xchat?
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20100206 17:39:58< AI0867|FOSDEM> Jetrel: boucman is restarting his laptop, he'll be back soon
20100206 17:40:04< Jetrel> Ivanovic|FOSDEM:   I have to leave for several hours, so if you need something, you'd better hurry. :|
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20100206 17:41:05< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> Jetrel: the stuff boucman wants you to look at is here: http://files.wesnoth.org/boucman/water.zip
20100206 17:41:11< boucman|FOSDEM> and back...
20100206 17:41:12< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> you have to ask him how to use it
20100206 17:41:17< boucman|FOSDEM> hey Jetrel
20100206 17:41:27< mordante|FOSDEM> shadowmaster, no xchat doesn't suck
20100206 17:41:43< boucman|FOSDEM> the file contains the new animated tiles, the related .cfg files and a readme telling you where to put the different files
20100206 17:41:48< shadowmaster> mordante|FOSDEM: okay :p
20100206 17:41:50< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> shadowmaster: some strange replacement as multimessenger instead of pidgin
20100206 17:42:18< Jetrel> boucman|FOSDEM:   I don't get it
20100206 17:42:23< boucman|FOSDEM> at this point, it only does deep water, but i would like some feedback on how it looks, how the deep water to deep water tiling works
20100206 17:42:29< Jetrel> boucman|FOSDEM:   you want me to do that?
20100206 17:42:30< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> because pidgin does not support video chat, this (strange one which really sucks at irc, even worse then pidgin) does support video chat stuff
20100206 17:42:47< Jetrel> Guys, I haven't had a build toolchain for years now. :|
20100206 17:42:55< Jetrel> _years_.
20100206 17:42:57< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> no need to build (hopefully)
20100206 17:43:00< shadowmaster> Jetrel: but you have wesnoth
20100206 17:43:03< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> just some data files
20100206 17:43:04< boucman|FOSDEM> Jetrel: it's a config file change only, no need to build
20100206 17:43:12< boucman|FOSDEM> but i don't want to commit at this point
20100206 17:43:13< Jetrel> Okay, what's a version it will work in?
20100206 17:43:25< Jetrel> latest dev version off wesnoth.org?
20100206 17:43:31< shadowmaster> my guess: anything 1.5.x, 1.6.x, 1.7.x
20100206 17:43:37< boucman|FOSDEM> any  1.7, probably .6 too
20100206 17:43:43< Jetrel> k
20100206 17:43:56< Jetrel> in that case I'll drop it in my current copy.
20100206 17:44:01< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> :)
20100206 17:44:04< boucman|FOSDEM> yup, that's it
20100206 17:44:13< Jetrel> 1.7.11
20100206 17:44:28< shadowmaster> since the last time the terrain graphics macros were massively changed was in 1.5.x
20100206 17:45:54< Jetrel> okay, launching.
20100206 17:47:25< Jetrel> erg, that can't be right - showing pure black. :(
20100206 17:48:11< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> this is not right...
20100206 17:48:21< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> and boucmans connection is down again
20100206 17:48:27< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> will type for him
20100206 17:48:40< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> any error message?
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20100206 17:48:45< Jetrel> none;
20100206 17:48:54< boucman|FOSDEM> darn
20100206 17:48:56< Jetrel> though I'm not running from a console
20100206 17:49:04< boucman|FOSDEM> hmm
20100206 17:49:05< shadowmaster> trying it myself
20100206 17:49:07< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> would be great if you started from the terminal
20100206 17:49:19< Jetrel> yeah, that's a little awkward, but I'm doing so
20100206 17:50:25< shadowmaster> hm, works for me
20100206 17:50:37< boucman|FOSDEM> hmm
20100206 17:50:47< shadowmaster> and I did place the files according t the instructions
20100206 17:50:48< Jetrel> No, none;  there are Pango errors, but nothing else.
20100206 17:50:51< boucman|FOSDEM> i can't see anything wrong wrt what I wrote in the readme
20100206 17:50:59< Jetrel> Yeah, I did exactly what the readme said.
20100206 17:52:12 * Jetrel is downloading a fresh copy for sanity's sake.
20100206 17:52:18< boucman|FOSDEM> :/
20100206 17:52:28< shadowmaster> I'd ask "are you 100% sure?"
20100206 17:52:33< boucman|FOSDEM> if it unziped properly, it was probably correct...
20100206 17:52:47< Jetrel> shadowmaster: yes, double checked it.
20100206 17:52:51< boucman|FOSDEM> the terrain-graphics.cfg should replace an existing file
20100206 17:52:56< Jetrel> yep
20100206 17:53:11< boucman|FOSDEM> the water.cfg should be in a subdirectory just next to the first cfg
20100206 17:53:11< shadowmaster> boucman|FOSDEM: if it wasn't replaced, Jetrel would be getting the old graphics anyway
20100206 17:53:18< boucman|FOSDEM> true
20100206 17:53:30< boucman|FOSDEM> and the images should be placed next to the existing ocean images
20100206 17:53:44< Jetrel> One thing to note; doubt it'd cause anything, but OS X is not case-sensitive WRT filenames.
20100206 17:53:44< boucman|FOSDEM> what's suprising is that there is no error messages at all...
20100206 17:53:53< shadowmaster> anyway, this looks sweet, but let me take a look at :fps with a map with enough water
20100206 17:54:15< Jetrel> However, this shouldn't cause any errors, because it means it treats alternate case arrangements as the same filename.
20100206 17:54:17< boucman|FOSDEM> shadowmaster: it works for you ?
20100206 17:54:24< shadowmaster> Jetrel: I'm on a case-sensitive system and filesystem, so if that was the problem it'd not work for me
20100206 17:54:28< shadowmaster> boucman|FOSDEM: yeah, it does
20100206 17:54:32< boucman|FOSDEM> hmm
20100206 17:55:17< boucman|FOSDEM> well, case sensitivity could explain things...
20100206 17:56:10< shadowmaster> getting 18-29 fps at the eft top corner of HttT Bay of Pearls
20100206 17:56:29< boucman|FOSDEM> instead of ?
20100206 17:56:30< shadowmaster> and wesnoth is eating 30% of time for two CPU cores :x
20100206 17:56:44< boucman|FOSDEM> Jetrel: gimme a minute
20100206 17:56:49< shadowmaster> normally 30-40 fps, less than 15% CPU time
20100206 17:57:07< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> shadowmaster: 1.9 feature, opengl, ...
20100206 17:57:08< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> ;)
20100206 17:57:40< shadowmaster> actually, it's normally 50 fps in that particular area
20100206 17:58:03< shadowmaster> and 2-6% CPU time, but yeah, I guess 3d acceleration would do miracles :/
20100206 18:00:09< boucman|FOSDEM> Jetrel: try with http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/m4ee8e30b
20100206 18:00:19< boucman|FOSDEM> instead of water.cfg
20100206 18:02:04< shadowmaster> you don't see SVN developers around there so you can send them a little gift from me? (namely a timed bomb)
20100206 18:03:53< Jetrel> no results from that pastebin. :(
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20100206 18:04:52 * shadowmaster shouldn't my bandwidth
20100206 18:05:02< shadowmaster> &26
20100206 18:05:16< boucman|FOSDEM> :/
20100206 18:05:54< boucman|FOSDEM> Jetrel: you're base on 1.7 (making sure)
20100206 18:06:06< Jetrel> yep
20100206 18:06:18< zookeeper> lol, what. i'm fixing some UtBS WML i thought was ancient and silly, and then i stumble into something like format="0..$($random_placement_locations.length - 1)" in the middle of it :P
20100206 18:06:20< Jetrel> testing on a clean DL of 1.7.12
20100206 18:06:32< boucman|FOSDEM> k
20100206 18:06:39< shadowmaster> zookeeper: probably one of fendrin's changes?
20100206 18:06:56< Jetrel> *sigh*  dammit.
20100206 18:07:06< Jetrel> boucman|FOSDEM:   no luck.
20100206 18:07:09< shadowmaster> obviously not everyone's got the "format= is deprecated, shadowmaster wants to kill it in 1.9" note
20100206 18:07:33< boucman|FOSDEM> Jetrel: usual animated terrain (like windmill) does work for you ?
20100206 18:07:34< shadowmaster> s/9/5/
20100206 18:08:02< shadowmaster> "black void" is a symptom of missing image files or terrain layout specification for that tile
20100206 18:08:06< Jetrel> ...  I presume so
20100206 18:08:41< shadowmaster> hm
20100206 18:09:04< Jetrel> Yes, windmills are animating.
20100206 18:09:07< boucman|FOSDEM> k
20100206 18:09:50< boucman|FOSDEM> well, either it's casing related or there is a mistake in the way the files are placed
20100206 18:09:57< boucman|FOSDEM> since it worked for shadowmaster
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20100206 18:10:02< shadowmaster> due to some INTERESTING usage of terrain builder, missing image files are not reported to stderr, there's a good reason for this, actually
20100206 18:10:22< Jetrel> I placed the files exactly like you told me.
20100206 18:10:27< boucman|FOSDEM> k
20100206 18:10:35< boucman|FOSDEM> gimme a second, then
20100206 18:10:36< Jetrel> All the images went in data/core/images/terrain/water
20100206 18:10:57< boucman|FOSDEM> (more like ~15' actually)
20100206 18:11:08< boucman|FOSDEM> i'll lower case all the filenames here, make it work ad provide a new water.zip
20100206 18:12:30< shadowmaster> hm, missing image files are not even reported at lower log levels, wtf
20100206 18:13:01< shadowmaster> I assume this is the consequence of some terrain builder optimization
20100206 18:13:23< CIA-62> ai0867 * r41030 /trunk/SConstruct: Remove lua switch from scons, wesnoth doesn't compile without it and autotools and cmake have already dropped the switch
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20100206 18:16:12< boucman|FOSDEM> shadowmaster: it's to simplify macroes
20100206 18:16:37< boucman|FOSDEM> it allows to have generic macroes even when some files don't actually exist
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20100206 18:17:01< shadowmaster> yes I know, but I recall that they were reported at lower log levels before (info, debug)
20100206 18:17:24< shadowmaster> I maybe recalling wrong as usual
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20100206 18:19:02< Jetrel> boucman|FOSDEM:   I need to go, I'm sorry.
20100206 18:19:13< Jetrel> I'll be back in 4-5hrs.
20100206 18:19:58< Jetrel> I tried lowercasing the macro, btw, and lowercasing all the file names to match, and as expected, it didn't make any difference.
20100206 18:20:11< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> Jetrel: will upload you the zip now
20100206 18:20:30< Jetrel> ...  okay, this is the last thing I can do..
20100206 18:20:57< boucman|FOSDEM> Jetrel: i'll still be here tomorow, so i can try to catch you then
20100206 18:20:59< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> replaced the file with a new one
20100206 18:21:00< shadowmaster> lowercasing the macro is a) unrequired and b) basd idea
20100206 18:21:17< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> http://files.wesnoth.org/boucman/water.zip
20100206 18:21:22< Jetrel> shadowmaster:  not the macro name, the filenames inside it.
20100206 18:21:35< Jetrel> it should be unrequired.
20100206 18:21:48< shadowmaster> Jetrel: ignore that message
20100206 18:22:14< shadowmaster> I wanted to delete it before sending but my SSH session's input got stuck
20100206 18:23:10< Jetrel> argh, nothing, still
20100206 18:24:18< boucman|FOSDEM> that's really weird...
20100206 18:24:30< shadowmaster> if I still had multiple dev versions, it'd be most likely that I was putting files in the datadirs for different versions.
20100206 18:24:33< boucman|FOSDEM> Jetrel: ok, we'll try again tomorow if you need to leave
20100206 18:24:35< Jetrel> just to be 100% sure, the water images go in data/core/images/terrain/water
20100206 18:24:49< boucman|FOSDEM> yes
20100206 18:24:50< Jetrel> and *not* in some subfolder inside there?
20100206 18:25:07< boucman|FOSDEM> there are no subfolders inside it
20100206 18:25:14< Jetrel> they don't all get dropped in as a single, new dir or anything?
20100206 18:25:20< boucman|FOSDEM> nope
20100206 18:25:23< Jetrel> good.
20100206 18:25:42< boucman|FOSDEM> you're under macos, arn't you ?
20100206 18:25:48< Jetrel> Yes.
20100206 18:25:51< boucman|FOSDEM> ok
20100206 18:26:06< Jetrel> boucman|FOSDEM:   you may want to ping crimson_penguin about testing it.
20100206 18:26:08< boucman|FOSDEM> crimson_penguin: around ?
20100206 18:26:20< boucman|FOSDEM> that's what I was thinking :P
20100206 18:26:44< crimson_penguin> could be
20100206 18:27:04< Jetrel> ach, gotta go for -real-, now. :(
20100206 18:27:14< boucman|FOSDEM> Jetrel: see you
20100206 18:27:25< Jetrel> ben, gimme a holler if there's something I need to change in what I did.
20100206 18:27:26< boucman|FOSDEM> crimson_penguin: did you follow what we were doing ?
20100206 18:27:53< crimson_penguin> testing some water thing?
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20100206 18:28:04< boucman|FOSDEM> yes
20100206 18:28:34< crimson_penguin> ok, so what should I do?
20100206 18:28:36< boucman|FOSDEM> it didn't work for Jetrel, but it did for shadowmaster, so we would like another macos user to check what's going on
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20100206 18:29:12< boucman|FOSDEM> download  http://files.wesnoth.org/boucman/water.zip
20100206 18:29:28< crimson_penguin> already did that
20100206 18:29:31< boucman|FOSDEM> place all the images in data/core/images/terrain/water
20100206 18:30:00< boucman|FOSDEM> replace your existing terrain-graphics.cfg in data/core with the one provided (backup first)p
20100206 18:30:27< crimson_penguin> I don't need to backup, I have like 5 copies of everything :P
20100206 18:30:40< boucman|FOSDEM> and add water.cfg in data/core/terrain-graphics/
20100206 18:30:55< boucman|FOSDEM> now load a map with some deep water in it
20100206 18:31:16< crimson_penguin> I have no images in data/core/terrain-graphics/
20100206 18:31:36< crimson_penguin> oh, nevermind
20100206 18:35:08< crimson_penguin> boucman|FOSDEM: I get an error when I go to Multiplayer -> Local Game
20100206 18:35:22< boucman|FOSDEM> what error ?
20100206 18:35:25< crimson_penguin> "Could not get image for terrain: Ww"
20100206 18:35:42< boucman|FOSDEM> ok, 
20100206 18:35:46< crimson_penguin> line 95 in minimap.cpp
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20100206 18:36:35< boucman|FOSDEM> crimson_penguin: could you double check you put the images at the right place ?
20100206 18:37:35< crimson_penguin> data/core/images/terrain/water/
20100206 18:38:31< boucman|FOSDEM> sounds correct
20100206 18:38:42< boucman|FOSDEM> hmm
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20100206 18:39:21< boucman|FOSDEM> that's really weird...
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20100206 18:42:43< boucman|FOSDEM> it's complaining about Ww ? not Wo ?
20100206 18:46:08< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> cu tomorrow
20100206 18:46:22< mordante|FOSDEM> bye
20100206 18:46:27< shadowmaster> that's *really* weird
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20100206 18:47:52< boucman|FOSDEM> hmm
20100206 18:48:03< boucman|FOSDEM> ok, it seems we're leaving, so i'll see you all tomorow
20100206 18:48:33< shadowmaster> bye
20100206 18:49:05< boucman|FOSDEM> crimson_penguin : i'll try to catch you tomorow...
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20100206 19:35:24< CIA-62> esr * r41031 /trunk/data/ (12 files in 9 dirs): 
20100206 19:35:24< CIA-62> Make it possible to type-check more macro calls. No logic changes,
20100206 19:35:24< CIA-62> this just renames some formals.
20100206 19:49:55< CIA-62> zookeeper * r41032 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/09_Blood_is_Thicker_Than_Water.cfg: Fixed some duplicate unit id's and used the core SCATTER_UNITS macro instead of RANDOM_PLACEMENT_AREA and PLACE_UNITS_RANDOMLY.
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20100206 19:51:48< Skystriker> I'm having an odd bug in a MP game on the dev server
20100206 19:52:36< Skystriker> I've had some connection problems today, so I've d/c'd from the game multiple times.
20100206 19:52:41< Skystriker> And basically, my side lost out on a turn
20100206 19:52:56< Skystriker> When p1 ended his turn, p2 got control, but none of the units refreshed their attacks or moves
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20100206 20:53:18< Jozrael> Is this a known bug?
20100206 20:56:02< ilor> what is? game getting in a bad state after numeorus disconnects?
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20100206 21:05:45< Jozrael> Yes ilor
20100206 21:05:49< Jozrael> Sorry, just saw your response
20100206 21:06:03< Jozrael> I didn't know disconnects affected anything
20100206 21:07:06< ilor> they shouldn't, really. what gets to the server is the game 
20100206 21:10:34< ilor> mordante: something's seriously messed up with listbox refreshing. 
20100206 21:11:20< ilor> sometimes I get overlaps, or the listbox doesn't change after an item is added
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20100206 21:13:17< ilor> mordane: look at the playerlist here: http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5249/listboxes.png
20100206 21:14:50< ilor> mordante: also I think most of the issues with the lobby would be a lot easier if all of the main widgets had constant size. the jumpyness is really unpleasant currently.
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20100206 21:16:10< ilor> Skystriker: what you describet sounds a bit strange tbh, atm a lot of devs are at fosdem and not around
20100206 21:17:18< ilor> Skystriker: maybe consider filing a bug report at https://gna.org/bugs/?func=additem&group=wesnoth , if you have a save from the buggy game it would probably help
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20100206 21:24:39< CIA-62> ilor * r41033 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/ (lobby_main.cpp lobby_main.hpp): work around one case of lobby crashing due to deleting a widget from it's event handler (player info dialog)
20100206 21:26:46< ilor> mordante: also, there seem to be a great many number of cases where a widget might be deleted. Is it at all possible to fix the underlying issue? any pointers on how I could try to do that?
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20100206 21:32:05< CIA-62> ilor * r41034 /trunk/src/gui/dialogs/lobby_main.cpp: move the initial network processing and timer startup to the end of lobby's pre_show
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20100206 23:17:18< AI0867|FOSDEM> silene: your r37609 (Removed dependency on qt for kde-style notifications) broke notifications for me on KDE 3.5
20100206 23:17:33< AI0867|FOSDEM> reverting that commit fixes it
20100206 23:19:34< AI0867|FOSDEM> ilor: mordante is working on a new treeview widget and hopes to move it to the lobby tomorrow
20100206 23:20:09< ilor> AI0867|FOSDEM: not sure if that is related to the core issue of stuff jumping around
20100206 23:20:25< ilor> AI0867|FOSDEM also, how's fosdem so far? ;)
20100206 23:20:37< ilor> greek food still good? 
20100206 23:20:50< AI0867|FOSDEM> mordante isn't sure whether that's the core issue either, just a heads-up
20100206 23:20:57< AI0867|FOSDEM> and the greek's still good, yes
20100206 23:20:58< AI0867|FOSDEM> =)
20100206 23:21:05< AI0867|FOSDEM> too crowded on sunday though
20100206 23:21:22< ilor> how many wespeople turned up this year?
20100206 23:21:39< AI0867|FOSDEM> 8
20100206 23:21:54< AI0867|FOSDEM> exactly one row in the hackingroom
20100206 23:21:58< ilor> :)
20100206 23:22:00< AI0867|FOSDEM> s/sunday/saturday
20100206 23:22:26< ilor> if only not for the bloody exam on monday, I'd be there too, and we'd need another row ;p
20100206 23:23:43< ilor> nwxt year though, I'll be there :)
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