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20100227 01:18:44< Salwan> 'night everyone
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20100227 01:24:01< Gambit> I think since I named the player character Kaylan, the practice battle in the tutorial will take place at Blackwater Port.
20100227 01:24:07< Gambit> easter egg?
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20100227 03:18:57< CIA-88> ai0867 * r41393 /branches/fendrin_editor/ (35 files in 14 dirs): Remove all traces of EXPERIMENTAL
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20100227 04:40:56< CIA-88> ai0867 * r41394 /branches/fendrin_editor/src/display.cpp: Fix strict compilation
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20100227 05:13:01< AI0867> silene: calling kde${KDE_SESSION_VERSION}-config --version seems to be the 'proper' way to determine minor versions. A not-very-pretty patch to do this is located here: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/yh7dR9hQ
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20100227 05:27:06< AI0867> also, not working
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20100227 07:02:09< AI0867> silene: working version: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/yztrsb5H
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20100227 08:41:22< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20100227 09:26:58< Ivanovic> moin
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20100227 09:44:09< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=29024&start=0
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20100227 10:18:20< CIA-88> silene * r41395 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Simplified error handling. Fixed index in messages.
20100227 10:18:34< CIA-88> silene * r41396 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Removed never used argument.
20100227 10:18:44< CIA-88> silene * r41397 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Fixed function naming. Factored code a bit.
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20100227 10:45:35< CIA-88> silene * r41398 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Marked 'x' and 'y' unit attributes as useless to simplify the code a bit.
20100227 10:45:38< CIA-88> silene * r41399 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Fixed find_vacant_tile not allowing dummy units for path check.
20100227 10:56:02< CIA-88> silene * r41400 /trunk/data/lua/wml-tags.lua: Beautified error message when passing an invalid side attribute to [gold]. (Subsumes patch #1477.)
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20100227 11:32:16< Ivanovic> silene: do you have any idea what to best do regarding notifications?
20100227 11:32:39< Ivanovic> silene: kde switched with 4.4 to the freedesktop standard and thus does no longer support the hack we are using
20100227 11:32:51< Ivanovic> but it does *try* to use it since a kde version 4 is detected
20100227 11:36:17< silene> Ivanovic: so you mean kde-style notifications are only supported from kde 4.0 to kde 4.3, neither before nor after?
20100227 11:36:26< Ivanovic> silene: correct
20100227 11:36:47< Ivanovic> silene: at fosdem AI0867 checked notifications on kde 3.5.x and there the default freedesktop ones are possible
20100227 11:37:06< Ivanovic> (cf the current code check)
20100227 11:37:30< silene> do we want to support kde 4.0 to kde 4.3?
20100227 11:37:33< Ivanovic> silene: though there is *no* environment var exactly saying which kde minor version is in use
20100227 11:37:48< Ivanovic> no idea what the next batch of distros will include
20100227 11:39:00< Ivanovic> that is: the next ubuntu release will offer kde 4.3.x
20100227 11:39:30< silene> do you have kde 4.4?
20100227 11:39:36< Ivanovic> yes
20100227 11:39:40< Ivanovic> gentoo unstable...
20100227 11:40:26< silene> let me commit a small patch; if it works, it will avoid having to use the heavy hammer from AI0867
20100227 11:40:38< Ivanovic> might be that the next kubuntu version does offer kde 4.4
20100227 11:41:17< Ivanovic> i think we should either check via dbus which kde verison is there (i get an error message that there is no handler registered, so this could be a possible check)
20100227 11:41:24< Ivanovic> or we could go all for "freedesktop only"
20100227 11:43:45< CIA-88> silene * r41401 /trunk/src/game_display.cpp: Tried to recover from KDE 4.4 no longer supporting the KDE notification protocol.
20100227 11:43:55< silene> Ivanovic: could you give it a try? ^
20100227 11:44:24< Ivanovic> building
20100227 11:47:10< Ivanovic> jupp, i do get notifications now
20100227 11:47:19< Ivanovic> 20100227 11:47:00 error display: Failed to send visual notification: The name org.kde.VisualNotifications was not provided by any .service files
20100227 11:47:21< Ivanovic> 20100227 11:47:00 error display:  Retrying with the freedesktop protocol.
20100227 11:48:35< Ivanovic> now just make the error message nicer by adding "(...)by any .service files, this is normal if you are using kde >=4.4.x
20100227 11:50:18< Ivanovic> ups
20100227 11:50:27< Ivanovic> i just got the very first notification, no later ones
20100227 11:50:32< Ivanovic> so you have to change the var, too
20100227 11:50:34< Ivanovic> ;)
20100227 11:52:20< silene> Ivanovic: that's strange; you get only one notification, and no error message later?
20100227 11:52:42< Ivanovic> i get only one notification (combined with the error in the logs) and nothing at all later on
20100227 11:56:04< silene> i don't understand why; except for the first try, everything subsequent calls should behave with freedesktop notifications
20100227 11:58:27< Ivanovic> there is no error message but no notification shown either
20100227 12:00:01< Ivanovic> okay, i am setting kde_style directly to false by hand now
20100227 12:00:22< Ivanovic> might be that *some* parts of the code are still required, so we got to add some additional var or the likes
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20100227 12:01:12< silene> Ivanovic: and does it work better with setting kde_style by hand? because that's exactly what my patch does, nothing more nothing less
20100227 12:01:55< fendrin> Ivanovic: That is exactly the problem we talked at fosdem about.
20100227 12:02:21< Ivanovic> interesting
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20100227 12:02:28< Ivanovic> once the box was closed all notifications were los
20100227 12:02:38< Ivanovic> as in: it does only try to append notifications
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20100227 12:03:18< silene> Ivanovic: launch dbus-monitor while testing; it will tell us whether notifications are sent or not, that is whether the bug is in wesnoth or kde
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20100227 12:06:05< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/c60wkYJz
20100227 12:06:12< Ivanovic> that is the output of dbus monitor
20100227 12:06:41< Ivanovic> i placed several turns against 3 ai enemys and just directly quit my turn and changed the window over to the terminal
20100227 12:06:48< Ivanovic> (to make sure that notifications are sent)
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20100227 12:12:43< silene> Ivanovic: so notifications are sent; but it seems kde never told wesnoth the window was closed, so wesnoth keeps sending notifications to the closed window
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20100227 12:16:18< Ivanovic> silene: i am currently checking which parts are required to have notifications appear
20100227 12:16:26< Ivanovic> i *am* already making some progress, give me a sec
20100227 12:17:30< silene> Ivanovic: if you want to make notifications, you probably only need to comment line 1198; but i consider it a bug in kde
20100227 12:17:35< silene> +appear
20100227 12:19:23< CIA-88> caslav_ilic * r41402 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Updated localized images for Italian.
20100227 12:20:02< Ivanovic> silene: that line is still required: if (kde_style) return 0;
20100227 12:20:10< Ivanovic> the rest is only required with 4.3 and before
20100227 12:20:30< silene> Ivanovic: i know, that's why i told you commenting line 1198 was enough; and it's a bug in kde
20100227 12:21:27< Ivanovic> and i'd like to work around it till it is fixed so that there are notifications
20100227 12:22:16< silene> if you are using colibri, the bug was fixed 11 days ago it seems
20100227 12:26:26< Ivanovic> no idea
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20100227 12:26:38< Ivanovic> preparing a rather crude patch atm, please have a look at it if you are fine with it
20100227 12:30:40< Ivanovic> patch that makes notifications work again on my box: http://pastebin.com/wSg7tQug
20100227 12:31:50< Ivanovic> not too nice but working
20100227 12:34:13< Ivanovic> silene: shall i commit it or do you prefer to cleanup things?
20100227 12:34:40< silene> Ivanovic: you can commit it, but you have to understand that you are breaking for people who have a fixed kde
20100227 12:34:59< Ivanovic> silene: the question is if there *are* any
20100227 12:35:25< Ivanovic> that is: if this bug will be fixed in 4.4.1 things are fine
20100227 12:35:36< Ivanovic> but somehow i fear that this will not be the case
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20100227 12:41:51< Ivanovic> silene: will submit a kde bug report about this
20100227 12:42:25< Ivanovic> silene: can you formulate what exactly the bug is?
20100227 12:42:30< Ivanovic> will make it easier to submit the report
20100227 12:43:22< silene> Ivanovic: something like: NotificationClosed dbus message is not sent when the user closes the notification window
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20100227 13:40:34< Ivanovic> silene: please check if i forgot anything or reported something wrong... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228743
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20100227 15:45:12< YogiHH> hello
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20100227 15:45:30< mordante> servus
20100227 15:50:26< fendrin> hi YogiHH
20100227 15:54:54< boucman> hey all
20100227 15:55:00< mordante> hi boucman 
20100227 15:55:21< Gambit> shadowmaster: someone on the forums is afraid for your safety.
20100227 15:55:48< Gambit> Are you okay? :P
20100227 16:02:49< Ivanovic> hi mordante and YogiHH
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20100227 16:06:44< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
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20100227 16:17:37< fendrin> boucman: What else than calling unit.redraw() must be done to see it onboard?
20100227 16:18:04< boucman> isn't it sufficiant ?
20100227 16:18:34< boucman> there are the invalidation routine, and you should call new_animation_frame() from time to time to get it animated, but I think that's all
20100227 16:19:09< fendrin> boucman: Okay, I guess unit.redraw should be enough, but it's still calling the wrong singleton display.
20100227 16:20:26< boucman> oh, let me check...
20100227 16:21:07< boucman> i use game_display::get_singleton, so unless you changed that, it might be the problem
20100227 16:21:24< boucman> mainly in unit_frame.cpp IIRC
20100227 16:28:00< CIA-88> caslav_ilic * r41403 /trunk/ (26 files in 13 dirs): Updated translations for Serbian.
20100227 16:31:18< fendrin> boucman: Now it's segfaulting. But that is a good sign. Something I can trace down. The last 2 days have been more or less bisecting some permutations of class merges between the 3 classes involved...
20100227 16:31:57< boucman> well, if I can be of any help..
20100227 16:35:46< fendrin> boucman: Thank you, I will ask if there are concrete questions that I can define. Currently I could only ask for help with displaying the units in general.
20100227 16:36:58< boucman> fendrin: you probably have to touch unit_frame, maybe unit_animation (most likely not), and unit.cpp for the ellipse and xp bars
20100227 16:37:08< boucman> nothing else for units afaik
20100227 16:41:12< fendrin> boucman: That are very good news. I want to keep as much out of the editor as possible.
20100227 16:41:38< boucman> these are the only places I know that might use a display object
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20100227 16:51:49< fendrin> boucman: Where is the game_display singleton coming from when in editor?
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20100227 16:52:21< fendrin> I wonder why it is not a nullpointer.
20100227 16:52:24< boucman> fendrin: so far there was never any units drawn in editor, that was the whole point of separating game_display from display
20100227 16:52:36< boucman> so the unit animation engine was never called from the editor
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20100227 17:33:19< YogiHH> esr, you there?
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20100227 17:37:31< YogiHH> anyone: if i have a working local git repository, do i still need a separate svn checkout?
20100227 17:37:48< Ivanovic> no
20100227 17:39:03< fendrin> boucman: I can see them finaly. 
20100227 17:39:08 * fendrin celebrates.
20100227 17:39:13< boucman> congratulation :)
20100227 17:39:32< boucman> zookeeper: did you see the new evil altra rhynging5 provided ?
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20100227 17:39:57< fendrin> Never looked a wesnoth unit nicer.
20100227 17:40:02< boucman> héhé
20100227 17:40:06< boucman> I know that feeling
20100227 17:41:30< fendrin> Too bad that I did too much harm to all display classes. It can't be fixed again. So I need to start from scratch and redo only the needed changes.
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20100227 17:54:36< zookeeper> boucman, yeah
20100227 17:55:06< zookeeper> does it fit in the hex?
20100227 17:56:57< boucman> havn't looked yet
20100227 17:58:00< boucman> I wanted to ask how you wanted to integrate it...
20100227 17:58:00< boucman> for that one i'm not sure using a new terrain is the way to go...
20100227 17:58:00< boucman> an overlay maybe, or just store the image somewhere and provided only to WML via  a macro
20100227 18:00:59< Soliton> YogiHH: a couple of things like prop setting is not possible from git-svn i think but normally you don't, no.
20100227 18:04:40< zookeeper> boucman, well, just as a scenery item i guess?
20100227 18:05:05< boucman> agreed, not sure how these are integrated, though
20100227 18:05:24< zookeeper> look at how the braziers work, i'd imagine this should go in exactly like those
20100227 18:05:33< boucman> ok
20100227 18:07:05< zookeeper> images into items/ and then a macro in image-utils.cfg. the macro is nice for animated items, but not really useful for static images
20100227 18:07:16< boucman> ok
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20100227 18:07:56< zookeeper> now, i'm not exactly sure why i've made the brazier work using [terrain_graphics] and not [item]...
20100227 18:08:30< zookeeper> oh, right, [item] image= doesn't support animations, only halo= does, and using a halo would draw it on top of units which looks silly
20100227 18:08:45< zookeeper> if [item] image= does support animations now, then you should use that instead
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20100227 18:09:02< zookeeper> i'm not sure if that's been changed anytime recently though, i guess you'd know ;)
20100227 18:09:03< boucman> I don't think it does, but i'll look
20100227 18:10:31< Soliton> boucman: http://gna.org/bugs/?15493 maybe something for you?
20100227 18:10:47< boucman> i'll check
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20100227 18:14:22< Espreon> boucman: I get this when in the test scenario: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/kHX4VCkK
20100227 18:15:11< boucman> Espreon: so do I :P
20100227 18:15:25< Espreon> Then fix it. :D
20100227 18:15:35< boucman> i'll have a look at that too
20100227 18:15:38< Espreon> OK.
20100227 18:21:29< zookeeper> esr, so what's the deal regarding konrad's and li'sar's portraits? are you intending on moving them from unit types to single units?
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20100227 18:23:16< YogiHH> Soliton: Which protocol are you supposed to use for git? https / svn / svn+ssh?
20100227 18:25:12< Soliton> YogiHH: svn+ssh if you want to commit back, too.
20100227 18:25:54< esr> zookeeper: Oh!  I sort of thought you were going to do it.
20100227 18:32:58< zookeeper> right, well, i guess i can if you really don't feel like doing it..
20100227 18:35:30< zookeeper> i just need to know :p
20100227 18:36:13< esr> zookeeper: You may be consider me to be off fighting other fires.  I have to do a gpsd release this week.
20100227 18:36:41< zookeeper> ok
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20100227 18:46:09< fendrin> boucman: Please help me with a clean solution for my singleton problem.
20100227 18:46:32< boucman> fendrin: i'd be glad to, but i'm not sure what your problem is...
20100227 18:46:57< boucman> unit display uses game_display in trunk because displaying units is not common to game/editor
20100227 18:47:32< boucman> if you make it common, the unit related parts should move from game_display to display, and then the unit anim should use display->get_singleton
20100227 18:48:48< fendrin> currently (in trunk) the game seems to get an instance of game_display over the static game_display::get_singleton. This even worked in a editor run where no instance of game_display should be around.
20100227 18:48:58< fendrin> This is black magic for me.
20100227 18:50:08< fendrin> The object was some kind of valid (no segmentation fault) so, I guess it was in fact a display object but with a wrong vtable?
20100227 18:50:25< fendrin> Shouldn't the compiler catch this sort of things?
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20100227 18:51:10< boucman> i'm not even sure why display is cut in three nowdays, since the editor has been folded in the main game
20100227 18:51:37< boucman> my guess would be that game_display is created once and for all (it might even be created at the first call to get_singleton)
20100227 18:51:42< boucman> and stays after that
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20100227 18:53:27< fendrin> boucman: So there is a editor_display around, the singleton points into a not used game_display object, that is called from the drawing code and so no segmentation fault?
20100227 18:53:52< boucman> I don't know, that's just a guess
20100227 18:53:58< fendrin> Something there is a design error, or I am just stupid.
20100227 18:54:08< boucman> you could assert in game_display creator to backtrace how it's created
20100227 18:54:26< boucman> my guess is that it's a left over of the editor/game merging
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20100227 18:59:46< fendrin> boucman: so display will have a get_singleton that is marked virtual to allow game_display to provide a specialized one?
20100227 19:00:45< boucman> I think that's how it works, but check in the code
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20100227 19:18:53< Gambit> May I ask for WML help here? :$ It's a really quick question pertaining to my work on the tutorial.
20100227 19:19:36< boucman> zookeeper: ^^
20100227 19:20:38< Gambit> zookeeper: When I use multiple [terrain] tags in a row it seems that only the last one executes. Bug?
20100227 19:20:57< boucman> Espreon: about the fire in test scenario
20100227 19:21:04< Espreon> Yes?
20100227 19:21:05< Gambit> I want  to flash all the village types in a row just to show the player that there are different ones.
20100227 19:21:27< boucman> the error is there to remind someone of a missing feature (animations in [item]image=)
20100227 19:21:39< Espreon> Ah.
20100227 19:21:46< boucman> so i'd rather leave it here for the moment for whoever put it there
20100227 19:22:41< boucman> who maintains DiD ?
20100227 19:23:39< Espreon> Noöne knows...
20100227 19:23:59< boucman> ok
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20100227 19:24:27< Espreon> It is probably either zookeeper or Mythological...
20100227 19:24:38< Espreon> boucman: ^
20100227 19:27:12< zookeeper> me
20100227 19:27:25 * zookeeper reads
20100227 19:28:22< zookeeper> Gambit, yes, that'd be a bug, but i've never encountered that...post a bug report if you're sure
20100227 19:28:37< boucman> zookeeper: I was looking at http://gna.org/bugs/?15493  
20100227 19:28:50< boucman> I can solve it or you can, as you wish
20100227 19:28:59< zookeeper> Gambit, err, if you're just talking about whether the terrain change shows in a cutscene, then yes, that doesn't really surprise me
20100227 19:30:41< zookeeper> boucman, feel free to handle it...although i'd very much prefer if the core necro recruit anims were fixed too
20100227 19:31:08< zookeeper> that is, currently the adept has no anim and the rest use the same anim for undead and non-undead recruits
20100227 19:31:55< boucman> zookeeper: ok, let's share the work
20100227 19:32:02< boucman> I fix mainline, you fix DiD ;)
20100227 19:32:03< zookeeper> (the magic haloes should not be used for non-undead recruits IMO)
20100227 19:32:06< zookeeper> sure, fine
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20100227 19:39:17 * zookeeper waits until core is fixed before copypasting the code to DiD
20100227 19:39:25< boucman> fair enough
20100227 19:39:41< boucman> is there a trivial way to SuF an undead unit ?
20100227 19:40:02< zookeeper> race= ?
20100227 19:40:22< boucman> thx
20100227 19:40:54< fendrin> boucman: Undead are also resistant to poison, you can filter for that trait, I think it is called undead or nonliving or so.
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20100227 19:42:16< boucman> fendrin: race=undead is the most reliable for what I want to do
20100227 19:43:11< fendrin> boucman: I thought so. The poison thing is only a good filter if you are after the game mechanism.
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20100227 19:57:40< CIA-88> zookeeper * r41404 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/ (33 files in 2 dirs): Moved the portrait definitions of Konrad and Li'sar from the unit types to their single units.
20100227 20:00:30< boucman> esr: around ?
20100227 20:03:59< boucman> silene: IIRC you were also in the effort to uniformise the names used for unit filters
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20100227 20:12:30< CIA-88> boucman * r41405 /trunk/data/core/units/undead/ (5 files): only play magical recruit animation when recruiting an undead unit. Add a recruiting animation to the dark adept
20100227 20:15:43< silene> boucman: no, it doesn't ring a bell, is there even something to uniformize?
20100227 20:16:19< boucman> there was at some point... and I'd like to ask a question to those who did it...
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20100227 20:36:04< boucman> zookeeper: the mausoleum probably belongs to images/scenery rather than images/tools
20100227 20:36:18< boucman> however I can't find the corresponding macro file... is there any ?
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20100227 21:10:21< zookeeper> boucman, scenery or items, whichever...and as i said, the brazier macro is in image-utils.cfg
20100227 21:10:32< boucman> thx
20100227 21:19:53< CIA-88> ai0867 * r41406 /trunk/data/core/units/undead/ (5 files): Reindent the necromancer's recruit anim filters
20100227 21:20:11< boucman> AI0867: sorry about that
20100227 21:20:34< CIA-88> jorda * r41407 /trunk/ (changelog po/wesnoth-aoi/ca.po): Update Catalan translation
20100227 21:21:59< AI0867> boucman: I do the opposite thing to the C++ from time to time
20100227 21:22:57< Ivanovic> ettin: you forgot the players_changelog!
20100227 21:23:01< Ivanovic> ;=
20100227 21:23:08< Ivanovic> s/;=/;)
20100227 21:24:03< ettin> Ivanovic: ouch, sorry, it has been so long since my last commit...
20100227 21:24:13< Ivanovic> :)
20100227 21:24:19< Ivanovic> cool to see you back active
20100227 21:25:13< ettin> Ivanovic: actually, someone else sent it, I just made the final review :)
20100227 21:25:26< Ivanovic> final review is a lot more than nothing
20100227 21:25:27< Ivanovic> ;)
20100227 21:25:37< ettin> heh, right
20100227 21:28:23< CIA-88> jorda * r41408 /trunk/players_changelog: Add Catalan to list of updated languages
20100227 21:28:35< Ivanovic> once you have some free mins, could you maybe create a small list of commands required to do the manual and manpage related stuff (so that he does not have to wade through the makefiles)?
20100227 21:29:36< Espreon> mordante: Around?
20100227 21:29:46< Ivanovic> yeah, i know that mordante has no time prior to the release of 1.8, but afterwards (once he had some free days!) maybe he got some time and needs that stuff
20100227 21:31:03< ettin> Ivanovic: it isn't the first time you tell me about it, is it? ;)
20100227 21:31:11< ettin> Ivanovic: believe it or not, it is still in my TODO
20100227 21:31:20< Ivanovic> uhm, no, it is about try 5000
20100227 21:31:38< ettin> ;)
20100227 21:31:40< Ivanovic> maybe 6000, not sure, somewhere close to 1780 i lost my count
20100227 21:31:41< Ivanovic> ;)
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20100227 21:34:37< mordante> Espreon, yes
20100227 21:34:55< Espreon> mordante: Are you aware that some drop-down lists are draggable?
20100227 21:35:06 * mordante knows about long TODO lists ;-)
20100227 21:35:16< mordante> Espreon, yes why?
20100227 21:35:48< Espreon> Shouldn't that not be possible?
20100227 21:36:45< mordante> you mean whether that should be impossible?
20100227 21:37:14< Espreon> Well, I would think that that these are not supposed to be draggable.
20100227 21:37:49< mordante> suokko added this feature for some list on gui1 only
20100227 21:38:02< Espreon> Ah.
20100227 21:38:18< Ivanovic> intentionally or as side effect?
20100227 21:38:19< Ivanovic> ^^
20100227 21:38:23< mordante> not sure whether or not it will be added to gui2
20100227 21:38:33< mordante> Ivanovic, intentionally
20100227 21:39:02< mordante> miracles happen ;-)
20100227 21:39:07< Ivanovic> hehehe
20100227 21:39:15< fendrin> boucman: Tried something but unit is no longer shown. I guess I get the wrong instance.
20100227 21:40:34< Espreon> mordante: The draggable list of which I speak is the list that determines what will control a certain side.
20100227 21:40:59< mordante> I think it's the only one and that dialog is indeed gui1
20100227 21:41:15< Espreon> Ah.
20100227 21:43:23< CIA-88> fendrin * r41409 /branches/fendrin_editor/ (19 files in 5 dirs): Cleaned up the display masacre. Units are not shown again.
20100227 22:00:49< Soliton> Espreon: it's so you can swap sides.
20100227 22:03:24< Espreon> Soliton: Oh, cool.
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20100227 22:44:44 * boucman has real trouble with the mausoleum
20100227 22:45:15< mordante> I'm off night
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20100227 22:46:07< shadowmaster> "mausoleum"?
20100227 22:46:31< shadowmaster> you are trying to store my corpse there or what? :)
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20100227 22:48:11< Espreon> No, that is clearly for The Crypt. ;)
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20100227 22:50:01< boucman> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=411556#p411556
20100227 22:50:28< boucman> unfortunately rhyging5 is very bad at keeping it in 72x72 limit
20100227 22:50:36< boucman> and I have very serious problems integrating
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20100227 22:52:16< Espreon> Lift the evil limit...
20100227 22:53:09< shadowmaster> Espreon: those limits are there to allow optimizations IIRC
20100227 22:53:39< Espreon> We children and our optimizations...
20100227 22:54:08< Blarumyrran> Why are all the village images gigantic then?
20100227 22:54:33< Blarumyrran> most would probably fit 72*72
20100227 22:54:51< esr> boucman: What's up?
20100227 22:54:52< boucman> afaik all villages fit in 72x72
20100227 22:55:09< Blarumyrran> boucman, I see them 180*216
20100227 22:55:21< boucman> moreover, afaik no animated terrain are out of 72x72 (if some do, i'm very interested)
20100227 22:55:22< Blarumyrran> mostly just transparent nothingness
20100227 22:55:49< boucman> esr: you were there when we uniformized the unit filter names, wern't you ?
20100227 22:56:02< boucman> Blarumyrran: animated ?
20100227 22:56:24< shadowmaster> I'v
20100227 22:56:27< shadowmaster> er
20100227 22:56:36< Blarumyrran> nop, the animations are in a separate halo
20100227 22:56:41< Blarumyrran> for the drake villages at least
20100227 22:56:59< Blarumyrran> Ah no they aren't.
20100227 22:57:17< Blarumyrran> Look at drake villages. drake2-1, drake2-2, drake2-3
20100227 22:57:17< boucman> but iirc drake villages do fit
20100227 22:57:40< Blarumyrran> ... okay, but why are they 180*216?
20100227 22:58:57< boucman> Blarumyrran: looking into it, they seem indeed to match what I want
20100227 23:05:53< shadowmaster> gods
20100227 23:06:12< shadowmaster> I feel like I'm in a boat or something.
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20100227 23:09:29< AI0867> shadowmaster: the quake gave you sealegs?
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20100227 23:12:24< grzywa> almost like a good joke ;>
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20100227 23:16:17< shadowmaster> AI0867: no, but the tremors continue *continuously* and with the same movement apptetern
20100227 23:16:24< shadowmaster> pattern
20100227 23:16:41< grzywacz> ;s
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20100227 23:25:18< shadowmaster> strong tremors continue
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20100227 23:28:03< crimson_penguin> boucman: so did that guy get the link?
20100227 23:28:33< shadowmaster> just after I said "pattern" everything moved and electricity went out for 1 second. Now there was a stronger one a few seconds ago 
20100227 23:28:36< boucman> crimson_penguin: yes, he thanked and said he would try it, non news since...
20100227 23:28:44< crimson_penguin> k
20100227 23:28:50< boucman> i'll keep you posted, but since he didn't answer my guess is that it's working
20100227 23:28:54< boucman> thx a lot for your help
20100227 23:29:47< crimson_penguin> no problem
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20100227 23:40:38< boucman> zookeeper: my current macro http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/gbp9NMAa
20100227 23:40:52< boucman> i find it horribly ugly, but I can't find a way to make it better
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20100227 23:53:58< zookeeper> boucman, why wasn't the brazier approach good enough?
20100227 23:56:32< boucman> because the brazier fits in one hex, I need this trick to tell the engine that the image is larger than hex
20100227 23:56:51< zookeeper> ah, ok
20100227 23:56:58< zookeeper> does it look like it could easily be made to fix in the hex though?
20100227 23:57:09< fendrin> hi Crab_
20100227 23:57:12< boucman> not without a redraw
20100227 23:57:17< Crab_> hi fendrin
20100227 23:57:28< boucman> the image itself is larger than 72x72, not just the frame
20100227 23:57:58< zookeeper> oh, ok
20100227 23:57:59< zookeeper> hmmh
20100227 23:58:15< zookeeper> i'm pretty sure you don't need two [terrain_graphics] even in that case
20100227 23:58:45< boucman> ok, bed time for me, we'll discuss it tomorow
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20100227 23:58:53< zookeeper> all right
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