--- Log opened Thu Apr 15 00:00:03 2010
--- Day changed Thu Apr 15 2010
20100415 00:00:03< pokhbocee> how different?
20100415 00:01:04< Crab_> well, c++ passes a c++ config, lua passes a lua table representing a config.
20100415 00:01:38< Crab_> and c++ can ask if a given unit matches filter.
20100415 00:01:44< Crab_> via a method in unit::
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20100415 00:08:50< pokhbocee> Crab_: can you give an example?
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20100415 00:10:16< Crab_> pokhbocee: what to do ?
20100415 00:10:28< Crab_> pokhbocee: e.g, 'what should be done in the example?'
20100415 00:10:46< pokhbocee> to get units of side x
20100415 00:10:50< pokhbocee> for example
20100415 00:11:43< Crab_> see the implementation of intf_get_units in src/scripting/lua.cpp
20100415 00:11:59< Crab_> instead of !ui->matches_filter, you can use (ui->side()!=side)
20100415 00:12:08< Crab_> where side is your side number.
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20100415 00:29:03< Crab_> pokhbocee: it was enough ? or more info needed ?
20100415 00:29:32< pokhbocee> i am still trying to figure it out but i am not sure
20100415 00:29:40< pokhbocee> yeah can u explain it lil bit more
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20100415 00:30:29< Crab_> if you want to get a list of units matching the criteria in c++, it's generally just "loop over all the units, select those which match criteria"
20100415 00:30:43< Crab_> the units in play are in unit_map
20100415 00:30:44< pokhbocee> oh so i shouldnt use the filter
20100415 00:31:07< Crab_> so, we do a foreach loop on the unit map, checking if each unit matches filter or not
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20100415 00:31:17< Crab_> yes, unit filter is per-unit in C++
20100415 00:34:58< jacob_> I think I am getting somewhere :D
20100415 00:35:04< Crab_> jacob_: :))
20100415 00:35:38< jacob_> I re-booted into Linux :D
20100415 00:35:52< jacob_> I have all the dependencies installed
20100415 00:36:21< Crab_> that's surely a fast way to get somewhere ;)
20100415 00:37:02< jacob_> Unfortunately I am not used to make
20100415 00:37:32< jacob_> Whenever I built my code I didn't use it
20100415 00:37:36< pokhbocee> i really hate learning an existing interface :D
20100415 00:38:01< Crab_> jacob_: you can use scons , too
20100415 00:38:09< jacob_> In Linux?
20100415 00:38:14< Crab_> jacob_: yes
20100415 00:38:33< jacob_> scons is better than make?
20100415 00:38:33< Crab_> jacob_: for example, I'm using scons on my debian gnu/linux notebook.
20100415 00:38:49< Crab_> jacob_: I liked it, haven't got troubles with it
20100415 00:39:14< jacob_> Ok :D
20100415 00:39:21< pokhbocee> jacob_: auto tools is the simplest i think :D
20100415 00:39:27< Crab_> jacob_: it even compiled wesnoth on freebsd without much issues ;)
20100415 00:39:35< pokhbocee> i tried on another computer to use scons. still got problems :D
20100415 00:40:12< jacob_> Installing right now :D
20100415 00:40:38< jacob_> Installed :D
20100415 00:40:43< Crab_> we'll see how it goes for you
20100415 00:40:59< jacob_> Ok, now what?
20100415 00:41:47< jacob_> I have never been in an ope-source project before
20100415 00:41:51< jacob_> *open
20100415 00:42:16< Crab_> jacob_: so, you've just compiled ?
20100415 00:42:30< jacob_> Unfortunately not :(
20100415 00:42:47< jacob_> I am somewhat lost at this point
20100415 00:42:54< Crab_> well, you have the source, yes ?
20100415 00:43:00< jacob_> Yes, that I have
20100415 00:43:32< jacob_> I just type scons in the directory?
20100415 00:43:36< Crab_> yes
20100415 00:43:42< Crab_> (provided that you have the dependencies)
20100415 00:43:47< Crab_> if you don't, it'll tell you
20100415 00:44:23< jacob_> Compiling ...
20100415 00:44:28< Crab_> cool
20100415 00:44:33< jacob_> All looks well :D
20100415 00:44:48< jacob_> Unit tests are disabled?
20100415 00:45:06< Crab_> that's ok.
20100415 00:45:20< jacob_> scons: *** [wesnoth] Target disabled because its prerequisites are not met
20100415 00:45:41< jacob_> What does that mean?
20100415 00:45:55< Crab_> well, the project includes several 'targets'
20100415 00:45:55< shadowmaster> that a prerequisite wasn't met
20100415 00:46:08< shadowmaster> check what configure says when configuring the build
20100415 00:46:12< Crab_> 'wesnoth' (client), 'wesnothd' (multiplayer server), and tests
20100415 00:46:13< shadowmaster> er, what scons says
20100415 00:46:30< Crab_> to build a target, you need everything needed preinstalled
20100415 00:46:44< ABCD> as a *packager*, I really, really, dislike scons... :D
20100415 00:46:44< Crab_> scons checks for this beforehand, to find out the location of each needed tool, and to warn you before building
20100415 00:47:00< jacob_> So I am missing a dependency?
20100415 00:47:02< shadowmaster> ABCD: you are a packager? for what platform?
20100415 00:47:06< Crab_> jacob_: so, it figured out that you haven't got everything needed to run tests.
20100415 00:47:07< ABCD> shadowmaster: Gentoo
20100415 00:47:17< Crab_> jacob_: but don't worry, the main targets are 'wesnoth' and 'wesnothd'
20100415 00:47:26< Crab_> you'll be able to go without tests just fine.
20100415 00:47:28 * ABCD isn't the maintainer for BfW itself...
20100415 00:47:39< shadowmaster> ABCD: ahhh, okay
20100415 00:47:47< jacob_> So now I just run the executable?
20100415 00:48:03< Crab_> jacob_: yes, after it compiles, just run, no need to install it.
20100415 00:48:07< ABCD> right now, we use cmake for wesnoth
20100415 00:48:11< shadowmaster> ABCD: and I was just going to ask you for your forum account to mark it as such :P
20100415 00:48:32 * ABCD runs svn trunk, anyway :D
20100415 00:48:32< pokhbocee> Crab_: in battle_context how do we specify the attacker and defender
20100415 00:48:35< Crab_> jacob_: it will use the 'data' directory in the checkout folder as the 'data folder which contains scenarios and other data'
20100415 00:48:40< Crab_> pokhbocee: in it's constructor
20100415 00:48:55< shadowmaster> from the user PoV, cmake feels too awkward to me, but I'll speak of that some other day
20100415 00:49:14< shadowmaster> I prefer scons myself, but only because I don't have to maintain it
20100415 00:49:16< Crab_> pokhbocee: see intf_simulate_combat in src/scripting/lua.cpp
20100415 00:49:45< Crab_> pokhbocee: we supply the locations of attacker and defender to it
20100415 00:50:10< jacob_> Crab_: What exactly does sconce call the executable?
20100415 00:50:12< Crab_> pokhbocee: or see the battle_context::battle_context constructor in src/actions.cpp
20100415 00:50:13< pokhbocee> in constructor it ask for unit_stat
20100415 00:50:33< Crab_> jacob_: depends on the build type 'wesnoth' or 'wesnoth-debug'
20100415 00:50:50< Crab_> e.g., in a release build, from the source folder, it can be usually run as ./wesnoth
20100415 00:50:56< jacob_> It's running! :D
20100415 00:51:03< Crab_> jacob_: great!
20100415 00:51:25< jacob_> :D
20100415 00:51:39< Crab_> jacob_: now it's time to play the game :) and then - time to break it ;))) e.g., find a bug, try to reproduce it, and then, try to fix :)
20100415 00:51:40< pokhbocee> Crab_: oh i see the other const.
20100415 00:51:50< jacob_> Today is the 43rd greatest day of my life :D
20100415 00:52:19< jacob_> Also, I have found a bug
20100415 00:52:19< Crab_> interesting :)
20100415 00:52:25< Crab_> you are fast :)
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20100415 00:54:00< Crab_> jacob_: try running wesnoth in a debugger
20100415 00:54:32< Crab_> in general, the tools to use to familiarize yourself with the source are fgrep (or any other find-in-files tool) and gdb (debugger)
20100415 00:55:08< Crab_> you can break to debugger in various places of game, check the backtrace and find out which parts of code are used for various things
20100415 00:55:29< Crab_> to make it most useful, you need to compile a debug build. it's slower, but contains a lot of extra info
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20100415 00:57:45< jacob_> Am I re-connected?
20100415 00:57:55< Crab_> yes
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20100415 00:58:00< Crab_> jacob_: check the logs (see topic)
20100415 00:58:00< jacob_> Good
20100415 00:58:24< jacob_> My computer disconnected from internet ><
20100415 00:58:41< jacob_> There are logs?
20100415 00:58:45< Crab_> yes
20100415 00:58:50< Crab_> http://irclogs.wesnoth.org
20100415 00:59:49< Crab_> (after those things I've said in the log)... to build wesnoth in debug mode with scons, you use 'scons build=debug' command. also you can try scons --help
20100415 01:00:19< Crab_> after building in debug mode, you'll be able to play with the debugger to quickly find out where in the source tree we're located at any moment of time
20100415 01:00:40< Crab_> and by (ab)using a suitable search tool, you'll be able to crossreference the various parts of the game source faster.
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20100415 01:03:33< jacob_> This is aggravating ><
20100415 01:03:48< jacob_> I have re-connected?
20100415 01:04:03< Crab_> yes.
20100415 01:04:12< Crab_> again, you can look it up in the logs.
20100415 01:04:35< Crab_> ( http://irclogs.wesnoth.org , if you disconnected before receiving the link )
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20100415 01:08:46< jacob_> Ok, I think the problem with my internet is fixed
20100415 01:09:09< jacob_> I am re-connected right?
20100415 01:09:18< Crab_> yes
20100415 01:10:05< Crab_> (again, just in case you've disconnected before receiving the link to logs - http://www.wesnoth.org/irclogs/2010/04/%23wesnoth-dev.2010-04-15.log
20100415 01:12:05< Crab_> night. and good luck hunting for bugs :)
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20100415 01:12:28< lfernando> evening
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20100415 01:16:02< jacob_> Am I re-connected?
20100415 01:16:24< jacob_> ><
20100415 01:16:48< jacob_> Anyone here?
20100415 01:16:55< ABCD> jacob_: no, no one is here :D
20100415 01:17:24< jacob_> :D
20100415 01:17:46< jacob_> Now I get to fix bugs :D
20100415 01:18:59< jacob_> So ... where exactly do I begin?
20100415 01:19:58< lfernando> do you know how to compile the source?
20100415 01:20:02< lfernando> that's a good start
20100415 01:20:34< jacob_> Yes, I have it compiled
20100415 01:21:20< lfernando> nice
20100415 01:21:32< jacob_> Ya, Crab_ helped me
20100415 01:21:46< lfernando> you may want to compile it with debug mode turned on
20100415 01:21:56< lfernando> so you can use gdb with it
20100415 01:22:02< jacob_> Debug mode?
20100415 01:22:07< lfernando> yes
20100415 01:22:11< jacob_> Ok
20100415 01:22:13< lfernando> on scons
20100415 01:22:28< lfernando> if you compile it with
20100415 01:22:52< lfernando> scons build=debug
20100415 01:23:22< lfernando> you will get another executable called wesnoth-debug
20100415 01:23:36< jacob_> So gdb now has access to wesnoth-debug?
20100415 01:24:04< lfernando> yes, you can run gdb with it
20100415 01:24:19< lfernando> it sure helps a lot
20100415 01:24:35< jacob_> I actually haven't used gdb much
20100415 01:26:59< lfernando> There are a few tutorials on the internet. You can also browse source code on (wesnoth base directory)/src/ .
20100415 01:28:02< jacob_> Ok
20100415 01:28:12< lfernando> I'm not sure how can you tune it for other debuggers as well, myself I use gdb =)
20100415 01:28:23< jacob_> Where are the bug reports stored at?
20100415 01:29:28< lfernando> you can browse them at bugs.wesnoth.org
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20100415 01:38:06< jacob_> 'night
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20100415 02:32:57< fakedrake> hello all
20100415 02:33:22< fakedrake> osrry i didnt speak for a while
20100415 02:33:25< ne0futur> hi all, i have a replay of a game o the official server, where an opponent gets 2 lancers , appearing from nowhere , out of the castle
20100415 02:33:56< ne0futur> seems like a cheating bug . . . are you interested in the replay ? non of us seen OOS errors , but still 2 units appear from nowhere
20100415 02:34:31< fakedrake> i am not really the one to depend on about bugs(yet i hope)
20100415 02:34:38< fakedrake> but i am interested
20100415 02:35:06< fakedrake> you have it somewhere?
20100415 02:35:34< fakedrake> (do a bug report firs of all)
20100415 02:35:43< ne0futur> yes i m uploading the repeat save
20100415 02:37:40< ne0futur> http://xena.ww7.be/4p_-_Isar_s_Cross_repeticion.gz
20100415 02:38:01< ne0futur> is the reap useful or could you need a normal save too ?
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20100415 02:39:03< ne0futur> ( 2 lancers appear west of the south castle around turn 8 )
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20100415 02:45:06< ne0futur> ai_special="guardian"
20100415 02:45:14< ne0futur> they appear as this in the save
20100415 02:45:19< ne0futur> turn 10
20100415 02:45:37< ne0futur> at 11.21 and 12.22
20100415 02:45:47< ne0futur> side=1
20100415 02:46:37< ne0futur> there also seem to be much gold added to side 4 at turn 10
20100415 02:50:34< Sirp> hi ne0futur
20100415 02:50:39< ne0futur> hi Sirp
20100415 02:50:57< Sirp> long time... :)
20100415 02:51:11< ne0futur> how come its possible we seen this cheat with no OOS errors ?
20100415 02:51:21< ne0futur> ah you remember me Sirp ;)
20100415 02:51:35< Sirp> mmmhmmmm
20100415 02:51:39 * shadowmaster doesn't remember neither people
20100415 02:51:44< shadowmaster> *neither person
20100415 02:52:03< Sirp> good to see old timers around from time to time.
20100415 02:52:04< ne0futur> shadowmaster: you played wesnoth at 0.6 version ?
20100415 02:52:15< shadowmaster> nope.
20100415 02:52:24< shadowmaster> I first played at 0.9.6, and didn't join the community till 1.2
20100415 02:52:50< shadowmaster> (replace 0.9.6 with 0.8.something if you believe that trying the game out and getting bored in 2 minutes counts)
20100415 02:53:33< ne0futur> ( and wsnoth is still my preferred game, although the 16 bit color support have been more or less dropped ;( )
20100415 02:53:34< Gambit> You know it'd be cool for your history thing if you covered the community too.
20100415 02:53:46< Gambit> But I doubt there are screenies of the website, or info on the forums/wiki from way back then...
20100415 02:54:03< shadowmaster> Gambit: the wayback archive
20100415 02:54:15< Gambit> *info _about_ forums/wiki/website
20100415 02:54:20< Gambit> Not "on".
20100415 02:54:22< shadowmaster> but that isn't much interesting, and it tends to miss a lot of stuff
20100415 02:54:34< shadowmaster> gods, I'm mutating into an IPS.
20100415 02:54:38< shadowmaster> s/much/very/
20100415 02:55:04< Gambit> We think it's able to spread through blog comments.
20100415 02:55:17< shadowmaster> :C
20100415 02:55:37< Gambit> We've quarentined infected blogs, but I'm afraid it's too late for those already experiencing symptoms.
20100415 02:55:39< ne0futur> ah wesnoth still have the --bpp option . . . but the colors are awful with 16 bpp screen
20100415 02:55:51< Gambit> It would be a lot less painful if we just euthanized...
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20100415 02:56:12< shadowmaster> I didn't know wesnoth had some kind of special support for 16 bpp
20100415 02:56:29< shadowmaster> then again, I've always used 24/32 bpp Windows and X.org configurations
20100415 02:57:03< ne0futur> it worked well untiel version 1.2 iirc
20100415 02:57:18< ne0futur> and the color probleme is only on the highlighting
20100415 02:57:40< ne0futur> probably a developper added 32b colors without knowing of 16 bit screens at this time
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20100415 02:57:55< ne0futur> I can still play it at 16 bpp colors but its sometimes a bit difficult
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20100415 02:58:23< shadowmaster> I believe there were bugs filed against wesnoth regarding 16 bpp support
20100415 02:59:08< shadowmaster> ew, using Firefox with almost 0% of RAM free isn't nice
20100415 03:00:06< ne0futur> running firefox and wesnoth at the same time is very hard since version 1.0
20100415 03:00:43< Sirp> ne0futur: why are you still using a device with a 16bpp screen?
20100415 03:00:44< shadowmaster> not if you have enough RAM. I don't have RAM here since it's locked by VirtualBox for Windows XP
20100415 03:00:48< Sirp> it is 2010 now. :)
20100415 03:00:50< ne0futur> http://xena.ww7.be/wesnoth_16bpp.png
20100415 03:01:09< ne0futur> heres what it gives with 16 bpp screen and --bpp 16 option
20100415 03:01:28< ne0futur> Sirp: i m very poor
20100415 03:01:34< Sirp> ne0futur: yeah I guess some picky people would call that a bug. ;)
20100415 03:01:42< ne0futur> i also run wesnoth at 800x600 on an old screen
20100415 03:01:48< shadowmaster> I wonder if that isn't actually a bug in SDL though
20100415 03:02:04< ne0futur> its 2010 but there arestill many poor countries using old 80x600 screens
20100415 03:02:18< ne0futur> poverty have not been eradicated fron this planet
20100415 03:02:45< ne0futur> my laptop s inverter os dead, so i just use an old 800x600 monitor
20100415 03:02:52< Sirp> shadowmaster: no I'm pretty sure it's our fault.
20100415 03:03:09< shadowmaster> note that resolution != color depth
20100415 03:03:19< ne0futur> me too, just one color have been added this ay
20100415 03:03:31< ne0futur> table raw highlits
20100415 03:03:46< ne0futur> in game list and in nicnames list
20100415 03:03:51< shadowmaster> my older desktop box had a screen capapble of up to 1024x768, but only 800x600 at 85 Hz
20100415 03:04:06< shadowmaster> and it had enough VRAM for 32 bpp
20100415 03:04:06< ne0futur> scenario lists too
20100415 03:04:10< shadowmaster> s/32/24/
20100415 03:04:31< shadowmaster> ..in fact, my oldest desktop box managed 24 bpp at 640x480 with 1 MB of VRAM
20100415 03:04:52< ne0futur> "game name" field too when you create a game
20100415 03:04:55< shadowmaster> but yeah, you can't really run Wesnoth with resolutions below 800x400 unless using tinygui
20100415 03:05:59< shadowmaster> anyhow I'm supposed to be doing my homework
20100415 03:06:35< Espreon> So should I, but... yeahz...
20100415 03:07:39< ne0futur> http://xena.ww7.be/wesnoth_16bpp_newgame.png
20100415 03:07:47< ne0futur> same bug on the newgame screen
20100415 03:07:59< shadowmaster> -.- I waste all of my RAM for this crap: http://shadowm.rewound.net/wasteofram.png
20100415 03:09:46< Espreon> Oh noez, maths...
20100415 03:14:49< CIA-32> torangan * r42134 /trunk/po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): hungarian translation update
20100415 03:15:16 * Espreon finds it creepy that he can understand most of the Spanish in that screenshot...
20100415 03:15:57< ne0futur> french english and spanish are nearly the same language ;)
20100415 03:16:05< ne0futur> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15882
20100415 03:16:14< ne0futur> one bug report for the 16 bpp thing
20100415 03:16:14< Espreon> Uh... no.
20100415 03:16:22< Espreon> English... is a Germanic language...
20100415 03:16:25< ne0futur> and I create the other for the MP cheat adding gold and units
20100415 03:16:29< Espreon> French and Spanish are... Romance languages.
20100415 03:16:54< CIA-32> torangan * r42135 /branches/1.8/po/ (23 files in 23 dirs): hungarian translation update
20100415 03:16:57< ne0futur> to me, french is somewhere between spanish and english . . .
20100415 03:17:00< Espreon> It just happens that English has been severely emasculated over the years by demons.
20100415 03:17:22< ne0futur> german is so much different and more difficult
20100415 03:17:45< Espreon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English#Beowulf ... Yeah, definitely not a Romance language.
20100415 03:18:03< Espreon> Meh, German has been screwed up to an extent as well...
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20100415 03:20:27< Espreon> ne0futur: ... but of course it would be much more difficult for speakers of Romance languages, as it hasn't been emasculated as much as English has.
20100415 03:20:38< Espreon> Lucky Icelandic...
20100415 03:21:48< Espreon> ... and I don't know why I find talking about these things amusing...
20100415 03:23:32< ne0futur> lucky world , to me its a good thing english is what it is now . . an easy language for everyone on the internet
20100415 03:23:48< ne0futur> no other language qualifies as an international language as much as english . . .
20100415 03:24:06< ne0futur> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15883
20100415 03:24:14< ne0futur> the other bug report for the MP cheat
20100415 03:25:27< ne0futur> its not the first time I m sure someone is cheating me on the MP server, but this time it was really too much
20100415 03:25:46 * Espreon wouldn't care, as he is an elitist bastard.
20100415 03:26:23< ne0futur> elitist means only ther cheaters can survive ?
20100415 03:26:28< Espreon> No.
20100415 03:26:51< Gambit> That's not really a bug. It's just someone being a jerk.
20100415 03:27:03< Espreon> I was responding to your remarks about English being an international language... that being great and all of that...
20100415 03:27:13< Gambit> He probably has a modified copy of isars cross.
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20100415 04:12:35< King_Elendil> Is TSI here?
20100415 04:13:11< King_Elendil> with a different nickname?
20100415 04:13:23< Espreon> Nah...
20100415 04:13:32< Espreon> ... not of which I know... at least.
20100415 04:13:50< King_Elendil> oh, ok
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20100415 06:08:36< ne0futur> Sirp: http://whitevine.net/guestbook/ http://whitevine.net/gallery/
20100415 06:08:47< ne0futur> Sirp: there are bad links ;(
20100415 06:17:53< shadowmaster> ne0futur: where did you get those from?
20100415 06:18:20< shadowmaster> I ah, never mind I need to sleep
20100415 06:18:44< shadowmaster> I can't got o slee now but I really need it
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20100415 06:32:24< ne0futur> shadowmaster: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Credits
20100415 06:32:46< shadowmaster> I guessed you geot there from whitevine.net's index
20100415 06:33:14< shadowmaster> although it's been a while since I last heard that hostname anyway
20100415 06:34:20< shadowmaster> like, years
20100415 06:34:42< ne0futur> David White (Sirp) - Lead Developer
20100415 06:34:45< ne0futur>
20100415 06:35:09< ne0futur> yes i found them on whitevine.net's index
20100415 06:35:25< shadowmaster> no need to paste the source :P
20100415 06:35:40< shadowmaster> it's just that I never look at the credits in the neat format that is the wiki article
20100415 06:35:42< ne0futur> just 2 lines . . . no bot would kick me for 2 lines paste :p
20100415 06:36:01< shadowmaster> e.g. I can't see the URLs clearly when editing the WML
20100415 06:36:12< ne0futur> I were so happy sirp ememered me i wanted to have a look at his website
20100415 06:36:24< ne0futur> remembered me
20100415 06:37:03< ne0futur> but i cant fill a bug report concerning whitevine.net on https://gna.org/bugs/?func=additem&group=wesnoth
20100415 06:39:22< shadowmaster> because whitevine.net has nothing to do with the Battle for Wesnoth Project? ._.
20100415 06:40:04< shadowmaster> (besides sharing a webmaster)
20100415 06:44:56< shadowmaster> e.g. you'd be better asking Sirp in a /query about it.
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20100415 08:40:52< timotei> morning everyone
20100415 08:44:11< billynux> It's night time here :)
20100415 08:44:29< billynux> You insensitive clod (Slashdot reference :) )
20100415 08:44:51< timotei> ops
20100415 08:45:10< billynux> just kiddin'. Where are you from? me -> Argentina
20100415 08:45:11< timotei> well ok, next time I will use: "Ave everyone":))
20100415 08:45:16< timotei> UTC+2 Romania
20100415 08:45:17< timotei> :P
20100415 08:45:32< billynux> Aha.. I'm GMT-3
20100415 08:45:54< billynux> Good thing we have english ...
20100415 08:45:59< timotei> yes
20100415 08:46:02< timotei> brb afk
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20100415 09:54:49< Ivanovic> moin
20100415 09:54:57< timotei> hello Ivanovic
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20100415 09:59:10< Crab_> timotei: ok, looked through your patch in more detail (haven't tried it yet)
20100415 09:59:22< timotei> oh, hey Crab_ didn't see you online
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20100415 10:05:30< billynux> hi Crab_ , Ivanovic , I just sent updates through GSoC page
20100415 10:08:45< Crab_> billynux: hi
20100415 10:08:50< billynux> hi
20100415 10:09:35< Crab_> billynux: I'll read them in +10h, when I'll return home.
20100415 10:10:01< billynux> ok ok, np, just giving heads up, I gotta go to bed now, its 5am :O
20100415 10:10:09< Crab_> ok :)
20100415 10:10:18< Crab_> and I'll read the changes to your wiki page now.
20100415 10:10:19< billynux> bye y'all
20100415 10:10:19< Crab_> thanks
20100415 10:10:21< Crab_> bye
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20100415 10:19:15< Crab_> timotei: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/YiP4KNQ1
20100415 10:19:25< Crab_> those are some notes about your patch
20100415 10:20:19< Crab_> wesbot: seen lfernando
20100415 10:20:20< wesbot> Crab_: The person with the nick lfernando last spoke 8h 50m ago. 6h 15m ago they left with the message: Remote host closed the connection
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20100415 10:23:47< timotei> ok, thanks
20100415 10:23:56< timotei> I have to go now. I'll be online in +2 hours
20100415 10:25:42< Crab_> ok
20100415 10:26:18< Crab_> timotei: #6 is "6) large 'for' blocks like "for(int i=0;i ok, I'm back Crab_
20100415 13:39:49< Rhonda> Oh crap, I'm back.
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20100415 13:56:31< StandYourGround> I have a question… does the wesnothd file control everything for multiplayer (lobby and such), and if I wanted to patch something and rebuild, would it be possible to share the changes with others by giving them only the wesnothd executable to replace the one in their binaries (on Mac)?
20100415 13:57:17< Ivanovic> no
20100415 13:57:38< Ivanovic> task of the wesnothd is simply sending data around
20100415 13:57:50< StandYourGround> different question...
20100415 13:58:08< StandYourGround> What files would be changed in a binary if I patched the MP lobby?
20100415 13:58:37< StandYourGround> would it be just a few files in the final build that I could distrbute to replace the files in other binaries?
20100415 13:58:51< StandYourGround> for example, only for other Mac packages of the same version of Wesnoth
20100415 13:59:41< StandYourGround> I want to see if I can get the 1.6 lobby patch morking on Mac, and distribute a user friendly mac script to handle the patch for non tech-savvy Mac users
20100415 14:00:16< StandYourGround> Not that I really hate the new lobby, but I'm doing it mostly as an experiment in compiling and packagaing
20100415 14:00:56< Ivanovic> binary := the executable file
20100415 14:01:06< Ivanovic> this is normaly several MB large
20100415 14:01:16< StandYourGround> Which is a lot smaller than the whole package of graphics and such
20100415 14:01:24< Ivanovic> on the mac you got this "folder like" thing called .app
20100415 14:01:35< Ivanovic> you can simply cd into the .app file
20100415 14:01:45< StandYourGround> and swap my changed one for the default one
20100415 14:01:48< Ivanovic> somewhere in there (at some predefined place) is the "real" executable
20100415 14:02:06< Ivanovic> that is: there are *several* in there for macs since you have to support different architectures
20100415 14:02:55< StandYourGround> I know about how the .app works… I'm just trying to make a patch installer for Wesnoth 1.8 with the 1.6 lobby patch
20100415 14:03:38< StandYourGround> I think I can just build Wesnoth with the patch, and then distribute only the binaries without all the music, graphics, and other stuff
20100415 14:03:41< StandYourGround> would that work?
20100415 14:04:06< StandYourGround> if it would, then I could make something like as easy as double-clicking a Automator application
20100415 14:04:16< StandYourGround> or an applescript
20100415 14:05:09< Ivanovic> yes, something like this is in general possible
20100415 14:05:16< Ivanovic> no idea how exactly do so for macs
20100415 14:05:26< Ivanovic> especially making sure that the libs and all the likes really work
20100415 14:05:48< StandYourGround> I think I can figure that part out
20100415 14:06:13< StandYourGround> In fact, if I get far enough, I might figure out how to integrate the Sparkle framework with Wesnoth
20100415 14:06:34< StandYourGround> so that future versions of Wesnoth for Mac could be upgraded right from the app itself
20100415 14:06:43< StandYourGround> either by a patch install or downloaded the whole package
20100415 14:06:50< Ivanovic> regarding the mac version and the likes you might want to wait some hours till crimson_penguin joins
20100415 14:07:00< Ivanovic> he does the mac packages and should know what is really required
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20100415 14:07:16< StandYourGround> thanks
20100415 14:07:31< timotei> Ivanovic, the wesnoth.6 file
20100415 14:07:33< timotei> what format is?
20100415 14:07:35< timotei> unix man pages?
20100415 14:07:38< StandYourGround> I think I know how it ticks and all that, I'm just trying to find the simplest way possible...
20100415 14:07:48< Ivanovic> timotei: basically yes
20100415 14:08:04< Ivanovic> timotei: you have to "just" use the syntax given there and add things
20100415 14:08:12< timotei> ok
20100415 14:08:20< Ivanovic> to test if things work: man wesnoth.6
20100415 14:08:35< timotei> so If I want to go on a next row, I just enter a new line, right?
20100415 14:08:45< timotei> I'm not on linux right now
20100415 14:08:51< timotei> but thanks for the tip
20100415 14:10:34< Ivanovic> how to edit the file: use a "reasonable" text editor and just duplicate the syntax used as in the other places
20100415 14:13:31< timotei> I've got Rman in GnuWin32 utils and it works as desired "simulating" the man page
20100415 14:13:32< timotei> thanks
20100415 14:13:50< Ivanovic> you're welcome
20100415 14:13:50< Rhonda> timotei: Leave a blank line. Regular linebreaks are just whitespace in a paragraph.
20100415 14:14:06< timotei> ok
20100415 14:14:26< Rhonda> But yes, testing with man should be done before you commit …
20100415 14:15:00< timotei> I'm not commiting anything yet, I'm making the patch to be reviewed by Crab_
20100415 14:15:06< timotei> or anyone who wishes
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20100415 14:19:57< StandYourGround> hmm… the first phase of my experiment is working...
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20100415 14:20:08< StandYourGround> I seem to be getting a good Mac build coming...
20100415 14:20:41< StandYourGround> I'll come back and look for crimson penguin later. Thanks
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20100415 14:23:48< timotei> Crab_, around?
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20100415 14:39:19< Crab_> timotei: yes
20100415 14:39:34< lfernando> morning everyone
20100415 14:40:35< lfernando> crab_
20100415 14:40:38< lfernando> are you busy?
20100415 14:41:09< Crab_> hi, lfernando.
20100415 14:41:22< Crab_> sort of. but I do have time now.
20100415 14:41:35< lfernando> hi
20100415 14:41:43< lfernando> ok, I'll be brief
20100415 14:41:54< Crab_> lfernando: ok :)
20100415 14:42:03< lfernando> did you see my patch?
20100415 14:42:10< Crab_> yes
20100415 14:43:03< lfernando> I'm putting version 2 this afternoon
20100415 14:43:07< Crab_> cool.
20100415 14:43:33< Crab_> what changed ? does it support container variables ?
20100415 14:44:36< lfernando> I'm putting support to clear_variable and namespaces
20100415 14:45:08< lfernando> I can try to put container variables too
20100415 14:45:30< lfernando> good point, I really was only working with scalar variabl
20100415 14:45:35< lfernando> *variables
20100415 14:46:05< Crab_> good. have you seen my monday's discussion with upthorn ?
20100415 14:46:22< lfernando> yes
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20100415 14:46:37< lfernando> you discussed about namespaces permission
20100415 14:46:41< lfernando> and a few other things
20100415 14:47:25< Crab_> yes, and about architecture, and the importance of splitting things into separate layers with clear responsibilities.
20100415 14:48:32< lfernando> my code is a little crammed on game_events.cpp at the moment =P
20100415 14:48:37< Crab_> np with that :)
20100415 14:48:46< Crab_> the location is easy to change.
20100415 14:49:02< Crab_> what is most important is to avoid various tiny/subtle bugs.
20100415 14:49:42< Crab_> I will try to review your patch as soon as you submit it and ping me about it.
20100415 14:50:01< Crab_> when you expect to be in irc today/tomorrow ?
20100415 14:50:09< lfernando> ok
20100415 14:50:18< lfernando> I'll bug you later =P
20100415 14:50:43< Crab_> ok :)
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20100415 14:55:06< lfernando> btw, I expect to be on Irc on about 7 pm GMT
20100415 14:55:10< lfernando> will message you
20100415 14:56:06< Crab_> ok
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20100415 15:40:28< shadowmaster> updated the Posting Guidelines to make colorful signatures fall into the same category as graphical signatures
20100415 15:42:47< shadowmaster> ...for whatever reason the phpBB guys didn't feel it necesasry to allow admins to further restrict formatting options in signatures :|
20100415 15:43:32< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/opts.png
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20100415 15:55:35< shadowmaster> the hell?
20100415 15:55:41< shadowmaster> I can't do traceroutes from this network?
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20100415 17:18:53< jacob_> brb
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20100415 17:43:37< orfest> Crab_: will you be here in 2 hours to discuss the proposal?
20100415 17:44:48< orfest> Crab_: I've updated my page http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCode_Orfest, will fix the formatting asap :)
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20100415 17:49:27< Ivanovic> interesting, looks like wesnoth is now at the first place in the category 'RPG' for 6 countries in the appstore for iphone/ipad
20100415 17:49:41< Ivanovic> Sirp: once you had a link to some website with stats, do you have that at hand?
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20100415 17:53:07< Crab_> orfest: hi
20100415 17:53:21< Crab_> orfest: yes, in 2 hours (or 3, to be sure)
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20100415 18:15:20< shadowmaster> http://www.amazon.com/Version-Control-Git-collaborative-development/dp/0596520123 <- git must be damn good if it has a Batbook
20100415 18:16:27< shadowmaster> SVN's the turtle. Hidden metaphor?
20100415 18:17:42< timotei> shadowmaster, do the O'reilly guys put random pictures of animals on books?
20100415 18:17:54< timotei> or the animal they choose is based on something?
20100415 18:19:57< shadowmaster> it seems to be random
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20100415 18:22:09< shadowmaster> (maybe)
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20100415 18:28:06< Sirp> timotei: it's fairly random, though they do sometimes try to make it so the characteristics of the animal are somehow related to the topic at hand.
20100415 18:28:23< Sirp> for instance, Perl is meant to be a rugged, flexible language, and a camel is a rugged animal, flexible at surviving.
20100415 18:28:56< shadowmaster> turtles are slow and dumb.
20100415 18:29:17< shadowmaster> bats are cool, period.
20100415 18:31:04< Sirp> turtles have good protection with their shells.
20100415 18:31:28< Sirp> and the coolest is that you can pick their shells up and throw them killing a bunch of enemies. Haven't you ever played Mario?
20100415 18:31:35< shadowmaster> yeah, I have
20100415 18:31:57< shadowmaster> I didn't see the correlation though. So that means we should throw SVN around or we may kill devs
20100415 18:32:04< shadowmaster> *shouldn't
20100415 18:32:30< shadowmaster> :P
20100415 18:33:12< timotei> :))
20100415 18:33:28< timotei> shadowmaster, didn't receive my private message?
20100415 18:34:05< shadowmaster> yeah, I have more than one person in the line
20100415 18:34:12 * shadowmaster checks those messages
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20100415 18:38:19< jacob_> Heya Crab_ :D
20100415 18:38:44< jacob_> What is a foreach loop?
20100415 18:38:58< jacob_> I haven't seen it before
20100415 18:41:32< ilor_> jacob_: it's a boost macro magic that loops through a container, if you mean the C++ one
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20100415 18:41:54< jacob_> Yah
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20100415 18:42:09< jacob_> Thank you
20100415 18:43:14< Crab_> hi, jacob_
20100415 18:43:25< jacob_> Hello
20100415 18:43:36< jacob_> I am looking through the source code
20100415 18:44:00< Crab_> jacob_: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_35_0/doc/html/foreach.html
20100415 18:44:12< Crab_> it's good that you do so :)
20100415 18:44:32< Crab_> found anything interesting in there :) ?
20100415 18:45:05< jacob_> Wesnoth has it's own clipboard :D
20100415 18:45:12< jacob_> Manager
20100415 18:45:26< Crab_> ah :)
20100415 18:45:44< shadowmaster> Its is for possession, "IT'S" is a *contraction* of "IT IS"! p
20100415 18:46:06< shadowmaster> maybe I should steal Thrawn's signature (i.e. Scott's quote)
20100415 18:46:07< jacob_> :p
20100415 18:46:44< jacob_> But this is the internet I get to cheat every once in a while ><
20100415 18:47:39< Sirp> remember that the reason why you can have "jacob's ladder" is because it's a contraction too: of "jacob his ladder" which is the archaic way of expressing possession
20100415 18:47:57< Sirp> however "it's ladder" doesn't make sense, because you can't have "it its ladder"
20100415 18:48:49< Sirp> so actually the only reason to use an apostrophe is for contraction. Or if you're programming. :)
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20100415 18:49:36< jacob_> Thank you as well?
20100415 18:50:20< jacob_> And all the header files are ".hpp" instead of ".h"
20100415 18:52:10< jacob_> Is there a recommended place to start?
20100415 18:52:36< timotei> patches.wesnoth.org
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20100415 18:52:48< timotei> or, easy/notsoeasycoding
20100415 18:52:56< timotei> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/EasyCoding | http://wiki.wesnoth.org/NotSoEasyCoding
20100415 18:53:54< jacob_> Thank you :D
20100415 18:53:59< timotei> you're welcome
20100415 18:54:01< Crab_> jacob_: bugs.wesnoth.org contain interesting things, as well
20100415 18:54:22< Crab_> jacob_: or you can just play around in a debugger, seeing what is the control flow
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20100415 18:55:07< jacob_> I have yet to use the GDB with wesnoth
20100415 18:55:14< jacob_> I should try that now :D
20100415 18:59:16< noy> wesbot: seen mordante?
20100415 18:59:16< wesbot> noy: The person with the nick mordante last spoke 20h 28m ago. 20h 28m ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-de with the message: Quit: Leaving
20100415 19:03:29< jacob_> I'm not sure if this is a bug, but when it is the opponents turn, and he is not doing and action, you have control over the camera
20100415 19:06:46< jacob_> Or is it supposed to do that?
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20100415 19:13:18< shadowmaster> "While in lobby, hitting refresh button crushes Wesnoth"
20100415 19:13:24< shadowmaster> ouch, that bug sounds painful
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20100415 19:17:30< jacob_> I though only Woses had crush?
20100415 19:17:42< jacob_> Undocumented feature++
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20100415 19:19:00< jacob_> And wow scons build=debug takes a while to compile
20100415 19:19:32< timotei> why not using normal cmake+make?
20100415 19:20:03< jacob_> Because the person who helped me used scons
20100415 19:20:38< timotei> ah, ok:)
20100415 19:24:33< jacob_> Also I keep trying, but Ican't recreate this bug: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15789
20100415 19:24:56< Bob_The_Mighty> Does anyone know how to stop a unit switching facing when it is attacked?
20100415 19:25:50< shadowmaster> define directional animations with a clever use of the ~FL() image functor
20100415 19:26:12< shadowmaster> data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/units/monsters/Alien_Body.cfg has a macroified example taken from my campaign
20100415 19:26:32< jacob_> What should I do if I can't recreate the bug?
20100415 19:27:42< shadowmaster> I'd contact ancestral and ask him about the most obvious mistake that could cause that
20100415 19:28:32< Bob_The_Mighty> shadowmaster, thanks! I'll try that.
20100415 19:28:33< jacob_> Is he on the forums?
20100415 19:28:41< shadowmaster> jacob_: he also comes to IRC.
20100415 19:29:02< jacob_> Ok
20100415 19:29:04< shadowmaster> anyway, the obvious mistake is not choosing the correct option in the Map menu, "Auto-update Terrain Transitios" (it's a 3-option toggle)
20100415 19:29:08< shadowmaster> *Transitions
20100415 19:29:22< jacob_> Ahh
20100415 19:30:00< shadowmaster> the default nowadays is not to update automatically because recalculating transitions is very CPU-consuming
20100415 19:30:17< shadowmaster> and IIRC I complained to ilor about it, resulting in a big frakin' option in the menu ;)
20100415 19:30:29< jacob_> Hehehee
20100415 19:30:40< jacob_> So we should close the bug?
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20100415 19:31:54< shadowmaster> I'd mark it as Invalid (bugs aren't defintely closed until a new release of the same series is tagged), but first I want to ask ancestral about it
20100415 19:32:12< shadowmaster> well, I could as well just post the explanation above
20100415 19:32:49< jacob_> Are you? Or should i?
20100415 19:32:54< jacob_> *I
20100415 19:33:11< shadowmaster> meh, I'll post it
20100415 19:33:23< jacob_> Ok :D
20100415 19:33:34< jacob_> So there are 86 bugs now?
20100415 19:36:08< shadowmaster> wesbot: topic
20100415 19:36:11-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: GSoC: Thanks to all GSoC candidates for submitting proposals to Google. Accepted student applications announced on April 26. | 86 bugs, 265 feature requests, 19 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20100415 19:36:16< shadowmaster> looks like
20100415 19:36:52< jacob_> Cool :D
20100415 19:55:59< jacob_> What maps have statues?
20100415 19:56:21< Bob_The_Mighty> is it possible to set status' in a unit cfg? and is resting no longer considered a status?
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20100415 20:04:13< jacob_> tiomotei: Do you know of any maps that have statues?
20100415 20:04:41< timotei> sorry, I'm not so proficient in the campaigns/wml
20100415 20:04:44< shadowmaster> jacob_: Cave of the Baslilish in mainline
20100415 20:05:00< shadowmaster> pah, too difficult to type.
20100415 20:05:03< shadowmaster> 2p_Caves_of_the_Basilisk.cfg
20100415 20:05:18< jacob_> Ok, thank you
20100415 20:05:54< jacob_> And soon the will be 0 bugs >:) ... or not so soon
20100415 20:07:17< shadowmaster> more realistically speaking, there'll always be at least 1 important bug and 10 unimportant ones/FRs
20100415 20:07:31< timotei> wesbot: FR ?
20100415 20:07:43< shadowm_laptop> feature request
20100415 20:08:12< jacob_> If we ever get through those FR I will be amazed :O
20100415 20:08:12< timotei> ok, thanks
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20100415 20:29:03< Crab_> orfest: I'm here
20100415 20:29:12< timotei> yey, Crab_ is online :D
20100415 20:29:38< orfest> hi, I'm here too :)
20100415 20:30:30< orfest> could you tell me what do you mean under customizable timeouts? :)
20100415 20:31:09< Crab_> just a command-line option to change their value, in all places where they apply
20100415 20:31:15< Crab_> and, do you have time at the moment ?
20100415 20:31:45< orfest> ok. yes, I have time
20100415 20:31:50< Crab_> we've wanted to chat with you a bit.
20100415 20:31:57< Crab_> please join #wesnoth-mentor
20100415 20:32:01< orfest> with a pleasure
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20100415 20:56:43< Bob_The_Mighty> Can i use 'filter_wml' to check $unit.side.controller = human/ai ?
20100415 21:07:08< timotei> I think I found a bug
20100415 21:07:58< timotei> shadowmaster, around?
20100415 21:12:01< timotei> Ivanovic, around?
20100415 21:12:12< Ivanovic> uhm, is there still someone maintaining the experimental theme ingame?
20100415 21:12:20< Ivanovic> or is this something that we should completely remove?
20100415 21:12:25< Ivanovic> cf https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15879
20100415 21:12:33< Ivanovic> timotei: could be, depends on the question
20100415 21:12:34< Ivanovic> ;)
20100415 21:12:50< timotei> you know, I'm working on starting wesnot from command line
20100415 21:12:54< timotei> the question is
20100415 21:13:12< timotei> should I allow using: --campaign with a difficulty but WITHOUT any campaign specified from command line?
20100415 21:13:28< timotei> --campaign1
20100415 21:13:31< timotei> --campaign1 LOW
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20100415 21:13:51< timotei> if we use the first one, you get the select campaign dialog, but the difficulty is the one specified in command line
20100415 21:14:29< Ivanovic> to be honest: this does not make much sense to me
20100415 21:14:57< Ivanovic> since what if the campaign selected in the menu does not offer the difficulty level supplied?
20100415 21:16:00< timotei> well, if you input a wrong diff level, you get error, just like you told me
20100415 21:16:08< timotei> I'm returning an error, and write to the log
20100415 21:16:22< Ivanovic> sounds like some really strange case to me
20100415 21:16:43< Ivanovic> sure, if there is an error since "the campaign+difficulty level don't exist": fine and understandable
20100415 21:17:00< Ivanovic> but if the game pops up and you got to select something but end in the terminal afterwards anyway
20100415 21:17:03< Ivanovic> this sounds wrong to me
20100415 21:18:04< timotei> ok
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20100415 21:25:01< Soliton> Ivanovic: terrain stuff getting cut off is pretty similar in all themes i thought. at least in small resolutions.
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20100415 21:25:39< Soliton> and no we don't have anyone dedicated caring for the non-default themes but if something is really wrong with them i might look at it.
20100415 21:25:40< Ivanovic> Soliton: but it is probably worse in the experimental version since normally you got some more latters available
20100415 21:26:14< Ivanovic> (as in: it is placed above the mini map where a little more space is available than in the right pane, not too much though)
20100415 21:26:28< Ivanovic> but yes, long things are cut off
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20100415 21:27:42< Soliton> if there needs to be response to that report i think it's "no one cares; post a patch if you want it fixed" :-P
20100415 21:28:11< Ivanovic> sounds fine to me
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20100415 21:31:11< gabba> hi
20100415 21:31:16< timotei> hello gabba
20100415 21:31:23< gabba> hello timotei
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20100415 21:37:32< timotei> seen YogiHH
20100415 21:37:38< timotei> wesbot: seen YogiHH
20100415 21:37:38< wesbot> timotei: The person with the nick YogiHH last spoke 1d ago. 23h 12m ago person left:
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20100415 23:03:18< YogiHH> hello
20100415 23:03:35< Crab_> hi, YogiHH
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20100415 23:19:09< boucman> hey all
20100415 23:19:17< pokhbocee> hey
20100415 23:19:19< Espreon> Hello boucman.
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20100415 23:21:18< fendrin> hi YogiHH
20100415 23:21:59< fendrin> YogiHH: What is our policy for granting svn commit access for the experimental fork? Are we going like mainline? Two medium sized patches and you are in?
20100415 23:22:19< boucman> fendrin: so you didn't go with git ,
20100415 23:22:21< boucman> ?
20100415 23:22:38< fendrin> boucman: No, not yet.
20100415 23:23:20< fendrin> boucman: We have chosen gna because of the familiarity and we can import the wesnoth project stuff if needed.
20100415 23:23:38< fendrin> Maybe that was a mistake...
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20100415 23:24:21< YogiHH> fendrin: I don't have such a policy but i think the two-patch thing is ok
20100415 23:24:31< boucman> fendrin: well, merging back and forth with trunk would be much easier with git, and I guess folowing trunk will be quite an undertaking by itself...
20100415 23:24:46< fendrin> YogiHH: Okay, cool.
20100415 23:25:11< fendrin> boucman: Can't that merging be done by git-svn?
20100415 23:25:36< YogiHH> fendrin: so i need to drop your access now until you wrote the two patches ;-P
20100415 23:26:16< fendrin> YogiHH: No problem, I can bomb you with patches ;-)
20100415 23:26:42< YogiHH> ;-)
20100415 23:28:08< YogiHH> fendrin: Don't know if you've seen it, i added an example for a feature request to the forum
20100415 23:28:25< icelus> boucman, by the way i didn't die I am still planning to send a revised storyscreen patch
20100415 23:28:38< fendrin> YogiHH: Yes, seen it. I thing you are doing well with the sticky threads, very well.
20100415 23:28:55< icelus> boucman, i re-read your comments and decided to do a < fendrin: i'm not sure how good git-svn is...
20100415 23:29:04< YogiHH> yeah, let's hope people read them :P
20100415 23:29:30< boucman> icelus: i'll go back at comitting patch tomorow afternoon or sunday, but yes, it'd be cool to have your patch :)
20100415 23:31:35< YogiHH> good night everyone
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20100415 23:39:44< Ivanovic> boucman, Crab_, fendrin, mordante, noy: you should have a mail from me, please make sure to reply!
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20100415 23:41:25< Crab_> Ivanovic: it was sent from your @gmx.net email ?
20100415 23:41:31< Ivanovic> yes
20100415 23:41:44< Ivanovic> sent it right when posting the line
20100415 23:42:18< CIA-32> ivanovic * r42136 /branches/1.8/po/ (wesnoth/sk.po wesnoth-anl/sk.po wesnoth-lib/sk.po): updated Slovak translation
20100415 23:42:19< CIA-32> ivanovic * r42137 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/sk.po wesnoth-anl/sk.po wesnoth-lib/sk.po): updated Slovak translation
20100415 23:43:06< Ivanovic> Crab_: sent your mail to terraninfo@terraninfo.net
20100415 23:43:19< Crab_> ok, it looks like I've found it
20100415 23:43:24< Ivanovic> argh, damn, wrong chan, wanted to paste this in the private chan...
20100415 23:43:36< Crab_> np. it's easily found in google, anyway
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20100415 23:50:52< Crab_> Ivanovic: replied
20100415 23:51:02< Ivanovic> okay
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20100415 23:55:38< Crab_> hi, billynux
20100415 23:55:42< billynux> hi Crab_
20100415 23:58:41< Crab_> do you have some free time at the moment ?
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