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20100323 00:47:03< Gambit> Wow one of my friends just tried to send me a file through aim
20100323 00:47:05< Gambit> funnypic.bat
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20100323 01:45:58< Artisticdude_> hi everyone
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20100323 02:34:20< King_Elendil> hello all! :)
20100323 02:42:15< HanSolo> When I first started my camapign the hard part was writing up _main.cfg
20100323 02:42:25< HanSolo> Then everything when smoothly.
20100323 02:45:56< King_Elendil> realy? couldn't you just copy an existing one and tweak it to fit your campaign?
20100323 02:47:26< HanSolo> That's what I did. :p
20100323 02:56:10< King_Elendil> oh
20100323 03:02:18< Gambit> I had the strangest behaviour with my main.cfg earlier.
20100323 03:02:26< Gambit> It wouldn't include this macro
20100323 03:02:36< Gambit> I had copied/pasted/edited from another one of my projects
20100323 03:02:39< King_Elendil> which one?
20100323 03:02:46< Gambit> so I retyped the include exactly the same
20100323 03:02:50< Gambit> I even checked the old vs the new
20100323 03:02:52< Gambit> identicle
20100323 03:02:55< Gambit> but the new one loaded :s
20100323 03:03:13< Gambit> King_Elendil: A custome one.
20100323 03:03:17< Gambit> snippets.cfg
20100323 03:03:21< King_Elendil> woah :s thats odd
20100323 03:03:31< King_Elendil> oh
20100323 03:03:48< King_Elendil> Gambit: have you been here all day?
20100323 03:03:54< Gambit> Yes.
20100323 03:04:01< Gambit> I don't use the web chat
20100323 03:04:10< Gambit> I have a real IRC client that can sit open in my task trat
20100323 03:04:13< Gambit> *tray
20100323 03:04:33< King_Elendil> what?
20100323 03:04:47< Gambit> Mine isn't in a webpage :P
20100323 03:04:54< King_Elendil> I never heard of something like that
20100323 03:05:03< King_Elendil> what do you use?
20100323 03:05:04< Gambit> In fact most everyone's here isn't in a webpage
20100323 03:05:07< Gambit> I use Pidgin
20100323 03:05:26< Gambit> An open source IM client.
20100323 03:05:32 * King_Elendil runs google search
20100323 03:05:39 * Gambit walks
20100323 03:06:07< King_Elendil> to where?
20100323 03:06:37< King_Elendil> I found it and it works on a mac, so I'm gonna try it.
20100323 03:07:04< King_Elendil> see ya!
20100323 03:07:10< Gambit> If you need help setting it up for irc
20100323 03:07:21< King_Elendil> yeah?
20100323 03:07:21< Gambit> bye
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20100323 03:07:40< Gambit> Well I was going to say "just ask"
20100323 03:07:56< Gambit> but then you started leaving so I wanted to get my proverbial foot in the door before you closed it :)
20100323 03:08:10< King_Elendil> oh will do. see ya in a minute
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20100323 03:13:27< HanSolo> _main.cfg hates me and it always will
20100323 03:14:07< Gambit> HanSolo: Make multiplayer content
20100323 03:14:15< Gambit> then Name_Of_Addon.cfg will hate you :)
20100323 03:14:40< HanSolo> oh dear
20100323 03:14:43< Gambit> Actually Name_Of_Addon.cfg is really nice. It always remembers your birthday and even gets you a present.
20100323 03:15:06< Gambit> Which is more than I can say for Name_Of_Addon.pbl
20100323 03:15:06< HanSolo> Does it threaten to stab you?
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20100323 04:01:29< mrEPIC> Good evening! I asked a question in the #wesnoth-dev channel, but that may not have been the best place to receive a response, so I'll ask it here as well and hope that a knowledgeable and helpful person answers it:
20100323 04:01:59< HanSolo> The answer is elvish shamans.
20100323 04:02:00< mrEPIC> I am in the process of translating my multiplayer campaign, The Haunted Woods. I will first translate it into (very basic) French, and then I will translate it to Chinese. My question is: for other people to be able to view the translation, do they need to have the add-on? In other words, is the translation sent over multiplayer?
20100323 04:02:12< mrEPIC> and umm that's probably not the right answer, HanSolo
20100323 04:02:22< mrEPIC> but thanks for taking a guess :)
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20100323 04:11:51< King_Elendil> Gambit: I am confused about pidgin
20100323 04:12:01< Gambit> k
20100323 04:12:08< Gambit> you have it open?
20100323 04:12:16< King_Elendil> I downloaded fink, so what do I do from there?
20100323 04:12:23< King_Elendil> no
20100323 04:12:28< Gambit> fink wha?
20100323 04:13:00< Gambit> I guess mac doesn't have installers? :s
20100323 04:13:15< King_Elendil> I went to download pidgin, and it sent me to fink's page, so I got the right one...
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20100323 04:13:33< ancestral> Fink is a package manager, Gambit
20100323 04:13:38< King_Elendil> but it doesn't give me instructions from there
20100323 04:13:50< King_Elendil> ancestral, can you help?
20100323 04:13:57< ancestral> Let's see, you need to call the package manager for fink
20100323 04:14:10< King_Elendil> wha?
20100323 04:14:22< Gambit> I can't help with the installation on mac
20100323 04:14:33< King_Elendil> how, do you mean call with a phone?
20100323 04:14:35< Gambit> But I can help setup IRC once you get it installed :P
20100323 04:14:43< King_Elendil> thanks gambit
20100323 04:14:49< ancestral> If you would like a native aqua interface or a user-friendly installer, we suggest trying Adium
20100323 04:14:55< ancestral> You should maybe do that
20100323 04:14:58 * Gambit doesn't know macs and does not want to know.
20100323 04:15:04< ancestral> King_Elendil: I use Colloquy
20100323 04:15:21< Gambit> I thought mac was better than linux in terms of user friendlyness
20100323 04:15:21< ancestral> http://colloquy.info/
20100323 04:15:25< Gambit> Apparently no. :\
20100323 04:15:25< ancestral> It is
20100323 04:15:33< ancestral> Gambit: Pidgin is UNIX software!
20100323 04:15:35< Gambit> bull.
20100323 04:15:37< King_Elendil> ok, so i should do that instead of pidgin?
20100323 04:15:45< Gambit> You can't just download an installer
20100323 04:15:49< Gambit> that's not user friendly
20100323 04:15:57< ancestral> Someone didn't make one
20100323 04:16:01< ancestral> That's someone being lazy
20100323 04:16:05< Gambit> I suppose that's why it's safer against viruses.
20100323 04:16:49< Gambit> King_Elendil: Maybe there is a mac IRC client you can find
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20100323 04:16:59< ancestral> Colloquy!
20100323 04:17:08< Gambit> er like the one ancestral keeps mentioning
20100323 04:17:09< Gambit> xD
20100323 04:17:12< ancestral> Heh
20100323 04:17:26< King_Elendil> lol yeah, I think i'm gonna try that one
20100323 04:17:32< ancestral> They have a way you can pair it up with your iPhone and get push notifications, which is hot
20100323 04:17:54< Gambit> She thinks my Iphone's sexy
20100323 04:18:03 * Gambit breaks into parody of song
20100323 04:18:33< King_Elendil> I'm gonna have to diconnect to dowload, so brb :)
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20100323 04:20:43< Gambit> Hmm there isn't actually much content to that song.
20100323 04:20:47< Gambit> I might write a full parody.
20100323 04:21:02< ancestral> Right Said Fred?
20100323 04:21:12< Gambit> ?
20100323 04:21:22< ancestral> The artist
20100323 04:21:23< Gambit> She Thinks My Tractpr
20100323 04:21:26< ancestral> Oh
20100323 04:21:28< ancestral> Wrong song
20100323 04:21:31< Gambit> *tractor :P
20100323 04:21:38 * ancestral thought you meant "I'm too sexy"
20100323 04:21:43< ancestral> Though
20100323 04:21:49< Gambit> rofl
20100323 04:21:54< ancestral> That wouldn't quite work in the context and sentence you provided
20100323 04:22:06 * ancestral didn't quite read it 100%
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20100323 04:22:14< ancestral> He has entered!
20100323 04:22:19< Gambit> And not from the web chat!
20100323 04:22:26< King_Elendil> yes it worked!!!
20100323 04:22:28< Gambit> Congratulations King_Elendil and welcome to level 2.
20100323 04:22:30< ancestral> Yay
20100323 04:22:37< King_Elendil> lol thanks
20100323 04:22:41< ancestral> You get 1d8 hit points
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20100323 04:22:47< ancestral> Darn you rolled a 1
20100323 04:22:49< ancestral> Well
20100323 04:22:51< Gambit> Now. Will you take the red pill, or the blue one?
20100323 04:22:56< King_Elendil> wow this looks nice!
20100323 04:23:01< ancestral> :)
20100323 04:23:09< King_Elendil> smilies!
20100323 04:23:49< Gambit> Yeah they only time they get annoying is when someone asks how to go into debug mode
20100323 04:23:54< Gambit> Well you type in :debug
20100323 04:23:58< King_Elendil> wow this is cool. thank you so much ancestral!
20100323 04:24:04< ancestral> You're welcome, King dude
20100323 04:24:13< Gambit> King_Elendil: http://www.lolblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/heqzz.jpg
20100323 04:24:16< King_Elendil> :debug
20100323 04:24:56< King_Elendil> LOL 
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20100323 04:44:14< ancestral> Irony: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/amazon-shows-off-kindle-for-ipad/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29
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20100323 05:55:23< vipul1409> hi
20100323 05:55:35< vipul1409> who is the mentpr for " Rewrite wesnoth network stack using boost::asio"
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20100323 08:56:47< Unnheulu> you can change a units side with wml, right?
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20100323 09:03:42< Rhonda> Unnheulu: Wanna code out some renegade? :)
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20100323 09:11:55< fendrin> Unnheulu: right. {MODIFY_UNIT id=the_changer side 3}
20100323 09:12:15< Unnheulu> ok thanks
20100323 09:12:24< fendrin> Unnheulu: You are welcome.
20100323 09:13:06< fendrin> Unnheulu: I believe that needs to go into an [event] tag.
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20100323 09:15:28< Unnheulu> ok, thanks
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20100323 10:15:07< Ivanovic> moin
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20100323 10:26:15< StealthyCoin> What is the gzip compression level used for wesnoth replays?
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20100323 10:32:09< StealthyCoin> my magic eight ball is telling me to ask again later
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20100323 10:44:59< jolan_nl> any dutch here ?
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20100323 13:24:05< Gambit> Aww apparently my screw has been tightened. ;)
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20100323 13:27:58< Jarkko_> Gambit: You're a very powerful man.
20100323 13:28:07< Gambit> ?
20100323 13:28:11< Jarkko_> Your sole appereance was enough to crash my internets x=
20100323 13:28:13< Jarkko_> *x)
20100323 13:28:21< Gambit> I lost my special title :'(
20100323 13:28:35< Gambit> Jarkko: That's my haki
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20100323 13:29:07< Jarkko_> ... You had a title?
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20100323 13:30:33< Gambit> Yes; I dunno why but yesterday it was pointed out to me that I was "loose screw".
20100323 13:30:39< Gambit> Today it's gone.
20100323 13:30:50< Gambit> Maybe it was my on topic post in the users forum. :)
20100323 13:30:55< Gambit> King_Elendil: Hi!
20100323 13:31:06< King_Elendil> good morning!
20100323 13:31:18< King_Elendil> at least it's one here
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20100323 13:31:56< Jarkko_> It's afternoon here. So... good morningafternoon.
20100323 13:32:19< FAAB> I read in some code that "fai engine is temporary disabled", anyone how to enable it back locally ?
20100323 13:32:31< FAAB> know how*
20100323 13:32:39< Gambit> King_Elendil: What in the world are you doing up at one in the morning?
20100323 13:33:02< King_Elendil> what? it's 8:30 here
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20100323 13:34:05< Gambit> you said "at least it's one here"
20100323 13:34:36< Jarkko_> King_Elendil: What in the world are you doing up at 8:30 in the morning?!
20100323 13:34:54 * Jarkko_ never gets up before 11am... *shrug*
20100323 13:34:56< Gambit> It's 8:30 here too.
20100323 13:35:12< King_Elendil> I meant it's a good morning here lol
20100323 13:36:21< King_Elendil> Jarkko_: you just made me feel a whole lot better about getting up at 8:00
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20100323 13:37:17< King_Elendil> hello
20100323 13:37:19< Jarkko_> It's good, that I have been of service! :D
20100323 13:37:26< artisticdude> hi again. : )
20100323 13:37:39< King_Elendil> lol
20100323 13:37:53< Jarkko_> artisticdude: Hello there.
20100323 13:38:02< artisticdude> hi, Jarkko
20100323 13:38:28< Gambit> Time to get artisticdude an IRC client ;)
20100323 13:38:40< artisticdude> What?
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20100323 13:38:59< King_Elendil> hey artisticdude, are you on a mac?
20100323 13:39:05< artisticdude> yes
20100323 13:39:56< King_Elendil> you should try getting Colloquy
20100323 13:40:35< artisticdude> I guess so, but I'd have to wake up like two hours early in order to download it
20100323 13:40:49< King_Elendil> that's the client that I got yesterday to chat with (and I'm using it now)
20100323 13:41:05< King_Elendil> I have a downloading prob too
20100323 13:41:10< Gambit> artisticdude: Dialup?
20100323 13:41:24< King_Elendil> but it's only like 8mb
20100323 13:41:37< artisticdude> my internet service sux, but they don't count my usage from 12:00 am to 6:00 am
20100323 13:41:48< artisticdude> I'm not on dialup, no
20100323 13:41:48< artisticdude> I'm not on dialup, no
20100323 13:41:56< VurtualRuler98> My internet is a steady connection near 60kbyte a second
20100323 13:42:04< VurtualRuler98> But it's truly unlimited.
20100323 13:42:05< VurtualRuler98> and constant
20100323 13:42:11< Gambit> Oh you've got a usage cap?
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20100323 13:42:25< artisticdude> Yes, 2 gigs a month
20100323 13:42:28< VurtualRuler98> No people whining about torrents and no download max.
20100323 13:42:33< Gambit> Wow!
20100323 13:43:01< artisticdude> we live in a rural area, so we have only one ISP available
20100323 13:43:10< artisticdude> and their service is horrible
20100323 13:43:11< artisticdude> and their service is horrible
20100323 13:43:21< Jarkko_> But of course.
20100323 13:43:36< Jarkko_> No customers... No quality! *Wheee...*
20100323 13:43:36< King_Elendil> imo rural is worth it
20100323 13:43:36< VurtualRuler98> come to my rural area.
20100323 13:43:41< VurtualRuler98> Less people and better internet.
20100323 13:43:46< Gambit> That's how it goes.
20100323 13:43:48< shadowmaster> artisticdude: you don't need to repeat yourself each time btw
20100323 13:43:57< Gambit> Phone companies/ISPs have a monopoly.
20100323 13:44:02< artisticdude> sorry
20100323 13:44:13< Gambit> shadowmaster: It's always twice within a second. I don't think he can type that fast.
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20100323 13:46:45< artisticdude> I originally downloaded one of the earliest versions of Wesnoth, just because the download was smaller than the newer version
20100323 13:47:05< Gambit> Yeah 400mb would dip into that quite a bit.
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20100323 13:48:03< artisticdude> I can't even watch videos online : (
20100323 13:48:18< VurtualRuler98> complain
20100323 13:48:23< VurtualRuler98> then set up your own fiber network
20100323 13:48:28< Gambit> lol
20100323 13:48:38< shadowmaster> artisticdude: you are not alone
20100323 13:48:52< King_Elendil> wesnoth is lucky to have such a good group of people for it's fans
20100323 13:48:58< shadowmaster> in fact, you probably live in a nice neighborhood.
20100323 13:48:58< artisticdude> they'll tell me to upgrade, which costs a bloody fortune more than the bloody fortune we already pay them
20100323 13:49:00< King_Elendil> I can't either
20100323 13:49:01< Gambit> A customer told us that once :\ We sold internet in the VI but not phone; and I guess the phone was really crappy.
20100323 13:49:10< Gambit> "Well can't you guys put up your own phone lines?"
20100323 13:49:22< artisticdude> I do live in a nice neighborhood... no neighbors
20100323 13:49:34< VurtualRuler98> I have a few neighbors.
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20100323 13:49:39< VurtualRuler98> Splattered over miiiiles and miiiiles
20100323 13:50:01< King_Elendil> I wish it were that way for me
20100323 13:50:18< Jarkko_> Neighbors == trouble...
20100323 13:50:26< artisticdude> I like the elbow room, but not the poor internet coverage
20100323 13:50:50< King_Elendil> well, you can't get everythimg
20100323 13:51:04< Gambit> I'm in a rural area; but the neighbor a little ways down the road just became the county commisioner. They repaved the road and put up fiber optic phone lines XD
20100323 13:51:48< Gambit> And this road has not been repaved while I've been alive. They just tar/chip it every 5 years.
20100323 13:52:13< artisticdude> my cousin's internet service is tied in with the house in some way where he's gotta pay for the internet service whether or not he uses it at all
20100323 13:52:21< artisticdude> I live on a dirt road, currently full of potholes due to the recent snow/rain. it's like a minefield.
20100323 13:52:22< VurtualRuler98> Gravel roads here
20100323 13:52:24< Gambit> I'd question the coincidence of the two events if the phone quality wasn't so much better.
20100323 13:52:29< VurtualRuler98> There's a paved road a mile away.
20100323 13:52:58 * Gambit is actually surprised either of you get DSL.
20100323 13:53:00< artisticdude> we used to have gravel on the road, but no more. Budget cutbacks, I suppose
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20100323 13:53:36< King_Elendil> well, I guess I;m lucky, because I have a paved drive-way XD
20100323 13:53:52< Gambit> Niice.
20100323 13:54:20< King_Elendil> yep
20100323 13:54:23< artisticdude> I have a paved drive-way, but it's like three hundred feet long (it's a pain to walk to the mailbox, but it keeps me in shape : P)
20100323 13:55:07< King_Elendil> wow same here, but my drive is on a hill, a really steep one
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20100323 13:55:57< artisticdude> our drive goes up and reaches a hill about halfway, then slowly curves more and more sharply downhill until it hits the road
20100323 13:56:20< VurtualRuler98> artisticdude, do you land planes there?
20100323 13:56:33< King_Elendil> XD
20100323 13:56:56< artisticdude> it curves sharply when it gets to the hill, so that probably wouldn't be a good idea... : P
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20100323 13:58:19< artisticdude> I've never even been on a plane before.
20100323 13:58:50< King_Elendil> with colloquy I can even change the way that the smilies look
20100323 13:59:09< King_Elendil> really? you're not missing that much
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20100323 14:00:21< artisticdude> you're interesting me in this colloquy thing. I'm gonna lose sleep tonight : P
20100323 14:00:37< King_Elendil> hah lol
20100323 14:04:45< King_Elendil> Jarkko_: you wrote the white lich :o?
20100323 14:05:25< Jarkko_> Yes, I did.
20100323 14:05:33< Jarkko_> Or - actually I am still writing it.
20100323 14:05:43< King_Elendil> wow
20100323 14:06:00< King_Elendil> good piece of work that is
20100323 14:06:24< King_Elendil> I can't wait for you to finish it
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20100323 14:08:19< Jarkko_> Thank you . :) The third and final part is on the way - I'll be publishing the chapters, as I get them written and bashed through the quality inspection.
20100323 14:09:06< King_Elendil> I'm looking at your art, and it seems that you are also skilled in that area ;)
20100323 14:09:08< artisticdude> I haven't written a book since... I don't know when. four years ago? It wasn't nearly the quality of your story, Jarkko.
20100323 14:11:55< artisticdude> I'd never even done pixel art before I came onboard the Wesnoth project
20100323 14:12:16< Blarumyrran> me neither
20100323 14:12:25< Jarkko_> Nevertheless, you've made some incredible progress, artisticdude.
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20100323 14:12:40< King_Elendil> I have to agree
20100323 14:13:14< artisticdude> thanks : )
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20100323 14:17:24< Gambit> artisticdude: You used to be one of *those* artists.
20100323 14:17:37< Gambit> The ones that made a new thread for every sprite and couldn't finish everything. :)
20100323 14:17:43< Gambit> *anything
20100323 14:17:47< King_Elendil> like me!
20100323 14:18:59< artisticdude> Yes, I remember those days. That was when turuk was still around (he warned me not to keep creating threads for every project, one of my many newb mistakes). I'm more forum-savvy now.
20100323 14:20:52< artisticdude> say Gambit, where's your forum title?
20100323 14:21:03< Gambit> Dunno.
20100323 14:21:23< King_Elendil> Gambit: you need to post 6 more times on the forums...
20100323 14:21:35< artisticdude> it's... gone...
20100323 14:21:53< Gambit> I either unearned it; or whoever did it didn't mean for me to actually like it, or someone else said it was rediculous to pass out random titles to people
20100323 14:22:13< Gambit> King_Elendil: for what?
20100323 14:22:32< King_Elendil> you live in the USA right?
20100323 14:22:39< Gambit> ugh -_-
20100323 14:22:55< King_Elendil> what?
20100323 14:23:10< artisticdude> ... until you reach 1706 posts?
20100323 14:23:12< Gambit> That is such an obscure joke.
20100323 14:23:17< Gambit> artisticdude: 1776
20100323 14:23:22< King_Elendil> 1776
20100323 14:23:29< King_Elendil> obscure?
20100323 14:23:48< artisticdude> oh yes, sorry, that was a typo
20100323 14:23:53< Gambit> yes; I had no clue what you were on about until you mentioned america.
20100323 14:24:14< King_Elendil> and you live here too, right?
20100323 14:29:01< King_Elendil> never-mind then.
20100323 14:32:18< artisticdude> What reason do you have behind your forum username? I was interesting in creating art, so artisticdude (while rather presumptuous, considering my lack of skill) was a natural choice
20100323 14:32:47< King_Elendil> me?
20100323 14:33:33< Gambit> It are LoTR reference.
20100323 14:34:03< Jarkko_> artisticdude: Heh... my name choice is a direct opposite from you. x)
20100323 14:34:28< VurtualRuler98> I made up mine as a long and unique name that could easily be made into lots of shorter names
20100323 14:34:30< Gambit> unartisticdude?
20100323 14:34:47< VurtualRuler98> But I already encountered another me.
20100323 14:34:49< Jarkko_> For the first time in my internet history I wanted to present myself with my real name.
20100323 14:35:00< Gambit> I can't stand having numbers in my name :\
20100323 14:36:03< Gambit> And after that last XMen movie all the nerds are taking "Gambit" :(
20100323 14:36:17< artisticdude> me neither, I want my name to have personality and uniqueness
20100323 14:37:04< artisticdude> I googled 'Jarkko', and got a professional hockey and a professional tennis player, both from Finland. I didn't know you played tennis. : P
20100323 14:38:09< Gambit> Do you guys use the same names all over?
20100323 14:38:10< Jarkko_> *facepine, because there are no palmtrees in Finland*
20100323 14:38:13< Gambit> (if possible)
20100323 14:39:20< artisticdude> no, I'm registered as Riggon in Basilisk games' forums, Kravvon Nar'roth in pixel joint's forums, and I forgot my registration for Spiderweb Software's forums
20100323 14:40:02< Gambit> I had used Gambit on everything without fail from my first online ps2 game up until that darn XMen movie.
20100323 14:40:23< Gambit> Then I used TheCricket for a few months until it was taken on the playstation network.
20100323 14:40:37< Gambit> Finally I decided just to make something up.
20100323 14:41:02< Gambit> Only to find out it is a real word in german (or at least according to google) and taken on AIM >_>
20100323 14:41:18< King_Elendil> I wasn't even going to get involved in the forums, but I saw someone using the "/me do whatever" trick in multiplayer, and asked how I could do that. He told me to register in the forums and then he would show me, so I did. I picked the (LotR) name smeagol, but that was already used so I thought that no one would use King_Elendil and tried it, and it worked. later I decided to have a look at the forums and got sucked into this madness!
20100323 14:41:21< Gambit> Just pop "The" in front
20100323 14:42:39< Gambit> haha they wouldn't tell you until you joined the forums?
20100323 14:42:48< Gambit> Now there's a community promoter.
20100323 14:43:58< artisticdude> Other names I've used in things other than forums: Artillary Thahd, Moosh Bubby, Travis O'Connor, Three Big Doggsies, downwithunclenee, caveman, hercules_bashes_heads, intelligent1, etc.
20100323 14:44:20< King_Elendil> nope
20100323 14:46:37< artisticdude> Did you know that there are over 1,000 users in the Wesnoth forums that haven't even posted once? For all I know, there are several more thousands. I got tired of counting.
20100323 14:47:08< King_Elendil> wow
20100323 14:47:21< Gambit> 4902 :)
20100323 14:47:42< artisticdude> Holy moley.
20100323 14:47:43< Gambit> exactly ;)
20100323 14:47:45< Blarumyrran> Some people make unused accounts to reserve multiplayer nicks
20100323 14:47:53< Gambit> Yes.
20100323 14:48:02< artisticdude> still...
20100323 14:48:47< artisticdude> I have another account for backup purposes, but it has a couple posts in it.
20100323 14:49:23< King_Elendil> what's it called?
20100323 14:49:51< artisticdude> ZarianEmporer (spelled wrong on purpose)
20100323 14:50:35< King_Elendil> hmm, now I know where else to hack at you! lol just kidding XD
20100323 14:51:05< artisticdude> Emporer should be Emperor
20100323 14:51:31< artisticdude> I ain't worried : )
20100323 14:53:09< King_Elendil> I like the troll
20100323 14:53:30< artisticdude> I just googled 'artisticdude,' and there's a site (under construction) called artisticdude.com. When I googled it, google asked if I meant 'artistic nude.'  I mean, what the heck? :/
20100323 14:53:40< artisticdude> the troll?
20100323 14:53:40< artisticdude> the troll?
20100323 14:53:55< King_Elendil> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28178
20100323 14:53:59< Gambit> what date did the forum/mp lobby integration go live?
20100323 14:54:13< Gambit> I could find the number of empties before then :P
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20100323 14:54:49< artisticdude> oh, that one. one of my earliest frankensteins, that.
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20100323 14:55:55< King_Elendil> hello there
20100323 14:56:02< artisticdude> 'ello, dude.
20100323 14:56:10< Telaron_> hi
20100323 14:56:15< Jarkko_> Hello there
20100323 14:56:23< King_Elendil> maybe you ought to redo him, or something
20100323 14:57:09< artisticdude> we are all so warm and welcoming. ; ) Yeah, I might redo him (from scratch this time) at some point.
20100323 14:57:33< Telaron_> Anybody ever seen the site Freeplay music? It's got a lot  of action/ adventure themes like wesnoth.
20100323 14:57:49< Jarkko_> artisticdude: We just behave like a good community should behave :P
20100323 14:57:53< artisticdude> Isn't that wizard close-you-eyes horrible?
20100323 14:58:17< King_Elendil> yep
20100323 14:58:22< King_Elendil> XD
20100323 14:58:24< artisticdude> I know, it's just that... never mind. Poor joke. Sorry. : )
20100323 14:58:50< King_Elendil> I had one of those yesterday
20100323 14:59:04< artisticdude> one of whats?
20100323 14:59:14< Gambit> a really tasteless joke
20100323 14:59:20< King_Elendil> except it had to do with SM
20100323 14:59:29< artisticdude> uh-oh
20100323 14:59:38< Telaron_> left a bad taste in my mouth...
20100323 14:59:43< Gambit> It would have been more a politicol joke were it not for recent events.
20100323 14:59:58< King_Elendil> yeah
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20100323 15:00:25< King_Elendil> and i kinda meant it that way. but anyway lets get off this subject
20100323 15:00:42< artisticdude> I ought to make my own website and put my new personal logo in it.
20100323 15:01:05< Telaron_> I really have to get back to spriting some time...
20100323 15:01:24< Blarumyrran> artisticdude, that sounds like a great idea for a website
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20100323 15:01:59< King_Elendil> oh I had an idea yesterday about 3d stuff
20100323 15:02:03< Telaron_> artisticdude: If you have the right software to do it
20100323 15:02:16< Telaron_> And your idea?
20100323 15:02:16< Telaron_> And your idea?
20100323 15:02:27< artisticdude> I'm on a mac, so I've got iweb.
20100323 15:02:37< Telaron_> true
20100323 15:02:38< artisticdude> and there are lots of resources on the web
20100323 15:02:38< artisticdude> and there are lots of resources on the web
20100323 15:03:02< artisticdude> Freeplay music isn't GPL, BTW.
20100323 15:03:25< Telaron_> GPL?
20100323 15:03:31< Blarumyrran> Freeplay?
20100323 15:03:51< King_Elendil> it might be helpful to make 3d sprites, for animation, and lighting, and pose changes
20100323 15:04:05< Telaron_> Yeah the site for free music. Any kinda music
20100323 15:04:07< artisticdude> General Public License. Freeplay.com, a site full of free music you can download
20100323 15:04:42< artisticdude> You have to listen to the 'Pirates Nest', that song is awesome (if somewhat short)
20100323 15:04:42< Telaron_> Well, if it isn't general public license, then what is it?
20100323 15:05:02< Blarumyrran> Telaron_, only really weird people use GPL for things like art and music
20100323 15:05:03< artisticdude> They have their own license, I believe
20100323 15:05:42< Telaron_> hmm, one of my favorites is Together We Stand.
20100323 15:05:54< Telaron_> Good name for a song...
20100323 15:05:55< Telaron_> Good name for a song...
20100323 15:06:01< artisticdude> It's free for personal purposes, but not commercial purposes. Telaron: is that a love song?
20100323 15:06:07< Blarumyrran> King_Elendil, that wouldn't be that useful - a huge part of the animating of wesnoth sprites is using unrealistic distortions
20100323 15:06:22< King_Elendil> good point
20100323 15:06:39< Telaron_> If, it is, you'd know it. But no, it is an action/ battle song
20100323 15:06:58< artisticdude> 3d sprites are awesome, but they wouldn't really fit in Wesnoth. Now in Geneforge and Avernum, they work perfectly. 
20100323 15:07:34< artisticdude> They use poser and Bryce though, which is fairly expensive for the average Joe Shmoe
20100323 15:07:43< Blarumyrran> Avernum didn't have 3d sprites
20100323 15:07:49< King_Elendil> I meant like create a 3d sprite, then get a snapshot in the pose that you want the sprite in
20100323 15:08:13< Telaron_> 3d has many good uses.
20100323 15:08:16< artisticdude> avernum 4,5, and 6 did
20100323 15:08:27< Blarumyrran> Wut, they still keep making them
20100323 15:08:37< King_Elendil> it was just an idea
20100323 15:08:37< Jarkko_> King_Elendil: There's a great chance, that the sprite might become ugly.
20100323 15:08:45< Telaron_> Not any more, 6 was the end.
20100323 15:08:53< Blarumyrran> I had the image that Spiderweb was on the verge of death when they released Blades of Avernum
20100323 15:08:56< King_Elendil> yeah,iguess
20100323 15:09:01< artisticdude> 6 is the last one Jeff's gonna do (or so he said), but he's thinking of remaking avernum
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20100323 15:09:29< Telaron_> Do another Geneforge ; )
20100323 15:09:45< artisticdude> No, Jeff's still alive, and his games are still awesome. He's starting a new series now.
20100323 15:09:56< Blarumyrran> My first attempts at spriting were with modifying centaurs from Avernum
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20100323 15:10:03< King_Elendil> I have the demo for all those games, but i'm cheap
20100323 15:10:13< Blarumyrran> after centaur wizards from QfG5, among others
20100323 15:10:14< artisticdude> Really? Cool.
20100323 15:10:20< King_Elendil> so i don't buy anything
20100323 15:10:28< Gambit> My first attemt at spriting was attaching a shoop da whoop face to the white mage.
20100323 15:10:35< Gambit> A "frankenstein" I guess.
20100323 15:10:36< Telaron_> I'm right there with you, man. I have tone of mac game demos...
20100323 15:10:59< artisticdude> I've got the demos too, but I can't buy any of the games... long story, but I would if I could. Which is your favorite?
20100323 15:11:03< King_Elendil> halo demo is actually a pretty good demo
20100323 15:11:21< King_Elendil> idk
20100323 15:11:43< Telaron_> Minions of Mirth and Imperial Glory also have good demos
20100323 15:12:07< King_Elendil> I think I tried minions a long time ago
20100323 15:12:17< artisticdude> minions of mirth is rather dumb, IMHO
20100323 15:12:33< artisticdude> The enemies all regenerate, and they do it way to fast.
20100323 15:12:33< artisticdude> The enemies all regenerate, and they do it way to fast.
20100323 15:12:38< Telaron_> It is fairly fun, but hardly any storyline.
20100323 15:12:55< Telaron_> You can slow down the regeneration speed
20100323 15:12:56< Telaron_> You can slow down the regeneration speed
20100323 15:13:01< King_Elendil> Imperial glory, what kind of game is that?
20100323 15:13:08< Blarumyrran> Do you people who post the same sentence many times all use webchat?
20100323 15:13:24< artisticdude> It's a nice game, but I'll let Telaron tell you about it.
20100323 15:13:31< Telaron_> It is a mac game. It is like Total War. Only Imperial Glory has a mac demo
20100323 15:14:08< Gambit> shadowmaster: It looks like the repeating text glitch is related to the web chat. That's what Telaron and artisticdude have in common.
20100323 15:14:13< Telaron_> Though, it is a fairly small demo at that. 2 battles out of 81 in the full game
20100323 15:14:46< Telaron_> Am I repeating stuff?
20100323 15:14:56< King_Elendil> darn, it's too new for my computer
20100323 15:14:59< artisticdude> I was repeating myself? I thought you meant I was taking too many lines to say stuff. 
20100323 15:15:14< Telaron_> what is ?
20100323 15:15:20< artisticdude> King Elendil: are you on PPC or intel?
20100323 15:15:28< King_Elendil> go to go bye all, see ya soon (I hope)
20100323 15:15:37< King_Elendil> ppc
20100323 15:15:45< Telaron_> See ya'
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20100323 15:16:08< artisticdude> yeah, I should probably scram too (got lots of work an all). Bye guys.
20100323 15:16:16< Telaron_> Can you use Sit. dewnloads on a PPC?
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20100323 15:18:02< Gambit> artisticdude: Yeah you were posting the same thing twice in a second.
20100323 15:18:05< Gambit> Quite frequently.
20100323 15:18:20< Gambit> Bye
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20100323 15:35:36< shadowmaster> Gambit: okay, how odd
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20100323 15:36:30< rocket16> Hello all
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20100323 15:37:04< Gambit> Also they apparently didn't notice it happening.
20100323 15:37:24< rocket16> Anybody know how to counter Gryphons with Elves? (Archers are bad here)
20100323 15:37:40< shadowmaster> spam archers
20100323 15:37:45< Gambit> But I guess you have 3 computers so that's no problem.
20100323 15:37:52< shadowmaster> Gambit: ?
20100323 15:38:14< rocket16> shadowmaster: Thanks, but should we only create more archers against them? Isn't there a better counter?
20100323 15:38:15< Gambit> *3 log ins
20100323 15:38:20< Jarkko_> Hello there
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20100323 15:38:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: there can be more than 50 connections from a single IP on a single freenode server
20100323 15:38:31< rocket16> Hello Jarkko_
20100323 15:38:48< shadowmaster> Gambit: I'm using only one laptop atm, although "shadowmaster" doesn't run from it
20100323 15:38:58 * rocket16 is waiting
20100323 15:39:12< Gambit> rocket16: Spam mages :o
20100323 15:39:23< shadowmaster> you could mix archers and fighters?
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20100323 15:39:37< shadowmaster> if you can get a shaman to slow it down for that turn...
20100323 15:39:42< Blarumyrran> You could mix anchovies with pepperoni
20100323 15:39:49< Blarumyrran> But the resulting pizza will be unhuman
20100323 15:39:49< shadowmaster> as you can see, the answer isn't trivial
20100323 15:39:51< rocket16> Gambit: Thanks, I think there is no real counter then, :( Thinking of leaving the elvesm but I hate those ugly dwarves
20100323 15:39:56< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Not true.
20100323 15:40:10< Gambit> Blarumyrran: You *have* to have something to go with the anchovies or that's all you'll taste.
20100323 15:40:19< shadowmaster> rocket16: uh, you are an elf fan?
20100323 15:40:20< Gambit> At least with raw anchovies.
20100323 15:40:22< rocket16> Shadowmaster: Great! That sounds preferable
20100323 15:40:36< Gambit> I have to add mine afterwards because I'm the only one in my family that likes them.
20100323 15:40:46< rocket16> shadowmaster: Yes, :) So, really enjoyed your extremely nice campaign
20100323 15:40:49< shadowmaster> okay, that explains a lot
20100323 15:40:55< Gambit> I'm not sure how they are when actually cooked on the pizza.
20100323 15:40:56< shadowmaster> I'm sick of elves :x
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20100323 15:41:13< Gambit> Blarumyrran: ever had spinach pizza?
20100323 15:41:15< rocket16> I give a big applause to Shadowmaster, for his fabulous achievement (in creating Invasion from the Unknown)
20100323 15:41:23< Blarumyrran> Fantasy elves are somewhat faggy
20100323 15:41:28 * rocket16 applauses
20100323 15:41:28< Blarumyrran> Gambit, no
20100323 15:41:33< Gambit> Pansy tree-huggers
20100323 15:41:57< shadowmaster> spinach pizza sounds delicious
20100323 15:41:58< Blarumyrran> Mhm - they should be like, bigger & bulkier than humans, and have long beards
20100323 15:42:05< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Spinach and cheese is awesome. I wouldn't normally have tried it but it was my birthday and we were at an All You Can Eat for 5 dollars pizza buffet :o
20100323 15:42:05< Blarumyrran> Then they would be cool
20100323 15:42:21< rocket16> shadowmaster: May I ask your favoutire faction?
20100323 15:42:25< Blarumyrran> Gambit, I don't think I've ever eaten spinach at all
20100323 15:42:35< rocket16> shadowmaster: Only if you don't mind
20100323 15:42:49< shadowmaster> rocket16: hard to say since I don't play Wesnoth a lot
20100323 15:42:54< Gambit> He's in mad love with The Exiles from GEB.
20100323 15:42:57< Blarumyrran> rocket16, mine's mushrooms and pineapple
20100323 15:43:04< rocket16> shadowmaster: Ok, no problem.
20100323 15:43:07< Blarumyrran> And yeah, lots of cheese is good
20100323 15:43:13< shadowmaster> I prefer to play with whatever is more convenient for the scenario if I hav e a vchoice
20100323 15:43:14< rocket16> Blarumyrran: lol, nice,
20100323 15:43:48< shadowmaster> but whenever I've been at the MP server I've chosen the random choice.
20100323 15:43:49< rocket16> I wonder, what could have been the result if we could have conducted a vote here about best faction, :(
20100323 15:44:09< Blarumyrran> shadowmaster, why did you have the genders so that you can't select it when going random?
20100323 15:44:31< shadowmaster> because I forgot to make it more flexible
20100323 15:44:37< rocket16> Yes, many people choose random. It is really hard
20100323 15:44:38< shadowmaster> also, nobody filed a proper FR for that.
20100323 15:44:53< rocket16> Once I got those dwarves against undead, :( Really smashed me, 
20100323 15:45:08< rocket16> Viva la Elves!
20100323 15:45:08< Gambit> But all factions are balanced against all others.
20100323 15:45:21< shadowmaster> arfgh, gratuitous spanish
20100323 15:45:25< Gambit> Don't dwarves get thugs?
20100323 15:45:35< Blarumyrran> Gambit, not anymore
20100323 15:45:40< rocket16> I agree, but each person has a speciality, :)
20100323 15:46:01< Gambit> Footpad spam
20100323 15:46:21< rocket16> Shadowmaster: Will there be any sequel to your Campaign?
20100323 15:46:30< Gambit> rocket16: There are already 2
20100323 15:46:33< rocket16> Shadowmaster: We Indians are dying for it,
20100323 15:46:39< rocket16> Gambit: Really?
20100323 15:46:50< Gambit> rocket16: Yes. They just aren't mainlined.
20100323 15:47:09< rocket16> Gambit: I mean, the story of Invasion from the Unknown continues?
20100323 15:47:18< shadowmaster> rocket16: if you had taken a careful look at the forums you'd know that the answer is "yes"
20100323 15:47:31< rocket16> shadowmaster: Oh! Great!!!!!
20100323 15:47:46< rocket16> shadowmaster: What is the name for it? And, is it an add-on?
20100323 15:48:02< shadowmaster> I can't imagine what it could be other than an add-on.
20100323 15:48:07< shadowmaster> After the Storm it is
20100323 15:48:32< rocket16> Oh! Thanks! IFTU is better than all mainline Campaigns, according to me, :)
20100323 15:48:45< shadowmaster> not according to me :)
20100323 15:48:52< rocket16> Even Heir to the Throne is no match for it, :)
20100323 15:49:24< rocket16> shadowmaster: You don't know what you have created!!!!!!!!!!!! That is a masterpiece in Wesnoth1!!!!!!!!!!!
20100323 15:49:30< Gambit> Technically everything set after something chronologically, but in the same universe is a sequel
20100323 15:49:37< shadowmaster> okay, please keep the exclamation sign count low
20100323 15:49:37< artisticdude> *artisticdude returns You've got a fan, shadowmaster.
20100323 15:49:53< rocket16> Three Hundred Cheers for Invasion from the Unknown!
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20100323 15:50:20< rocket16> No, 30000000000000000 Cheers for IFTW!
20100323 15:50:23< artisticdude> *ugg. Fan mail.*
20100323 15:50:31< Gambit> :\
20100323 15:50:35< rocket16>  am downloading the sequel!
20100323 15:50:37< shadowmaster> Gambit: yeah
20100323 15:51:08< rocket16> What bad is it to cheer a nice thing? :)
20100323 15:51:09< shadowmaster> rocket16: please hold- er don't hold your breath for it. It's not anywhere near finished.
20100323 15:51:19< artisticdude> IFTW?
20100323 15:51:25< rocket16> shadowmaster: After the Storm?
20100323 15:51:28< shadowmaster> yeah
20100323 15:51:44< rocket16> Still, Can't I download it and play?
20100323 15:51:52< Gambit> Don't hold your breath for thunderstone either
20100323 15:52:02< Gambit> it will probably ocme out, but not for a really long time :P
20100323 15:52:25< rocket16> Not only me, all our Ubuntu Club members of India are eager to have it. We are to crush Windows
20100323 15:52:44< shadowmaster> rocket16: uh, of course you can...
20100323 15:52:46< rocket16> Because Wesnoth is a great game, and one of the gaming solutions to Ubuntu
20100323 15:52:54< shadowmaster> alll I'm saying is that you shouldn't expect great things
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20100323 15:52:59< rocket16> shadowmaster: Thanks, just getting it, :)
20100323 15:53:40< artisticdude> Enjoy.
20100323 15:53:41< artisticdude> Enjoy.
20100323 15:54:34< rocket16> Thanks artisticdude, :)
20100323 15:54:58< Gambit> A campaign so nice you can enjoy it twice.
20100323 15:55:14< rocket16> Oh, I think It isn't there in main add-on server. I need to grab the code and download it perhaps, 
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20100323 15:55:36< shadowmaster> it is in the 1.7.8+ server
20100323 15:55:36< rocket16> I mean, compile it, :) Great task,
20100323 15:55:43< rocket16> Oh! Thanks,
20100323 15:55:45< shadowmaster> and it's WML. you don't compile WML.
20100323 15:55:47< King_Elendil> hello again
20100323 15:55:51< Gambit> Compiling WML is really hard.
20100323 15:56:00< Jarkko> King_Elendil: Welcome back
20100323 15:56:05< shadowmaster> there was a way to compile WML but it's useless
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20100323 15:56:08< shadowmaster> nowadays
20100323 15:56:12< King_Elendil> yep, it addicting lol
20100323 15:56:24< King_Elendil> *it's
20100323 15:56:26< shadowmaster> and I mean *compile*, not write, Gambit  :|
20100323 15:56:35< Gambit> :P
20100323 15:56:44< Gambit> Me too.
20100323 15:56:51< Gambit> In fact compiling WML is almost... impossible ;)
20100323 15:57:39< rocket16> Oh man, I have 1.6.5. Then, let me try to get it from SourceForge, checked out Shadowmaster's Article there, in the forum
20100323 15:58:04< King_Elendil> good luck!
20100323 15:58:18< rocket16> Thanks
20100323 15:59:22< rocket16> I IFTU, what I like the most, is the return of Mal Keshar
20100323 16:00:21< rocket16> I am a Java/Python programmer (Hobbyist), and haven't yet made any campaign or map in wesnoth, but
20100323 16:00:40< rocket16> In Future, if I do, there will be one funny campaign in which
20100323 16:00:58< rocket16> Mal Keshar will conquer the whole Wesnoth, single-handedly
20100323 16:01:01< rocket16> :)
20100323 16:01:31< rocket16> And his dialogue will be "If you enter the ring, you will rest in peace" (Undertaker)
20100323 16:01:41< King_Elendil> sound's fun
20100323 16:01:46< rocket16> :)
20100323 16:01:48< Gambit> Before you die you see the hex.
20100323 16:01:55< shadowmaster> sounds fun and completely ridiculous.
20100323 16:02:14< shadowmaster> particularly because my plans for him are already "carved in stone", shall we say
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20100323 16:02:27< rocket16> Great! Just a funny one though, like the fight between Jesus and Hitler
20100323 16:02:45< rocket16> I mean, Jesus vs Hitler video, one the funniest
20100323 16:02:53< rocket16> * one of the funniest
20100323 16:03:06< rocket16> A great fight is shown there, :) 
20100323 16:03:58< King_Elendil> Jarrko: are you almost done with the white lich?
20100323 16:04:11< Jarkko> Not even close.
20100323 16:04:18< King_Elendil> darn
20100323 16:04:21< artisticdude> really? I had an idea for a campaign where you've gotta defend the bananas from a horde of monkeys until the monkey man comes and gets the monkeys, but I never got around to it. : P
20100323 16:04:32< King_Elendil> I really love it
20100323 16:04:45< artisticdude> Same in my corner
20100323 16:04:56< Gambit> artisticdude: Make it an MP addon
20100323 16:05:06< Gambit> artisticdude: Everyone has their own banana pile.
20100323 16:05:07< rocket16> Mal Keshar's song will be "Kill the world, make it a worse place; For Ghouls and the bats, and the entire undead race"
20100323 16:05:11< King_Elendil> interesting  :| 
20100323 16:05:20< Gambit> artisticdude: And you can somehow make the monkeys more attracted to other players xD
20100323 16:05:32< artisticdude> Who knows? I bet a lot of people would actually like it. : P
20100323 16:05:38< Gambit> All kinds of silly weapons like "banana scented perfume"
20100323 16:06:03< King_Elendil> XD
20100323 16:06:12< artisticdude> banana peelers?
20100323 16:06:15< rocket16> And, I want to make a new Wesnoth monster, Billy Goat (Bill Gates=Billy the clown)
20100323 16:06:27< Gambit> And you can sacrifice one or two bananas from your stack to tie up a monkey for x turns.
20100323 16:06:28< shadowmaster> rocket16: please stop the MS hate propaganda here :|
20100323 16:06:40< rocket16> Ok ok, just a bit warming up, :)
20100323 16:07:02< fendrin> shadowmaster: What is wrong with MS hate propaganda?
20100323 16:07:06< King_Elendil> you use a mac?
20100323 16:07:10< shadowmaster> fendrin: it is off-topic.
20100323 16:07:20< shadowmaster> fendrin: and it also makes you look like a clown
20100323 16:07:24< artisticdude> But if the monkeys eat all your bananas, you're in trouble, because... because... what?
20100323 16:07:33< rocket16> 0--<:()
20100323 16:07:46< rocket16> o--<:()
20100323 16:08:29< King_Elendil> 0-<:()
20100323 16:08:33< shadowmaster> stop the smiley spam
20100323 16:08:34< Gambit> artisticdude: You need them to make pies for scenario 2 of course.
20100323 16:08:42< King_Elendil> means what?
20100323 16:08:45< Gambit> artisticdude: How else will you fight off the clowns?
20100323 16:09:00< rocket16> What we all need now, is a nice AoM like Free, Open-Source RTS (Unlike Glest or Warzone)
20100323 16:09:14< artisticdude> This is sounding good, actually... hmm...
20100323 16:09:16< rocket16> Then, Linux will have both RTS and TBS games, :)
20100323 16:09:30< Gambit> doesn't WZ2100 work on linux?
20100323 16:09:41< King_Elendil> this is an absurd  conversation
20100323 16:09:44< shadowmaster> fendrin: I mean, it's okay to complain about things like "the CRT doesn't implement function foo() which is required by ISO 2012", bu thinks like "Bill Gates is this, Microsoft is that, Windows is such" I'm not going to tolerate.
20100323 16:10:16< artisticdude> King Elendil: yes it is
20100323 16:10:22< rocket16> See one thing, commercial games make money, gain popularity and then die down. But OPS Games like Wesnoth are always evolving
20100323 16:10:37< King_Elendil> right
20100323 16:10:40< shadowmaster> World of Warcraft doesn't seem to have died yet.
20100323 16:10:48< artisticdude> just like the monkeys...
20100323 16:10:52< rocket16> Gambit: Yes, it works. But people simply don't like Warzone2100
20100323 16:10:55< shadowmaster> neither the Final Fantasy series, etc.
20100323 16:10:59< Blarumyrran> rocket16, commercial gains get far more complete before dying than open-source games before dying
20100323 16:11:04< Gambit> rocket16: Wow. I am leaving now.
20100323 16:11:04< Blarumyrran> games*
20100323 16:11:08< shadowmaster> rocket16: Zarel would kick you for that comment btw
20100323 16:11:11< Blarumyrran> I can't believe I wrote gains instead of games
20100323 16:11:24< Gambit> WZ2100 is better than any commercial rts's I've played recently
20100323 16:11:40< artisticdude> Amen to that.
20100323 16:11:41< King_Elendil> Gambit:you're leaving?
20100323 16:12:00< Gambit> King_Elendil: This tangent in the conversation yes. I'm going back to discussing this monkey mod :
20100323 16:12:00< rocket16> Zarel? Why? (And Warzone is nice, but it lacks a Building-up and fight system)
20100323 16:12:09< Gambit> :
20100323 16:12:11< King_Elendil> oh
20100323 16:12:22< Gambit> Wow I keep hitting enter instead of shift.
20100323 16:12:41< Gambit> Isn't warzone 2100 all about building and fighting?
20100323 16:12:48< artisticdude> Zarel=WZ2100 developer
20100323 16:12:49< Gambit> At least that's all I do when I play it :P
20100323 16:13:01< shadowmaster> Gambit: indeed it is
20100323 16:13:09< artisticdude> Same here.
20100323 16:13:20< shadowmaster> that makes the above comment all the more jarring
20100323 16:13:26< rocket16> Gambit: Yes, but collecting resources aren't nice. And it is no match for AoM, to us
20100323 16:13:36< Gambit> for we are many?
20100323 16:13:54< shadowmaster> rocket16: that your little community doesn't play Game X doesn't mean that nobody plays Game X  :x
20100323 16:13:56< rocket16> artisticdude: Then I need to run away from Zarel
20100323 16:14:15 * King_Elendil hides
20100323 16:14:15< artisticdude> That would be a good idea : P
20100323 16:14:16< Gambit> I love the sandcastle and hide and seek maps
20100323 16:14:24< Gambit> I'll devote an entire big square to landing pads
20100323 16:14:49 * King_Elendil will return in a moment
20100323 16:14:49< Gambit> and make a massive airforce and set them on patrol around two spots above the enemy base
20100323 16:14:55< artisticdude> I wish the screen resolution was higher though
20100323 16:14:58< rocket16> shadowmaster: I am simply saying that, "our community wants this", not "boycott this game x" And, our community refers to more than 1000000000 Indians,
20100323 16:15:08< Gambit> The AA turrets can only take down one or two before 
20100323 16:15:11< Gambit> lolwut?
20100323 16:15:17< rocket16> So, they aren't "little"
20100323 16:15:27< Jarkko> Gambit: I was extremely delighted, when I learned the true purpose of Sensors x)
20100323 16:15:32< Blarumyrran> rocket16, I have a decillion eskimos on my side though
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20100323 16:16:05< Gambit> population of india: 1,129,866,154
20100323 16:16:05< artisticdude> But then the monkeys find the coconut cannon...
20100323 16:16:13< shadowmaster> okay, /37
20100323 16:16:16< rocket16> Blarumyrran: But India is the most populous country (more than China too, because most poors here do not appear in the sensus
20100323 16:16:16< shadowmaster> crap
20100323 16:16:28< Blarumyrran> rocket16, and you know every Indian personally?
20100323 16:16:47< Gambit> rocket16: You're only 129 thousand short of having every single Indian!
20100323 16:16:55< rocket16> Blarymyrran: lol, nice joke. I don't, but our newspapers do,:)
20100323 16:16:57 * Jarkko senses, that the conversation is at the brink of turning very, very awkward...
20100323 16:17:00< Gambit> Congratulations; that is a huge accomplishment!
20100323 16:17:11< Blarumyrran> rocket16, your newspapers speak about warzone? o_O
20100323 16:17:12< artisticdude> No, there are some in my house somewhere that were overlooked...
20100323 16:17:20< Gambit> I didn't even know they all had computers and internet.
20100323 16:17:30< Gambit> Simple amazing rocket16.
20100323 16:17:34< shadowmaster> Gambit: uh.
20100323 16:17:44< VurtualRuler98> Hey guys, while you get in an argument about india's lameness, I would like to note my ascension to ultimate nerd.
20100323 16:17:50< Gambit> shadowmaster: ?
20100323 16:17:54< rocket16> Blarymyrran: Certainly, we Indians are great Linux fans, especially Ubuntu, GUbuntu pages are given along with Weekend magazines and newspapers
20100323 16:18:01< VurtualRuler98> I have spent all night writing a song. Well, playing it on an instrument.
20100323 16:18:10< shadowmaster> rocket16: yeah, we don't want to know about that. Can we carry on already? :)
20100323 16:18:11< VurtualRuler98> The imperial march! On an ocarina! In ocarina of time!
20100323 16:18:27< rocket16> Gambit: In India, Computers are now even being operated by Farmers, in remote villages
20100323 16:18:35< King_Elendil> What instrument
20100323 16:18:37< VurtualRuler98> Now it's almost like America!
20100323 16:18:41< rocket16> shadowmaster: Certainly
20100323 16:18:44< Blarumyrran> rocket16, yeah, but you'd better have some pretty strong statistics behind if you claim that one billion indians know of Warzone, and think that it is bad
20100323 16:18:47< VurtualRuler98> King_Elendil, the ocarina in ocarina of time.
20100323 16:18:50< Gambit> And they all hate Warzone 2100.
20100323 16:19:02< VurtualRuler98> It's the only instrument I can remotely play right now, since it's the only one I have.
20100323 16:19:17< Gambit> Ig2g. If I don't stop litterally laughing out loud my mom will know I'm not working on precalculus :P
20100323 16:19:26< shadowmaster> Gambit: precalculus?!
20100323 16:19:28< VurtualRuler98> precalculus is funny
20100323 16:19:34< Blarumyrran> What's precalculus
20100323 16:19:47< King_Elendil> oh
20100323 16:19:48< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: like calculus, but preceding it
20100323 16:19:49< rocket16> Blarumyrran: No, they don't, but one Poll was made in the PApers recently, about the best Ubuntu game. There, Warzone and TuxRacer were the least-voted entries)
20100323 16:19:50< VurtualRuler98> Since it's a song if you convert some letters into notes.
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20100323 16:19:59< VurtualRuler98> oh come on
20100323 16:20:07< artisticdude> something I'm gonna know about really soon, I suspect (next year or two)
20100323 16:20:07< VurtualRuler98> tuxracer has like, 5 stars in the add/remove.
20100323 16:20:39< Gambit> artisticdude: mode +o means shadowmasta is a chargin hiz lazah
20100323 16:20:40< VurtualRuler98> Suddenly, silence. Thousands of it.
20100323 16:20:53< rocket16> VurtualRuler98: May be, Ok I am t---much offtopic, :(
20100323 16:21:31 * rocket16 hates Warzone
20100323 16:21:31< VurtualRuler98> Now to invent a wesnoth ocarina minigame using units you attack.
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20100323 16:22:00<@shadowmaster> rocket16: I think I already said "carry on"
20100323 16:22:46< artisticdude> is precalculus difficult?
20100323 16:22:56<@shadowmaster> rocket16: no, you are not disturbing me, but just being generally annoying or ridiculous :(
20100323 16:23:04< Blarumyrran> artisticdude, I bet it's less difficult than calculus
20100323 16:23:08< Gambit> It's just a little bit higher than Algebra 2
20100323 16:23:15< Gambit> And a little bit lower than calculus.
20100323 16:23:29< artisticdude> In that case, I'm safe
20100323 16:23:33< Blarumyrran> Gambit, do they actually give numbers to subjects taught in schools in US?
20100323 16:23:33< Gambit> With a heavy focus on trig functions.
20100323 16:24:11< Gambit> Blarumyrran: Do you mean numbers in the names or an order?
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20100323 16:24:19< Gambit> They name the math classes with numbers until highschool.
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20100323 16:24:38< Blarumyrran> I mean, that is silly. "Alphabet 1", "Alphabet 2"
20100323 16:24:47< Gambit> Then it goes pre-algebra, algebra 1, geometry, algebra 2, precalculus, calculus, trigonometry
20100323 16:25:05< Gambit> And that's all the higher my highschool goes, so I dunno what's after that.
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20100323 16:26:23< Gambit> I won't make it to trig :(
20100323 16:26:37< shadowmaster> bleh, trigonometry
20100323 16:26:52< Gambit> I skipped prealgebra and did A1 in middle school, but I'm still one year short :'(
20100323 16:27:22< Blarumyrran> trigonometry is only knowing a couple of formulas, and nothing more
20100323 16:27:37< shadowmaster> it doesn't seem so easy here
20100323 16:28:29< artisticdude> I hate memorizing formulas
20100323 16:30:33< artisticdude> As it happens I took a math test this morning. Go figure.
20100323 16:32:21< shadowmaster> nah, last afternoon for me
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20100323 16:38:56< Jarkko> Okay, it's time for me to go.
20100323 16:39:02< Jarkko> See y'all later.
20100323 16:39:03< King_Elendil> bye!
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20100323 16:41:02< King_Elendil> what's the weather like down in Chile, shadowmaster?
20100323 16:41:11< shadowmaster> depends on the region
20100323 16:41:22< Gambit> in santiago :P
20100323 16:41:46< shadowmaster> Santiago isn't Chile despite what uneducated journalists may want you to believe
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20100323 16:42:51< artisticdude> It's nearly eighty already where I am. : /
20100323 16:43:06< Gambit> Is it not a city in chile and therefore qualifys as a region on which your answer to King_Elendil's question depends?
20100323 16:43:17< shadowmaster> I think wikipedia does a better job at describing Chile's climatic characteristics than I could ever hope to do.
20100323 16:43:26< King_Elendil> where you live
20100323 16:43:59< shadowmaster> it varies from "horribly hot" in Summer to "horribly cold" in Winter.
20100323 16:44:23< King_Elendil> how cold?
20100323 16:44:56< Blarumyrran> horribly
20100323 16:45:01< King_Elendil> we got down to 8 degrees Fahrenheit this year
20100323 16:45:18< Gambit> I think this is a way of saying I don't want to answer.
20100323 16:45:24< Gambit> Please stop asking.
20100323 16:45:27< shadowmaster> it can get around -5 °C in winter
20100323 16:45:32< Gambit> nevermind -_-
20100323 16:45:41< sevis> That's not too bad...
20100323 16:45:43< Blarumyrran> We got -44 c in winter
20100323 16:45:44< shadowmaster> but that's the minimum in the morning; it usually stays above 0°C during the day always
20100323 16:45:46< King_Elendil> lol 
20100323 16:46:08< shadowmaster> yeah, I couldn't even hope to live in Europe with such conditions
20100323 16:46:16< King_Elendil> hmm, that's a lot colder than it got in Hawaii
20100323 16:46:28< shadowmaster> (anyway, were you asking me for my subjective view on the climate, or did you want the wikipedia article?)
20100323 16:46:52< Blarumyrran> (but I don't think I've experienced lower than -35 myself)
20100323 16:47:03< King_Elendil> your view would be fine
20100323 16:47:35< Gambit> so shadowmaster: what was the "loose screw" thing about?
20100323 16:48:28< artisticdude> My stomach tells me it is time for lunch. See you guys around.
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20100323 16:48:46< shadowmaster> it is lunch time here as well.
20100323 16:48:54< shadowmaster> I wish I had lunch, though.
20100323 16:49:25< Blarumyrran> Coffee renders lunch obsolete
20100323 16:49:50< shadowmaster> no, it doesn't.
20100323 16:50:12< shadowmaster> my stomach hurts if I drink coffee and never have more food than the morning snack
20100323 16:50:57< Blarumyrran> Then your stomach is deprecated
20100323 16:51:07< shadowmaster> yeah, pretty muc
20100323 16:51:29< King_Elendil> well, I have somewhere to go, so bye for now. see you later shadowmaster :), and the rest of you'ns
20100323 16:51:48< shadowmaster> too bad that replacing it isn't as easy as upgrading Failfox
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20100323 16:52:32< Blarumyrran> Why do you use Failfox(tm) then?
20100323 16:52:57< Gambit> Because IE7+ doesn't work on his OS.
20100323 16:53:31< Blarumyrran> I remember Konqueror was terrible, but Opera works on linux too I think
20100323 16:54:13< shadowmaster> Gambit: nah, IE 8 still sucks
20100323 16:54:39< Blarumyrran> IE8 is the only modern browser not to support any svg for one
20100323 16:54:48< shadowmaster> why I still use Failfox: I can't change habits and get used to e.g. Opera or Chrome now
20100323 16:54:49< Gambit> really?
20100323 16:54:57< shadowmaster> different UIs, not the same feature set, etc.
20100323 16:55:29< Gambit> cause this works just fine for me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US-O5_insignia.svg
20100323 16:55:29< Blarumyrran> ... how many features do you need.
20100323 16:55:37< shadowmaster> IE 8 doesn't support some CSS 3 stuff that was specified in CSS 2 either
20100323 16:55:50< Blarumyrran> I mean, I use mostly 3 features - the url bar, Back, and Refresh
20100323 16:56:40< Blarumyrran> And okay, Open in New Tab. That's 4.
20100323 16:56:45< Gambit> Nevermind you're right. It's .svg.png xD
20100323 17:00:04< Blarumyrran> IE used to have the best SVG support
20100323 17:00:19< Blarumyrran> Because it used to come with a plugin made by adobe itself
20100323 17:00:29< Blarumyrran> But not anymore :(
20100323 17:04:17< shadowmaster> poor hopelessly broken IE
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20100323 17:07:37< Liam> where is th music located in a windows install
20100323 17:08:00< Blarumyrran> Wesnoth/data/core/music, I think
20100323 17:08:19< shadowmaster> yeah
20100323 17:08:52< Liam> its just i love the musc but cant seem to find it thanks for the help
20100323 17:09:16< Gambit> You'll need something that can play .ogg files.
20100323 17:09:25< Gambit> And since you're on windows I doubt it came with that.
20100323 17:09:43< VurtualRuler98> Call me when you translate it into single-octave or so notes which can be divided up into 16 defined notes/short pauses/drawn out notes.
20100323 17:09:55< VurtualRuler98> Also I'm pretty sure windows can load oggs fine.
20100323 17:10:03< VurtualRuler98> My vista computer could from the start.
20100323 17:10:11< Blarumyrran> Windows itself loads them? :o :o
20100323 17:10:17< Liam> VurtualRuler98, you a correct
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20100323 17:10:26< VurtualRuler98> I'm a correct! Yay!
20100323 17:10:52< Liam> haha
20100323 17:11:02< Gambit> What version of windows do you have? :s
20100323 17:11:14< Liam> xp pro
20100323 17:11:21< Gambit> I'm on Vista Ultimate and I don't get built in .ogg support :(
20100323 17:11:49< Liam> Gambit, strange
20100323 17:11:54< Blarumyrran> Am I really missing something - or how does support for some forma depend on the os?
20100323 17:11:58< Blarumyrran> format*
20100323 17:12:07< Gambit> Blarumyrran: The software that comes with the OS :P
20100323 17:12:08< shadowmaster> it doesn't
20100323 17:12:27< sevis> Hm, I've never seen pre-installed ogg support on Windows.
20100323 17:12:28< shadowmaster> right, it depends on the applications. However, most people won't notice a different between either
20100323 17:12:35< shadowmaster> difference
20100323 17:12:52< Gambit> WinAmp 8-)
20100323 17:13:05< Gambit> I think 98 second edition had winamp preinstalled.
20100323 17:13:10< shadowmaster> no
20100323 17:13:24< shadowmaster> Microsoft doesn't provide that crap preinstalled. Your OEM might do it, however.
20100323 17:14:53 * Liam likes the fact that bfw works on his netbook
20100323 17:14:55< VurtualRuler98> Well who wouldn't install winamp instantly?
20100323 17:14:57< sevis> Would it be possible to modify and compile an .ogg decoder to use as a kernel module?
20100323 17:14:59< VurtualRuler98> It's like having a mouse nowadays
20100323 17:15:04< Gambit> Winamp != crap
20100323 17:15:11< Gambit> Winamp is the greatest music player of all time
20100323 17:15:26< Gambit> period. end of discussion. nothing to add. finished. elvis has left the building.
20100323 17:15:32< Liam> songbird ftw
20100323 17:15:43< VurtualRuler98> There's a few which have a few functions winamp can't really do as well.
20100323 17:15:48< VurtualRuler98> But generally winamp is best.
20100323 17:15:52< Blarumyrran> Liam, I tried songbird and it was really buggy
20100323 17:15:53< sevis> mplayer here.
20100323 17:16:20< Liam> takes its time to load but idc
20100323 17:16:35< Blarumyrran> If I accidentally scrolled the... scrollable thingy before the file has properly loaded, songbird crashed
20100323 17:17:00< Liam> Blarumyrran, what vrsion tho
20100323 17:17:06< Blarumyrran> I don't remember
20100323 17:17:13< Blarumyrran> Less than a year ago
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20100323 17:22:36 * Liam loves pure instrumental music
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20100323 17:26:06< Gambit> Man nobody is making cool art today.
20100323 17:27:28 * Liam needs feedback on my site www.webportal.louwizz.com 
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20100323 17:37:50< Gambit> Blarumyrran: what are the guys to the right in this picture: http://exong.net/wesnoth-attach/files/kokkuvote_758.png
20100323 17:37:53< Gambit> And may I use them?
20100323 17:38:19< Blarumyrran> Demons; and I don't know what you'd want to use them for, they're horrible
20100323 17:38:24< Blarumyrran> My first sprites
20100323 17:39:35< Gambit> A tribal race that may randomly appear on random planets :P
20100323 17:39:48< Gambit> Because I know you're so fond of that concept.
20100323 17:40:15< Blarumyrran> ... I may make a better "tribal race that may randomly appear on random planets" in half an hour
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20100323 17:41:53< Gambit> interesting. I may give you random forms of thanks at random periods of time afterwards :o
20100323 17:43:05< Blarumyrran> What should they be shaped like :o
20100323 17:43:27< Gambit> I dunno, I'm kind of fond of those ant people.
20100323 17:43:51< Gambit> At least they remind me of ants.
20100323 17:43:59< Blarumyrran> They're not meant to
20100323 17:44:14< Blarumyrran> They had etruscan names, because at the time I thought etruscans are all the rage
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20100323 18:05:35< Gambit> Basically it's outer *freaking* space and I want to include art that hasn't had a lot of limelight.
20100323 18:05:51< Blarumyrran> Oh I may give you a lot of that
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20100323 18:12:17< Blarumyrran> Gambit, http://www.speedyshare.com/files/21580354/some_units.zip here are some
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20100323 18:14:22< Gambit> Blarumyrran: neat. Thanks.
20100323 18:14:38< Gambit> especially the fish and the shroom
20100323 18:14:44< Blarumyrran> you are welcome
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20100323 19:09:03< [Relic]> Hello :)
20100323 19:10:59< Blarumyrran> Hello :)
20100323 19:10:59< Blarumyrran> :)
20100323 19:11:17< [Relic]> :)
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20100323 19:17:48< roanduku> hey guys
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20100323 19:25:27< Gambit> Hi
20100323 19:26:32< Gambit> How do video game reviews work on games that are always changing and don't die?
20100323 19:26:39< Gambit> Wesnoth hasn't been reviewed in a while.
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20100323 19:35:42< Gambit> knee: Will you be putting your project on the add-on server?
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20100323 20:18:16< King_Elendil> Gambit: you still here?
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20100323 20:21:44< King_Elendil> hello
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20100323 20:38:50< artisticdude> So what's happening here now?
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20100323 21:03:25< StealthyCoin> does anyone know the compression level of the gz replays that wesnoth saves?
20100323 21:05:56< zookeeper> no idea, but why do you need to know?
20100323 21:07:19< StealthyCoin> So that I can read them.
20100323 21:07:38< StealthyCoin> Im just going to assume 9
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20100323 21:11:11< Ivanovic> ehm, to read them: gunzip SAVEGAME.gz
20100323 21:11:21< Ivanovic> voila, you got plaintext files
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20100323 21:27:54< Gambit> Don't uncompressed saves allow them to be open in any text editor?
20100323 21:28:09< Gambit> It's an option in the preferences.
20100323 21:28:17< Gambit> StealthyCoin: ^^
20100323 21:29:06< StealthyCoin> I am writing a parser. I need to be able to decompress them once they have been uploaded to a server. To do that I need the compress level.
20100323 21:30:33< Gambit> Neat.
20100323 21:31:37< StealthyCoin> It works for text files, but if I upload a gzip file obviously I need to be able to convert it.
20100323 21:33:02< Unnheulu> cave maps look so ugly -.-
20100323 21:33:27< Samwise> Why? I like the atmosphere
20100323 21:33:36< Unnheulu> but there isn't enough tiles
20100323 21:33:47< Unnheulu> eg, in my campaign my outside maps look sooooo much better
20100323 21:34:05< Samwise> How to create tiles anyway.. lol im a noob
20100323 21:34:17< Ivanovic> StealthyCoin: ehm, you do not need the compression level for this
20100323 21:34:23< Ivanovic> 1) gunzip it
20100323 21:34:41< Ivanovic> 2) compress it again at the end, it will "just work"
20100323 21:34:54< Ivanovic> 3) leave it uncompressed, the game is able to load uncompressed files, too
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20100323 21:36:39< StealthyCoin> No need for the second half. But I am using python for the decompression. Haven't started that part but the list of arguments for the gzip object is (filename, type, compressionlevel, file) with compression level defaulting to 9. It may nit matter by the time I get there I just wanted to check.
20100323 21:37:13< Ivanovic> you don't have to use your python script for uncompressing
20100323 21:37:35< Ivanovic> just run 2 levels:
20100323 21:37:41< Ivanovic> 1) a shellscript uncompressing
20100323 21:37:55< Ivanovic> 2) the shellscript calling your python parser
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20100323 21:38:49< StealthyCoin> Can a shell script uncompress the data as a string? No file uploaded.
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20100323 22:40:20< StealthyCoin> it appears to be 9
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20100323 23:05:33< roanduku> c u :)
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20100323 23:39:13< eyerouge> is there more official Wesnoth lore except for the one found on >>http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Play  ?
20100323 23:39:31< eyerouge> lore/canon/backgroundstories
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20100323 23:44:42< Gambit> wiki search history
20100323 23:45:00< Gambit> check the writers forum
20100323 23:45:28< Gambit> You can also find campaign transcripts so you can get the full stories in those without having to beat them
20100323 23:45:36< Gambit> There is a lot more history than what's in the game.
20100323 23:46:02< Gambit> And quite a bit more that hasn't be released yet because it's still being planned out (so I was told the other day anyway).
20100323 23:46:53< eyerouge> Gambit: Thank you for the help =)
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