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20100325 00:02:00< Gambit> Zero Punctuation insulted Fox news today... :\
20100325 00:06:14< Gambit> Actually I guess it's a compliment because BC2 is by far the best realistic shooter so far.
20100325 00:06:34< Gambit> But he meant it as an insult and that's what doesn't go down easy.
20100325 00:06:41< HerrStrauss> It's not hard to insult Fox News
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20100325 00:07:05< Gambit> Not any harder than insulting their opponents no :)
20100325 00:07:19< HerrStrauss> It does have the largest news share though
20100325 00:07:29< Gambit> And the best mix of both parties.
20100325 00:07:35< AbortD> has anyone had problems with not being able to click buttons in ubuntu wesnoth?
20100325 00:07:38< Gambit> Er all three parties if you count those without.
20100325 00:07:51< Gambit> AbortD: Something about you need to downgrade SDL.
20100325 00:08:01< AbortD> SDL?
20100325 00:08:38< HerrStrauss> It's been impossible for me to respect Fox News when they managed to win a court case saying their news didn't need to be factual
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20100325 01:38:51< Gambit> Darn  you netsplit. I needed to talk to Aethaeryn.
20100325 01:39:04< Gambit> Oh wait he's back.
20100325 01:39:26< Gambit> Aethaeryn: I have a few thunderstone related questions.
20100325 01:39:45< Aethaeryn> Darn, you netsplit. I needed to talk to Gambit.
20100325 01:39:48< Aethaeryn> Oh wait he's back.
20100325 01:39:56< Aethaeryn> Gambit: I have a few thunderstone related answers.
20100325 01:40:15< Gambit> Well I'm not so sure I'll be able to answer them. :)
20100325 01:40:26< Gambit> Oh wait you said answers :$
20100325 01:40:38< Gambit> Does the galaxy have a name?
20100325 01:40:55< Gambit> Also did Wesnothians ever get out of the Sela system?
20100325 01:41:09< Aethaeryn> Gambit: try the appropriate #Wesnoth-Thunderstone chan.
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20100325 01:58:06< GermusXeno> Trying to get a game going online
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20100325 02:46:08< Zarel> Hey, guys.
20100325 02:46:09< Zarel> Re: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29313
20100325 02:46:15< Zarel> Who wants to record such a replay?
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20100325 03:23:10< King_Elendil> Hello wesnothians
20100325 03:23:27< qemqemqem> hello King_Elindil
20100325 03:23:46< King_Elendil> are you a member of the forums?
20100325 03:24:37< Gambit> Zarel: Who would want a 50 Cent video game?
20100325 03:24:57< King_Elendil> not me
20100325 03:29:38< Gambit> Oh. Disregard 50 cent comments "The greatest drake player of all time" comment was apparently sarcastic.
20100325 03:29:46< Zarel> rofl
20100325 03:29:55< Gambit> :$
20100325 03:30:06< Zarel> Gambit: I just tried it with an AI.
20100325 03:30:16< Zarel> I gave myself 400 starting gold and +18 gold/turn
20100325 03:30:17< Zarel> And still loast.
20100325 03:30:19< Zarel> lost*
20100325 03:30:38< Gambit> I thought he was serious unstil I actually started digesting the advice.
20100325 03:31:43< Gambit> Now I don't get the point of the thread.
20100325 03:31:48< Gambit> It really should be moved to off topic.
20100325 03:31:59< Gambit> People go to Strategies and Tips for *serious* advice.
20100325 03:32:06< Gambit> They don't know how to play and need help.
20100325 03:32:20< Gambit> Like technical support, it isn't the place for any joking.
20100325 03:32:44 * King_Elendil agrees 
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20100325 03:54:47< King_Elendil> Ancestral: thanks for mentioning Colloquy. I really like it a-lot. :)
20100325 03:55:07< ancestral> Yay! You're welcome
20100325 03:55:31< King_Elendil> I can't remember, do you use a mac or linux
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20100325 03:59:04< King_Elendil> Has Zerovirus been here lately?
20100325 04:00:37< Gambit> No
20100325 04:00:42< Gambit> He's back off spring break.
20100325 04:00:50< Gambit> Back to school
20100325 04:01:02< King_Elendil> oh. yeah forgot about that.
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20100325 04:07:46< TKerrygan> how do I install new ages?
20100325 04:07:50< TKerrygan> hello, btw
20100325 04:08:18< King_Elendil> hello, and what do you mean "ages", era's?
20100325 04:09:09< TKerrygan> yes... I'm from Argentina. My english is not good...
20100325 04:09:20< TKerrygan> eras
20100325 04:09:47< Gambit> Click the button labled Add-Ons
20100325 04:10:00< King_Elendil> oh, that's fine. in your wesnoth main menu, you should have an add-ons button
20100325 04:10:08< King_Elendil> Gambit beat me to it lol
20100325 04:10:33< King_Elendil> there are all the user-made eras
20100325 04:10:53< TKerrygan> oh!
20100325 04:11:09< TKerrygan> tx. I'll see now. Hum...
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20100325 04:23:12< Gambit> 500 trials with the solar system generator. 3 suns: 3. 2 suns: 46. 1 sun: 452
20100325 04:23:33< King_Elendil> wha?
20100325 04:23:50< Gambit> for some reason after updating to release client 1 I can't use a new_turn event or it crashes.
20100325 04:24:02< Gambit> So I switched it to a select event and I just can't stand to click more than 500 times.
20100325 04:24:22< Gambit> King_Elendil: The number of systems with that many suns.
20100325 04:24:28< Gambit> There were 3 systems that had three suns.
20100325 04:24:37< Gambit> 452 that had just one sun
20100325 04:24:43< King_Elendil> oh
20100325 04:24:46< Gambit> anywho, good night.
20100325 04:24:53< King_Elendil> good noght
20100325 04:25:00< King_Elendil> *night
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20100325 08:17:50< rocket16> Hello all, made a new channel named "##linux-light" about any Linux discussion,Please join if you like, 
20100325 08:18:37< ancestral> Uh, really?
20100325 08:18:43< ancestral> Um… okay?
20100325 08:18:56< rocket16> Yes, :) Anything wrong?
20100325 08:19:09< ancestral> Nope! Nothing wrong :)
20100325 08:19:40< rocket16> Thanks ancertral, :) Please join if you like, :)
20100325 08:21:59< rocket16> Really need some of my friends like you there, to make it crowded, and to have discussions, :)
20100325 08:22:27< rocket16> Is here anybody interested?
20100325 08:22:40< Blueblaze> nope
20100325 08:22:43< Blueblaze> no one is interested
20100325 08:22:43< rocket16> No force, just a request though.
20100325 08:22:45< Blueblaze> have a nice day!
20100325 08:22:46< Blueblaze> :D
20100325 08:23:04< rocket16> Thank you, but is it the saying of everybody? I don't think so
20100325 08:25:18< rocket16> Blueblaze: Did you just joined and left? :)
20100325 08:26:41 * rocket16 is sad to have lost Blueblaze
20100325 08:34:37< rocket16> Ah, Blueblaze, so you are from Houston, nice place
20100325 08:35:04< rocket16> But is your AT&T INTERNET SERVICES nice there?
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20100325 08:51:04< Blueblaze> It's okay
20100325 08:51:08< Blueblaze> It's the fastest internet here for the price
20100325 08:51:15< rocket16> Well, :)
20100325 08:51:23< Blueblaze> There is a pretty big monopoly on DSL internet services here
20100325 08:51:26< Blueblaze> so it could be better
20100325 08:51:44< rocket16> Well,
20100325 08:52:12< rocket16> Our Internet is very bad, Mobile Broadband, and only 100 KBPS Speed,
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20100325 09:53:56< StealthyCoin> anyone here that is smartyful?
20100325 09:54:21< Smar> smar desu. 
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20100325 09:55:07< StealthyCoin> I have a replay file that I am currently looking at, with incorrect information in it. If I watch it though it is interpreted correctly somehow.
20100325 09:55:22< StealthyCoin> there are [recruit] tags with x/y locations that are nowhere near a castle hex
20100325 09:56:13< StealthyCoin> and then next turn move tags from the castle hexes where they should have been made, never referencing these odd spots again. How does the game figure out where they actually went,
20100325 09:58:47< StealthyCoin> also three duplicate locations for recruiting in a row.
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20100325 10:26:47< Ivanovic> moin
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20100325 12:46:06< Jarkko> Blarumyrran: Hello there
20100325 12:46:19< Blarumyrran> Why hello Jarkko.
20100325 12:46:35< Jarkko> And how are you today? :)
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20100325 12:47:02< Blarumyrran> I am doing well on this fine day; how are you?
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20100325 12:48:49< Jarkko> Doing quite okay. A bit stressed, but fine either way.
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20100325 14:03:34< King_Elendil> hello artisticdude!
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20100325 14:25:49< artisticdude_> Hi, King Elendil. Sorry I'm a bit late, I forget I was still logged in here and was off doing other things. :(
20100325 14:26:02< King_Elendil> np
20100325 14:26:25< King_Elendil> did you try Colloquy?
20100325 14:27:02< artisticdude_> not yet. I was up late again last night, and slept through the alarm... again. :(
20100325 14:27:47< artisticdude_> But tonight I'm waking up early, even if it kills me. :P
20100325 14:28:08< King_Elendil> I was up late to, but my alarm is really loud so i got up. :p
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20100325 14:29:05< King_Elendil> I'm considering starting a campaign for "The White Lich".
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20100325 14:29:23< artisticdude_> Really? That would be really interesting.
20100325 14:30:18< King_Elendil> yeah, but I'm not sure if I can do it yet. I don't have any experience with coding, but it might be doable.
20100325 14:30:53< King_Elendil> and Jarkko might want to do it or something
20100325 14:31:17< King_Elendil> Jarkko: you there?
20100325 14:31:26< artisticdude_> My advice, for any campaign you create: start simple at first. If you try to make it too complex you'll end up frustrated (I speak from experience).
20100325 14:32:04< King_Elendil> yep, that might be one of my problem, I think big. :p
20100325 14:32:15< King_Elendil> *problems
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20100325 14:33:27< artisticdude_> Whatever you do, don't make oversized maps... that's the biggest mistake you can make (again, I've tread that path before :[ ).
20100325 14:34:10< King_Elendil> thanks for the tip. I probably would have made that mistake
20100325 14:35:40< artisticdude_> My first campaign, the traitor (which no longer works for some unknown reason), was sixteen scenarios of oversized, boring maps for the most part... especially one scenario where I had 9 sides that all recruited only lvl 2 and lvl 3 units.
20100325 14:35:40< artisticdude_> My first campaign, the traitor (which no longer works for some unknown reason), was sixteen scenarios of oversized, boring maps for the most part... especially one scenario where I had 9 sides that all recruited only lvl 2 and lvl 3 units.
20100325 14:37:26< artisticdude_> Although there was actually a lot of complex WML in there (complex for me at that stage, anyway). I might brush the campaign up at some point, but I'm already juggling two campaigns and my art (I was working on music but I had to give that up recently due to schedule problems).
20100325 14:38:32< King_Elendil> Jarrko made a continent map on which tWL takes place, so that would help me out
20100325 14:38:57< artisticdude_> He did? I have to check that out...
20100325 14:39:16< King_Elendil> I don't think I'm gonna continue art, at least not on the forums yet.
20100325 14:39:56< King_Elendil> hold on I got to go, see ya later. If you have any ideas you can PM them to me. bye ;)
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20100325 18:35:10< Unnheulu> hi
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20100325 18:38:06< Unnheulu> hai noy
20100325 18:38:11< Unnheulu> you pony reply made me lol so bad
20100325 18:38:21< noy> I believe you already mentioned that
20100325 18:38:32< Unnheulu> humm, possibly :P
20100325 18:38:40< Unnheulu> Great way to stop the trolls though
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20100325 18:39:33< Unnheulu> hai
20100325 18:39:37< Unnheulu> howsa rpg going?
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20100325 18:46:27 * Unnheulu wonders if you can allow a unit to recruit who couldn't origionally
20100325 18:46:59< fendrin> Unnheulu: yes, just store him and set the canrecruit=yes variable.
20100325 18:47:09< Unnheulu> kay
20100325 18:47:30< Unnheulu> cause he's auto recalled, but halfway  through he has to be able to recruit (your hero gets trapped)
20100325 18:48:08< artisticdude> you can have two units on the same side that can both recruit?
20100325 18:48:39< Unnheulu> yeh
20100325 18:48:51< Unnheulu> in the new version, but the ai is too stupid to use it :(
20100325 18:49:31< artisticdude> Oh, so this is a new feature in the latest release? I don't have it yet.
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20100325 18:50:19< Ivanovic> it was added some time in 1.7.x
20100325 18:51:03< Gambit> The AI doesn't recruit very well even with one leader.
20100325 18:51:12< Gambit> If you make a long castle that extends the entire way around the map
20100325 18:51:17< Gambit> Instead of recruiting near the enemy.
20100325 18:51:24< Gambit> They start right at their leader and go outwards.
20100325 18:51:26< Ivanovic> those are things you just should not do
20100325 18:51:38< Ivanovic> yeah, the game *has* limitations
20100325 18:51:57< artisticdude> Hmm, I was always under the assumption that it wouldn't work, so I never tried it, but maybe it actually will work in my current version (1.7.11)
20100325 18:52:11< Gambit> artisticdude: Yeah it'll work.
20100325 18:53:03< artisticdude> Cool, I've got this one scenario somewhere that could make use of that. :)
20100325 18:53:18< Gambit> artisticdude: How is Vix? :$
20100325 18:54:16< Unnheulu> wasn't allacrost made by some wesnoth devs, or am i getting confused?
20100325 18:54:19< artisticdude> Somewhat slower than normal due to my latest projects and personal schedule, but I've got eight scenarios finished currently and I'm working on the ninth.
20100325 18:54:40< Unnheulu> Gambit: this third scenario is taking sooooooooooooo loooooooooooooooong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::::::::::(((((((((((((((
20100325 18:55:23< artisticdude> I think I'll put all my effort into finishing Vix, because right now I'm feeling kinda overwhelmed with both projects.
20100325 18:55:49< Unnheulu> wuts vix?
20100325 18:56:04< artisticdude> Then once Vix is finished, I'll be able to work solely on my RPG.
20100325 18:56:17< Gambit> Unnheulu: A cool saurian centric campaign.
20100325 18:56:21< Unnheulu> cool
20100325 18:56:27< Unnheulu> is it possible to find out when a silver mage teleports?
20100325 18:56:34< Gambit> ?
20100325 18:56:36< Unnheulu> I was making a saurian campaign once
20100325 18:56:39< Gambit> You mean trigger an event on that?
20100325 18:56:41< Unnheulu> they were the enemy though
20100325 18:56:45< Unnheulu> yeh
20100325 18:57:10< Gambit> You could filter for type=Silver mage and location is a village.
20100325 18:57:23< Gambit> But that would catch every time they move to a village.
20100325 18:57:30< Gambit> I don't think you can filter for teleportation.
20100325 18:57:39< Unnheulu> and, when he teleports he doesn't need to stop on the village
20100325 18:57:44< Unnheulu> Ivanovic: is it possible?
20100325 18:58:03< zookeeper> no, not possible
20100325 18:58:19< Unnheulu> ok :(
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20100325 19:00:06< artisticdude> speaking of which, do you think saurian magic users are female or male?
20100325 19:00:28< Unnheulu> female :/
20100325 19:01:38< artisticdude> there's a topic in the user's forum that links to an article on the wiki that says all magic users are males and all the fighters are females. I've always thought it was the other way around. :$
20100325 19:03:16< Gambit> Why?
20100325 19:03:21< Gambit> You think females can't fight :P
20100325 19:03:51< Gambit> Way to be a 21st century man there ;)
20100325 19:03:58< artisticdude> Well they didn't in midieval times, which is what wesnoth is primarily based on, if it can be said to be based on anything
20100325 19:04:06< Gambit> We didn't have lizard people either.
20100325 19:04:40< Gambit> I would point towards mantises, lions, spiders, etc.
20100325 19:04:43< Unnheulu> assuming we evolved from them, there was once a point whenw e were half human half lizard :)
20100325 19:05:02< Gambit> Yes well you shouldn't assume that in mixed company.
20100325 19:05:06< artisticdude> I'm not entirely sure why I think that, it's just the way I've subconsciously decided it when I first started playing wesnoth. Amazonian ideas don't really float my boat.
20100325 19:05:20< Gambit> You guys are on a political correctness roll today. XD
20100325 19:05:55< artisticdude> Lol, but I don't believe we have or had any lizard-like ancestors. :P
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20100325 19:07:00< Gambit> Well the theory of evolution states we came from fish like things.
20100325 19:07:10< Gambit> If you believe that sort of thing.
20100325 19:07:38< artisticdude> I mean, I'm not a sexist, at least I don't consider myself as such, but I've always understood it was the male's duty to protect his family.
20100325 19:07:41< Sacho> it's only a question of belief if you are religious.
20100325 19:07:56< Gambit> If you're into scientology maybe the aliens were lizard like.
20100325 19:08:06< Gambit> Sacho: There are varying degrees.
20100325 19:08:12< Sacho> otherwise, if you don't have a theory that models evolution better than, you know, the theory of evolution...
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20100325 19:08:25< Gambit> I personally believe in creation, but that His creations are able to evolve.
20100325 19:08:33< Gambit> To flat out deny evolution is pure retardery.
20100325 19:08:36< Sacho> based on what evidence?
20100325 19:08:45< Sacho> if no evidence => goto belief
20100325 19:08:49< artisticdude> There is much more evidence against evolution than for it, you know. :P
20100325 19:08:55< Gambit> What?
20100325 19:09:10< Sacho> Gambit: scientists aren't interested in beliefs :p
20100325 19:09:19< Sacho> Really, you can believe whatever you want.
20100325 19:09:23< Gambit> Indeed.
20100325 19:09:26< Sacho> hence, <Sacho> it's only a question of belief if you are religious.
20100325 19:09:40< artisticdude> Now it depends on what kind of evolution you're talking about, microevolution or macroevolution. Microevolution does indeed take place,  but macroevolution has never been proven, but there is significantly more evidence against it than for it.
20100325 19:09:41< Sacho> Otherwise, bring a better theory to the table.
20100325 19:09:44< Gambit> You believe what you wanna believe
20100325 19:09:51< Gambit> but you don't have to live like a refugee.
20100325 19:09:53< Sacho> artisticdude: bring a better theory to the table
20100325 19:10:00 * Gambit breaks into song on his way to lunch.
20100325 19:10:20< artisticdude> I'm getting the tomes out. Stand back. :P
20100325 19:10:44< zenhoobbit> hai
20100325 19:12:00< zenhoobbit> some guy in the lobby continue to write in caps...
20100325 19:12:11< Unnheulu> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8587231.stm
20100325 19:12:13< Unnheulu> *sigh*
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20100325 19:12:28< Unnheulu> Why must the Americans wind everyone up?
20100325 19:13:00< noy> uh, why should we even care what he says?
20100325 19:13:32< Unnheulu> Cause he'll blow up teh Americas :P
20100325 19:13:55< noy> he's been effectively marginalized by the United States
20100325 19:13:59< noy> and its allies
20100325 19:14:05< artisticdude> The fossil record: against macroevolution, structural homology: formerly evidence for, now against macroevolution, molecular biology: evidence against macroevolution, the cambrian explosion: evidence against macroevolution.
20100325 19:14:37< Unnheulu> noy: its allies?
20100325 19:14:53< Unnheulu> the UK isn't going to be its allies much longer if I had my way...
20100325 19:14:54< noy> Pakistan, EU nations, Canada. 
20100325 19:15:01< noy> Arab states
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20100325 19:16:12< Unnheulu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon
20100325 19:16:12< Unnheulu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
20100325 19:16:54< Unnheulu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war
20100325 19:16:54< noy> sooo, what does that have to do with anything?
20100325 19:17:01< Unnheulu> which country caused all them?
20100325 19:17:02< Unnheulu> :)
20100325 19:17:22< Unnheulu> (oh, and just pointing out http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8586269.stm)
20100325 19:17:24< Unnheulu> :P
20100325 19:17:35< artisticdude> umm... whatever country the terrorists were from? :/
20100325 19:17:37< noy> I was nearly caught in the london bombing; my tube station was hit awhile after I was there.
20100325 19:17:40< Unnheulu> plus, america has outright stop people from some countries flying to them
20100325 19:17:51< Unnheulu> I was in barcelona during them :/
20100325 19:18:14< Unnheulu> Aargh ffs stop the strikes unions
20100325 19:18:30< artisticdude> our airline security measures are messed up anyway.
20100325 19:18:33< noy> arguably the british bombings had less to do with the Iraq war and more to do with the lagging integration of Muslim youths in the UK
20100325 19:18:46< Gambit> "The tape said that if the US made the decision to execute, al-Qaeda would also  "execute" anyone it captured. "
20100325 19:18:52< Gambit> ^^ isn't that what they do anyway? XD
20100325 19:18:56< Unnheulu> :-P
20100325 19:19:13< Unnheulu> noy: and because of britain being allies with the us
20100325 19:19:16< Gambit> Except they're nice enough to tape it and send it back for the loved ones :@
20100325 19:19:26< Unnheulu> are you british noy?
20100325 19:19:27< Gambit> Some people just want to watch the world burn.
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20100325 19:19:40< noy> I've lived there quite a bit
20100325 19:20:01< Unnheulu> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/8587671.stm :(
20100325 19:20:35< noy> why are you randomly spamming links from BBC?
20100325 19:20:43< Unnheulu> cause I'm reading it
20100325 19:20:51< Unnheulu> if only the person he attaccked *was* english
20100325 19:21:10< noy> ... whatever
20100325 19:21:38< Unnheulu> humm?
20100325 19:21:44< artisticdude> what difference does it make where the victim's from? It's still a case of unprovoked violence against an innocent person.
20100325 19:21:58< noy> Great, I can post about a dozen of those
20100325 19:22:13< Unnheulu> artisticdude: but, if he was english...
20100325 19:22:15< noy> Why are you doing it?
20100325 19:22:29< Unnheulu> I'll stop spamming links then...
20100325 19:22:50< noy> you;ve made no argument at all except to post links
20100325 19:23:18< Unnheulu> kay, due to increased security against the british, their "allies", my trousers got pulled down twice in security
20100325 19:23:36< Unnheulu> maybe I should've worn a belt, but, w/e
20100325 19:24:28< artisticdude> :/ TMI. We need a new topic, but I've gotta go. See y'all around.
20100325 19:24:33< Unnheulu> c'ya
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20100325 19:24:40< noy> If you think Its simply an anti US sentiment then you're sorely mistaken
20100325 19:24:48< Gambit> Well there's eggs and bacon, eggs sausage and bacon, egg and spam, egg bacon and spam, egg bacon sausage and spam, spam bacon sausage and spam, spam sausage spam spam spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam, spam spam spam egg and spam, Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam.
20100325 19:25:00 * Unnheulu asks what spam is
20100325 19:25:06< Gambit> Or Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce served in a  provencale manner with shallots and aubergines ,garnished with truffle pate,  brandy and a fried egg on top and spam.
20100325 19:25:08< Unnheulu> (other than annoying stuff on forums)
20100325 19:25:17< Gambit> It's processed can meat.
20100325 19:27:39< Unnheulu> kay
20100325 19:27:41< Unnheulu> processed?
20100325 19:27:45< noy> Its funny how people seem to forget history so easily in order to meet their stereotypes
20100325 19:27:56< noy> Gambit: you're being neither funny nor helpful
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20100325 19:28:25< Unnheulu> My stereotypes of england come from history :)
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20100325 19:28:37< Unnheulu> a bunch of madmen who'll stop at nothing to get their way
20100325 19:28:42< noy> Right
20100325 19:28:46< Gambit> What?
20100325 19:28:47< Unnheulu> more specifically Edward II
20100325 19:28:49< noy> who are the madmen again?
20100325 19:28:54< Unnheulu> english
20100325 19:28:55< noy> in your parallel?
20100325 19:28:55< Unnheulu> :P
20100325 19:29:20< noy> now?
20100325 19:29:21< noy> why?
20100325 19:30:09< Unnheulu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_relationship_between_the_Welsh_and_the_English
20100325 19:31:04< Unnheulu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_I#Welsh_wars
20100325 19:31:28< Unnheulu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1536-1543 <-- practically killed welsh
20100325 19:31:41< Unnheulu> enough reasons for you?
20100325 19:32:50< Gambit> Accusing the entirity of a specific race of racism... interesting.
20100325 19:33:09< Gambit> Unnheulu: This is a dark tangent.
20100325 19:33:20< Unnheulu> :)
20100325 19:33:43< Unnheulu> besides, a welshman, inside the city of Chester, in the night, can be killed legally
20100325 19:33:54< noy> What relevance does this have with me?
20100325 19:33:58< noy> or the discussion
20100325 19:34:00< Unnheulu> noy absolutely none
20100325 19:34:02< noy> I've lived in wales
20100325 19:34:09< Gambit> Unnheulu: Only with a crossbow :P
20100325 19:34:10< Unnheulu> I'm not talking against you -.-
20100325 19:34:11< noy> and they don't even want devolution
20100325 19:34:15< King_Elendil> Is it pretty?
20100325 19:34:16< Unnheulu> Gambit: thats Ireland
20100325 19:34:23< Unnheulu> (a town out there)
20100325 19:34:34< Unnheulu> noy: I was answering your fact about stereotypes
20100325 19:34:59< Unnheulu> besides, if you don't want devolution your not a real welshman ;P
20100325 19:35:06< noy> no, your stereotype is to claim that "its america's fault" about Al Qaeda
20100325 19:35:20< noy> Unnheulu: Most don't
20100325 19:35:21< Unnheulu> I was refering to another stereotype then...
20100325 19:35:38< Unnheulu> thats cause most of them are english immigrants -.-
20100325 19:35:46< King_Elendil> cya got math to do
20100325 19:36:01< noy> I lived in the welsh heartland and most don't
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20100325 19:36:34< Unnheulu> the valleys?
20100325 19:36:43< Unnheulu> the vale?
20100325 19:36:50< Unnheulu> cardiff, swansea, newport?
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20100325 19:37:19< noy> I've travelled to most of those areas, and lived in Mid-Wales
20100325 19:37:21< Gambit> King_Elendil: Short math lesson :)
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20100325 19:37:33< Unnheulu> mid wales is where most of the immigrants go (in the mountains)
20100325 19:37:43< Unnheulu> as well as the vale swansea and cardiff
20100325 19:37:47< Unnheulu> (oh and newport, forgot)
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20100325 19:39:39< noy> Uh, Ceredigion has a welsh resident rate of 54%
20100325 19:39:47< Gambit> Karmachameleon.
20100325 19:39:48< King_Elendil> yep, some delays lol
20100325 19:39:53< King_Elendil> hello
20100325 19:40:01< noy> thats among the highest
20100325 19:40:15< noy> err
20100325 19:40:26< noy> its 61%
20100325 19:41:15< King_Elendil> wow, is Whales pretty?
20100325 19:41:24< noy> it is
20100325 19:41:31< King_Elendil> cool
20100325 19:41:43< noy> but I think Parts of Western Canada and Japan are more beautiful
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20100325 19:42:06< Gambit> The hills of south central pennsylvania in the fall.
20100325 19:42:42< King_Elendil> The mountains of western North Carolina in spring
20100325 19:43:12< King_Elendil> beautiful :)
20100325 19:47:14< Blarumyrran> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caernafon_Wards.jpg has the exact same feel that the castles in Stronghold had
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20100325 19:48:31< kblin> hm, my bad
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20100325 19:50:36< Gambit> He meant to join #wensoth
20100325 19:50:55< King_Elendil> is that for devs?
20100325 19:51:17< Gambit> ?
20100325 19:51:27< King_Elendil> nvm
20100325 19:53:11< noy> Blarumyrran: where are my PONIES?
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20100325 19:54:57< Blarumyrran> I wanted to do them today, but I certainly won't until I get an answer from #mypaint about where to get some "libffi-5.dll" that MyPaint says is missing
20100325 19:55:16< Gambit> Zarel: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=417569#p417569
20100325 19:55:22< Blarumyrran> Because I found out 0.8.2 is out and I was still using 0.7.1+git of it, and deleted the old one
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20100325 19:57:56< Zarel> Gambit: I was thinking of trying to make it more ambiguous.
20100325 19:58:15< Zarel> But I decided starting another religious debate then and there would probably make shadowmaster hate me.
20100325 19:58:17< Unnheulu> noy: I mean *actual* welsh
20100325 19:58:19< Zarel> So I did it anyway. ;)
20100325 19:58:38< noy> I doubt there are many non-welsh welsh speakers
20100325 19:58:42< Zarel> noy: You win, I'm not gonna push my idea any more. :)
20100325 19:58:57< Unnheulu> noy: Oh yeh? With compulsory education in  the subject?
20100325 19:59:06< noy> I believe there is
20100325 19:59:19< Unnheulu> there is -.-
20100325 19:59:21< noy> or its very readily available
20100325 19:59:35< noy> well I don't think there is in places like Cardiff
20100325 19:59:35< Unnheulu> noy: you still in ceredigion?
20100325 19:59:41< noy> no
20100325 19:59:45< Unnheulu> ok :P
20100325 19:59:56< Unnheulu> I was gonna ask you to find out how many people know what cardiff means
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20100325 20:01:15< Unnheulu> *caerdydd
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20100325 20:33:15< zenhoobbit> hai
20100325 20:34:33< zenhoobbit> is it good to chat in the lobby?
20100325 20:34:53< Gambit> Not the game lobby.
20100325 20:35:13< Gambit> See Wesnoth COC. However 1.8 will bring private rooms to the lobby.
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20100325 20:35:51< zenhoobbit> really?
20100325 20:36:07< zenhoobbit> thx Gambit
20100325 20:36:23< Blarumyrran> zenhoobbit, they're already in the release candidates if you download them
20100325 20:43:22< Gambit> Oddly though it won't let me switch to different rooms after joining.
20100325 20:43:32< Gambit> I don't think they're working in the release client.
20100325 20:44:19< Gambit> *not in windowed mode.
20100325 20:44:41 * Gambit goes to see if a bug report exists for issue.
20100325 20:45:26< Blarumyrran> In some older 1.7.x i could switch between them without problems at least (with some lobby command)
20100325 20:45:45< Gambit> I just tried in fullscreen and the room list is there.
20100325 20:45:49< Gambit> But in windowed it only shows lobby.
20100325 20:46:10< Gambit> And it doesn't look like there is a related bug report.
20100325 20:46:14< Blarumyrran> I used windowed, I never use fullscreen
20100325 20:46:28< Gambit> On windows?
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20100325 20:46:31< Blarumyrran> Yes
20100325 20:46:47< Gambit> What resolution?
20100325 20:47:10< Blarumyrran> 1280*1024, I can't imagine why it would matter
20100325 20:48:56< Gambit> Actually I guess this is what the refresh button is for.
20100325 20:49:06< Gambit> did you have to use the refresh button?
20100325 20:49:15< Blarumyrran> Can't remember
20100325 20:49:19< Gambit> Maybe it's not a bug then.
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20100325 20:59:16< King_Elendil> now I'm done with math
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20100325 21:41:00< King_Elendil> And now I'm done practicing :)
20100325 21:41:40< Jarkko> King_Elendil: I sent you PM.
20100325 21:42:14< King_Elendil> Yes, I read and am writing a reply, but this might be better
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20100325 21:42:32< King_Elendil> I would be very interested in joining up for this
20100325 21:43:15< Jarkko> Good to hear :)
20100325 21:43:28< King_Elendil> and it would be a neat learning experiance
20100325 21:44:30< King_Elendil> would you like to wait until the novel is done, or go ahead and start the campaign now?
20100325 21:45:21< Jarkko> I think, we could make a rough scetches of the storyline at least up to the execution point.
20100325 21:45:42< King_Elendil> ok
20100325 21:46:11< King_Elendil> I wonder if the time difference would make it hard, what time is it where you are?
20100325 21:47:08< Jarkko> Wait. Can you switch to privat messages on IRC? I don't think it's wise to scuttle the channel.
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20100325 21:47:58< landscape69> could it be that version 1.8 final is released on today?
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20100325 21:51:54< Gambit> Zarel: Now you've done it
20100325 21:52:05< Gambit> :P
20100325 21:53:11< Jarkko> ... What has he done?
20100325 21:53:34< Gambit> sparked a religious debate :P
20100325 21:54:07< Jarkko> A religious debate?! *Where?*
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20100325 21:56:37 * Gambit attempts defusal vis a via batman joke.
20100325 21:56:45< Gambit> errr
20100325 21:56:47< Gambit> bad latin
20100325 21:56:57< Gambit> or rather french
20100325 21:57:14< Jarkko> Oh it was latin, yes.
20100325 21:57:17< Jarkko> Pig latin :P
20100325 21:57:48< Gambit> I think I now have an opportunity to literally use the phrase "excuse my french"
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20100325 21:59:19< Jarkko> Gambit: There are like... all elements of disaster in that single sentence xD
20100325 22:00:18< Gambit> I found a joker smiley :)
20100325 22:00:42< Gambit> Uh oh.
20100325 22:00:58< Gambit> Artisticdude D:
20100325 22:01:25< Gambit> He just slapped polytheism in the face!
20100325 22:03:15< Jarkko> What are they trying to do? Are they luring the forum Gods using religion as a bait?
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20100325 22:04:59< Jarkko> From experience, I say that in worst case scenario it's like shooting into a pond with a bazooka.
20100325 22:05:09< Jarkko> Lotsa fishes there, mate ;)
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20100325 22:07:30< Jarkko> artisticdude: Hello there
20100325 22:07:47< artisticdude> Hey all. :)
20100325 22:08:10< Gambit> artisticdude: You just slapped polytheism with a white glove :o
20100325 22:08:29< artisticdude> Oh no, here we go... : P
20100325 22:09:00< artisticdude> I gotta go now, sorry.
20100325 22:09:01< Jarkko> Me and Gambit have been browsing as the elements of disaster come together to produce a wild soup.
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20100325 22:09:10< Jarkko> *sturgeon face*
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20100325 22:22:28< Zarel> Gambit: Gah, and I was trying so hard to _prevent_ a religious debate! :(
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20100325 22:22:47< Zarel> You'd think "accommodate the Christian" would be a good strategy, but nooooooooooo.
20100325 22:23:10< Zarel> I miss the good old days.
20100325 22:23:25< Zarel> Back when I was 13 and posting in Internet debates, I got people to say "Okay, you win" a few times.
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20100325 22:28:45< King_Elendil> lol
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20100325 22:42:01< King_Elendil> is anyone going to say anything?
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20100325 22:42:48< SgtFlame|Work> King_Elendil: nope
20100325 22:42:54< FireFly> Never
20100325 22:43:08< King_Elendil> hahaha
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20100325 22:44:34< rocket16> Hello Bruteforce
20100325 22:44:41< rocket16> This is the Wesnoth channel, :)
20100325 22:44:51< Espreon> ...
20100325 22:45:03< rocket16> BruteForce, can you hear me?
20100325 22:45:10< BruteForce> hear?
20100325 22:45:13< BruteForce> should i get my head phones
20100325 22:45:26< rocket16> Espreon: I just helped him to access wesnoth channel :)
20100325 22:45:30< rocket16> N no Bruteforce
20100325 22:45:37< Espreon> I see...
20100325 22:45:58< King_Elendil> hello there
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