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20100423 00:11:12< Jetrel> could someone provide me with the command to checkout a copy of the 1.8 branch?
20100423 00:11:23< Jetrel> writeable, of course
20100423 00:12:45< CIA-10> jetryl * r42210 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/images/portraits/ (dulcatulos.png elurin.png karrag.png): Updated THoT with the latest batch of portraits.
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20100423 00:13:02< Espreon> svn co svn+ssh://jetryl@svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/branches/1.8 should work
20100423 00:19:45< Espreon> Jetrel: ^
20100423 00:20:16< Jetrel> Espreon:  and I provide a parameter after it to name the directory?
20100423 00:20:25< Espreon> Yeah.
20100423 00:21:03< Jetrel> Groovy.
20100423 00:21:08< Jetrel> Thanks.
20100423 00:21:25< Espreon> You are welcome.
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20100423 00:34:29< fakedrake> hi all
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20100423 01:24:52< Hethrir> Hello
20100423 01:25:23< Hethrir> loonycyborg: Does scons work with python 3.1?
20100423 01:25:44< loonycyborg> No. It requires 2.x
20100423 01:26:33< Hethrir> Ok, thank you
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20100423 03:19:02< CIA-10> jetryl * r42211 /trunk/data/core/ (14 files in 2 dirs): New base frame and animations for the highwayman.
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20100423 03:51:13< CIA-10> eleazar * r42212 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/ (fog2.png fog3.png): added 2 alternate bases for the fog. fog seems to be wired in specially to the terrain.cfg, i couldn't get them to display for testing.
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20100423 03:58:12< CIA-10> espreon * r42213 /trunk/data/core/images/units/human-outlaws/ (11 files): 
20100423 03:58:12< CIA-10> Ran wesnoth-optipng:
20100423 03:58:12< CIA-10> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20100423 03:58:12< CIA-10> Original size: 23 KiB on 11 files
20100423 03:58:12< CIA-10> Optimized size: 14 KiB
20100423 03:58:13< CIA-10> Total saving: 9 KiB = 38% decrease
20100423 03:58:30< CIA-10> espreon * r42214 /trunk/data/core/images/units/human-outlaws/ (10 files): Ran umcpropfix.
20100423 04:01:05< CIA-10> espreon * r42215 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/ (48 files in 2 dirs): Ran umcpropfix.
20100423 04:04:27< CIA-10> espreon * r42216 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/castle/sand/ (44 files): 
20100423 04:04:27< CIA-10> Ran wesnoth-optipng:
20100423 04:04:27< CIA-10> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20100423 04:04:27< CIA-10> Original size: 238 KiB on 44 files
20100423 04:04:27< CIA-10> Optimized size: 222 KiB
20100423 04:04:28< CIA-10> Total saving: 16 KiB = 6% decrease
20100423 04:09:34< CIA-10> espreon * r42217 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/village/ (desert.png desert2.png desert3.png desert4.png): 
20100423 04:09:34< CIA-10> Ran wesnoth-optipng:
20100423 04:09:34< CIA-10> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20100423 04:09:34< CIA-10> Original size: 31 KiB on 4 files
20100423 04:09:34< CIA-10> Optimized size: 28 KiB
20100423 04:09:35< CIA-10> Total saving: 2 KiB = 7% decrease
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20100423 04:11:54< Espreon> Meh, I probably should have just ran them on data/
20100423 04:12:47< CIA-10> espreon * r42218 /trunk/data/ (32 files in 6 dirs): Ran umcpropfix.
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20100423 04:17:29< CIA-10> espreon * r42219 /trunk/data/core/images/attacks/ (claws-fire-elemental.png fire-blast.png): 
20100423 04:17:29< CIA-10> Ran wesnoth-optipng:
20100423 04:17:29< CIA-10> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20100423 04:17:29< CIA-10> Original size: 12 KiB on 2 files
20100423 04:17:29< CIA-10> Optimized size: 10 KiB
20100423 04:17:30< CIA-10> Total saving: 1 KiB = 13% decrease
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20100423 04:24:07< CIA-10> espreon * r42220 /trunk/data/core/images/halo/darkens-aura.png: 
20100423 04:24:07< CIA-10> Ran wesnoth-optipng:
20100423 04:24:07< CIA-10> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20100423 04:24:07< CIA-10> Original size: 48 KiB on 1 files
20100423 04:24:07< CIA-10> Optimized size: 42 KiB
20100423 04:24:08< CIA-10> Total saving: 6 KiB = 13% decrease
20100423 04:26:36< CIA-10> espreon * r42221 /trunk/data/core/images/units/human-peasants/ (14 files): 
20100423 04:26:36< CIA-10> Ran wesnoth-optipng:
20100423 04:26:36< CIA-10> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20100423 04:26:36< CIA-10> Original size: 31 KiB on 14 files
20100423 04:26:36< CIA-10> Optimized size: 20 KiB
20100423 04:26:37< CIA-10> Total saving: 10 KiB = 33% decrease
20100423 04:27:08< Gambit> What's it doing?
20100423 04:27:53< Espreon> Hwæt's hwæt doing?
20100423 04:28:02< Gambit> CIA-10.
20100423 04:28:11< Espreon> ...
20100423 04:28:23< Espreon> Hwæt do you think it is doing?
20100423 04:28:32< Gambit> Comparing old and new file sizes?
20100423 04:28:43< Espreon> No, it is informing us of commits.
20100423 04:29:13< Espreon> I just happen to be including statistics in my commit messages.
20100423 04:30:30< CIA-10> espreon * r42222 /trunk/images/misc/tod-dark.png: Ran umcpropfix.
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20100423 06:22:27< Catoptromancy> http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1896/65259837.jpg
20100423 06:22:32< Catoptromancy> = ( win2000
20100423 06:22:54< ancestral> There is a bug out on that
20100423 06:22:57< Catoptromancy> cool
20100423 06:23:01< Catoptromancy> = )
20100423 06:23:41< Catoptromancy> hope it makes bar less jittery
20100423 06:24:06< Catoptromancy> like wack-a-mole game trying to click on right room
20100423 06:24:06< Catoptromancy> heh
20100423 06:29:37< ancestral> Catoptromancy: If you filter by clicking on "available" box
20100423 06:30:08< ancestral> "Show only open games" — something like that
20100423 06:30:12< ancestral> that will help
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20100423 07:11:58< CIA-10> silene * r42223 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Sullas_Ruins.cfg: Removed old markup from statue names. (Fix for bug #15932.)
20100423 07:12:59< CIA-10> silene * r42224 /branches/1.8/data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Sullas_Ruins.cfg: 
20100423 07:12:59< CIA-10> Removed old markup from statue names. (Fix for bug #15932.)
20100423 07:12:59< CIA-10> Backported from trunk r42223. No string change.
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20100423 08:30:40< freim> zookeeper: do you know why the editor no longer draws terrain properly?
20100423 08:35:01< zookeeper> freim, what do you mean? i haven't noticed anything like that
20100423 08:35:46< freim> zookeeper: it doesn't draw transitions, it doesn't draw multihex-tiles, but clips them, it doesn't draw variations of tiles
20100423 08:36:04< freim> this makes it pretty useless for testing terrain art
20100423 08:36:45< zookeeper> uh, no idea about that. trunk or 1.8?
20100423 08:37:23< zookeeper> or wait, there's some option in the drop-down menus to delay drawing of some stuff, maybe you have it on
20100423 08:37:44< freim> trunk
20100423 08:38:17< freim> oh
20100423 08:38:37< freim> I have to click update terrain transitions now...
20100423 08:38:39< freim> weird
20100423 08:38:53< zookeeper> no, you must be having the delay option on
20100423 08:38:57< zookeeper> i don't remember what it's called
20100423 08:39:00< freim> right, found it
20100423 08:39:24< zookeeper> works ok now?
20100423 08:39:39< freim> partial was the one I wanted
20100423 08:39:42< freim> yeah, works now
20100423 08:39:44< freim> thanks
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20100423 08:40:01< zookeeper> great
20100423 08:42:08< freim> zookeeper: I would argue that a better default would be "partial update"
20100423 08:42:23< freim> since it then would behave as before and not seem completely broken :)
20100423 08:44:00< zookeeper> i think it should be off by default...
20100423 08:45:29< freim> why?
20100423 08:45:53< freim> that's a bad default, since it makes the editor seem broken to new users and to users used to the old behaviour
20100423 08:46:03< zookeeper> ah, looks like i haven't seen that option before
20100423 08:46:11< zookeeper> i guess someone must have updated it at some point
20100423 08:46:27< zookeeper> so, what i meant is that it should be "yes" by default
20100423 08:46:42< zookeeper> but whatever, i don't have time to see how it works, so nevermind
20100423 08:46:48< zookeeper> ->
20100423 08:47:33< freim> who has been working on the editor lately?
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20100423 09:04:13< Soliton> ilor
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20100423 10:00:03< Ivanovic> moin
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20100423 10:38:09< fendrin> zookeeper: Are you around?
20100423 10:43:22< zookeeper> fendrin, sure
20100423 10:43:58< fendrin> zookeeper: Can you prepare an mod to upload to the 1.9 addon server? I would like to have a test case.
20100423 10:46:59< fendrin> zookeeper: It can be held very small. For example it could load just mainlines _main.cfg and add some more units.
20100423 10:47:00< zookeeper> well, not really now or until tonight
20100423 10:47:52< fendrin> zookeeper: That is early enough. The code for uploading it is in place, I still need some work on the gui.
20100423 10:49:02< zookeeper> if you only need something that small, then simply have a _main.cfg which includes the mainline _main.cfg and then add a [+units] with whatever extra units you bundle with the mod?
20100423 10:51:20< fendrin> zookeeper: Sounds good.
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20100423 11:33:44< Ivanovic> uhm, this one sounds interesting: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=29705&start=0
20100423 11:34:01< Ivanovic> who has done the work on the dependencies stuff for addons?
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20100423 11:42:13< fendrin> esr: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=29660
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20100423 12:55:34< Rhonda> Anyone on ubuntu here, potential even lucid?
20100423 13:00:11< Rhonda> It was asked for wether someone could test my 1.8 packages so they have some confidence that they work on ubuntu too, not only debian. :)
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20100423 13:29:21< Ivanovic> Rhonda: you could ask in the forums
20100423 13:29:36< Ivanovic> i think there are some lucid users in the forums looking for 1.8 binaries
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20100423 14:13:25< ilor> hi all
20100423 14:14:20< freim> hi ilor. If I have some feature requests for the editor, would you be the right person to assign?
20100423 14:14:53< ilor> freim: I can defintely be the right person to tell you if they're doable ;)
20100423 14:15:11< ilor> freim: fendrin is doing some work in the editor area, too
20100423 14:15:14< freim> ilor: it's just some small annoyances really
20100423 14:15:39< Ivanovic> hi ilor
20100423 14:15:44< freim> ilor: 1. I would request "partial" updates to be default instead of none
20100423 14:15:53< freim> ilor: for getting transitions, variations etc drawn
20100423 14:15:59< Ivanovic> freim: i'd recommend talking to ilor about them *and* then submitting a feature request in the tracker so that it is not lost
20100423 14:16:19< ilor> freim: isn't that preference saved?
20100423 14:16:20< freim> ilor: the current behaviour makes the editor seem broken to new users and to users used to the old behavior
20100423 14:16:31< freim> ilor: I'm talking about defaults
20100423 14:16:41< ilor> huh, "none" is the default? you sure?
20100423 14:16:54< freim> it was for me when compiling trunk at least
20100423 14:17:10< freim> I thought the editor was broken until zookeeper tipped me off about the setting :)
20100423 14:17:42< ilor> fendrin: in the code partial is the default setting 
20100423 14:18:04< freim> 2. don't use special case tiles as the default in the palette (example: the desert uses the desert tile with the plant as default)
20100423 14:18:31< freim> this together with "none" is especially weird as it seems you can't draw normal desert, just desert with a plant
20100423 14:18:32< ilor> argh,reim:
20100423 14:18:54< freim> hmm, I got none as default
20100423 14:19:02< ilor> freim: this default thing migh be a bug
20100423 14:19:38< freim> I ran it directly from the trunk dir, could that have anything to do with it?
20100423 14:20:13< ilor> nah
20100423 14:20:58< Ivanovic> freim: are you sure that you had no preferences left?
20100423 14:21:14< freim> I believe it said something about creating a new config when I ran it
20100423 14:21:28< freim> I didn't have a .wesnoth before I ran it
20100423 14:21:47< ilor> when I delete the userdata dir I get partial as the default
20100423 14:22:03< ilor> this is with a slightly stale trunk but I believe there were no changes there anyway
20100423 14:24:51< freim> hmm, strange
20100423 14:25:08< freim> I can delete my userdata dir and test again when I get home
20100423 14:28:54< ilor> make sure you are deleting the right userdata dir
20100423 14:29:45< freim> has it changed?
20100423 14:29:48< ilor> when building by yourself it might use userdata/ under where you have the executable
20100423 14:29:58< freim> ok
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20100423 14:50:23< stikonas> Ivanovic: Hi, have you seen my comment about switching language for images?
20100423 14:50:42< Ivanovic> yeah
20100423 14:50:51< Ivanovic> better leave the comment in the bug report than in irc though
20100423 14:50:53< Ivanovic> ;)
20100423 14:51:25< Ivanovic> ilor: freim is on linux
20100423 14:51:31< loonycyborg> freim: It prints userdata directory it uses to stderr if you want to be sure.
20100423 14:51:34< Ivanovic> ilor: there userdata is normally in $HOME
20100423 14:52:50< freim> it's still .wesnoth on linux right?
20100423 14:53:01< loonycyborg> By default yes.
20100423 14:53:56< Ivanovic> .wesnothVERSION
20100423 14:54:21< Ivanovic> yes, by default the version number is now in the folder name (though it is 1.9 or the likes only)
20100423 14:54:37< Ivanovic> and this is only unless you specified some explicit name
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20100423 15:27:45< norbert_> hi, can I search in bug reports that are closed?
20100423 15:28:08< Soliton> sure.
20100423 15:28:24< norbert_> or is that done automatically?
20100423 15:29:06< Soliton> default is to filter for open reports.
20100423 15:30:22< norbert_> I think the opposite
20100423 15:30:34< norbert_> on https://gna.org/bugs/?func=search&group=wesnoth at least
20100423 15:30:42< norbert_> anyways, I found what I was looking for :)
20100423 15:32:33< Soliton> it saves your options so that might have confused you.
20100423 15:33:23< norbert_> oh okay, thanks
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20100423 15:36:09< Hethrir> Hello
20100423 15:36:19< Crab_> hi, Hethrir
20100423 15:36:36< Hethrir> I have a question about SVN
20100423 15:37:27< Hethrir> Is 1.8.x on svn?
20100423 15:37:56< Ivanovic> yes
20100423 15:38:01< Ivanovic> branches/1.8 instead of trunk
20100423 15:38:10< Hethrir> The reason I ask, is because this page only says 1.6 + 1.7: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothSVN#Browse_the_code
20100423 15:38:14< Ivanovic> svn.wesnoth.org has the info about how to check out things
20100423 15:38:24< Ivanovic> yes, the page is outdated, feel free to update it
20100423 15:38:40< Hethrir> Ok
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20100423 15:43:20< Hethrir> So 1.8 is in the trunk and 1.7 is the stable branch?
20100423 15:43:47< Crab_> Hethrir: 1.8 is the new stable, and trunk will be released as 1.9.
20100423 15:44:41< Hethrir> Ok updating pages
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20100423 15:51:53< boucman> hey all
20100423 15:52:49< Crab_> hi, Bocom
20100423 15:52:51< Crab_> oops :)
20100423 15:52:53< Crab_> hi, boucman
20100423 15:52:59< boucman> :)
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20100423 15:53:45< Bocom> wah, accidental highlights are fun
20100423 15:55:48< freim> boucman: how much is missing before we can include the new water?
20100423 15:56:40< boucman> freim: if you checkout the old animation branch, all I have is comitted there.... 
20100423 15:57:04< boucman> basically we have the mane tile for water (which could be recolored to do both deep and shallow)
20100423 15:57:46< CIA-10> ilor * r42226 /branches/1.8/ (6 files in 2 dirs): add a preference for the new lobby (default to off), and a checkbox for setting it in the preferences dialog
20100423 15:57:47< CIA-10> ilor * r42225 /branches/1.8/ (14 files in 3 dirs): old lobby revival in 1.8, part 1: apply silene's patch (with different changelog message and with an indent fix)
20100423 15:57:48< boucman> we have beaches and wavefront for north north-east and north-west... they could probably be mirrored to do the south parts, but we would still be missing a few
20100423 15:57:59< ilor> Ivanovic: ^
20100423 15:58:11< boucman> so we could do all "smooth" transitions
20100423 15:58:24< Ivanovic> ilor: what have you placed the option, multiplayer prefs or advanced?
20100423 15:58:30< ilor> Ivanovic: MP
20100423 15:58:41< Ivanovic> good
20100423 15:58:44< boucman> rhyging5 posted some mockups of cliff like transitions, but I have no knowledge of artistic tools, so I can't extract anything usefull from them
20100423 15:58:54< ilor> a checkbox under the show lobby joins prefs
20100423 15:59:01< boucman> eleazar has returned, so hopefully he and I can get thigs moving again...
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20100423 16:03:37< Soliton> does it make sense to pass a 64 bit integer by const reference instead of by value?
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20100423 16:04:05< ilor> probably not
20100423 16:04:34< Soliton> i think so, too.
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20100423 16:12:36< Ivanovic> _jbx_: uhm, should you not join #wesnoth-lobbydev, too? (since you are one of the mp people)
20100423 16:13:33< _jbx_> Ivanovic: not when I'm at work!  there are too many temptations to distract me from my job there :)
20100423 16:13:52< Ivanovic> uhm, the lobbydev chan is rather quiet most of the time
20100423 16:14:02< ilor> _jbx_: in short, old lobby is back in 1.8
20100423 16:14:07< Ivanovic> since it is just dedicated to improve the new lobby that was introduced during SoC
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20100423 16:57:10< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20100423 17:20:20< CIA-10> boucman * r42227 /trunk/ (changelog src/game_events.cpp src/sound.cpp src/sound.hpp): allow changing of music volume through WML, slightly modified from patch #1640 by lfernando
20100423 17:22:49< Soliton> could have waited for him to update the patch?
20100423 17:23:18< Soliton> does that still have absolute volume changing?
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20100423 17:35:44< boucman> yes, it has both, is it aproblem ?
20100423 17:35:50< Soliton> looks like it does and it certainly isn't needed for muting so i don't see the point.
20100423 17:36:24< Soliton> i can't think of any reason why you'd want absolute volume changes.
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20100423 17:37:53< boucman> Soliton: he's pretty active on irc, discuss it a bit and once he agrees, just remove it
20100423 17:39:25< Soliton> i already made another comment at the patch tracker.
20100423 17:39:56 * Soliton goes home.
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20100423 17:41:19< boucman> k
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20100423 17:45:32< ilor> I'm off, bye
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20100423 18:03:49< boucman> wesbot: seen gabba
20100423 18:03:50< wesbot> boucman: The person with the nick gabba last spoke 1d ago.  23h 59m ago person left:
20100423 18:05:04< CIA-10> boucman * r42228 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): hack in a way to have multiple fog tiles.
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20100423 18:23:47< billynux> hey... anyone know a function on <algorithm> to find the first equal element in a given range of a sorted list?
20100423 18:24:10< billynux> equal_range does not expect sorted lists 
20100423 18:24:23< billynux> lower_bound does, but will return the first >= element
20100423 18:24:37< billynux> binary_search only returns bool, but not the iterator :(
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20100423 18:26:33< boucman> wouldn't lower_bound+ an equality test work ?
20100423 18:28:27< boucman> wesbot: seen icelus
20100423 18:28:28< wesbot> boucman: The person with the nick icelus last spoke 6d 18h ago.  6d 15h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message: Quit: Leaving
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20100423 18:51:12< Crab_> hi, pokhbocee
20100423 18:53:36< pokhbocee> hi Crab_
20100423 18:53:45< pokhbocee> how are you
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20100423 18:55:37< Crab_> good, thanks :) I've seen the patch, look good ( a few minor improvements may appear after I test it - which'll be later today, but looks good overall).
20100423 18:55:45< Crab_> ( https://gna.org/patch/?1577 )
20100423 18:55:57< pokhbocee> thats good :D
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20100423 18:59:54< Lastmerlin> hi
20100423 19:00:30< pokhbocee> hello
20100423 19:00:32< Lastmerlin> does jetrel use his common nick here as well (so he is absent) ?
20100423 19:00:38< Lastmerlin> dave is sirp, correct
20100423 19:00:42< Lastmerlin> ?
20100423 19:01:25< Crab_> Lastmerlin: yes, Dave is Sirp.
20100423 19:02:06< Lastmerlin> the point is, that I want to publish a game i have been working on for quite a while now
20100423 19:02:33< Crab_> Lastmerlin: jetrel was here today.
20100423 19:02:33< Lastmerlin> and try to get some contributors :)
20100423 19:03:13< Lastmerlin> As wesnoth is the best example I want to discuss with someone what infrastructure is needed and how to get things rolling
20100423 19:03:44< Lastmerlin> west suggested to ask Dave or even better jetrel :)
20100423 19:05:10< Lastmerlin> anyone here who is responsible for translation system ?
20100423 19:05:38< Lastmerlin> not the specific translations, but the structure behind it
20100423 19:11:23< boucman> we use gettext (standard translation library
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20100423 19:36:38< Hethrir> Hello
20100423 19:37:45< Crab_> hi, Hethrir
20100423 19:39:05< Hethrir> loonycyborg: What should I do if scons can't find libintl?
20100423 19:42:17< loonycyborg> Look in build/config.log?
20100423 19:43:02< Hethrir> I am right now
20100423 19:43:08< loonycyborg> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=422818#p422818
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20100423 19:48:37< loonycyborg> Hethrir: You could also pastebin it so I could know what exactly is happening there :P
20100423 19:48:49< loonycyborg> s/it/the log
20100423 19:48:51< Hethrir> That I will do
20100423 19:49:25< Hethrir> Although I am checking if I have to do C:\to\current\win-deps instead of win-deps\
20100423 19:50:21< Hethrir> Here it is: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/SMAbcMBF
20100423 19:50:59-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: GSoC: Thanks to all GSoC candidates for submitting proposals to Google. Accepted student applications announced on April 26. | 96 bugs, 273 feature requests, 19 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20100423 19:52:19< loonycyborg> Hethrir: Post it after running with --config=force. It doesn't seem to remember errors from test programs that are up-to-date.
20100423 19:54:35< Hethrir> loonycyborg: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/Lg18txhT
20100423 19:57:29< loonycyborg> Hethrir: It didn't change. Are you sure that there wasn't a typo in command/it's the right log?
20100423 19:58:07< Hethrir> Maybe I had the same file open
20100423 19:58:26< Hethrir> brb trying something else
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20100423 20:03:23< Sirp> Ivanovic, Soliton: okay OLM is going to schedule our RAM upgrade for 8:00PM EST today, the server will be offline for about 15 minutes
20100423 20:03:37< Sirp> we can ask them to push it back until later if there is any reason to do so, but otherwise I will tell them that slot is fine.
20100423 20:08:15< Hethrir> loonycyborg: does scons use backslashes or forward slashes?
20100423 20:08:43< loonycyborg> Theoretically both should work.
20100423 20:09:23< Hethrir> Also, after I ran config=force the error message looks different
20100423 20:10:44< loonycyborg> You mean in output or in build/config.log?
20100423 20:10:55< Hethrir> No, on the screen
20100423 20:11:54< loonycyborg> Anyway, pastebin them both..
20100423 20:12:00< Hethrir> Ok
20100423 20:15:31< Hethrir> loonycyborg: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/deZb0c9i
20100423 20:18:22< loonycyborg> Why are you passing them with '-'? It should be just prefix=
20100423 20:18:30< Hethrir> O.O
20100423 20:18:36< Hethrir> I just noticed something else
20100423 20:19:15< Hethrir> I have win/deps instead of win-deps
20100423 20:19:52< loonycyborg> On which platform are you?
20100423 20:19:58< Hethrir> MSYS
20100423 20:20:02< Hethrir> Windows XP
20100423 20:20:56< loonycyborg> Then you shouldn't use 'host=mingw32' it's for cross-compile.
20100423 20:21:04< Hethrir> Oh
20100423 20:21:22< Hethrir> Same error
20100423 20:21:23< loonycyborg> I run it from cmd.exe personally.
20100423 20:22:02< Hethrir> I unfortunately messed up dm.exe
20100423 20:22:06< Hethrir> *cmd
20100423 20:22:26< Hethrir> I changed the preferences to full screen, and now I can't get it out
20100423 20:23:16< loonycyborg> Edit the file .scons-option-cache and remove host=mingw32 from it. All name=value options are saved there.
20100423 20:24:29< Hethrir> So I don't have to type "win-deps" anymore?
20100423 20:25:09< loonycyborg> Yes. You can just edit the file instead of setting them from command line too.
20100423 20:25:21< Hethrir> Cool
20100423 20:26:20< loonycyborg> Could you try --config=force again? The log is still the same.
20100423 20:28:19< Hethrir> loonycyborg: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/tHeVv8Y9
20100423 20:28:30< Hethrir> It is also now 4kb instead of 5
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20100423 20:29:26< Hethrir> (config.log)
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20100423 20:30:20< Hethrir> It says "(cached)external" does that mean it linked?
20100423 20:30:56< loonycyborg> Yes.
20100423 20:31:07< loonycyborg> It's now matter of boost.
20100423 20:31:27< loonycyborg> Do you have it in win-deps\include ?
20100423 20:31:45< Hethrir> Not yet, moving there now
20100423 20:32:28< Hethrir> Ok copying over may take a while ...
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20100423 20:44:59< Hethrir> loonycyborg: It found boost, but now it can't find "gzip support in Boost Iostreams"
20100423 20:45:24< Hethrir> Is that separate?
20100423 20:45:26< loonycyborg> What's in config.log ?
20100423 20:45:35< loonycyborg> Did you compile boost yourself?
20100423 20:46:10< loonycyborg> A particular feature in boost.iostreams should be enabled for wesnoth to compile.
20100423 20:47:16< Hethrir> No, I just copied the files that were in the folder
20100423 20:47:29< Hethrir> That you posted, in the link to the forum
20100423 20:48:08< Hethrir> loonycyborg: pastebin is receiving too many pastes
20100423 20:49:17< loonycyborg> It seems to be down altogether..
20100423 20:50:01< Hethrir> So ...
20100423 20:50:06< Hethrir> What do we do now?
20100423 20:50:43< loonycyborg> pastebin is not the only such service..
20100423 20:51:06< Hethrir> Ok, checking
20100423 20:52:22< Hethrir> loonycyborg: here goes: http://pastebin.ws/o27sn
20100423 20:53:33< loonycyborg> Which gcc are you using?
20100423 20:53:49< loonycyborg> That is what is output of gcc --version?
20100423 20:54:12< Hethrir> 3.4.5
20100423 20:54:29< Hethrir> (mingw-vista special r3)
20100423 20:55:12< Hethrir> Is that not supported?
20100423 20:56:40< loonycyborg> Maybe it uses sjlj exceotion handling. There are libboost_foo-sjlj.a libs in the SDK. Try using them instead.
20100423 20:56:59< loonycyborg> *exception handling
20100423 20:58:14< Hethrir> Do you want me to chop off the .a?
20100423 20:58:25< loonycyborg> No. -sjlj
20100423 20:58:35< Hethrir> Ok
20100423 20:59:03< loonycyborg> So that libboost_foo-sjlj.a replaces libboost_foo.a
20100423 20:59:14< Hethrir> I know :p
20100423 21:00:02< Hethrir> Ok re-compiling
20100423 21:00:14< Hethrir> Nay :(
20100423 21:01:47< Hethrir> loonycyborg: same errors
20100423 21:02:10< loonycyborg> What's in build/config.log?
20100423 21:03:41< Hethrir> http://pastebin.ws/405imh
20100423 21:03:48< Hethrir> Though it doesn't look like it changed
20100423 21:04:28< loonycyborg> And after --config=force?
20100423 21:05:35< Hethrir> I chopped a kb
20100423 21:05:37< Hethrir> http://pastebin.ws/9njleo
20100423 21:06:40< Hethrir> *It
20100423 21:07:26< loonycyborg> Did you also copy SDL to win-deps?
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20100423 21:08:18< pokhbocee> Crab_: did u compile my prototype
20100423 21:08:48< Hethrir> loonycyborg: Yup
20100423 21:08:58< Hethrir> loonycyborg They're all there
20100423 21:09:57< Hethrir> loonycyborg: I am also using the file you posted in the forum(http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=422818#p422818) so I'm not sure if that's old or not
20100423 21:10:22< Soliton> Sirp: sounds good.
20100423 21:11:32< loonycyborg> Hethrir: Then try passing sdldir=path/to/windeps
20100423 21:11:33< Crab_> pokhbocee: yes, compiled
20100423 21:12:51< Hethrir> loonycyborg: The directory is the same as the one used, but ok
20100423 21:13:25< Hethrir> loonycyborg: I can even use the .scons-option-cache  :D
20100423 21:14:01< Hethrir> loonycyborg: huh it worked :D
20100423 21:14:39< Hethrir> loonycyborg: Well, now it has new errors
20100423 21:15:13< pokhbocee> Crab_: do you have any comments on it,
20100423 21:15:46< Hethrir> loonycyborg: Checking for Pango with cairo backend... 'pkg-config' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
20100423 21:16:08< Crab_> pokhbocee: no, but I will.
20100423 21:16:15< loonycyborg> Hethrir: use gtkdir= with same path
20100423 21:16:35< Hethrir> loonycyborg: Ok
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20100423 21:17:56< Hethrir> loonycyborg: Nope :(
20100423 21:18:09< Hethrir> loonycyborg: Log file?
20100423 21:18:15< loonycyborg> Yes.
20100423 21:18:47< Hethrir> http://pastebin.ws/21595j
20100423 21:18:54< pokhbocee> Crab_: ty
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20100423 21:20:23< mordante> servus
20100423 21:20:36< Hethrir> Hail, mordante
20100423 21:20:41< mordante> hi Hethrir 
20100423 21:20:52< Hethrir> Windows is evil :(
20100423 21:21:04< loonycyborg> Hethrir: Maybe you should try absolute path for gtkdir.
20100423 21:21:10< mordante> Ivanovic, you were looking for me?
20100423 21:21:16< Hethrir> From C:\?
20100423 21:21:38< loonycyborg> Yes.
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20100423 21:24:09< gabba> hi there
20100423 21:24:12< mordante> hi gabba 
20100423 21:24:15< Hethrir> loonycyborg:  Directory path for option gtkdir does not exist <insert abs. path> 
20100423 21:24:19< Hethrir> Hey gabba
20100423 21:24:22< gabba> hi mordante
20100423 21:24:32< gabba> hello Hethrir
20100423 21:24:44< mordante> AI0867, yes there are several ways to do things, but the slots are the way to go, the other ways are relics of the past, soon to be killed
20100423 21:24:58< gabba> boucman: you were looking for me?
20100423 21:25:13< boucman> gabba: yes but I don't remember why :P
20100423 21:25:20< loonycyborg> Hethrir: Maybe there's a typo in it.
20100423 21:25:26< Hethrir> loonycyborg: File <abs. path>, line46, in OptionalPath
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20100423 21:25:31< Hethrir> Hmm maybe
20100423 21:25:36< gabba> boucman: I can't help there ;)
20100423 21:26:20< Hethrir> loonycyborg: it would look something like this: gtkdir = 'C:\msys\1.0\home\Jacob\wesnoth\wesnoth-1.8\win-deps'
20100423 21:27:45< gabba> Last exams tomorrow! Afterwards I'm free to work on Wesnoth.
20100423 21:28:13< loonycyborg> Hethrir: Maybe you should try MSYS paths, such as /home/.. IIRC C: doesn't work from MSYS.
20100423 21:28:36< Hethrir> I had noticed it doesn't read C;\
20100423 21:28:49< CIA-10> wintermute * r42229 /branches/1.8/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Added the winner of the first Wesnoth map compitition, the 2 player map "Elensefar Courtyard" by krotop.
20100423 21:29:04< happygrue> Ivanovic: ^
20100423 21:30:13< fendrin> wesnot seen timotei21?
20100423 21:30:22< fendrin> wesbot:  seen timotei21?
20100423 21:30:23< wesbot> fendrin: Person, who 2d 7h ago used nick timotei21, last spoke 2d 7h ago.  2d 7h ago as timotei was here and on the channel #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Ping timeout: 260 seconds
20100423 21:30:48< Crab_> fendrin: afair, he said that he'd be away for a few days
20100423 21:30:56< fendrin> happygrue: You are also wintermute?
20100423 21:31:00< Hethrir> loonycyborg: http://pastebin.ws/d30acp don't know if that helps, changed it to '/home/' and it still has same error
20100423 21:31:59< loonycyborg> Hethrir: Looks like it's missing leading slash.
20100423 21:33:02< Hethrir> Nope :( http://pastebin.ws/d9j4d5
20100423 21:33:59< happygrue> fendrin: yes
20100423 21:34:10< happygrue> wintermute was taken on IRC, if you can imagine.  ;)
20100423 21:34:35< loonycyborg> Hethrir: What if you use forward slashes instead of backslashes?
20100423 21:35:33< Hethrir> loonycyborg: Same error different directions :(
20100423 21:37:28< loonycyborg> Hethrir: Does that path work in console? E.g. can you ls it?
20100423 21:38:19< Hethrir> loonycyborg: yup
20100423 21:39:30< loonycyborg> You can also try using a relative path there but add bin/ directory of the SDK(where pkg-config.exe is) to PATH.
20100423 21:40:18< Hethrir> loonycyborg: that would be a good idea :D
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20100423 21:43:15< Hethrir> loonycyborg: I changed the path back to the original, and it found it
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20100423 21:43:35< loonycyborg> Great! :)
20100423 21:43:39< Hethrir> (after giving PATH the SDK/bin)
20100423 21:43:51< Hethrir> :D
20100423 21:44:08< Hethrir> Did you include lua in you SDK?
20100423 21:44:36< loonycyborg> Yes.
20100423 21:44:45< Hethrir> >.<
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20100423 21:45:00< loonycyborg> Try luadir=
20100423 21:45:03< Hethrir> Now it can't find lua development files
20100423 21:45:09< Hethrir> Righto
20100423 21:45:36< Hethrir> Yay!
20100423 21:46:04< Hethrir> whoah
20100423 21:46:25< Hethrir> It just dumped all sorts of errors on my screen
20100423 21:46:50< loonycyborg> Paste them?
20100423 21:46:54< Hethrir> loonycyborg: What is fribibi?
20100423 21:47:09< loonycyborg> That one's optional.
20100423 21:47:30< Hethrir> Ok, I am copying up to the point where it started spewing
20100423 21:48:44< Hethrir> loonycyborg: http://pastebin.ws/cdqq86
20100423 21:49:31< loonycyborg> Hethrir: All of them are non-fatal.
20100423 21:49:47< Hethrir> Hmm maybe I should let it go further?
20100423 21:49:52< loonycyborg> Yes.
20100423 21:51:09< Hethrir> loonycyborg: I let it get a little further: http://pastebin.ws/1qiaz5
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20100423 21:51:38< Hethrir> It went on like that for a while
20100423 21:52:28< Hethrir> Unless that is normal, and it is compiling?
20100423 21:53:20< loonycyborg> That is why absolute paths were needed. relative paths are transformed in weird ways.
20100423 21:53:49< Hethrir> So, I should go back and absolute-ify them all?
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20100423 21:54:42< Greywhind> mordante: ping?
20100423 21:55:09< mordante> Greywhind, pong
20100423 21:55:36< Greywhind> mordante: so i was looking into the bug with disabled controls still receiving events
20100423 21:55:37< Hethrir> :D
20100423 21:55:48< Hethrir> :(
20100423 21:56:07< Hethrir> loonycyborg: again: http://pastebin.ws/3hfhu
20100423 21:56:07< loonycyborg> Hethrir: You can also try #/win-deps
20100423 21:56:36< Hethrir> It's empty
20100423 21:56:49< Hethrir> But if you're done helping for today I understand
20100423 21:56:59< Greywhind> mordante: it looks to me like the base widget class doesn't have any concept of "disabled," and the distributor can store any sort of widget and send it events
20100423 21:57:30< mordante> Greywhind, hmm let me have a look
20100423 21:58:07< loonycyborg> Hethrir: You can disable that validation of paths at SConstruct line 45, make that function return True.
20100423 21:58:31< Greywhind> mordante: std::vector<twidget*> keyboard_focus_chain_;
20100423 21:59:16< loonycyborg> Or use cmd.exe. It works with absolute paths without problems for me.
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20100423 21:59:42< mordante> Greywhind, the twidget class doesn't have it, but the tcontrol class does and the visible widgets derive from that class
20100423 22:00:32< Hethrir> loonycyborg: trying cmd.exe
20100423 22:00:39< happygrue> zookeeper: found a bug in 1.9.0 regarding the cave wall terrian covering up most of a great tree.  Is that the sort of thing I should assign to you?
20100423 22:00:50< mordante> Greywhind, but for your part it might be needed to add something to the twidget as well
20100423 22:00:59< Greywhind> mordante: right... but are all widgets managed by distributor.cpp guaranteed to extend control?
20100423 22:01:24< Greywhind> because if not, i can't just cast and check if they're disabled
20100423 22:01:50< mordante> Greywhind, no they're not guaranteed
20100423 22:01:54< mordante> to have it
20100423 22:02:35< Greywhind> mordante: in that case, would the best solution be to add a "get_active()" that always returns true to twidget?
20100423 22:03:09< Hethrir> gah :(
20100423 22:03:18< Greywhind> and then check get_active() in distributor, which would be correct for the subclasses that override it?
20100423 22:03:18< mordante> Greywhind, it might be the best solution, the other option is try to cast it to control and test the flag then
20100423 22:03:28< mordante> Greywhind, which is done for mouse_leave
20100423 22:04:12< Greywhind> mordante: which is better, do you think?
20100423 22:04:29< mordante> I think it's easier to do the mouse_leave
20100423 22:04:43< Greywhind> mordante: ok. i'll do it that way, then.
20100423 22:05:16< mordante> the other option needs more rewriting of the twidget class since in that case the get_active should be tested in the twidget class instead of tcontrol
20100423 22:05:35< Greywhind> mordante: right
20100423 22:06:08< mordante> not that dynamic casting is the most elegant solution, but it's the easiest for now
20100423 22:06:23< Greywhind> mordante: right
20100423 22:06:50< zookeeper> happygrue, boucman might be a better person for that nowadays
20100423 22:07:01< happygrue> zookeeper: ah, ok
20100423 22:07:21< happygrue> boucman: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?15940
20100423 22:07:36 * boucman clicks
20100423 22:08:09< boucman> happygrue: ok, assigned to myself, I will probably look at it tomorow
20100423 22:08:17< happygrue> ok
20100423 22:08:21< Hethrir> How do you do block comments in python?
20100423 22:08:41< loonycyborg> Hethrir: # ?
20100423 22:09:09< Hethrir> No like /* */ in c++
20100423 22:09:27< Greywhind> pretty sure it's just a # on every line
20100423 22:09:34< Hethrir> :(
20100423 22:09:56< Greywhind> yeah, there's no block comments in Python
20100423 22:11:14< Ivanovic> re
20100423 22:11:26< Ivanovic> mordante: yeah, wanted to ask about the mp lobby, which is done now
20100423 22:11:57< Hethrir> I'll finish tommorow :(
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20100423 22:12:26< Bocom> you could do """ lots of code """
20100423 22:12:42< mordante> Ivanovic, ok
20100423 22:12:52< Bocom> argh, he disconnected
20100423 22:12:55< Bocom> oh well
20100423 22:13:04< Greywhind> oh, wait... that does exist, doesn't it
20100423 22:13:37< Greywhind> forgot about that
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20100423 22:16:49< Ivanovic> everyone: please do make sure that all strings that you want to have in 1.8.1 are there
20100423 22:16:56< Ivanovic> i will run a pot update "soon"
20100423 22:17:14< Ivanovic> so check that eg the description and name for the new map are correct as well as all the strings that got in due to reviving the old lobby
20100423 22:18:00< CIA-10> mordante * r42230 /trunk/src/game.cpp: Strip trailing whitespace.
20100423 22:18:13< Ivanovic> that is: do you really want the filter box named "Search:"?
20100423 22:18:26< Ivanovic> or would you prefer "Filter:" in there?
20100423 22:19:53< Ivanovic> and is "Only show games whose title or description contain the entered text" what you want as mouse over description?
20100423 22:21:15< Ivanovic> so somebody please test that *all* strings of the old lobby are the way they are meant to be
20100423 22:21:21< Ivanovic> esr: could you have a quick look?
20100423 22:22:52< CIA-10> wintermute * r42231 /branches/1.8/data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Elensefar_Courtyard.cfg: minor edit to map description.
20100423 22:24:08< Ivanovic> happygrue: since you are mp dev: could you fire up the (old) mp lobby in 1.8 and check that the strings displayed are really fine and correct?
20100423 22:25:28< happygrue> Ivanovic: I'm not setup to compile
20100423 22:25:55< happygrue> I have the patch BEFORE the update to give it an option that ilor just made
20100423 22:26:09< happygrue> I could test that right now, or if I can get a binary from somewhere then sure
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20100423 22:28:11< esr> Ivanovic: Sorry, what am I supposed to be looking for?
20100423 22:30:42< happygrue> esr: strings related to the old lobby option in the 1.8 branch, are they up to date/ make any sense/typos
20100423 22:31:24< happygrue> esr: as in the tooltip help specifically I think
20100423 22:31:58< esr> Don't ask me.  I know very little about MP or the lobby; I wouldn't *know* if they were out of date.
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20100423 22:35:53< mordante> I'm off night
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20100423 23:04:39< Ivanovic> esr: all you should do is compile branches/1.8, join the mp server and look if all strings you see are "right"
20100423 23:04:46< Ivanovic> like all mouse over things you find
20100423 23:05:18< esr> Err.....OK.
20100423 23:05:21< Ivanovic> esr: eg is this tooltip for the filter box okay or should it be changed?
20100423 23:05:24< Ivanovic> "Only show games whose title or description contain the entered text"
20100423 23:06:51< fendrin> esr: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=29660
20100423 23:08:07< CIA-10> wintermute * r42232 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Elensefar_Courtyard.cfg: minor edit to map description.
20100423 23:09:35< fendrin> happygrue: Do you also commit the 4p fallen star lake map?
20100423 23:10:03< esr> fendrin: Would you look at it, please?  You can usually fix that sort of minor WML glitch faster than I can.
20100423 23:10:08< happygrue> fendrin: no, I haven't.
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20100423 23:10:45< happygrue> fendrin: was there a plan to do so?
20100423 23:11:38< CIA-10> ivanovic * r42233 /branches/1.8/src/ (game_preferences_display.cpp multiplayer_lobby.cpp): 
20100423 23:11:38< CIA-10> two string changes:
20100423 23:11:38< CIA-10> 1) use "Filter:" instead of "Search" in the old lobby
20100423 23:11:38< CIA-10> 2) allow the mouse over for the preferences entry to use the new lobby be translated differently than the entry itself
20100423 23:11:45< Ivanovic> okay, adjusted two strings
20100423 23:12:17< Ivanovic> okay, taking a shower now, will run a pot-update once i am back
20100423 23:12:58< Ivanovic> esr: in general it should be enough is you compiled the latest branches/1.8, joined the mp server and had a look at the strings shown you in the game interface, move the mouse around a little and check if you see any "bad english strings"
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20100423 23:25:36< fakedrake> hi all
20100423 23:31:04< YogiHH> Sirp, you there?
20100423 23:31:17< Sirp> YogiHH: yes, what's up?
20100423 23:32:00< YogiHH> Sirp: Do you know if we have two instances of the RNG within wesnoth (one for the game, one for replays) or if it is only one or even more than two?
20100423 23:33:29< Sirp> YogiHH: I'm not sure how it's done these days
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20100423 23:34:33< YogiHH> Sirp: ok, then i will try to find out myself :)
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20100423 23:41:56< Ivanovic> okay, since everybody seems to be fine with the strings (especially those added back due to the old lobby), i will run a pot-update now
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20100423 23:48:41< Sirp> YogiHH: so are you going to try to make 3D Wesnoth? ;)
20100423 23:49:09< YogiHH> Sirp: I am still looking for someone else to give it to ;-P
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20100423 23:51:29< CIA-10> ivanovic * r42234 /branches/1.8/po/ (284 files in 23 dirs): 
20100423 23:51:29< CIA-10> pot-update (many string changes: re-add the old lobby and add a new multiplayer scenario, strings added in wesnoth, wesnoth-lib and wesnoth-multiplayer)
20100423 23:51:29< CIA-10> regenerated doc files (no changes here)
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