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20100226 01:33:24< Gambit> wesbot: seen the latest episode of house?
20100226 01:33:28< Gambit> darnit
20100226 01:33:45< shadowmaster> *ahem*
20100226 01:33:55< Gambit> :-/
20100226 01:34:51< Gambit> It was a really good episode!
20100226 01:35:42< Gambit> It'd be neat if you could combine websot with Zarel's QuestionMark
20100226 01:35:44< Espreon> We see your point; however, there is a problem...
20100226 01:35:47< Gambit> though utterly pointless.
20100226 01:36:00< Gambit> ?
20100226 01:36:02< Zarel> ??
20100226 01:36:06< Espreon> Noöne cares.
20100226 01:36:13< Zarel> Gambit: wtf wtf wtf
20100226 01:36:19< Gambit> What?
20100226 01:36:22< Zarel> Where have you heard of QMark? o_O
20100226 01:36:34< Gambit> Because after you found out my IP with the smiley trick I browsed your site
20100226 01:36:46< Gambit> and talked to QuestionMark for a good 15-20 minutes
20100226 01:36:56< Gambit> Hilarious web page.
20100226 01:37:13< Zarel> :)
20100226 01:37:18< Gambit> Though he frequently contradicts himself. |-)
20100226 01:37:22< shadowmaster> Gambit: I know your IP too.
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20100226 01:37:32< shadowmaster> and I only had to look at your whois: ~Gambit@pa-67-234-116-244.dhcp.embarqhsd.net
20100226 01:37:38< Zarel> Gambit: I know your MOM'S IP :O :O :O
20100226 01:37:50< Gambit> :-/
20100226 01:37:56< shadowmaster> so it's 67.234.116.244
20100226 01:38:07< Zarel> Maybe it's a trap!
20100226 01:38:09< shadowmaster> simple, huh? Now run, the crackers will get you
20100226 01:38:20< Zarel> Gambit: Want to get a netmask?
20100226 01:38:25< Zarel> hostmask*
20100226 01:38:27< Gambit> Yes and occasionally if you go to 67.234.116.244/AnimalSanctuary/index.php
20100226 01:38:28< Zarel> It'll hide your IP
20100226 01:38:31< Gambit> you'll find a website :O
20100226 01:38:33< shadowmaster> you mean cloak, not hostmask, Zarel 
20100226 01:38:39< Zarel> Yeah, that.
20100226 01:38:42< shadowmaster> people still call them hostmasks, but they are not hostmasks
20100226 01:38:43< Zarel> I'm bad with vocabulary.
20100226 01:39:09< shadowmaster> Gambit isn't identified so he couldn't anyway
20100226 01:39:13< Blarumyrran> Zarel, that's cheap
20100226 01:39:24< Blarumyrran> http://pastebin.com/eRch2ncP
20100226 01:39:26< Zarel> Blarumyrran: What is?
20100226 01:39:42< Zarel> Blarumyrran: ...how'd you find that?
20100226 01:39:57< Blarumyrran> googled qmark zarel
20100226 01:40:11< Gambit> wait so there's actually nothing going on :O
20100226 01:40:13< Gambit> LOL
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20100226 01:40:25< shadowmaster> :D
20100226 01:40:28< Zarel> Blarumyrran: But how'd you find the source?
20100226 01:40:48< Zarel> Or at least a portion thereof.
20100226 01:40:54< Blarumyrran> http://aesoft.org/zarel/ was the first link that came up
20100226 01:40:58< Gambit> I can't identify myself either because someone stole mah name
20100226 01:41:13< shadowmaster> Gambit: you, nobody did
20100226 01:41:15< shadowmaster> *no
20100226 01:41:20< Zarel> Blarumyrran: Oh, man, that's a REALLY old version written in Java
20100226 01:41:22< Gambit> ?
20100226 01:41:27< Zarel> I should delete it.
20100226 01:41:33< Zarel> Or move it into secret.
20100226 01:41:45< Zarel> http://aesoft.org/qmark/index2.php <- Latest QMark
20100226 01:41:46< shadowmaster> Gambit: what do you mean by "stole"?
20100226 01:41:54< Gambit> I always get something from nickserv that it's registered
20100226 01:42:06< Zarel> http://aesoft.org/qmark/asdfparse.txt <- QMark latest response file
20100226 01:42:11< shadowmaster> of course it is, not by you. That's not your fault or anyone else's.
20100226 01:43:31< shadowmaster> you could always register a different nickname.
20100226 01:43:44< Zarel> lol yeah right
20100226 01:44:03< shadowmaster> right now, that guy could log into the network and kill you
20100226 01:44:08< Zarel> I think he could appeal to FreeNode - if other-Gambit hasn't logged in for a while, I think he might be able to take it over.
20100226 01:44:17< Zarel> HE COULD KILL YOU, GAMBIT :O :O :O
20100226 01:44:28< Zarel> KILL YOU :O :O :O
20100226 01:44:29< Blarumyrran> He knows your IP!
20100226 01:44:34< Gambit> And when I send nickserve a random password
20100226 01:44:35< Blarumyrran> He knows where you live!
20100226 01:44:41< Gambit> it says invalid password for user CometStyles
20100226 01:44:57< Zarel> So it's one of CometStyles's alternate accounts.
20100226 01:45:03< Blarumyrran> Strange
20100226 01:45:12< shadowmaster_> *nicks, not accounts
20100226 01:45:12< Zarel> Gambit: You can have one of my alternate accounts. :P
20100226 01:45:17< Blarumyrran> when I send nickserv a random password, it also says it's invalid
20100226 01:45:26< Zarel> I'll give you Zarel|laptop, if you promise not to soil the name of Zarel. :P
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20100226 01:45:30< shadowmaster_> Gambit: if you want you can join #freenode and ask the staff whether this nick can be dropped
20100226 01:45:45< Gambit> I just wanted to see what it would do with a bad pass Blaru :)
20100226 01:46:24< Zarel> When I send nickserv a random password, it tells me I'm already identified
20100226 01:46:49< Gambit> also Zarel
20100226 01:46:56< Gambit> "Howdy" is not on QMarks argument list
20100226 01:49:01< Gambit> lol "You've been reading Bill Gate's guide to answering questions haven't you?" "Yes."
20100226 01:52:14< Gambit> wesbot: hug that_strange_dude_in_the_corner
20100226 01:52:15 * wesbot hugs that_strange_dude_in_the_corner
20100226 01:53:37< Blarumyrran>  /parse huh hint is not very useful :P
20100226 01:56:34< Blarumyrran> oh nevermind i'm an idiot.
20100226 01:57:57< Gambit> What does shikadibot do?
20100226 01:58:16< shadowmaster> it serves #wesnoth-umc-dev, basically.
20100226 01:58:36< Gambit> Meh I need a command list :(
20100226 01:58:43< shadowmaster> /msg shikadibot help
20100226 01:59:09< Gambit> shikadibot: rtfm
20100226 01:59:33< shadowmaster> never mind. It's outdated. The perl source is the documentation nowadays
20100226 02:00:11< shadowmaster> and if you are going to annoy the bots, preferably do so by PM if you value your ability to speak on the channel.
20100226 02:00:20< Gambit> sorry :$
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20100226 02:06:51< Gambit> it bit me D:
20100226 02:07:15< Gambit> Is that an automated thing or did you make her do that?
20100226 02:07:22< shadowmaster> eh, maybe it's developing sentience. It's been running for very long. *shrug*
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20100226 02:08:06< marko-_-> hello
20100226 02:08:15< marko-_-> can someone help me how to host a network game
20100226 02:08:17< marko-_-> i can't find the file
20100226 02:08:22< marko-_-> the server binary
20100226 02:08:27< shadowmaster> marko-_-: what platform?
20100226 02:08:28< Gambit> wesnothd.exe
20100226 02:08:34< marko-_-> ubuntu
20100226 02:08:41< shadowmaster> marko-_-: /usr/bin/wesnothd
20100226 02:08:57< marko-_-> the file doesn't exit
20100226 02:08:59< shadowmaster> hm, I think. alternatively it may be in /usr/games/wesnothd, but I don't think so...
20100226 02:09:05< marko-_-> i already figured it would be something with wesnoth*
20100226 02:09:21< marko-_-> yep it's in /games
20100226 02:09:22< marko-_-> thank
20100226 02:09:24< marko-_-> s
20100226 02:09:31< shadowmaster> hm, okay, no problem :)
20100226 02:09:52< marko-_-> well
20100226 02:09:57< marko-_-> i get the error "could not connect to host"
20100226 02:10:08< Gambit> localhost?
20100226 02:10:18< marko-_-> ?
20100226 02:10:26< marko-_-> it just says "could not connect to host"
20100226 02:10:32< marko-_-> do i have to run it as root?
20100226 02:10:41< shadowmaster> no
20100226 02:11:00< shadowmaster> marko-_-: it says that after using the "Host network game" in the MP menu?
20100226 02:11:04< marko-_-> yep
20100226 02:11:10< Zarel> Blarumyrran: http://aesoft.org/qmark/index2.php?debug
20100226 02:11:22< Zarel> If you want to see the QM engine AT WORK :O :O :O
20100226 02:12:07< marko-_-> shadowmaster
20100226 02:13:03< Blarumyrran> I had a bot, done for homework, once
20100226 02:13:08< marko-_-> hm
20100226 02:13:12< marko-_-> and the sound isn't working
20100226 02:13:15< shadowmaster> marko-_-: hm, I'm not good with this network. Maybe Soliton could know what could be wrong at your side.
20100226 02:13:17< marko-_-> just in the beginning then it dies
20100226 02:13:19< Gambit> run wesnothd then choose connect to server, then type in localhost?
20100226 02:13:24< shadowmaster> *network stuff
20100226 02:13:33< Blarumyrran> I started making it a day before the deadline though, and its GUI would crash unexpectedly so that's what I spent most of my time on
20100226 02:15:17< shadowmaster> marko-_-: yeah, what happens if you run wesnothd manually and connect to localhost?
20100226 02:28:09 * shadowmaster food
20100226 02:32:25< Zarel> Q: who isn't god? 
20100226 02:32:25< Zarel> A: Jesus.
20100226 02:32:32< Zarel> ROFL, the RNG got really unlucky.
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20100226 02:34:08< Blarumyrran> What do you do with a B.A. in English? -> Your mother; but he didn't like that :/
20100226 02:36:59< Zarel> Blarumyrran: Try again?
20100226 02:37:06< Zarel> I fixed it in the meantime.
20100226 02:37:18< Zarel> "in the meantime" == "just now"
20100226 02:37:25< Blarumyrran> :)
20100226 02:38:18< Blarumyrran> Was there meant to be some other answer to it too?
20100226 02:38:20< Zarel> I should really replace that with either a better joke, or a worse joke.
20100226 02:38:31< Zarel> Yeah, the original one only accepted "your mom"
20100226 02:38:39< Blarumyrran> Oh damn, I was close
20100226 02:39:15< Zarel> I also fixed "What do you do with a B.A. in English?" so it gives a hint.
20100226 02:39:36< Blarumyrran> I saw the one about "nothing"
20100226 02:39:58< Zarel> http://aesoft.org/qmark/index2.php?debug&question=What%20do%20you%20do%20with%20a%20B.A.%20in%20English?
20100226 02:40:23< Zarel> Yeah, it's been playtested quite a bit, so it has hints for good guesses.
20100226 02:40:33< Zarel> You wouldn't imagine the number of people who have trouble with "Cheese"
20100226 02:40:50< Zarel> There were people who guessed ":)" (smiling for a camera)
20100226 02:41:02< Zarel> And, _man_, that was creative.
20100226 02:41:24< Blarumyrran> Yep
20100226 02:41:49< Zarel> It gives similar hints for "Get a new degree", "Get a better degree", "Get a job at McDonalds", "Be poor", and a few others
20100226 02:42:03< Blarumyrran> For cheese the hint is outright the answer, that might not be good
20100226 02:44:01< Zarel> There are a TON of hints for West Timor
20100226 02:44:19< Zarel> Well, okay, only two of them.
20100226 02:44:37< Blarumyrran> Yeah, but after you read them it's about the same as lincoln's killer
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20100226 02:47:22< Gambit> a 2 minute sleep timer :|
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20100226 02:57:51< Gambit> lol babies come from hawaii
20100226 02:58:39< Gambit> Zarel were you really bored one day?
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20100226 02:58:51< Zarel> Gambit: Why do you ask?
20100226 02:59:08< Gambit> Because this seems like the typo of thing a bored person would make.
20100226 02:59:23< Gambit> *type
20100226 02:59:41< Zarel> Heh, no.
20100226 02:59:53< Zarel> I was 13 years old, and I thought making an AI would be AWESOME
20100226 03:00:05< Zarel> Sadly, the research grants did not start rolling is, as I had anticipated. :(
20100226 03:01:06< Gambit> lol
20100226 03:01:15< Gambit> It would make a great aimbot
20100226 03:02:03< Gambit> I have to write a simple AI soon in Alice for a homework assignment.
20100226 03:02:06< Zarel> I think it would suck at aiming in an FPS?
20100226 03:02:15< Zarel> Or do you mean, like, an AIM bot?
20100226 03:02:19< Gambit> Yes :P
20100226 03:02:26< Zarel> It already is; add AIM screenname: QMark AI
20100226 03:02:51< Gambit> offline :(
20100226 03:02:54< Zarel> Or: Gtalk: qmark@bot.im, MSN: qmarkai@hotmail.com, Yahoo: QMarkAI
20100226 03:04:19< Gambit> gtalk is working
20100226 03:04:50< Blarumyrran> 13 years old, that's quite an achievement
20100226 03:05:27< Zarel> Blarumyrran: I thought so, too!
20100226 03:05:37< Zarel> So I was distressed at my lack of grant money. :(
20100226 03:05:43< Zarel> My friends liked it, though. :)
20100226 03:05:43< Gambit> It's actually a ps3 trophy, but I digress.
20100226 03:06:25< Gambit> What's it written in?
20100226 03:06:31< Gambit> I know it's gotta have AJAX there
20100226 03:06:42< Gambit> oh duh php -_-
20100226 03:07:25< Zarel> :P
20100226 03:07:36< Zarel> When I was 13, I wrote it in TI-BASIC, actually.
20100226 03:07:44< Zarel> I ported it to Java when I was 14.
20100226 03:07:55< Zarel> I think I ported it to PHP when I was 15.
20100226 03:08:30< Zarel> By then, I split the parse file out.
20100226 03:08:32< Zarel> Nice thing about the parse file is that you only had to port the parser.
20100226 03:08:56< Gambit> Next up; coldfusion!
20100226 03:09:11< Zarel> Porting Java -> PHP isn't that hard, actually - most of it involved adding $ everywhere. ;)
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20100226 03:09:49< Gambit> No wait
20100226 03:09:53< Gambit> WML :D
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20100226 03:12:04< Gambit> Does aesoft do coldfusion hosting?
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20100226 03:12:50< Zarel> Gambit: I dunno, AEsoft is a staff account at novahost.org; check for yourself
20100226 03:13:08< Gambit> I thought you owned it. :$
20100226 03:14:00< Zarel> "Staff" and "own" have pretty much the same thing. :P
20100226 03:14:16< Zarel> To be precise, I co-own it.
20100226 03:15:28< Gambit> Wait; their hosting is free?
20100226 03:15:53< Gambit> sweet
20100226 03:17:31< Zarel> Yes, you didn't know I co-operated a free hosting site? o_O
20100226 03:17:40< Zarel> Free + no ads, too.
20100226 03:18:10< Zarel> It's more of a charity operation
20100226 03:19:26< Zarel> "i got it from the INTERNET"
20100226 03:19:35< Zarel> Oh, man, I didn't know anyone actually talked like that.
20100226 03:19:42< Zarel> (He wasn't being sarcastic)
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20100226 03:20:42< Gambit> No mdb support though.
20100226 03:20:50 * Gambit secretly despises mysql
20100226 03:21:21< shadowmaster> hey, mysql runs wesnoth.org
20100226 03:21:24< shadowmaster> so don't despise it
20100226 03:22:48 * Gambit despises it slightly less
20100226 03:28:13< Zarel> mdb?
20100226 03:28:29 * Zarel is currently a fan of Postgres
20100226 03:28:44< Zarel> Although MySQL is overengineering, for most of its purposes
20100226 03:31:02< Gambit> old style ms access was .mdb
20100226 03:31:20< Gambit> new style is .mdbx but that has even less support than .mdb
20100226 03:32:33< Zarel> Gambit: wtf wtf wtf
20100226 03:32:40< Zarel> Why would you _ever_ use Access for _anything_?
20100226 03:32:57< Gambit> because it's very easy to create databases in
20100226 03:33:10< Gambit> And it can import spreadsheets
20100226 03:33:58 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20100226 03:35:21< Zarel> shadowmaster: What do you think of http://aesoft.org/zarel/persist.lib.phps
20100226 03:36:01< Zarel> It's an easy-to-use library that's better than MySQL for some purposes (high read/write ratio)
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20100226 03:38:18< Gambit> Espreon: Dislike ms access?
20100226 03:38:32< Espreon> Sure, hwȳ not?
20100226 03:38:38< shadowmaster> Gambit: I think he dislikes anything that won't run on Linux natively
20100226 03:38:57< Gambit> Well there's openoffice
20100226 03:39:08< shadowmaster> weren't you talking about Microsoft Access?
20100226 03:39:13< Gambit> Yes
20100226 03:39:54< Gambit> OpenOffice Base can read/write .mdb files
20100226 03:39:57 * shadowmaster raises eyebrow
20100226 03:41:03< Espreon> Really now?
20100226 03:41:35< Espreon> Since hwænne?
20100226 03:47:09< Blarumyrran> Zarel, were you serious about the free hosting part?
20100226 03:51:58< Gambit> they're not accepting new free clients at this time
20100226 03:56:24< Gambit> Espreon: Since the software was written?
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20100226 03:57:49< Espreon> Uh huh... I see...
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20100226 04:00:49< Gambit> I'm supposed to be tutoring kids in math, but they keep disappearing halfway through the problems.
20100226 04:00:58< Gambit> They stop responding for a few minutes and then poof they're logged out.
20100226 04:01:16< Espreon> That is because noöne wants to tolerate math.®
20100226 04:01:18< Gambit> Anyone need pre-algebra help? :)
20100226 04:01:34< Gambit> Or algebra 1 or geometry.
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20100226 04:50:21< ancestral> So Blueblaze, your Conquest mod has grown a life of its own it seems
20100226 04:50:44< ancestral> Being its father, how does it feel to see your baby walking about and all grown up now?
20100226 04:53:20< Blueblaze> I didn't know it grew up
20100226 04:53:22< Blueblaze> Please tell me more
20100226 04:53:49< ancestral> Nah just go to the forums
20100226 04:54:02< ancestral> (I haven't played in almost that long, but I prowl the forums)
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20100226 05:11:46< Gambit> night 'noth
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20100226 05:12:40< ancestral> Blueblaze: Oh alright I give you a link
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20100226 05:13:21< ancestral> Blueblaze: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28825 read the first post
20100226 05:13:35< ancestral> 'Course others have modified what you put together
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20100226 08:12:55< DragonSlayerX> Hai
20100226 08:15:26< DragonSlayerX> Would anyone be willing to show me how to create a simple era? I'm only wanting to rip most of the units out of default, Only leaving 2 factions with 2 units each, And the tutorial on the website is outdated.
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20100226 08:20:05< ancestral> DragonSlayerX: The forums are probably going to be your best bet, or
20100226 08:20:24< ancestral> Better yet, download an era and open it up in a text editor
20100226 08:21:24< ancestral> As far as the tutorial goes, are you referring to the wiki?
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20100226 08:21:35< DragonSlayerX> I tried the latter, And right now I'm a bit too tired to try to decipher that, Which is how i learned how to make an era before, I'll go search the forums, Thanks though
20100226 08:22:15< ancestral> :) Sorry couldn't be of more help… were I a bit more awake I'd PM ya and offer to help
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20100226 08:24:45< DragonSlayerX> Yeah, I'm just trying to make one faction with peasants and a seargent for leader, And the other with walking corpses, and a soulless for a leader
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20100226 08:31:31< Soliton> just checkout data/eras.cfg and data/factions/* it's pretty simple.
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20100226 08:48:09< DragonSlayerX> Thanks, soliton, I guess I just needed a nudge in the right direction twords what to look for to learn by myself
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20100226 09:09:02< DragonSlayerX> Alright, Erm.....I've made the era....But it only partially works, I directly changed the undead and loyalist eras to change their name, ID, Their leaders, What will be picked if they pick random leader, And their recruits, But.
20100226 09:09:54< DragonSlayerX> I'm still getting the choice to pick dark sorcerer for the undead and leuitenant for the loyalists, And it's not letting me chose the changed recruits
20100226 09:09:57< DragonSlayerX> Choose*
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20100226 17:26:48< Gambit> does the MP port of LoW require that all participants start with --debug or just the host?
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20100226 18:04:46< MikeJB> Ken_Oh: You're alive!
20100226 18:05:51< MikeJB> Ken_Oh: Haven't run into you in a while... Anything new?
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20100226 18:09:04< MikeJB> Bah, brb in about 30-45 minutes.
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20100226 18:46:41< Ken_Oh> hey
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