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20100326 00:13:29< Gambit> Rofl my clan leader gives me ACP access today and tells me a dozen times to "not screw anything up"
20100326 00:13:36< Gambit> I get done making all the changes he asked 
20100326 00:13:41< Gambit> and then I come back 15 minutes later
20100326 00:13:44< Gambit> and he had locked all the admins out
20100326 00:13:47< Gambit> every. single. one.
20100326 00:13:51< Gambit> lmfao.
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20100326 00:18:07< Gambit> ^^ including himself.
20100326 00:18:11< Gambit> which is why it's so funny.
20100326 00:18:25< Gambit> Meh I guess it's not that funny to yall. nevermind.
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20100326 00:26:39< HanSolo> So, what's coming out with 1.8?
20100326 00:36:29< Gambit> Nude shamans.
20100326 00:36:35< Gambit> A new lobby
20100326 00:36:38< Gambit> new terrains 
20100326 00:36:43< Gambit> bug fixes
20100326 00:36:49< Gambit> WML engine upgrades
20100326 00:37:38< HanSolo> Gambit: Please tell me the nude shamans are a lie.
20100326 00:37:49< HanSolo> I always though shamans were moe moe
20100326 00:38:18< HanSolo> and I already have 1.6 and 1.7
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20100326 01:34:31< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20100326 01:57:47< jzmer> is the autotools build in the current tar ball of the 1.8 branch bugged?
20100326 01:58:51< jzmer> (the configure script generated disrespect my SDL installation)
20100326 01:59:04< jzmer> however cmake seems to work though
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20100326 02:15:37< Espreon> jzmer: I'd ask the nice people in #wesnoth-dev
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20100326 02:31:20< jzmer> Espreon: thank you.
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20100326 02:41:17< Espreon> You are welcome.
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20100326 02:57:59< jzmer> it appears the 1.8 branch of wesnoth has a tight integration with the system notification
20100326 02:58:14< jzmer> that's very cool on linux
20100326 02:58:18< Espreon> Indeed.
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20100326 03:06:49< norbert_> pokhbocee: Wesnoth relies on several libraries
20100326 03:06:58< norbert_> if you install all of them, then Wesnoth should compile fine
20100326 03:07:08< norbert_> and all should be installed with that ./configure line I gave you
20100326 03:07:12< norbert_> since you don't have root access
20100326 03:07:31< pokhbocee> yeah i thought they would be included in the repository. now im dowloading them one by one
20100326 03:07:36< norbert_> just tell me what messages you get about libraries and I'll say where you can find them
20100326 03:07:50< norbert_> okay; good luck and let me know if you have a question
20100326 03:07:59< pokhbocee> ty so much.
20100326 03:08:09< norbert_> np
20100326 03:09:42< pokhbocee> since i dont have admin access to install libraries will be a huge problem. but i may request it from admin but it gonna cost me a day or 2
20100326 03:10:03< norbert_> not a huge problem
20100326 03:10:11< norbert_> just takes some time to install all the libraries
20100326 03:10:31< norbert_> it depends on how much time you want to spend on it
20100326 03:10:57< norbert_> and how many libraries are already installed don the system you're using
20100326 03:11:04< norbert_> -d
20100326 03:11:55< pokhbocee> i have time but i wanted to start asap.
20100326 03:12:10< pokhbocee> maybe i should just dig the code
20100326 03:12:27< norbert_> 'dig the code'?
20100326 03:12:46< pokhbocee> but without compiling i cannot develop
20100326 03:12:57< pokhbocee> look at the code learn it etc.
20100326 03:13:08< norbert_> you'd still need the libraries
20100326 03:13:14< norbert_> it won't run without
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20100326 03:44:35< norbert_> pokhbocee: how's it going? :)
20100326 03:44:40< norbert_> still working on it?
20100326 03:45:30< pokhbocee> :D
20100326 03:45:39< pokhbocee> boost takes really long to install :D
20100326 03:46:10< norbert_> damn
20100326 03:46:13< pokhbocee> i think boost and lua will be enough to install. good part is i dont need admin access its kinda not installation but compilation
20100326 03:46:15< norbert_> sure does, if it's still going
20100326 03:46:38< pokhbocee> we dont have the best computers anyway :D
20100326 03:46:52< norbert_> yes, but you do need to run "make install" to install the libraries in your home directory, so wesnoth can find it later
20100326 03:47:05< pokhbocee> oh 
20100326 03:47:10< pokhbocee> than its gonna be problem
20100326 03:47:32< pokhbocee> ill try if it wont work ill ask for it guy to do it
20100326 03:48:00< norbert_> as a user, you have control over your home directory
20100326 03:48:11< norbert_> each user has his or her own home directory
20100326 03:48:13< pokhbocee> not for installation
20100326 03:48:17< norbert_> you can install files there
20100326 03:48:33< pokhbocee> can i specify the directory while using make install
20100326 03:48:40< norbert_> and wesnoth, the source, can find the libraries you install there if you specify things right
20100326 03:48:55< norbert_> you should've done that with the ./configure command I gave you
20100326 03:49:04< Gambit> There's a command for ubuntu that downloads all the dependencies at once.
20100326 03:49:10< norbert_> there you specify the --prefix=/home/pokhbocee
20100326 03:49:14< norbert_> (or whatever your home dir is)
20100326 03:49:25< norbert_> but you could still move the library files (depending on the situation)
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20100326 03:50:20< norbert_> Gambit: apt-get or aptitude require root privileges
20100326 03:50:35< Gambit> Oh okay.
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20100326 03:56:47< pokhbocee> i have installed it
20100326 03:57:04< pokhbocee> i used bjam install
20100326 03:57:12< pokhbocee> do i have to use make install too?
20100326 03:58:01< norbert_> no
20100326 03:58:20< norbert_> where did it install to, can you tell
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20100326 03:58:55< norbert_> did you use that ./configure line?
20100326 03:59:09< pokhbocee> yep i put it in my home directory
20100326 03:59:20< pokhbocee> i tried the configure again
20100326 03:59:31< pokhbocee> give the directory as prefix
20100326 03:59:35< pokhbocee> didnt work again
20100326 03:59:50< pokhbocee> same boost library error
20100326 03:59:52< norbert_> you need to do some things for it to work
20100326 03:59:55< norbert_> give me a moment...
20100326 04:00:10< pokhbocee> ty a lot I really appreciate it
20100326 04:01:34< norbert_> are you installing the stable or development version of Wesnoth?
20100326 04:04:03< norbert_> boost uses bootstrap.sh instead of configure
20100326 04:04:17< norbert_> so you should use ./bootstrap.sh --prefix=/home/pokhbocee
20100326 04:04:21< norbert_> or whatever your home directory is
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20100326 04:04:40< norbert_> else ./bjam install won't install the files in your home directory
20100326 04:05:24< norbert_> after that, the libraries will be in /home/pokhbocee/Desktop/boost_1_42_0/stage/lib
20100326 04:05:27< pokhbocee> i already did that
20100326 04:05:34< norbert_> and you need to tell Wesnoth that they're there
20100326 04:05:37< pokhbocee> did both
20100326 04:05:47< norbert_> how did you tell Wesnoth the libraries are there?
20100326 04:05:53< pokhbocee> i couldnt :D
20100326 04:05:57< norbert_> you can
20100326 04:06:16< pokhbocee> how
20100326 04:06:17< norbert_> what is the name of your home directory
20100326 04:06:34< norbert_> you can export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/pokhbocee/Desktop/boost_1_42_0/stage/lib"
20100326 04:06:38< pokhbocee> /home/ebo25/
20100326 04:06:45< norbert_> $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/ebo25/Desktop/boost_1_42_0/stage/lib"
20100326 04:07:02< norbert_> that command will make sure that Wesnoth understands the libraries of Boost are there
20100326 04:07:17< pokhbocee> stage is the directory that i ve installed the library right?
20100326 04:07:36< norbert_> /home/ebo25/Desktop/boost_1_42_0/stage/lib
20100326 04:07:40< norbert_> should be where the libraries are now
20100326 04:07:50< norbert_> unless you didn't download the boost source to Desktop/
20100326 04:08:40< norbert_> do you understand what I'm writing? :)
20100326 04:08:44< pokhbocee> yepp
20100326 04:09:06< pokhbocee> but i installed the library into  /home/ebo25/boost/
20100326 04:09:13< pokhbocee> so  /home/ebo25/boost/lib
20100326 04:09:22< pokhbocee> must be my target dir.
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20100326 04:09:36< norbert_> /home/ebo25/boost/stage/lib
20100326 04:09:42< norbert_> you can check if they're there
20100326 04:09:47< norbert_> in either one of those
20100326 04:09:53< norbert_> and then run that "export" command
20100326 04:10:02< norbert_> after that, run ./configure --prefix=/home/ebo25
20100326 04:10:05< pokhbocee> there is only lib and include in boost
20100326 04:10:09< norbert_> in the wesnoth source directory
20100326 04:10:21< norbert_> ok, then they're in /home/ebo25/boost/lib
20100326 04:10:31< norbert_> so: $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/ebo25/boost/lib"
20100326 04:10:47< norbert_> and then in the wesnoth source directory: ./configure --prefix=/home/ebo25
20100326 04:11:01< pokhbocee> now runniing configure
20100326 04:11:01< norbert_> then it shouldn't give you the error about boost
20100326 04:11:18< norbert_> but it may complain about another library, of course ;)
20100326 04:11:31< norbert_> hopefully not
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20100326 04:11:49< norbert_> if it does, you need to install more libraries in your home directory
20100326 04:12:07< pokhbocee> damn it i still get boost error
20100326 04:12:16< norbert_> what is the error?
20100326 04:12:28< pokhbocee> same
20100326 04:12:34< norbert_> what is it?
20100326 04:12:39< norbert_> also, what version of Wesnoth are you trying to install, stable or development?
20100326 04:12:41< pokhbocee> checking for Boost headers version >= 1.35... no
20100326 04:12:42< pokhbocee> configure: error: Could not find Boost headers version >= 1.35
20100326 04:12:58< pokhbocee> this must be development
20100326 04:13:10< norbert_> you don't remember what you downloaded?
20100326 04:13:12< pokhbocee> cuz i checkout this from repository
20100326 04:13:42< norbert_> you downloaded it from SVN?
20100326 04:13:48< pokhbocee> yes
20100326 04:13:51< norbert_> pokhbocee, there's another way to install Wesnoth
20100326 04:13:57< norbert_> and it's what we'll go for now
20100326 04:14:04< norbert_> do you know what a virtual machine is?
20100326 04:14:06< pokhbocee> but i need the dev.
20100326 04:14:24< norbert_> it is software that allows you to install an OS on your machine
20100326 04:14:26< pokhbocee> im not trying to play the game
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20100326 04:14:34< pokhbocee> i know vm
20100326 04:14:36< norbert_> you can install Ubuntu or another OS on your machine
20100326 04:14:38< norbert_> VirtualBox
20100326 04:14:46< pokhbocee> yes i do know
20100326 04:14:49< norbert_> and then just use apt-get install (or aptitude) as root
20100326 04:14:54< norbert_> then you have root access
20100326 04:15:00< norbert_> and you don't need to install all libraries yourself
20100326 04:15:12< ancestral> Package managers are hot
20100326 04:15:33< norbert_> pokhbocee: does this sound like a good plan?
20100326 04:15:59< norbert_> if so, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
20100326 04:16:02< pokhbocee> the thing is in a vm it is really hard for me to work
20100326 04:16:19< norbert_> ok, back to the libraries
20100326 04:16:31< norbert_> please tell me what is in /home/ebo25/boost/lib
20100326 04:16:44< norbert_> if it's more than 4 lines, please don't paste it here
20100326 04:16:52< pokhbocee> .a files
20100326 04:16:56< pokhbocee> and .so
20100326 04:17:03< norbert_> ok
20100326 04:17:53< norbert_> in the window you're working on this, please type $ export|grep LD_L
20100326 04:17:58< norbert_> does this return something?
20100326 04:18:18< norbert_> if it does, please paste it here
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20100326 04:18:24< pokhbocee> nope
20100326 04:18:37< pokhbocee> nothing
20100326 04:18:44< norbert_> ok, do again: $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/ebo25/boost/lib"
20100326 04:18:52< norbert_> and then again: $ export|grep LD_L
20100326 04:19:17< pokhbocee> in which directory should i do it?
20100326 04:19:22< norbert_> doesn't matter
20100326 04:19:34< pokhbocee> declare -x LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/ebo25/boost/lib"
20100326 04:19:37< pokhbocee> i got this
20100326 04:19:43< norbert_> ok, now go to the wesnoth source directory
20100326 04:19:51< norbert_> and run ./configure --prefix=/home/ebo25
20100326 04:20:11< pokhbocee> same error again
20100326 04:20:21< norbert_> ok, one moment
20100326 04:21:54< norbert_> I'm downloading Wesnoth; will check the configure file
20100326 04:22:00< pokhbocee> im so sorry to take ur time but i really appretiate your concern
20100326 04:22:29< norbert_> I have all the time in the world, no worries :)
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20100326 04:30:27< norbert_> ok
20100326 04:30:39< norbert_> run $ ./configure --prefix=~ --with-boost=/home/ebo25/boost/lib
20100326 04:31:23< norbert_> or, maybe, if that fails: $ ./configure --prefix=/home/ebo25/ --with-boost=/home/ebo25/boost/lib/
20100326 04:31:41< norbert_> that should tell the package where boost is
20100326 04:32:25< pokhbocee> no
20100326 04:32:31< pokhbocee> same error
20100326 04:32:45< pokhbocee> maybe the library i have downloaded is too recent for the project
20100326 04:32:53< norbert_> no
20100326 04:33:05< pokhbocee> hmm
20100326 04:33:18< norbert_> do you still have the source of boost
20100326 04:33:20< norbert_> the directory
20100326 04:33:22< pokhbocee> yes
20100326 04:33:29< norbert_> where is it, can you give the path
20100326 04:34:26< pokhbocee> /home/ebo25/Desktop/nnn/boost_1_42_0
20100326 04:35:19< norbert_> try: $ ./configure --prefix=/home/ebo25/ --with-boost=/home/ebo25/Desktop/nnn/boost_1_42_0/stage/lib/
20100326 04:35:57< norbert_> if you get the same error, please run: $  ./configure --help|grep oost
20100326 04:36:26< pokhbocee>  --with-boost=DIR        prefix of Boost version >= 1.35 [guess]
20100326 04:36:29< pokhbocee> is returned
20100326 04:36:36< norbert_> so, you got the same error
20100326 04:36:41< pokhbocee> yes
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20100326 04:36:45< norbert_> weird
20100326 04:37:30< pokhbocee> it doesnt has a stage folder in it
20100326 04:38:03< pokhbocee> /home/ebo25/Desktop/nnn/boost_1_42_0/stage
20100326 04:38:05< norbert_> there is no /home/ebo25/Desktop/nnn/boost_1_42_0/stage/ ?
20100326 04:38:08< pokhbocee> no
20100326 04:38:38< norbert_> then boost wasn't compiled correctly
20100326 04:38:43< norbert_> something must've gone wrong
20100326 04:39:23< norbert_> you didn't download the .zip, did you?
20100326 04:39:35< pokhbocee> nope i couldnt have open it
20100326 04:39:49< norbert_> well, you could, with unzip :)
20100326 04:39:50< pokhbocee> oh 
20100326 04:39:52< norbert_> but okay... let me see...
20100326 04:39:54< pokhbocee> sory there is stage
20100326 04:39:59< norbert_> ah, ok
20100326 04:40:12< pokhbocee> wow my bad sorry about that
20100326 04:40:16< norbert_> np
20100326 04:43:16< pokhbocee> ill co repository again
20100326 04:43:41< pokhbocee> and try it again
20100326 04:44:54< norbert_> I think this is a bug
20100326 04:45:07< pokhbocee> there is single version right?
20100326 04:45:12< pokhbocee> and i can run it on unix
20100326 04:45:46< norbert_> sorry, don't understand the question about a 'single version'
20100326 04:45:54< pokhbocee> i mean
20100326 04:46:09< pokhbocee> are there different repositories for different operating systems
20100326 04:46:51< pokhbocee> maybe instead of repository i should download the source code
20100326 04:46:53< norbert_> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19237
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20100326 04:47:59< pokhbocee> u think i should try 1.2.6
20100326 04:48:12< pokhbocee> or use libboost-iostreams-dev
20100326 04:48:15< norbert_> I think you need libboost-iostreams-dev
20100326 04:48:25< norbert_> the error message is just unclear
20100326 04:48:37< norbert_> but there's another thing, I think Wesnoth may rely on too many libraries
20100326 04:48:43< norbert_> you'll be downloading and compiling forever
20100326 04:49:01< norbert_> especially since a lab system is not already packed with libraries for games :)
20100326 04:49:48< norbert_> another thread suggests that same error will pop up if "pyste" is missing
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20100326 04:49:56< norbert_> so who knows what you might install before it all works
20100326 04:50:44< pokhbocee> should i download the source code ( a stable one) or co from repository
20100326 04:50:54< norbert_> depends on what you're trying to do
20100326 04:51:04< norbert_> if it doesn't matter, you should always pick stable
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20100326 04:51:40< pokhbocee> i actually will work on AI so i thought repository would be more up to date
20100326 04:51:57< norbert_> AI code has changed in the dev version
20100326 04:53:11< norbert_> "substantial improvements in the game's AI" 
20100326 04:53:12< norbert_> http://wesnoth.org/start/1.8/
20100326 04:54:34< norbert_> I have another suggestion
20100326 04:54:50< pokhbocee> im listening
20100326 04:55:02< norbert_> if you don't want to work with a VM like VirtualBox, maybe you won't like this, but...
20100326 04:55:14< norbert_> you could use a live CD
20100326 04:55:32< norbert_> it'll give you root
20100326 04:55:39< norbert_> and then you can co from SVN
20100326 04:55:52< norbert_> and apt-get install the reps
20100326 04:56:01< pokhbocee> it seems to require an installation
20100326 04:56:42< norbert_> what does?
20100326 04:56:46< pokhbocee> i just got an windows machine 
20100326 04:56:59< norbert_> you have a Windows machine now? :)
20100326 04:57:05< pokhbocee> yes :D
20100326 04:57:05< norbert_> that should work
20100326 04:57:11< pokhbocee> admin has just gave
20100326 04:57:18< norbert_> maybe repartition it and make room for Linux :P
20100326 04:57:19< pokhbocee> its sooooo slow and terrible though
20100326 04:57:31< pokhbocee> maybe i should
20100326 04:57:41< norbert_> partition magic
20100326 04:57:45< pokhbocee> if it has enough space :D
20100326 04:57:57< norbert_> or just with an Ubuntu cd
20100326 04:58:10< pokhbocee> ahahah it doesnt have a cdrom :D
20100326 04:58:11< norbert_> anyways, I have to go to bed
20100326 04:58:22< pokhbocee> ok ty for your effort i really appretiate it
20100326 04:58:29< norbert_> np, good luck; cu
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20100326 04:58:32< pokhbocee> cu later
20100326 04:58:33< pokhbocee>  ty
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20100326 05:29:58< pokhbocee> norbert_: i think i solved it instead of bin i give its parent directory
20100326 05:30:18< pokhbocee> configure is finished now ill procede
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20100326 08:04:44< pokhbocee> hey guys can somebody help me to run the wesnoth?
20100326 08:04:56< pokhbocee> i have compiled-installed it 
20100326 08:05:25< pokhbocee> but i cannot run it i get errors depending on the executable that i run
20100326 08:06:10< pokhbocee> ./wesnoth: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_iostreams.so.1.42.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
20100326 08:06:15< pokhbocee> error is this
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20100326 10:28:31< jzmer> is there any way to turn notification off in wesnoth 1.8 running on linux?
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20100326 10:33:58< fendrin> jzmer: Yes, have a look at the preferences.
20100326 10:38:05< jzmer> fendrin: thanks, but i dont really get it . . . under which section of preference is there such option?
20100326 10:38:59< jzmer> (by notification i mean system notification sent through notify-send)
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20100326 10:41:48< fendrin> jzmer: Sorry, I can't find it myself. Would have sworn that it was there. Please fill a feature request at bugs.wesnoth.org for the issue.
20100326 10:42:21< fendrin> Ivanovic: Is there a way to disable the system notifications?
20100326 10:42:41< Ivanovic> fendrin: only at build time IIRC
20100326 10:42:46< Ivanovic> talk to silene about details
20100326 10:42:54< Ivanovic> moin, btw
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20100326 10:43:27< fendrin> Ivanovic: Do you agree that a preferences entry for disabling it is a good idea?
20100326 10:43:38< jzmer> fendrin: gotcha，it can be disabled with --disable-dbus and --disable-notifications i suppose
20100326 10:43:39< Ivanovic> eg when building with cmake it is the variable -DENABLE_NOTIFICATIONS=FALSE
20100326 10:43:55< Ivanovic> not sure if there is a startup param for this, too
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20100326 10:44:34< jzmer> "wesnoth -h | grep -i not" shows nothing. so i suppose there isnt a startup parameter for that.
20100326 10:47:30< fendrin> jzmer: Well, not every Wesnoth player is able to compile the code by himself. So I would vote for a preferences item for it.
20100326 10:50:48< jzmer> Ivanovic: is silene of homos sapiens?
20100326 10:51:13< Ivanovic> huh?
20100326 10:51:26< Ivanovic> silene is a wesnoth developer
20100326 10:51:34< Ivanovic> what do you want to achieve with your question?
20100326 10:52:23< jzmer> since you said "talk to silene about details" earlier, yet i cannot find silene on the channel list
20100326 10:52:35< Ivanovic> yes, not every dev is around all the time
20100326 10:52:41< Ivanovic> you know, people got to work and the likes
20100326 10:52:55< jzmer> i know, but usually folks have a bot around
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20100326 10:53:04< Ivanovic> ehm, no
20100326 10:53:10< Ivanovic> not for logged chans
20100326 10:53:38< jzmer> i see
20100326 10:55:33< fendrin> jzmer, Ivanovic: Why not fill a feature request for the issue?
20100326 10:55:51< Ivanovic> yes, a feature request is the way to go anyway
20100326 10:56:01< Ivanovic> stuff can still be discussed based on the FR
20100326 10:56:04< jzmer> i admit
20100326 11:09:30< jzmer> FR posted #15701
20100326 11:10:31< jzmer> though i admit it isnt discusssed in the forms
20100326 11:10:35< jzmer> s/forms/forums
20100326 11:10:44< Ivanovic> the forums don't matter too much
20100326 11:10:46< Ivanovic> ;)
20100326 11:16:38< fendrin> jzmer: Cool, thank you for taking the time to fill the FR.
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20100326 11:52:50< Soliton> jzmer: if developers tell you to file a FR it's fine to not discuss it further. :-)
20100326 11:56:23< fendrin> Soliton: Remember that there is no way to say which irc people is a developer.
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20100326 11:56:41< Soliton> if you can't use whois?
20100326 11:56:59< Soliton> or if you think we give out wesnoth hostmask to anyone?
20100326 11:58:04< fendrin> Ah yes, there is that way. Didn't thought of that.
20100326 12:01:23< landscape69> anyone know if wesnoth-1.8 final and libsdl-1.2.14 is working together, if wesnoth is in window screen mode?
20100326 12:02:45< Soliton> yes, we know it doesn't.
20100326 12:02:59< landscape69> ok, thanks
20100326 12:03:27< Soliton> there is a bug for it in our tracker and in sdl's at least.
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20100326 12:06:24< landscape69> Soliton: ok i hope sdl dev release soon a new version.
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20100326 12:07:32< Soliton> yeah, not sure they have an idea what's going wrong so far though.
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20100326 12:12:54< jzmer> fendrin: our pleasure :)
20100326 12:19:44< jzmer> is there any way to disguise a 1.8.0 client as 1.7.x for multiplayer purposes?
20100326 12:20:28< jzmer> s/1.7/1.6
20100326 12:21:06< fendrin> jzmer: No, that would lead to out of sync errors, the two versions are not compatible.
20100326 12:25:15< jzmer> but people can elect to ignore oos :)
20100326 12:25:41< Soliton> what are you trying to accomplish?
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20100326 12:25:55< jzmer> just curious
20100326 12:26:33< Soliton> well, yes, you can change the version and no, that doesn't make much sense.
20100326 12:26:41< zenhoobb-it> hai Soliton!
20100326 12:26:49< Soliton> hello
20100326 12:27:06< zenhoobb-it> who admin is in the server?
20100326 12:27:08< jzmer> i understand. thanks.
20100326 12:27:15< Soliton> me.
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20100326 12:31:10< zenhoobb-it> rocket16 write in caps
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20100326 12:32:47< Soliton> not in the lobby.
20100326 12:33:23< Soliton> btw, i'm done listening to you if you don't stop these petty reports.
20100326 12:33:24< zenhoobb-it> and he said mussolini was a great man!!! he is fascist
20100326 12:33:52< Soliton> and if you continue to abuse adminmsg for them i'll have even less patience.
20100326 12:36:36< fendrin> zenhoobb-it: Mussolini was only about 1,63m so you can easily prove him wrong.
20100326 12:38:01< zenhoobb-it> xD
20100326 12:38:28< Blarumyrran> It takes a truly Great Man to make the trains run on time though
20100326 12:42:30< Blarumyrran> Now I'd almost want a Transport Tycoon clone where there are sets of leaders with different specails to pick from, and Mussolini makes trains run on time
20100326 12:43:59< zookeeper> hitler would build motorways faster?
20100326 12:44:24< Blarumyrran> I'm not sure
20100326 12:44:59< Blarumyrran> I've heard in the beginning of the invasion of france (6 years after coming to power!) they still used mostly horses for transport
20100326 12:45:46< Blarumyrran> But including hitler as a playable leader is a bit too much of a taboo; mussolini is less provoking, I think
20100326 12:46:06< zookeeper> oh really :p
20100326 12:46:33< Blarumyrran> ya rly
20100326 12:46:51< zookeeper> whenever there's hitler anywhere, some people get vocal. i was once looking at some custom leaders thread in a civ 3/4 forum.
20100326 12:47:01< zookeeper> and well...you can guess what was going on there
20100326 12:47:29< Blarumyrran> Civilizations leaders are silly anyway
20100326 12:47:43< Blarumyrran> Alexander fights Gandhi when conquering India, etc...
20100326 12:48:03< zookeeper> and lives for 6000 years
20100326 12:48:21< Blarumyrran> Exactly
20100326 12:49:17< Blarumyrran> I think the "leaders" should come and go, and the player shouldn't be Alexander in particular but some kind of... national spirit that continuously presides over different leaders & governments
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20100326 12:49:42< Blarumyrran> with such time scope
20100326 12:51:59< zookeeper> yeah, i think they shouldn't have names. it'd still be funny if the leader looked like a historical leader but in period clothing etc. so you'd get hitler in a tribal costume in prehistoric times, hitler in medieval gear, hitler looking like hitler and hitler in a suit :P actually i don't know if the newer civs already do it like that, they might. can't remember.
20100326 12:53:19< Blarumyrran> Oh, they could be descendants of each other
20100326 12:53:29< Blarumyrran> Like Blackadders and Baldricks
20100326 12:53:53< zookeeper> actually i'm pretty sure civ 3 already had something along those lines, although i think the changes to the look were pretty small
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20100326 12:58:09< Blarumyrran> In the earlier civilizationses, the advisors behaved like that I think
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20100326 13:30:31 * Blarumyrran remembers
20100326 13:30:40< Blarumyrran> zookeeper, you used to have a mod with trains
20100326 13:30:49< Blarumyrran> The oppurtunity is sitting there
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20100326 13:38:53< Gambit> I had just noticed a spammish looking post on the forums, and before I was even done reporting them, they had filled their signature with links.
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20100326 13:44:06< shadowmaster> GAMBIT!?
20100326 13:44:26< shadowmaster> ah, never mind. I blame my browser's cace
20100326 13:44:36< shadowmaster> cache even
20100326 13:44:51< fendrin> shadowmaster: I wanted to take care of the issue but I can't find how to ban a user.
20100326 13:45:08< zookeeper> google doesn't occasionally work for me anymore.
20100326 13:45:17< zookeeper> i type something in the search box, press enter or the button, and nothing happens.
20100326 13:45:31< shadowmaster> fendrin: you cannot.
20100326 13:45:31< zookeeper> then if i try a couple more times, it might start working
20100326 13:46:16< fendrin> shadowmaster: Can you unlock that right for me? I think I am up to locking spammers.
20100326 13:46:30< shadowmaster> fendrin: you should split one spammy post to the hidden forum instead and delete other posts
20100326 13:46:40< shadowmaster> and no, I'm not giving ban powers away
20100326 13:47:14< fendrin> shadowmaster: Okay.
20100326 13:47:21< shadowmaster> they are mostly hit-and-run spammers so it's usually not a problem to wait for me or the rest of http://forums.wesnoth.org/memberlist.php?mode=group&g=6641 to appear
20100326 13:48:54< shadowmaster> zookeeper: maybe it's a DNS issue? I think you have had those with your ISP a few times already
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20100326 13:50:30< Blarumyrran> shadowmaster, http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29314&start=22 I'm actually kind of surprised rocket hasn't created one already
20100326 13:52:15< shadowmaster> if that happened I'd start wondering if the earth is actually round or it's all one big lie from those spanish bastards.
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20100326 13:52:56< zookeeper> shadowmaster, maybe
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20100326 14:23:56< stano> hello everyone, can someone help?
20100326 14:24:15< stano> i am playing the rebels and fighting drakes
20100326 14:24:32< stano> what second level elvish unit is very good against drakes?
20100326 14:24:56< stano> enemy use many saurians
20100326 14:25:27< Jarkko> Up to my understanding, there is no specific "one".
20100326 14:26:02< Jarkko> You just gotta study their weaknesses and try out, what works.
20100326 14:27:09< stano> here is something about them: http://units.wesnoth.org/1.8/C/Saurian%20Skirmisher.html
20100326 14:28:56< stano> their pierce attack can be harmless to woses, but when i prepare some woses the enemy will make drakes with fire damage and my woses will be killed very soon
20100326 14:30:34< Soliton> sorceress or marksman should do well.
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20100326 14:34:16< Blarumyrran> Ranger is better than marksman, I think? Since the marksman ability won't matter against drakes
20100326 14:34:38< stano> sorceress agains skirmishers? i dont think it is a very good idea
20100326 14:35:34< stano> ranger have stronger melee attack, so i believe that it can be a well balanced unit against drakes. thank you, i will make a mix of woses, rangers and some healers
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20100326 14:51:38< Gambit> shadowmaster: How many people have to pay tribute in order to get that thread unlocked?
20100326 14:51:39< Sacho> eh, dunno
20100326 14:51:44< Sacho> I'd rather take sharpshooters
20100326 14:51:51< Sacho> they can kill off saurians as well
20100326 14:52:03< Sacho> and the melee retaliation isn't all that, especially with drakes' blade resistance
20100326 14:52:16< Sacho> screen your archers with fighters instead (:
20100326 14:52:49< Blarumyrran> Sacho, saurians are weak against blade & strong against pierce, and ranger has more blade & less pierce than marksman
20100326 14:54:15< Gambit> Blarumyrran: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29328
20100326 14:54:32< Gambit> I want to get 15 replies by the time he even sees it :)
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20100326 14:55:21< Sacho> saurians also usually have gobs of defense :)
20100326 14:55:35< Sacho> and little hp
20100326 14:55:46< Sacho> and their melee attacks are no joke.
20100326 14:56:11< Blarumyrran> the melee attacks of augurs is a joke
20100326 14:56:27< Blarumyrran> And mages are the real skirmisher killing machines anyway
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20100326 15:26:04< Gambit> I wonder if I could get rocket16 and his one billion followers to post in shadowmaster
20100326 15:26:11< Gambit> '*+'s worship thread.
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20100326 15:27:59< Jarkko> Everything is possible in this world.
20100326 15:28:06< Jarkko> King_Elendil: Hello there.
20100326 15:28:12< King_Elendil> hello
20100326 15:31:05< Gambit> Please everyone show your appreciation here: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29328
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20100326 15:32:59< Jarkko> Should I write a poem about it...?
20100326 15:33:12< fendrin> Jarkko: Yes, please do so. :-)
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20100326 15:35:27< Gambit> fendrin: About your new new editor: Awesome!
20100326 15:52:11< stano> what new editor?
20100326 15:52:46< Gambit> In the mailing list it was suggested that WML recieve events like name=one_terrain_place
20100326 15:52:50< Gambit> and on_tool_select
20100326 15:53:03< Gambit> So that UMC designers could create templates for their add-ons
20100326 15:53:31< Gambit> For example a survival extreme template with a signpost terrain that not only places the signpost, but also the macro for it.
20100326 15:55:16< Gambit> And I believe that could be extended somehow (with quite a bit of work, but *all* in WML) to a fully blown scenario editor.
20100326 15:55:30< Gambit> Or actually a quarter blown scenario editor.
20100326 15:56:23< Gambit> How far blown it is really depends on if we are allowed to ask for input from the end user.
20100326 15:56:33< Gambit> Such as in [text_input] and [option]
20100326 15:57:31< VurtualRuler98> How hard would it be to have a simple gui?
20100326 15:57:42< VurtualRuler98> Like, a map editor, but then you can edit wml from it.
20100326 15:57:48< VurtualRuler98> Maybe place some things directly.
20100326 15:59:06< Jarkko> Waagh... Can't write a poem. My brain is burning... :'(
20100326 15:59:19< Gambit> Jarkko we need you!
20100326 15:59:22< VurtualRuler98> Writing a poem?
20100326 15:59:33< VurtualRuler98> Perhaps you should try new ways.
20100326 15:59:36< Gambit> Yes a poem for shadowmaster.
20100326 15:59:36< VurtualRuler98> Maybe a haiku?
20100326 15:59:42< Gambit> Or limmerick!
20100326 15:59:55< Gambit> <3 a good limerick.
20100326 15:59:58< VurtualRuler98> Pattern is easy.
20100326 16:00:08< VurtualRuler98> Philosiphy, not so much.
20100326 16:00:12< VurtualRuler98> Try talking in them.
20100326 16:03:01 * Gambit needs to listen to ZP Wolfenstein to get in the mood for poetry challenge.
20100326 16:05:11< Gambit> So if you'll give me just one second, I can blow your head off I reckon. Or maybe not, but in case you forgot, I an off topic poetry legend.
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20100326 16:08:02< VurtualRuler98> Wait, why are we writing poetry again?
20100326 16:08:30< Gambit> Jarkko is writing a poem in tribute to shadowmaster
20100326 16:08:41< King_Elendil> to show appreciation to shadowmaster
20100326 16:09:05< Gambit> Oops I just remembered
20100326 16:09:10< Gambit> we should stop saying his name :o
20100326 16:09:12< King_Elendil> what?
20100326 16:09:19< King_Elendil> oh yeah
20100326 16:09:19< Gambit> Call him SM in IRC
20100326 16:09:26< Gambit> Anyway VurtualRuler98: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29328
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20100326 16:10:06< VurtualRuler98> I will show apprecation by appreciating wesnoth then.
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20100326 16:10:57< Gambit> Do you think SM is an SM?
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20100326 16:11:11< Gambit> -terrible joke-
20100326 16:11:33< Blarumyrran> I am thankful to shadowmaster, because thanks to him we live in a free world, where every person can choose his own gender
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20100326 16:12:11< Gambit> Lol *please* put that in the thread.
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20100326 16:12:34< Blarumyrran> No
20100326 16:13:04< Gambit> No fun.
20100326 16:13:06< Blarumyrran> If I posted in a thread other than the pony one before posting there, it would feel as if I had abandoned it
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20100326 16:13:24< Gambit> Do you want me to post it on your behalf?
20100326 16:13:48< Blarumyrran> Post it on your own "behalf" if you want
20100326 16:14:15< Gambit> "Blarumyrran, who was too busy coloring ponies, had this to say when asked about his appeciation of shadowmaster:"
20100326 16:14:35< Blarumyrran> I'm not too busy coloring, I'm waiting some mypaint guy to fix an issue with it
20100326 16:14:42< Blarumyrran> +for*
20100326 16:15:05< Gambit> I think the ponies would want you to post. :)
20100326 16:15:42< King_Elendil> lol
20100326 16:17:40< Jarkko> Is "threads" really a one-syllable word?
20100326 16:17:47< Gambit> Yes.
20100326 16:18:04< Gambit> thredz
20100326 16:19:06< torchie> check the threadz, yo
20100326 16:19:22 * torchie shows the ladies his forum
20100326 16:21:18< Jarkko> Okay, everyone. I didn't make a haiku...
20100326 16:21:39< Jarkko> ...Instead I made three.
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20100326 16:22:55< Blarumyrran> English seems particularly ill-fitted for haikus
20100326 16:24:24< Jarkko> It's especially hard for me... The syllables and all go quite differently in finnish - and no teacher ever taught me, how to reckognize single syllables in english ... :(
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20100326 16:25:15< Gambit> I thought a syllable was a distinct sound?
20100326 16:25:40< Jarkko> Gambit: You got my point. I don't even know the right word for it.
20100326 16:25:40< Gambit> nvm that's not right
20100326 16:26:25< Gambit> Our teacher taught us with beats.
20100326 16:26:45< Telaron_> OUR teacher taught us with beets
20100326 16:27:22< sevis> Our teacher taught us with bits.
20100326 16:27:25< Gambit> Whoever makes a vegetable joke is preemptively a... oh too late.
20100326 16:27:33< Telaron_> There's some weird teachers out there
20100326 16:27:47< Gambit> :P
20100326 16:29:14< Jarkko> Is my haiku's even right? I'd hate to have written a bad haiku... it's like giving a pile of dung as a birthday present.
20100326 16:29:18< Telaron_> There is this guy I know, His teacher found a cockroach and kept it for a pet. One day a student purposedly stepped on the roach and the teacher said, "Now what if that had been your grandmother reincarnated?"
20100326 16:29:58< Telaron_> Say Jarkko... you want a birthday present/ ; P
20100326 16:30:01< Gambit> jarkko: they're good.
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20100326 16:30:20< Jarkko> Telaron_: It's not my birthday.
20100326 16:30:35< Telaron_> Awww...
20100326 16:30:45< Gambit> It's not your birthday?
20100326 16:30:52< Gambit> Well then that means...
20100326 16:30:57< Gambit> A very merry unbirthday to you!
20100326 16:31:53< Jarkko> :O
20100326 16:32:03< Telaron_> It must be an unbirthed-day
20100326 16:32:17< Gambit> Jarkko: we have the same unbirthday. simple amazing.
20100326 16:32:25< Gambit> *simply
20100326 16:32:53< Telaron_> I'll be birthed again tomorrow.
20100326 16:32:57< Jarkko> Yay! That means, that we weren't born on same day! :O
20100326 16:33:12< Telaron_> Uh-oh...
20100326 16:33:18< Jarkko> This is worth celebrating.
20100326 16:33:44< Telaron_> Yeah...ahh...gotta go to the bathroom...
20100326 16:33:56< Gambit> It's the celebration that lasts 364 days a year!
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20100326 16:34:20< Telaron_> what happens on leap year?
20100326 16:34:27< Gambit> 365 on leap years
20100326 16:34:46< Telaron_> shoot! you mean I don't get a day off?
20100326 16:35:06< Telaron_> You wouldn't begrudge a guy a day off would you?
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20100326 16:35:43< artisticdude_> Hail dudes, and a very happy unbirthday to you all! :P
20100326 16:35:51< Jarkko> Telaron_: Think it this way - When it's not a leap year, that day is off regardless.
20100326 16:36:21< Telaron_> Have to be honest, I never thought about it.
20100326 16:36:22< Jarkko> artisticdude_: You were stalking us from irclogs? :O
20100326 16:36:37< Gambit> or it is the most amazing coincidence ever.
20100326 16:36:41< Gambit> ever.
20100326 16:36:45< Telaron_> No from another guy's computer.
20100326 16:36:57< artisticdude_> (telaron's)
20100326 16:37:04< Telaron_> Grr...
20100326 16:37:07< Gambit> You're brothers?
20100326 16:37:10< Gambit> Sister?
20100326 16:37:13< Gambit> Cousins?
20100326 16:37:25< artisticdude_> you... could say we're brothers in arms...
20100326 16:37:27< Gambit> You're each others' dads!
20100326 16:37:29< Telaron_> yeah, don't we look alike? Brothers in arms
20100326 16:37:53< Jarkko> So... You're brothers-in-arms... But.
20100326 16:37:55< Telaron_> No, he's my wife...
20100326 16:37:55< Jarkko> In who's arms?
20100326 16:38:03< Telaron_> just kidding...
20100326 16:38:03< Telaron_> just kidding...
20100326 16:38:11< Gambit> OH Telaron laying down the smack.
20100326 16:38:15< artisticdude_> In the arms of this stupid fog giant
20100326 16:38:59< Telaron_> Who called you a fog giant artisticdude?
20100326 16:39:06-!- fabi [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth
20100326 16:39:23< Telaron_> This is the time of day for admitting all our nasty little secrets.. go on, own up!
20100326 16:39:23< artisticdude_> it's hopeless.
20100326 16:39:28< Gambit> Wait... I thought fabi was already here :s
20100326 16:39:42< Telaron_> Yeah.
20100326 16:39:56< Telaron_> Got another brother somewhere...
20100326 16:39:57< Telaron_> Got another brother somewhere...
20100326 16:40:23< artisticdude_> You're starting to repeat things... dumb webchat. X(
20100326 16:40:30< Telaron_> I get a sneak peak at all of artisticdude's work...
20100326 16:40:51< Gambit> Guys: get an IRC client.
20100326 16:41:06< Telaron_> No, I need a lawyer
20100326 16:42:03< artisticdude_> Colloquy was almost in my hands last night, but my stupid connection was so slow (rain and clouds) that I couldn't even do a google search, let alone download colloquy.
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20100326 16:42:31< Telaron_> what is colloquy?
20100326 16:42:38< artisticdude_> IRC client
20100326 16:42:49< Unnheulu> its raining outside here
20100326 16:43:16< Telaron_> It was really windy here last night. Rain too.
20100326 16:43:46< Gambit> I poured buckets here.
20100326 16:43:46< Unnheulu> sounds like wales
20100326 16:43:47< Unnheulu> :P
20100326 16:43:51< Gambit> *It
20100326 16:43:52< artisticdude_> Being on IRC with a relative... ugg. I can't take it any longer. G'bye.
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20100326 16:44:05< Telaron_> In the winchester area too.
20100326 16:44:15< Unnheulu> is that in the uk?
20100326 16:44:38< Telaron_> No, USA
20100326 16:44:40< Gambit> No. It's in the BK.
20100326 16:44:40< Unnheulu> kay
20100326 16:44:44< Telaron_> Virginia
20100326 16:44:46< Gambit> Have it your way.
20100326 16:44:52< Gambit> The Whopper.
20100326 16:44:57< Unnheulu> http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi/dhtml_slides/08/uk_crime_hotspots/img/slide3.gif
20100326 16:45:01< Unnheulu> guess where me and tsi are?
20100326 16:45:15< Gambit> In jail.
20100326 16:45:18< Telaron_> In the same town?
20100326 16:45:36< Unnheulu> Telaron_: within 5miles of eachother...
20100326 16:45:43< Unnheulu> in the biggest purple blob on the map
20100326 16:45:48< Telaron_> Eating lunch in a cheap cafeteria
20100326 16:45:55< Unnheulu> (which is now 3 times the national average)
20100326 16:46:12< Telaron_> Somewhere near Santiago?
20100326 16:46:21-!- stano [~stano@ig511.imafex.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20100326 16:46:51< Telaron_> Ever talk with Tsi?
20100326 16:47:11< Unnheulu> I've never met TSI.
20100326 16:47:36< Telaron_> Go drive to his house and see what he is up to...
20100326 16:47:52< Telaron_> Back to the forums! See you guys.
20100326 16:47:54< Unnheulu> No.
20100326 16:47:58< Unnheulu> c'ya
20100326 16:48:03< Unnheulu> you can be on irc and the forums
20100326 16:48:04< Unnheulu> I am
20100326 16:48:09< Unnheulu> (dual screening :D)
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20100326 16:52:26< torchie> colloquy is pretty fly
20100326 16:55:34< Gambit> for a white IRC client.
20100326 16:57:54< Unnheulu> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/8587969.stm
20100326 16:57:57< Unnheulu> zomg
20100326 16:58:04< Unnheulu> I wonder if he was drunk
20100326 17:00:17< shadowmaster> Gambit: it was a goddamn joke
20100326 17:00:33< shadowmaster> now it's not funny anymore
20100326 17:01:17< Unnheulu> *waits with baited breath for the lock*
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20100326 17:03:07< shadowmaster> didn't I lock the thread after I made that joke?
20100326 17:03:27< Unnheulu> you locked the user forum one :P
20100326 17:03:30< Unnheulu> not the ot
20100326 17:03:51< shadowmaster> what the-
20100326 17:04:50 * Unnheulu thinks sm had not noticed that thread
20100326 17:05:03< shadowmaster> of course not, I've just came back after class
20100326 17:05:14< Unnheulu> :-P
20100326 17:05:23< Unnheulu> wait, your in school?
20100326 17:05:27< shadowmaster> university
20100326 17:05:28< Unnheulu> *were
20100326 17:05:38< Unnheulu> ok..thought you left that after the tea incident
20100326 17:05:58< shadowmaster> so, over the course of, um, 4 hours, people have demonstrated that I overestimate Common Sense™
20100326 17:06:07< Unnheulu> :-D
20100326 17:06:09< shadowmaster> therefore I cannot be awesome.
20100326 17:06:20< shadowmaster> there's nothing more to see here, go away! shoo
20100326 17:06:42< Gambit> I wanted to have a few more replies before you got here :(
20100326 17:06:56< Unnheulu> :-P
20100326 17:07:12< Jarkko> Awesome does not equal to perfect... :(
20100326 17:07:19< Unnheulu> anyone know where turuk is btw?
20100326 17:07:31< Gambit> Unnheulu: Afghanistan by now.
20100326 17:07:35< Unnheulu> kay
20100326 17:07:36< Gambit> :(
20100326 17:07:46< Gambit> Or soon anyway.
20100326 17:07:47< Unnheulu> so basically; possibly dead?
20100326 17:07:50< shadowmaster> and apparently for another year, even...or so I read in some nlocal ewspapers
20100326 17:07:57< Gambit> what the fuck no he isn't pssibly dead :@
20100326 17:08:12< Unnheulu> :-P
20100326 17:08:14< Gambit> He's *turuk*
20100326 17:08:23< Gambit> Not funny. Seriously.
20100326 17:08:37< Unnheulu> thousands have died out there though..:P
20100326 17:08:55< Sacho> out of how many?
20100326 17:09:01< Unnheulu> good question :P
20100326 17:09:03< shadowmaster> Gambit: but he has only a 40-1 ranged pierce attack :(
20100326 17:09:15< Gambit> Okay I don't feel like talking to anyone who can discuss deaths in iraq with a toungue emote on the end
20100326 17:09:17< shadowmaster> there's not enough CTH if he's attacked by many ranged attack users
20100326 17:09:33< shadowmaster> *CTNotGetKilled
20100326 17:10:02< Unnheulu> Gambit: you are not yet used to the British eccentricity then
20100326 17:10:15< shadowmaster> I'm apparently an ellipse, too
20100326 17:10:26< Gambit> There'd be a lot less deaths if your country would get off its rear and help clean up the world a little!
20100326 17:10:45< Unnheulu> Gambit: that's the great thing about having an empire...
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20100326 17:10:50< shadowmaster> let's not get into a political discussion anyway :)
20100326 17:10:55< shadowmaster> (...)
20100326 17:10:55< Unnheulu> You don't need to care about the rest of the world :D
20100326 17:10:57< Unnheulu> he left^^
20100326 17:11:05< shadowmaster> noted
20100326 17:11:20< Unnheulu> (for the logs, America is not the world police force)
20100326 17:11:39< Unnheulu> (also for the logs, I am sick of America's interference in trivial things)
20100326 17:12:38< Jarkko> Let's move on to more cheerful subjects.
20100326 17:12:42< Jarkko> Like - Kittens :D
20100326 17:12:57< Unnheulu> or Emacs vs Vi vs Nano
20100326 17:13:32< Jarkko> Can't participate on *that* debate... <_<;
20100326 17:13:43< Unnheulu> I use Nano; which is why I added it^^
20100326 17:14:10< Unnheulu> bbiab on my laptop
20100326 17:14:29< shadowmaster> nano is great for a rescue system editor
20100326 17:14:31< Unnheulu> gonna go play stronghold 2, not in the mood for wesnoth (aka cba to use my brain)
20100326 17:14:34< shadowmaster> otherwise, vim
20100326 17:14:39< Unnheulu> I don't get vim
20100326 17:14:52< shadowmaster> VI iMproved
20100326 17:14:54< Unnheulu> the first time I used it (stupidly) was trying to rescue my system
20100326 17:14:59< shadowmaster> yeah, same here
20100326 17:15:08< Unnheulu> it didn't go well >.>
20100326 17:15:24< shadowmaster> then I learned some. And some. And I'm still not going to use it to write code, but I can do some basic operations if I can't use a GUI editor
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20100326 17:19:57< Unnheulu> bbiab
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20100326 17:20:51< Sacho> well, difficulty with vim mostly stems from its major difference to other editors, especially gui ones
20100326 17:22:18< shadowmaster> and yet vi and vim were there before most commonly used text editors [citation needed]
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20100326 17:22:42< shadowmaster> well, there's a Gtk2 interface for vim.
20100326 17:23:14< Sacho> yeah
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20100326 17:23:26< Unnheulu|Laptop> back
20100326 17:23:41< Sacho> I guess if vim was the first text editor I was in touch with, it'd not be "hard" to learn
20100326 17:24:36< [Relic]> Hello :)
20100326 17:24:47< Unnheulu|Laptop> heya
20100326 17:25:06< [Relic]> :)
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20100326 17:35:50< Gambit> Logs duly noted, but not at all on topic.
20100326 17:36:09< Unnheulu|Laptop> :-P
20100326 17:36:21< Gambit> You shouldn't be able to smile while thinking of the people out there who are dying to keep you safe.
20100326 17:36:29< Unnheulu|Laptop> Keeping me safe?
20100326 17:36:31< shadowmaster> Gambit: yeah, not on topic
20100326 17:36:32< Unnheulu|Laptop> I doubt it
20100326 17:36:33< Gambit> Because they bleed not just for their own country.
20100326 17:36:36< shadowmaster> I think we all agreed on that.
20100326 17:36:48< Gambit> Unnheulu|Laptop: Every terrorist they kill is one less that will be blowing up your subways.
20100326 17:36:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> ...
20100326 17:37:00< Gambit> A little respect and decorum please.
20100326 17:37:03< Unnheulu|Laptop> there are no subways near me :D
20100326 17:37:23< Unnheulu|Laptop> plus I already live in the most violent part of britain, how much worse can it get? :P
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20100326 17:38:35< Unnheulu|Laptop> Gambit, if you want to continue join #wesnoth-ot
20100326 17:40:58< Gambit> Continue to watch you laugh at all the men and women who give up their lives so the world can be a little better? No thanks.
20100326 17:41:14< Gambit> Including one whom several people in this room count as a friend.
20100326 17:41:34< shadowmaster> including me. That doesn't mean I agree with the american way of doing things. Again, not on-topic.
20100326 17:42:32< Gambit> shadowmaster: I can't say I agree with the war either, but that's the politicians. Not the soldiers.
20100326 17:44:37< shadowmaster> I know that very well, too.
20100326 17:46:28< Unnheulu|Laptop> the soldiers agreed by joining the army
20100326 17:46:54< Unnheulu|Laptop> they are not conscripts
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20100326 17:47:27< zenhoobb-it> hai
20100326 17:47:34< Jarkko> Hey
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20100326 17:49:07< zenhoobb-it> a guy named Blade-Master_PL spam the lobby saying bad words in polish and write in caps too
20100326 17:50:13< shadowmaster> zenhoobb-it: maybe you could stop reporting things assuming that the admins and mods aren't watching the lobby?
20100326 17:50:27< shadowmaster> (by which I mean that such assumption would be wrong)
20100326 17:51:40< shadowmaster> what's more, what he was saying is "who is polish?"
20100326 17:52:04< shadowmaster> well, except that one line :)
20100326 17:52:15< zenhoobb-it> what is the problem in reporting violations? maybe you can say thanks...
20100326 17:52:37< Soliton> the problem is that you can't figure out what real violations are.
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20100326 17:53:04< Soliton> so, we're not going to thank you for keeping us busy chasing your silly reports.
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20100326 18:07:21< zenhoobb-it> so a guy who make 3 rule violations at one time it's all right...
20100326 18:08:09< Soliton> well, just consider that you're not banned yet.
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20100326 18:08:47< Soliton> that should give you some idea how strict we are with our rules.
20100326 18:10:34< zenhoobb-it> what rules? I don't violated any
20100326 18:11:27< Gambit> You've sworn in the lobby, and repeatedly falsely reported others for doing so.
20100326 18:12:04< zenhoobb-it> sworn?
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20100326 18:34:23< King_Elendil> hello
20100326 18:37:16< zenhoobb-it> hello
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20100326 18:37:59< King_Elendil> LotR fan?
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20100326 18:39:11< Smar> main idea with rules (well, for wesnoth atleast) is to reduce amount of trash coming up, not control people
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20100326 18:42:55< King_Elendil> what?
20100326 18:44:51< Smar> that were to topic before you joined
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20100326 19:08:12< zenhoobb-it> I imagine that neither people who chat in the lobby from 1 hour interests you...
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20100326 19:10:02< Gambit> That statement made no sense.
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20100326 19:10:54< Samwise> It really didn't
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20100326 19:37:26< zenhoobb-it> take a look in the lobby...
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20100326 19:39:19< Stormer_> how do i set canrecruit to true if the unit has already been made?
20100326 19:39:26< Stormer_> (eg in a [effects])
20100326 19:41:14< Stormer_> Gambit: please help! :P
20100326 19:41:42< Gambit> store the unit first
20100326 19:41:55< Gambit> {VARIABLE stored_unit.canrecruit "1"}
20100326 19:42:13< Gambit> Then unstore.
20100326 19:42:50< Gambit> I don't really mess with effects these days, or if I do I force them in with variables. The code is much shorter.
20100326 19:43:20< Stormer_> me not understand :-P
20100326 19:43:35< Gambit> Okay what event did you want to use [effect] in?
20100326 19:43:47< Stormer_> I tried canrecruit=yes
20100326 19:43:51< Stormer_> oh
20100326 19:43:53< Stormer_> a moveto
20100326 19:44:06< Gambit> Okay then put {VARIABLE unit.canrecruit "yes"}
20100326 19:44:22< Gambit> Then [unstore_unit]variable=unit[/unstore_unit]
20100326 19:44:56< Gambit> I'm not actually sure [effect] is capable of setting canrecruit.
20100326 19:45:14< Stormer_> but he's already on the map...
20100326 19:45:22< Gambit> Right.
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20100326 20:25:52< zenhoobb-it> hey Soliton the lobby is REALLY overspammed now if you take a simply look you will see I don't lie
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20100326 20:37:23< kasi> does slow affect a unit until the end of the round or until it's the turn of the player that slowed that unit?
20100326 20:38:43< zookeeper> until the end of the slowed unit's turn
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20100326 20:38:52< zookeeper> (unless i horrible misremember it)
20100326 20:47:55< kasi> but that's not really fair. it can be a short time or a long time depending when that player makes the next turn
20100326 20:48:12< zookeeper> that's true
20100326 20:48:25< zookeeper> there was a rationale behind that choice though
20100326 20:49:03< kasi> and that rationale was?
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20100326 20:53:25< zookeeper> kasi, IIRC it was mostly a case of it being simplest to implement this way
20100326 20:54:03< zookeeper> also i think some of the MP devs prefer it this way too, although i'm pretty sure some don't
20100326 20:54:33< zookeeper> so if someone wrote a patch that'd change it to work in a more intuitive way, i'm pretty sure it'd at least be considered
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20100326 20:55:42< zookeeper> the thing is that if you made the slowing last for example one full turn, both the game and the player would need to keep track of when the slowing actually occurred. currently there's no need, as the unit will be unslowed when the side ends its turn.
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20100326 20:59:23< zookeeper> kasi, the latest short discussion about it: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=28541
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20100326 21:10:45< kasi> zookeeper: thanks
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20100326 23:03:01< HanSolo> I declare that the Merman Netcaster be replaced by the Merman Pillager.
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