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20100420 20:25:39< happygrue> Ivanovic: so 1.8.1 will go forward without a fix/patch/reversion to the lobby issue?
20100420 20:26:14< happygrue> I was confused about the map issue because I didn't see the stringfreeze and I hadn't assumed 1.8.1 so soon without addressing that issue.
20100420 20:27:34< happygrue> I apologize for always dropping things that I want to change in after the deadline.  It has never been a strength of mine in any of my endeavours. ;)
20100420 20:27:55< Crab_> happygrue: well, at least some kind of hack to make lobby 'more usable' should be definitely possible.
20100420 20:28:22< happygrue> well that is good news.
20100420 20:29:09< Crab_> at least with 'gsoc application period' mostly over, there'll be more free time for gsoc mentors to actually do coding instead of working with students.
20100420 20:30:07< happygrue> hehe
20100420 20:30:20< happygrue> Crab_: I am surpised with your patience :)
20100420 20:30:25< happygrue> so many questions.
20100420 20:31:04< Crab_> happygrue: well, I was a gsoc student last year, so I know the importance of having questions answered :)
20100420 20:31:15< happygrue> this is true!
20100420 20:31:24< happygrue> and I try to answer those few questions that I can
20100420 20:31:30< happygrue> but they all want a piece of you.  ;)
20100420 20:31:44< Crab_> hehe, happens :)
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20100420 22:09:17< Ivanovic> ilor: you might have seen that mordante wanted to talk to you before deciding regarding the new lobby and what to do before 1.8.1
20100420 22:10:17< ilor> Ivanovic: yeah, on it now
20100420 22:10:24< Ivanovic> good
20100420 22:10:42< ilor> in general, I believe we should allow the old lobby as an option
20100420 22:10:54< Ivanovic> would just be good to have some decission "soon" so that we can maybe include it in 1.8.1 which i want to release "soon"
20100420 22:11:13< Ivanovic> personally i think the best way is probably adding some ingame option for selecting which lobby to use
20100420 22:11:44< mordante> I won't have time to reply tonight hope to find time on Thursday
20100420 22:11:44< Ivanovic> the question being: which one to activate by default?
20100420 22:12:03< Ivanovic> you do know, that after adding the lobby back in we need to wait a week due to new strings, right?
20100420 22:12:10< ilor> yeah
20100420 22:12:25< Ivanovic> that is: at least the option will add a new string, even if you manage to somehow use the strings from the new lobby in the old one
20100420 22:13:02< ilor> I was thingink a --lobby=(new|old) command line option, but given the number of issues we better make it a gui option
20100420 22:13:33< Ivanovic> i clearly vote for gui option since this way even windows users can easily toggle
20100420 22:14:51< Ivanovic> okay, personally i'd say that there is enough space on the multiplayer tab to add an option
20100420 22:14:55< Ivanovic> at least it looks like this
20100420 22:15:15< Crab_> or just add 'join official server using old lobby' ;0
20100420 22:15:20< mordante> we also have advanced options
20100420 22:15:32< Ivanovic> Crab_: uhm, no
20100420 22:15:38< Ivanovic> Crab_: what about other servers?
20100420 22:15:51< Ivanovic> mordante: this one is clearly a "multiplayer related" option
20100420 22:15:54< Crab_> Ivanovic: 'connect to server using old lobby'
20100420 22:17:20< mordante> Ivanovic, look at the advanced preferences and you'll find more MP stuff there ;-)
20100420 22:17:33< Ivanovic> mordante: which sucks!
20100420 22:17:49< mordante> Crab_, no that would be really ugly, better an option which we can remove later
20100420 22:17:56< Ivanovic> so: some redoing of the preferences might be required once the move to gui2 is done there, too
20100420 22:17:58< Crab_> mordante: ok
20100420 22:18:12< Ivanovic> (that is: IIRC preferences really suck in 800x480)
20100420 22:18:47< ilor> btw Ivanovic I guess the old lobby should be default
20100420 22:19:23< mordante> Ivanovic, yep
20100420 22:19:50< Ivanovic> and together with this things could really be updated and changed according to what really is required and should be there
20100420 22:20:04< Ivanovic> for example the sounds for players joining in the lobby could IMO also be on the sounds tab
20100420 22:22:58< mordante> yep when changing to gui2 we can review the preferences
20100420 22:23:58< mordante> Ivanovic, I'll send a draft reply to ilor and then to the ml
20100420 22:24:08< Ivanovic> sounds good to me
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