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20100317 01:01:30< Gambit> I finished the first step in my procedural planet generator :D
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20100317 01:12:47< shadowmaster> yeah, I see, I mixed up the backports and broken recursive tree
20100317 01:12:51< shadowmaster> er.
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20100317 01:18:57< VurtualRuler98> ...planet generator?
20100317 01:19:00< VurtualRuler98> In MY wesnoth?
20100317 01:22:55< Gambit> No it's in my little bit of it. See I painted a line. There's your half.
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20100317 04:43:01< Gambit> night all
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20100317 08:58:18< rocket16> Hello fendrin, :)
20100317 08:58:26< rocket16> Made a much better guide-pdf with Lyx, Open Office and PDF-E
20100317 08:58:29< rocket16> :)
20100317 08:58:51< rocket16> Really, couldn't have been possible without your help
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20100317 10:00:35< rocket16> Hello all. Improved the Wesnoth Compiled PDF  a bit,
20100317 10:00:50< rocket16> Now with 200 pages of Information and images,
20100317 10:00:54< rocket16> :)
20100317 10:01:39< rocket16> Many people asked me about which version control to use.
20100317 10:02:02< rocket16> But, I am really a novice in this case, (Programmer myself, :) )
20100317 10:02:26< rocket16> So, do I need to include SVN or git in my Open-Source Guide?
20100317 10:05:21< rocket16> Anybody here?
20100317 10:05:32< Smar> if you need to.
20100317 10:05:40< Smar> if you should to.
20100317 10:06:26< rocket16> I just want to make it simply, which anyone can download and use,
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20100317 10:08:06< rocket16> Hello meric,
20100317 10:08:12< meric> hi rocket16?
20100317 10:08:20< rocket16> nice to meet you,
20100317 10:08:25< meric> you too :)
20100317 10:08:28< rocket16> :)
20100317 10:08:49< rocket16> So, Smar, do I simply release it via file-hosting?
20100317 10:08:59< rocket16> I mean, the Wesnoth Book,
20100317 10:10:03< rocket16> Hey sevis, are you here?
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20100317 10:10:15< rocket16> Oh no, :(
20100317 10:13:49< rocket16> So, how may I distribute the PDF?
20100317 10:14:04< rocket16> Via free file hosting and presenting the link to all?
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20100317 10:17:14< rocket16> Any help is welcome,
20100317 10:17:21< rocket16> I mean, any suggestion
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20100317 10:20:42< Smar> release it in any way you want
20100317 10:20:58< Smar> I use my own server
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20100317 11:10:46< Ivanovic> moin
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20100317 12:10:46< Smar> mion
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20100317 14:05:00< Gambit> Can anyone suggest a good open source mail client?
20100317 14:05:09< Gambit> Windows Mail decided to go and corrupt itself.
20100317 14:06:14< Smar> kmail
20100317 14:06:29< Gambit> wait nvm. I think I'll just move to full outlook since I have it.
20100317 14:06:41< Smar> kmail’s better though
20100317 14:06:51< Gambit> Smar: thanks will give that a shot if outlook is messed up too.
20100317 14:07:09< Gambit> Basically it won't hold passwords all of a sudden, and IE8 won't hold my default search provider :s
20100317 14:07:54< Ivanovic> open source mail client
20100317 14:08:06< Ivanovic> hmm, since you probably want to use it under windows i'd say "thunderbird"
20100317 14:08:15< Smar> I say kmail :P
20100317 14:08:22< Ivanovic> since i don't know how good kde programs work under windows these days
20100317 14:08:28< Smar> they do work
20100317 14:08:31< Ivanovic> though if you consider switching to linux: try kde with kmail
20100317 14:08:40< Ivanovic> Smar: that they "somehow work" i know
20100317 14:08:43< Smar> I’m not really sure kmail is ported though
20100317 14:08:44< Ivanovic> but not how good
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20100317 14:10:28< Gambit> ugh and all my mail sorting rules got broken :(
20100317 14:12:21< Gambit> Windows is falling apart.
20100317 14:12:47< Gambit> Time to start fresh soon >:[
20100317 14:14:16< Smar> yeah, paludis -i gentoo ;) 
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20100317 14:15:03< Ivanovic> Gambit: uhm, where is the news in windows falling apart?
20100317 14:15:08< Ivanovic> ain't this "by design"?
20100317 14:15:09< Ivanovic> ^^
20100317 14:15:44< Gambit> Okay "a well maintained, only one year old windows is falling apart"
20100317 14:16:16< Gambit> Smar: Do any 3D modeling on gentoo lately?
20100317 14:16:17< Smar> too many viruses or something.
20100317 14:16:28< Smar> Gambit: I’ve been busy programming
20100317 14:16:36< Gambit> I have no viruses. It all went downhill from the AMD CCC.
20100317 14:16:45< Gambit> They had an update with a bug that corrupted it.
20100317 14:16:58< Gambit> Checkdsk "fixed" it.
20100317 14:17:04< Smar> you have atleast one big virus ;)
20100317 14:17:07< Gambit> By half removing it :s
20100317 14:17:42< Gambit> Smar: Is the punchline "the operating system"?
20100317 14:18:00< Smar> yup. :P
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20100317 14:21:06< Gambit> It's more of a trojan horse then considering all the games that you it is required for.
20100317 14:21:33< Smar> well yeah
20100317 14:21:35< Smar> wine’s nice though
20100317 14:22:01< Gambit> And somehow my school's website knows what OS you have and locks out all non Windows+IE/Mac+IE requests :s
20100317 14:22:13< Smar> opera can mask you :)
20100317 14:22:16< Gambit> Wine+IE6 worked on linux.
20100317 14:22:23< Smar> so only browser mask
20100317 14:22:26< Smar> not os mask
20100317 14:22:28< Gambit> But it's IE6.
20100317 14:22:31< Gambit> blag
20100317 14:22:34< Smar> yup
20100317 14:22:36< Smar> opera can mask you
20100317 14:22:39< Gambit> Opera can pretend to be other things?
20100317 14:22:41< Smar> link me and I’ll prove x)
20100317 14:22:42< Smar> yup
20100317 14:22:47< Smar> even fx can, with plugin, afaik
20100317 14:23:27< Gambit> Well see I found a thing in firefox for changing it's "signature" or whatever, and that worked on windows, but not linux :s
20100317 14:23:45< Smar> it didn’t do it completely then
20100317 14:23:55< Smar> but erm... you should just change your school :P
20100317 14:24:11< Gambit> I guess Wine+Firefox+Signature hack would work.
20100317 14:25:10< Gambit> But after all that it's easier to just put up with windows on account of all the software (<<the main point in having a computer?)
20100317 14:25:51< Gambit> Wiping the harddrives annually isn't that big of a deal if you plan ahead for it.
20100317 14:28:21< Ivanovic> not only opera
20100317 14:28:26< Ivanovic> most browsers support this masking
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20100317 14:28:59< Smar> sure, I just use opera so can’t say what other browsers support
20100317 14:30:24< Ivanovic> i am sure that eg konqueror supports it
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20100317 14:44:14< rocket16> Hello fendrin
20100317 14:46:28< rocket16> Anybody here?
20100317 14:47:11< rocket16> Ok, Can anyone please tell me, where to upload the Complete Wesnoth guide?
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20100317 14:48:46< rocket16> Anybody?
20100317 14:49:32< rocket16> (What a silent channel, #ubuntu always discusses matters, only wesnoth can't be discussed there, :()
20100317 14:50:24< rocket16> Really worth nothing to come here, just love Wesnoth and can't leave it.
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20100317 14:54:41< Sacho> then don't come here
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20100317 14:56:36< Smar> :)
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20100317 15:03:21< SekoIdiootti> Does anyone konw, where the gun sounds are from?
20100317 15:03:44< SekoIdiootti> I mean, are they just only in Wesnoth, or are they from some site? Or soemthing?
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20100317 15:08:30< happygrue> SekoIdiootti: all sounds were created by people involved with wesnoth in some way (not from some site).  I think it might be zookeeper who did the thunderer?  but I can't rememer
20100317 15:08:38< happygrue> he did a lot of the cool stuff ;)
20100317 15:08:42< SekoIdiootti> ok
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20100317 15:09:45< SekoIdiootti> happygrue: Some of the sounds have been "stolen" from Egoboo, though... (it's another awesome open source game)
20100317 15:09:57< SekoIdiootti> I mean, I'm 100% sure about that.
20100317 15:10:11< happygrue> SekoIdiootti: I was not aware of that, but I guess it is possible.
20100317 15:10:31< SekoIdiootti> well... The healing sound for example
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20100317 15:10:37< SekoIdiootti> and the ghoul sound
20100317 15:10:45< SekoIdiootti> and some others, but well
20100317 15:11:25< SekoIdiootti> (there was a few angry people in the Egoboo forums about that once)
20100317 15:11:31< SekoIdiootti> ...a long time ago, LOL
20100317 15:11:44< Smar> oh course it can be possible, but it requires the game to have sounds under GPL
20100317 15:11:51< happygrue> I know that all the music and art is original, I had assumed the same for SFX, but I am not sure
20100317 15:13:07< SekoIdiootti> yeah, they're gpl... that's why none of the angry people did nothing, YAY!!!
20100317 15:13:32< SekoIdiootti> OH, and I was one of those angry people. xD
20100317 15:13:41< SekoIdiootti> second time it happened, though
20100317 15:13:43< SekoIdiootti> lol
20100317 15:13:59< SekoIdiootti> I mean, like... there was talk about it two times, or maybe more
20100317 15:14:07< SekoIdiootti> (but it's a nice thing I think)
20100317 15:15:04< SekoIdiootti> (I wasn't angry though. I was sad, lol.)
20100317 15:17:03< happygrue> heh
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20100317 15:22:20< Sacho> Why would they be angry?
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20100317 16:12:34< happygrue> SekoIdiootti:  there was a game that borrowed a bunch of art (elves especially) from Wesnoth a while back.  Some folks were angry, some were indifferent but I guess it is the same thing.
20100317 16:13:15< happygrue> Sacho: I think it might be the feeling that the other game doesn't 'deserve' it?  Not sure really.  I was kinda happy to see it, though they didn't credit it well (at first?).
20100317 16:13:55< Sacho> silly
20100317 16:16:39< Aethaeryn> Eh, they're just n00bs.
20100317 16:16:54< Aethaeryn> If they didn't lift it from us, they'd lift it from commercial games with equal respect to licensing...
20100317 16:17:18< Aethaeryn> After all, Evony (famous for its ads and lack of princesses-to-rescue in-game) rips off AoE 2
20100317 16:17:41< Aethaeryn> Perhaps be flattered that Wesnoth is started to be treated like a commercial game as a source to treat with complete ignorance of any kind of rules?
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20100317 17:29:30< cat_> do you guy still need info on the mouse bug?
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20100317 17:41:52< Soliton> from a cat? unlikely we'll get the full story..
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20100317 17:42:41< fendrin> lol
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20100317 17:45:42< Aethaeryn> My cat killed a mouse the other day...
20100317 17:46:01< Aethaeryn> Probably the worst way to die is by cat.
20100317 17:46:09< Aethaeryn> Especially a playful cat.
20100317 17:49:00< cat_> I make another request
20100317 17:49:42< cat_> can you please handel mutiscreen systems.
20100317 17:49:46< cat_> brb reboot
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20100317 17:50:00< Blarumyrran> Drowning is worse I think
20100317 17:50:45< SekoIdiootti> hmm, being eaten alive by insects would be worse, I think.
20100317 17:51:19< sevis> What about burning alive?
20100317 17:51:21< Aethaeryn> idk
20100317 17:51:33< Blarumyrran> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphism
20100317 17:51:40< Aethaeryn> being played with by something 20x your size, before and after death, and *then* being eaten raw...
20100317 17:51:43< Aethaeryn> that's a pretty bad death.
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20100317 17:53:12< Blarumyrran> Why something 20x your size is worse than something1x your size
20100317 17:53:24< Blarumyrran> Also, what do you care about being played with after death
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20100317 17:58:12< Aethaeryn> Well, it's disrespectful
20100317 17:58:21< Aethaeryn> I mean, our culture doesn't do dead-head volleyball
20100317 17:58:33< Aethaeryn> Even though that'd be cheaper than making volleyballs, probably.
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20100317 17:59:42< SekoIdiootti> and it'd be cool to kick someone horrible person's head.
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20100317 18:00:59< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, being killed by someone 20x your size is pretty heroic I'd say
20100317 18:01:23< Blarumyrran> Which is the opposite of disrespectful
20100317 18:02:48< SekoIdiootti> but what about 2x your size?
20100317 18:03:27< Aethaeryn> so a mouse is a hero for getting caught by a cat, being let to escape, getting caught by a cat, again escaping, getting caught by a cat and being thrown into the air half a dozen times, etc.?
20100317 18:03:29< Blarumyrran> Are we talking about cats twice the size of mice here, or mice on half the size of cats
20100317 18:03:43< Aethaeryn> well, if it's 2x the size...
20100317 18:03:46< Blarumyrran> Aethaeryn, yeah
20100317 18:03:57< Aethaeryn> I'd believe we're talking about rats or squirrels (aka. pretty tree-rats) vs. cats
20100317 18:04:35< Blarumyrran> unless the cat is very young, it would still be more than 2x larger
20100317 18:04:44< SekoIdiootti> lol, if a mouse would be 2 times big as a cat... O.o
20100317 18:04:49< SekoIdiootti> that'd be so scary.
20100317 18:04:51< Aethaeryn> idk, a kitten killing a mouse would be pretty cute.
20100317 18:04:57< Aethaeryn> everyone loves kittens
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20100317 18:05:53< SekoIdiootti> yeah, but.. if organs would be flying everywhere, it'd be kinda scary.
20100317 18:05:57< Aethaeryn> Plenty of memes possible too... like a mortal combat "FINISH HIM"
20100317 18:06:09< Aethaeryn> Caption possibilities are endless.
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20100317 19:29:38< Unnheulu> how do I use the story pictures in my campaign?
20100317 19:29:42< Unnheulu> (the ones kitty made)
20100317 19:30:09< shadowmaster> take a look at how it's done in LoW
20100317 19:30:13< shadowmaster> afk now
20100317 19:30:25< Unnheulu> ok thanks
20100317 19:30:39< Unnheulu> I checked liberty and tsg aaand httt :/
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20100317 20:03:57< sevis> Hmm, anyone with C++ experience online?
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20100317 20:05:44< grzywacz> hm?
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20100317 20:10:55< sevis> I'm looking at how best to write a program that counts key-presses and mouse clicks, while displaying the current count and allowing for some commands  (terminal interface). Would using fork() to send the counting to the background be a good idea?
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20100317 20:12:50< Sacho> wrong channel?
20100317 20:14:51< sevis> As far as I know/have seen, this channel allows off-topic... And I'd rather not join more.
20100317 20:15:23< Sacho> well, if you aren't really interested in getting help, yeah, sure ;)
20100317 20:18:36< sevis> Eh, I have the feeling a C++ channel would yield help that is too scary. :P
20100317 20:19:40< grzywacz> sevis, depends on the envionment.
20100317 20:20:51< grzywacz> sevis, I've seen a program like that somewhere in the KDE distribution
20100317 20:21:08< grzywacz> There are probably gazillion others. :P
20100317 20:21:48< sevis> grzywacz: Linux with X and with no shortage of memory/CPU cycles.
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20100317 20:24:00< sevis> Oh, and no tray, which most of them don't like.
20100317 20:26:07< sevis> Hmm, let me look at that... Open source is pretty much a requirement...
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20100317 20:45:18< sevis> I can find two open source ones for Windows, but nothing for Linux. Anyone know another name for this, other than "key counter"?
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20100317 21:02:31< Tesafilmchen> sevis: linux right?
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20100317 21:03:46< Tesafilmchen> try "keystroke counter" gives  for example this http://sites.google.com/site/yaoxuchen/Home/keystroke_counter and http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=62058 
20100317 21:07:48< sevis> Tesafilmchen: Thank you, didn't think of the 'stroke'
20100317 21:08:07< Tesafilmchen> your welcome
20100317 21:08:52< sevis> Yep, I'm on Linux.
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20100317 21:21:27< ChiWise> Hey guys
20100317 21:21:42< ChiWise> i was asking if one could add an -afk script
20100317 21:21:49< ChiWise> to look how long someone was afk
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20100317 21:38:30< Gambit> Aethaeryn: it works :D
20100317 21:38:43< Gambit> Thank you for the help.
20100317 21:39:14< Aethaeryn> np
20100317 21:39:20< Aethaeryn> I'm very open source.
20100317 21:39:32< Aethaeryn> If I do something and it works, and it's not profitable, why horde information?
20100317 21:39:59< Aethaeryn> Aka. Open source people paid attention in kindergarden. :P
20100317 21:42:10< Gambit> Keep your hands to yourselves?
20100317 21:42:44< Gambit> Or maybe that was just me. lol
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20100317 22:53:36< Gambit> Is the development server empty?
20100317 22:54:46< Soliton> #wesnoth-mp-lobby-dev says no.
20100317 22:55:00< Soliton> or do you mean trunk?
20100317 22:55:03< Gambit> Is it because I compiled from the SVN thinger then?
20100317 22:55:08< Gambit> Soliton: Yes I think so.
20100317 22:55:25< Soliton> ok. yeah, trunk is mostly empty.
20100317 22:56:00< Soliton> you can join the dev server on port 14997 though.
20100317 22:56:12< Gambit> thanks. I was just about to ask that. :)
20100317 22:57:29< Aethaeryn> Gambit: I can get into the dev server from SVN, as long as I have the right revision.
20100317 22:57:35< Aethaeryn> The revision that becomes the dev version
20100317 22:57:52< Aethaeryn> If you are going off of revisions, perhaps you're using a version that isn't out/announced yet :P
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20100317 23:00:37< Gambit> Strange... I enlarged the "in lobby" player list and a blue line appeared on the screen.
20100317 23:00:44< Gambit> 1px vertical blue line.
20100317 23:01:02< Gambit> But it extends out of the wesnoth window so maybe it's the OS, not wesnoth.
20100317 23:01:36< Becquerel> perhaps your screen is broken
20100317 23:01:52< Becquerel> minorly broken
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20100317 23:02:37< Gambit> Heh it's even on the boot sequence
20100317 23:02:46< Gambit> Great you're right Becquerel
20100317 23:03:08 * Gambit slapped it and it went away.
20100317 23:03:14< Becquerel> heh
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20100317 23:03:17< Becquerel> that tends to work
20100317 23:04:46< Gambit> Obama = prince of not answering a question
20100317 23:04:51< Gambit> Second only to Gates.
20100317 23:05:26< Gambit> Anyone else watching the interview with him on Fox right now?
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20100317 23:05:39< Becquerel> why are you watching Fox at all? :P
20100317 23:05:59< Gambit> Glenn Beck :P
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20100317 23:06:24< Gambit> It's better than the all liberal MSNBC
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20100317 23:35:27< PARLIAMENT> Gambit: please throw yourself on a pyre of poison ivy holding a torch
20100317 23:35:43< Gambit> Erm. Okay?
20100317 23:35:57< PARLIAMENT> yeah, feel that burn
20100317 23:35:59< PARLIAMENT> feel it
20100317 23:36:09< Gambit> I actually have a slight immunity to poison ivy.
20100317 23:36:21< PARLIAMENT> what about fire
20100317 23:36:21< Gambit> Though I'm sure that much poison ivy would overcome that. :s
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20100317 23:36:36< Gambit> What did I do to deserve this btw?
20100317 23:36:50< Gambit> Is it my love of free market economies?
20100317 23:36:50< PARLIAMENT> watching glenn beck
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20100317 23:37:51< Gambit> Through all the crazyness, he raises interesting questions. Ones which noone has answered.
20100317 23:38:25< PARLIAMENT> lol did you see the south park episode
20100317 23:38:31< PARLIAMENT> "asking questions"
20100317 23:38:42< Gambit> Also he is the only news anchor that my tax dollars are spent paying somebody to correct his mistakes. So I figure I might as well make sure they're getting put to good use.
20100317 23:39:26< PARLIAMENT> http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251890/
20100317 23:39:41< Gambit> If I spot a mistake that Anita doesn't, there will be hell to pay. ;)
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20100317 23:40:37< PARLIAMENT> obviously fake
20100317 23:40:41< PARLIAMENT> wrong window ~_~
20100317 23:40:51< StealthyCoin> you're fake!
20100317 23:41:40< Gambit> Whadya think they're going to do for april fools this year?
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20100317 23:43:19< Gambit> The wesnoth team that is, not south park.
20100317 23:44:24< Appleman1234> release ....
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20100317 23:44:43< Gambit> Appleman1234: ?
20100317 23:45:05< Appleman1234> release legit new version of wesnoth 
20100317 23:45:19< PARLIAMENT> surrre
20100317 23:45:28< Gambit> And everyone will be suspicious? 
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20100317 23:46:11< Becquerel> they'll announce 2.0
20100317 23:46:15< Gambit> "Beta of Wesnoth in 3D" but it turns out to be a rickroll after you're done downloading it.
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20100317 23:47:09< PARLIAMENT> make the wesnoth-music an even shorter loop
20100317 23:47:13< PARLIAMENT> like 10 seconds
20100317 23:47:16< PARLIAMENT> of horns blowing
20100317 23:48:05< Gambit> Nah just replace the main theme with "Never Goona Give You Up"
20100317 23:49:34< Gambit> Or maybe nothing at all as it's getting to the point where nobody would believe news posted on april 1st.
20100317 23:50:31< PARLIAMENT> lots of real stuff happens on 4/1
20100317 23:50:38< PARLIAMENT> gmail was launched on 4/1
20100317 23:51:48< PARLIAMENT> wasnt there some major release of some open source something that was legit
20100317 23:51:58< Gambit> *Nobody will believe Wesnoth news posted on april 1st.
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20100317 23:57:40< Aethaeryn> Gambit: Glenn Beck is worth watching?
20100317 23:57:57< Aethaeryn> I understand that MSNBC is basically as liberal as Fox is conservative, but Glenn Beck is just an alarmist tool.
20100317 23:58:10< Gambit> Erm Fox has a mixture
20100317 23:58:18< Gambit> But no news is really worth watching.
20100317 23:58:21< Gambit> Quicker to read.
20100317 23:58:26< Aethaeryn> Well...
20100317 23:58:36< Gambit> But when the mood occasionaly strikes, better Fox than any of its competition.
20100317 23:58:37< Aethaeryn> Gambit: Prove you're not an enemy of America.
20100317 23:58:41< Aethaeryn> That's Glenn Beck for you.
20100317 23:58:44< Aethaeryn> Raising questions alright.
20100317 23:59:53< Aethaeryn> Okay, I'm a libertarian primarily focused on the market and not civil side. Although I'm an Independent, if I really joined a party, it'd probably be Republicans, although I wouldn't quite be a stereotypical Republican.
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