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20100228 01:22:09< Gambit> Wow that one (Gir) had automated change back.
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20100228 01:32:13< shadowmaster> Gambit: no, that's impossible
20100228 01:32:25< Gambit> It said I had 30 seconds
20100228 01:32:38< shadowmaster> but you changed your nick back to Gambit yourself, didn't you?
20100228 01:32:42< Gambit> Yes
20100228 01:32:51< Gambit> Fearing some sort of divine retribution
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20100228 01:33:07< shadowmaster> you'd just been renamed to Guest###### or similar
20100228 01:33:08< Gir> Okay I'll let the 30 seconds tick down
20100228 01:33:14< Gir> oh nevermind then
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20100228 01:46:36< kallepersson> shadowmaster: awesome,awesome work on Invasion of the Unknown 
20100228 01:46:47< kallepersson> just wanted to say that
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20100228 03:15:41< Gambit> Lol at DM. I wish you could pay your enemies to get lost in all the campaigns XD
20100228 03:16:23 * Gambit had more than enough gold on account of only doing 1-2 rounds of recruiting on previous scenarios.
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20100228 04:14:25< Gambit> night noth
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20100228 09:06:00< Ivanovic> moin
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20100228 13:13:41< FireFly> I just installed wesnoth, and it seems the buttons in the main menu aren't working... is that a probem other people have had? I can't seem to find anything on google
20100228 13:14:15< Soliton> downgrade libsdl.
20100228 13:14:16< sevis> FireFly, which version of SDL are you using?
20100228 13:14:35< FireFly> 1.2.14 it seems
20100228 13:14:47< sevis> OS?
20100228 13:14:50< FireFly> Arch Linux
20100228 13:15:21< sevis> Yeha, 1.2.14 doesn't work, 1.2.13-r1 should be good.
20100228 13:15:31< FireFly> Okay, I'll try it ;)
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20100228 14:33:42< SekoIdiootti> First time in my life, I used http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_annoyed.gif in the forums. :O Because no one had commented anything about my sprites anymore... And the thread has become like discussion of shading.. And Blarumyrran left.
20100228 14:33:52< SekoIdiootti> ...why did I say that last sentene?
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20100228 14:41:34< Sacho> Perhaps because Blarumyrran left.
20100228 14:41:50< SekoIdiootti> lol, yeah.
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20100228 14:41:58< Sacho> which thread?
20100228 14:41:58< SekoIdiootti> but it's kinda weird somehow.
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20100228 14:42:09< SekoIdiootti> my sprite thread. (I'm woodmouse in the forums)
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20100228 15:35:00< Gambit> My name is now mine!
20100228 15:35:03< Gambit> :D
20100228 15:35:31< Gambit> Now I've just got to use it every 60 days and hope no xmen fans come around. :)
20100228 15:46:11< Gambit> SekoIdiootti: Good morning woodmouse. Or not depending on your timezone.
20100228 15:46:27< SekoIdiootti> lol. Well, it's already 16:46 here
20100228 15:46:33< SekoIdiootti> so it's not morning. xD
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20100228 15:56:34< SekoIdiootti> Gambit: I started making some mammoth ribs.
20100228 15:56:35< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100228 15:57:11< SekoIdiootti> because I saw your post
20100228 15:58:04< Gambit> lol
20100228 15:59:10< Gambit> You're mud spitter is coming along really well!
20100228 15:59:22 * Gambit hasn't read your thread in a while :$
20100228 15:59:32< SekoIdiootti> ok
20100228 16:00:27< Gambit> Actually I read it yesterday cause I wanted to see the four armed lich (with a tail). :)
20100228 16:01:38< Gambit> *your
20100228 16:01:39< SekoIdiootti> ok. GAH; I can't make a mammoth skeleton.
20100228 16:01:50< SekoIdiootti> lol, it's jsut too hard
20100228 16:01:52< SekoIdiootti> xD
20100228 16:01:56< SekoIdiootti> *just
20100228 16:02:43< SekoIdiootti> and I think the battle mage's head became too small. :0
20100228 16:02:46< SekoIdiootti> or I dunno.
20100228 16:02:56 * Gambit trying to find a pic
20100228 16:05:34< Gambit> can't find anything. maybe it's a tvtrope
20100228 16:05:46 * Gambit searches tvtropes
20100228 16:05:50< Gambit> see you in a week :P
20100228 16:06:17< SekoIdiootti> ?
20100228 16:06:40< Gambit> Once you get sucked into tvtropes website
20100228 16:06:46< Gambit> you get stuck forever
20100228 16:06:50< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100228 16:06:54< Gambit> I was just thinking the dino rib cages might be a tvtrope
20100228 16:07:08< Gambit> It's in a lot of shows, I just can't find any on google :(
20100228 16:08:09< Gambit> Yay
20100228 16:08:10< Gambit> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RibcageRidge
20100228 16:10:01< SekoIdiootti> OH, so they're like that. :| I thought it should be the pine up.
20100228 16:10:02< SekoIdiootti> *spine
20100228 16:13:17< Gambit> Yep the spine is buried
20100228 16:13:27< Gambit> though that picture has a flaw in it in that the head is right side up
20100228 16:14:13< Gambit> skull not needed really
20100228 16:14:19< Gambit> silly scene designer
20100228 16:18:29< SekoIdiootti> lol, yeah
20100228 16:19:02< SekoIdiootti> theckth my thprithe threath.
20100228 16:19:13< SekoIdiootti> [/babyspeech]
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20100228 17:19:39< Gambit> SekoIdiootti: They turn into spaghetti at the tips?
20100228 17:19:46< SekoIdiootti> ?
20100228 17:19:59< SekoIdiootti> hmmmm, lol. It does kinda look like that. :o
20100228 17:20:35< Gambit> also remember that they're sticking out of the ground, so they'd be thickest at that spot.
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20100228 18:19:47 * Gambit rubs shikadibot's tummy
20100228 18:19:47< shikadibot> *prr*
20100228 18:21:05 * Gambit crushes shikadibot
20100228 18:21:05 * shikadibot sets Gambit on fire
20100228 18:22:47 * Gambit pets shikadibot
20100228 18:22:47< shikadibot> *prr*
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20100228 18:24:47< Rhonda> Gambit: Can you take your bot addiction to a private room, please? Thanks.
20100228 18:25:08< Gambit> Sorry. I'm done. And they don't work in private :(
20100228 18:25:42< Rhonda> Then fix that, too. :)
20100228 18:26:18 * Gambit is going to try writing a Gambot in coldfusion
20100228 18:28:19< shadowmaster> don't bring it here, we have enough of them already
20100228 18:34:47< Rhonda> Rather mention what is lacking in the ones we have now in your opinion and we might add it. :)
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20100228 18:49:23< Gambit> Meh it's just something I can goof off with and learn.
20100228 18:49:35< Gambit> No coldfusion tutorials so going to try VB
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20100228 20:07:56< fran_> hello
20100228 20:08:01< Gambit> Hi
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20100228 20:08:53< fran_> i search for the healt variable for decrease 
20100228 20:09:01< fran_> heals
20100228 20:09:01< shadowmaster> fran_: hitpoints
20100228 20:09:07< shadowmaster> er, wait, heals?
20100228 20:09:13< fran_> hitpoints it s not the maximum ?
20100228 20:09:34< shadowmaster> hitpoints is the unit's current hitpoints; max_hitpoints is the maximum
20100228 20:10:22< fran_> ok  hitpoints=-5  for decrease of 5 ?
20100228 20:11:48< shadowmaster> um, no. You may want to look at the [object] documentation in http://wiki.wesnoth.org/DirectActionsWML instead, and effects in http://wiki.wesnoth.org/EffectWML
20100228 20:12:21< fran_> thanks shadowmaster
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20100228 20:17:35< fran_> ok i go to write the code
20100228 20:18:21< fran_> humm i use  vi  on x, but have a good idea for wesnoth editor scenarios ?
20100228 20:18:26< fran_> what s you use ?
20100228 20:18:45< fran_> i am not a coder
20100228 20:18:49< shadowmaster> any text editor is good, really
20100228 20:19:00< shadowmaster> there's no dedicated scenario editor
20100228 20:20:33< fran_> yes but editor for coder exist, have you a name of soft ?
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20100228 20:21:05< shadowmaster> vi is one, isn't it ;)
20100228 20:21:28< shadowmaster> I've heard good things about GNU Emacs but I use KDE's text editor, Kate
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20100228 20:22:44< fran_> ok
20100228 20:26:00< Aethaeryn> :o
20100228 20:26:01< Aethaeryn> kate?
20100228 20:26:10< shadowmaster> yes
20100228 20:26:24< Aethaeryn> well, I do know that emacs has a WML syntax hilighter
20100228 20:26:29< Aethaeryn> but I think kate does too
20100228 20:26:47< Aethaeryn> I just don't like kate because it adds two lines at the end along the lines of
20100228 20:27:01< Aethaeryn> ; kate [random letters and settings that make sense only to kate]
20100228 20:27:36< Espreon> LOL, what?
20100228 20:27:43< Espreon> No it doesn't.
20100228 20:28:05< Aethaeryn> I think it does
20100228 20:28:09< Espreon> No, it doesn't.
20100228 20:28:12< Aethaeryn> I've seen it before in a few files.
20100228 20:28:21< Espreon> Those are added manually.
20100228 20:28:27< Aethaeryn> oh
20100228 20:28:33< Aethaeryn> see? I don't know kate that well :P
20100228 20:29:03< Aethaeryn> 90% of what I do on my computer are Firefox and irssi via Terminal, and they look/work better in GNOME, so I'm a GNOME person
20100228 20:29:40< Gambit> Does anyone here have gtalk?
20100228 20:29:47< Gambit> I want to test my bot, but you can't message yourself.
20100228 20:29:48< Blarumyrran> My main memory of Kate is that it had a setting for whether you want tab or space indenting in the options menu - but changing that setting would not change it, and a setting with a bit different name did that instead
20100228 20:29:58< Aethaeryn> Gambit: gtalk as in some kind of gnome talk program or googletalk?
20100228 20:30:06< Gambit> coldfusion has no built in IRC event gateway :(
20100228 20:30:07< Gambit> google talk
20100228 20:30:39< Aethaeryn> okay, in a linux discussion, kfoo usually means kde and gfoo usually means gtk/gnome so I was a bit confused.
20100228 20:31:23< Gambit> Stupid google wants phone activation on new gmail accounts >_>
20100228 20:31:50< Blarumyrran> What is phone activation?
20100228 20:34:17< Aethaeryn> call them in?
20100228 20:34:20< Espreon> Activation of the phone?
20100228 20:34:38< Aethaeryn> wow, I should've made about 4 new gmail accounts before this rule
20100228 20:34:40< Aethaeryn> just because
20100228 20:34:55< Gambit> Ikr?!
20100228 20:35:06< Espreon> Oh, now they're bringing that back?
20100228 20:36:18< Gambit> "Preventing spam: we try to verify that real people, not robots, are creating  accounts. "
20100228 20:36:38< Gambit> gee if only google had advanced captchas that they used every 5 minutes on all their services
20100228 20:36:39< Gambit> oh wait!
20100228 20:37:08< VurtualRuler98> What if we don't have a phone?
20100228 20:37:21< Gambit> Tough noodles I guess.
20100228 20:37:34< Gambit> What's odd is this applies to users that already have other services of google on their google account
20100228 20:37:38< VurtualRuler98> Thankfully I already have a gmail account.
20100228 20:37:46< Blarumyrran> I have 4
20100228 20:37:46< VurtualRuler98> wait, what?
20100228 20:37:47< Blarumyrran> har har
20100228 20:37:53< Gambit> Same. But I need another cause you can't message yourself.
20100228 20:38:39< Gambit> They're enforcing this for new google users AND for people who already have google accounts for other services
20100228 20:38:53< Gambit> google webmaster, google analytics, sketchups 3D warehouse etc
20100228 20:39:07< Gambit> They don't need phone activation.
20100228 20:39:11< Gambit> But to add gmail to those accounts
20100228 20:39:12< Gambit> you do
20100228 20:39:24< Gambit> VurtualRuler98: Does that clear up the "wait, what?"?
20100228 20:39:36< VurtualRuler98> oh, okay
20100228 20:39:37< VurtualRuler98> phew
20100228 20:40:50< Gambit> can someone contact grickit@gmail.com and see if he sends your exact message back?
20100228 20:40:57< Gambit> not through email
20100228 20:41:00< Gambit> via google talk
20100228 20:44:14< G-Lo> Gambit: not working, you have to be a client's friend to send him messages
20100228 20:45:01< G-Lo> once done, it's working
20100228 20:45:25< Gambit> Did it return your message?
20100228 20:45:28< G-Lo> yes
20100228 20:45:38< Gambit> Cool
20100228 20:45:38< G-Lo> [20:44:55] <grickit@gmail.com> You said: hello world
20100228 20:45:42< fran_> if my scenario is bugged, i must quit and recharge wesnoth for test, have a other way ?
20100228 20:45:55< fran_> it s long time
20100228 20:46:01< Gambit> G-Lo: thanks
20100228 20:46:42< G-Lo> yw
20100228 20:46:49< Gambit> Lol on the complaint page for the new verification system they have a bubble that says "I don't want to give my phone number to google".
20100228 20:47:04< Aethaeryn> Someone seriously needs to redo Freeciv's terrain and units in Wesnoth style... Because after playing Wesnoth, Freeciv looks hideous
20100228 20:47:26< VurtualRuler98> Didn't they just go and make everyone go at once?
20100228 20:47:38< VurtualRuler98> I mean, I originally thought about putting it on my laptop for long times when I couldn't run IV.
20100228 20:47:42< Gambit> After playing anything after 1999 freeciv looks hideous
20100228 20:47:44< VurtualRuler98> now I'm not even touching that.
20100228 20:48:02< Blarumyrran> Civ 1 was prettier than freeciv
20100228 20:48:10< Blarumyrran> (in VGA at least)
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20100228 20:52:34< Gambit> Good news. People that already have gmail accounts
20100228 20:52:39< Gambit> can invite themselves to new ones
20100228 20:52:53< Gambit> but you already have to have another email to send the invite too
20100228 20:52:59< Gambit> so it gets a little confusing there I guess
20100228 20:54:10< shadowmaster> Gambit: aren't you able to create a new account with or without an existing one already?
20100228 20:54:33< Gambit> Yes but new, uninvited ones, require phone activation
20100228 20:54:51< Gambit> google does not need my phone number
20100228 20:55:44< Aethaeryn> buy an android phone and Google gets not only your phone number, but also the phone number of everyone else on your contacts
20100228 20:56:08< Aethaeryn> so if a friend of yours has Android, Google already has your phone
20100228 20:56:27< shadowmaster> obviously
20100228 20:56:43< shadowmaster> or- wait, no, not obviously
20100228 20:56:51< Aethaeryn> it syncs to your contacts in Gmail
20100228 20:57:01< Aethaeryn> which is pretty stupid, since I think I have maybe an overlap of 5 people
20100228 20:57:22< shadowmaster> I'd have an overlap of...1 person
20100228 20:57:48< shadowmaster> and I don't use "contacts" in Gmail, actually. (at least, I don't think so)
20100228 20:57:57< Aethaeryn> yeah, same.
20100228 20:58:11< Aethaeryn> in fact, I don't use email for emailing too often.
20100228 20:58:17< Aethaeryn> mostly for mailing lists and signing up for websites
20100228 20:58:34< Blarumyrran> I use emali mostly for storing files online
20100228 20:58:46< Blarumyrran> by mailing attachments to myself
20100228 20:58:48< Aethaeryn> I don't even have the need/want to store things online.
20100228 20:58:52< Gambit> lol Blaru
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20100228 20:59:07< Aethaeryn> I'd rather buy an external harddrive than have the cloud get more of my info than necessary
20100228 20:59:18< Aethaeryn> though my dad has a "storage" gmail
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20100228 21:10:03< Gambit> G-Lo: it is now at grickitbot if you want to keep it. idk if you did or not. just letting you know.
20100228 21:11:14< G-Lo> Gambit: well, i have to guess what's the use first :)
20100228 21:11:27< G-Lo> of this bot, i mean
20100228 21:12:23< Gambit> nothing atm :)
20100228 21:12:49< Gambit> Though I am... "tickled pink" that it's actually working
20100228 21:13:12< G-Lo> is it a pidgin plugin or a bot?
20100228 21:13:31< Gambit> A bot written in coldfusion
20100228 21:13:57< Gambit> The language of kings -cough-
20100228 21:14:11< G-Lo> tell this to a cpp coder :D
20100228 21:14:32< Gambit> [way] More powerful than php, written easily as html.
20100228 21:15:01< Gambit> supposedly it allows for interaction with applications, I just haven't gotten that far yet.
20100228 21:15:05< G-Lo> can't be better than ruby \o/
20100228 21:15:18< Blarumyrran> can't be better than forth /o\
20100228 21:15:24 * G-Lo frees the troll
20100228 21:15:34< Gambit> ruby is not for web pages
20100228 21:15:40< Gambit> afaik anyway
20100228 21:15:47< G-Lo> err, yes it is :)
20100228 21:15:49< Gambit> then again afaik ruby is for real life
20100228 21:15:51< Gambit> :P
20100228 21:16:06< G-Lo> ruby is all and everything
20100228 21:16:06< fran_> i create a wall of fire, unit hitpoints decrease but stay a 1 minimum, never dead, how i can dead unit ?
20100228 21:16:15< G-Lo> </troll>
20100228 21:16:46< Gambit> fran_: You'll have to use [store_unit] and variable checking after all
20100228 21:17:07< Gambit> actually you might not have to store it if you just reference $unit.hitpoints
20100228 21:17:18< Gambit> depending on the event triggering
20100228 21:17:55< Gambit> How much does the wall of fire lower their hp?
20100228 21:18:10< fran_> -15
20100228 21:18:31< fran_> it a fire jeyser in mountain
20100228 21:18:46< Gambit> So then you'd want to check [if] unit.hitpoints is greater_than_equal_to 16 and then only lower their hitpoints if it is.
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20100228 21:19:12< Blarumyrran> Gambit, he was asking the opposite
20100228 21:19:27< Gambit> ? he wants to kill them and it isn't?
20100228 21:19:28< Blarumyrran> As far as i can tell
20100228 21:19:47< Blarumyrran> Well "how can i dead unit"
20100228 21:20:06< Gambit> then [if] unit.hitpoints equal 1 [kill]x,y=$x1,$y1[/kill]
20100228 21:20:21< Blarumyrran> Gambit, that would kill a unit with 16 hp
20100228 21:20:48< fran_> ok i note this
20100228 21:21:08< Gambit> You put the if command there for if it's lower_than_equal_to 15
20100228 21:21:14< Gambit> then [else] you lower it by 15
20100228 21:21:23< Gambit> So if it is already below 15 you kill it
20100228 21:21:25< Gambit> otherwise you injure it
20100228 21:22:10< Gambit> fran_: Sorry I can't make it more understandable in IRC. I could give you some exact code on the forums if you have an account there.
20100228 21:23:13< fran_> Gambit, is good at this time i have no forum account, but i understand your idea
20100228 21:23:16< fran_> thanks
20100228 21:23:25< Gambit> no problem
20100228 21:24:25< fran_> i return to code, thanks   bye bye
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20100228 22:40:58< Gambit> shikadibot: hug wesbot
20100228 22:40:58 * shikadibot hugs wesbot
20100228 22:41:04< Gambit> wesbot: shikadibot
20100228 22:41:14< Gambit> Shikadibot was faster.
20100228 22:41:14< wesbot> Gambit: Sometimes we are fast
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20100228 22:44:49< shadowmaster> of course it was...he didn't tell wesbot what to do
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20100228 23:54:40< Gambit> darnit Sid!
20100228 23:54:44< Gambit> America lost :(
20100228 23:57:57< DDR> Lost what?
20100228 23:59:34< Blarumyrran> hockey?
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